Time  Nick        Message
00:16 * oil_boi   tries to figure out how to compile without -ffast-math
06:25 MinetestBot 02[git] 04nerzhul -> 03minetest/minetest: Optimize get_objects_inside_radius calls (#9671) 13e8ac5a3 https://git.io/JffUu (152020-04-16T06:25:48Z)
06:53 Extex       !help
06:53 MinetestBot https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md
06:54 Extex       !server addr:extex.minecity.online
06:54 MinetestBot Extex: No results
06:54 Extex       Oof
07:37 Andrey01    Hello, I`ve lost sight of my built city on a map as to my surprising I was spawned after a start quite in other spot. I know which blocks the city consists of. Are there any ways quickly to look for it?
07:43 Noclip      On default logging settings the server seems to write every change you're doing to the world into the debug.txt file. Here is an example:
07:43 Noclip      "ACTION[Server]: singleplayer places node default:meselamp at (1644,-2033,5141)"
07:43 Noclip      As you can see it also contains the coordinates of the node you changed. This way you should be able to quickly get the coordinates of your built city.
07:53 Andrey01    Noclip: thanks, I`ll try!
08:12 Noclip      In case you can't find those logs anymore (maybe they have been deleted already) I have another idea for you: Make a COPY of your world, create a new world with the singlenode mapgen, move the new world's map_meta.txt file into the folder of the copied world (overwriting the existing map_meta.txt file) and then delete the new world you've just created. Now join the copied world and grant yourself the fly and fast priviliges
08:12 Noclip      Now you can fly around and search your city. As all newly generated chunks will consist completely of air it should be easy for you to see where you've already been and where not. After you've found your city write down the coordinates, delete the copied world, join your original world again and walk to those coordinates.
08:12 Noclip      WARNING: Don't do any of those changes to your original world as it would get completely destroyed otherwise!!!
08:17 Noclip      I think I will try that myself just for fun ?.
08:25 ANAND       Neat idea
08:26 MinetestBot 02[git] 04sfan5 -> 03minetest/minetest: Swap out -ffast-math for a safe subset of optimization flags (#9682) 135cbe843 https://git.io/JffLu (152020-04-16T08:23:48Z)
08:41 Noclip      ANAND: Ohh shit the water starts filling the empty space at the edges of the ocean!
08:44 Noclip      A new ocean is beeing created! ?
09:33 ANAND       haha
09:59 Andrey01    Noclip: fortunately, I have debug.txt available
10:07 Andrey01    And how I`ve understood from your suggested idea, does map_meta.txt save only mapgen itself with no saving any changes?
10:13 Noclip      Andrey01: Yes, map_meta.txt only saves the mapgen configuration of your world. It's created directly at the beginning together with world.mt (even before you join the world the first time) and then normally should never change again.
10:15 Noclip      So by overwriting the map_meta.txt with the singlenode one you're basically overwriting the mapgen configuration of your world so that new chunks will then be generated with the new mapgen configuration (singlenode).
10:18 Andrey01    What does world.mt save also?
10:21 Noclip      The answer just stands inside the file:
10:21 * Noclip    sent a long message:  < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/TEHuIyXBxHHDUBJhJDBpUHxd >
10:22 Andrey01    Ah, config options
10:25 Noclip      In defference to map_meta.txt changing world.mt after playing in the world isn't very uncommon. If you switch for example creative mode on or off it will get written to the file. Same for changing mods later.
10:38 Andrey01    Noclip: and still a question about other file, map.sqlite, is it different from the rest map files in what it saves still map changes besides the mapgen config itself or only map changes?
10:39 Noclip      map.sqlite contains the map itself.
10:40 Noclip      Every generated and placed node of the entire map is saved in map.sqlite. This makes map.sqlite the most important but also the biggest file of your world.
10:49 Andrey01    Well, ok, thanks for detailed info
10:53 * cheapie   grumbles a bit about WE's //highlight and //restore being so insanely slow
10:54 cheapie     As in "several minutes to process only about 100k nodes" slow.
11:45 Daisae      Running 5.2.0, I tried mgv6_spflags = flat and mgflat_spflags=hills , as documented in the wiki, with those MGs to get slightly hilldy terrain. The settings had no visible effect.
11:54 sfan5       what is mg_name set as in your map_meta.txt?
12:26 Daisae      sfan5: in map_meta.txt mgflat_spflags = nolakes, nohills ; mg_name = flat
12:26 Daisae      even though Minetest ran with mgflat_spflags=hills
12:27 Daisae      I will try again with a minetest.conf which only has that setting.
12:33 Daisae      When I do that, there is no mgflat_spflags in