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IRC log for #minetest, 2020-05-31

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00:20 skyliner_369 Ehtereal adds charcoal and charcoal torches...
00:25 skyliner_369 How do I add a texture pack to the content browser?
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01:55 skyliner_369 ahh... contentDB. the contentDB was being a dork.
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06:55 oil_boi Is there a way to access a players moveresult?
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07:13 skyliner_369 How many here, well, play Minecraft? I'm asking because I'm curious what everyone's favorite modpack is.
07:13 iamweasel minewhat?
07:14 skyliner_369 the voxel game owned by microsoft and developed in Java
07:14 oil_boi What is java
07:14 oil_boi FTB Unleashed
07:17 iamweasel j/k lol i heard about minecraft, no personal exp though
07:19 iamweasel i think packs like technics + tubes + mesecon + digilines is pretty dope, and i do believe that most of that is minecraft-cloned/inspired?
07:19 iamweasel but it's very subjective
07:19 skyliner_369 I've been thinking of making a nice and cool FTB (inspired/endorsed) modpack/game for Minetest. it'd be really cool to do but I won't do it without at least a blessing from the FTB team and the mod creators.
07:19 iamweasel depends on what you like to do. i also really dig caverealms & moretrees
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07:27 Anton93 I need help
07:27 oil_boi Hello Anton93 how can we help you?
07:27 Anton93 How to add admin to minetest server?
07:27 Anton93 Config not working
07:28 Anton93 minetest.conf not working please help me
07:29 DrFrankenstone Rei's minimap was high up on mods I liked to have installed. Minetest comes with it mostly built in. Maintaing mods on Minecraft is too hard though, I always end up back at vanilla
07:30 Anton93 How to add admin to minetest server???
07:30 Emerald2 Well what did you put in the config?
07:30 Anton93 Please wait
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07:40 iamweasel he'll be back...
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07:46 skyliner_369 With Minetest, I believe mod upkeep would be mostly easy, though, I can't know that for sure without, well, making mods.
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08:33 oil_boi Krock, your colored names mod is very nice
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08:41 oil_boi Oh the CDB penalization system is gone now?
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10:12 Emerald2 Welp he never came back. Guess he figured it out.
10:12 Emerald2 It's in minetest.conf.example anyway.
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11:14 MinetestBot Miniontoby: May-29 14:45 UTC <rubenwardy> I removed minetest mods from the play store a week ago because it was broken, when I fix it I'll release an update with all the translations
11:14 Miniontoby yo
11:15 Miniontoby !tell rubenwardy that is ok
11:15 MinetestBot Miniontoby: yeah, yeah
11:16 Miniontoby !tell rubenwardy that is ok
11:16 MinetestBot Miniontoby: I'll pass that on when rubenwardy is around
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11:32 Krock !tell Miniontoby "yeah, yeah" and "yes sure, whatever" confirm that it'll be sent
11:32 MinetestBot Krock: I'll pass that on when Miniontoby is around
11:33 Krock <3 MinetestBot
11:33 MinetestBot <3 Krock
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11:53 rubenwardy Weird how it can't see I'm connected
11:53 MinetestBot rubenwardy: May-31 11:15 UTC <Miniontoby> that is ok
11:53 MinetestBot rubenwardy: May-31 11:16 UTC <Miniontoby> that is ok
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12:18 clavi hey, when did dirt blocks get changed to show less dirt?
12:18 clavi I only just noticed now
12:19 Krock dirt is full dirt still
12:24 clavi no I mean "dirt with x"
12:24 clavi like dirt with grass, it used to be 50/50 grass/dirt but now it's more grass
12:24 clavi or snow
12:27 clavi ah it was https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/commit/d16612c1cb86db48e12c211c27e4b78b920fffcd
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14:01 ANAND I was wondering the same
14:01 ANAND IMO, dirt_with_grass looks much better now
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15:57 unaimillan Hi
15:57 Krock hi
15:58 unaimillan Is there any guide How to setup my IDE for MT mod development?
16:07 Krock unaimillan: add lua_api.txt to your bookmarks
16:08 Krock check whether you can generate some autocomplete dictionary from it (that's what I did in cudatext)
16:08 Krock but else I'm not aware of any maintained plugins or so
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16:35 ANAND GreenDimond has created a very handy VSCode extension: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=24043&amp;p=365590
16:37 unaimillan navigating through the plain .txt does not seem very convenient
16:38 unaimillan anand: yep, I'm using it) Is there a way to automate plugin reloading on server?
16:39 ANAND Mods can't yet be reloaded at runtime. The server needs to be restarted for changes to take effect.
16:40 Scarecrow Automate plugin reloading? Easy: Have it managed by your choice of init system to auto-restart it, and killall minetest-server
16:40 Scarecrow :D
16:40 Scarecrow (Don't do that.)
16:46 Krock kill -9 <whatever PID minetest has>
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16:49 unaimillan 🤔
16:49 iamweasel unaimillan: i use emacs with lua mode, but any powerful text editor with correct syntax hilite would be pretty sufficient, imho
16:50 unaimillan iamweasel: do you use lua_api.txt?
16:51 Krock everybody uses lua_api.txt because you cannot integrate everything properly into an IDE
16:51 Krock take formspecs as an example
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16:53 unaimillan I mean, can lua-mode parse '.txt' to provide docs and code completion?
16:55 iamweasel mmmm i make do without completion
16:55 iamweasel emacs offers a very light ide-ness
16:55 Krock else write a script that polishes it for you
16:56 iamweasel not quite sure what you mean by documentation.... .MD file for git host?
16:58 iamweasel oh unaimillan i never even knew that file existed :) that's actually very helpful. i mostly just copy-pasta out of built-in & flagship mods, looking up lua reference as needed
16:59 unaimillan jetbrains-like "Quick documentation lookup" - pop up with docs (at least type signature) for function under cursor
16:59 iamweasel and there's a super-helpful api wiki somewhere
16:59 iamweasel mmm yeah i am not sure if something like that exists in full form
17:00 iamweasel i think it's actually rubenwardy's site?
17:01 iamweasel yeah minetest modding book by rubenwardy, pure gold
17:02 rubenwardy !book
17:02 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Minetest Modding Book - https://rubenwardy.com/minetest_modding_book/
17:02 rubenwardy there's also https://minetest.gitlab.io/minetest/
17:04 unaimillan 👀
17:04 Warr1024 Trying to browse through lua_api.txt is pretty bad, but searching it for keywords actually usually works pretty well.  It's actually (semi-)markdown, so you can use more specific searches, and/or case-sensitivity, to find specific sections and not just mentions.
17:06 Warr1024 For any shortcomings in usability it may have, lua_api.txt has the one advantage of being the single most likely form of documentation (other than RTFSing itself) to accurately reflect the actual state of the code.  Pretty much everything else out there is either outdated, or relies on someone running some update script somewhere that you probably
17:06 Warr1024 won't know if it breaks...
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17:47 Calinou anyone know why https://github.com/minetest-mods/moreblocks/issues/155 happens?
17:54 Krock recusrive dependencies
17:54 Krock or rather.. an attachment chain
17:54 Krock which happens to have a loop
17:55 Krock question is, what's the full log?
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18:40 skyliner_369 What level is diamond found at? In, I believe, 07 mapgen
18:43 Krock you probably didn't see the code reference links I sent you earlier
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21:57 freelikegnu it takes me about 10-15 browsers tabs of minetest lua documentation and examples from forums to make a small mod...
21:58 freelikegnu thats in addition to text editor tabs of other mods
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23:19 oil_boi Ohhh, the jumping in the client doesn't check if the player's velocity is 0 when they're standing on something therefore allowing them to glide up a "staircase" of nodes
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23:37 oil_boi Does anyone have an example of how to print a variable c++ side? I'm very bad at c++ :L
23:41 oil_boi Oh wait I did it, oh my god I actually did something to the engine it's a miracle
23:46 oil_boi :O I fixed a bug

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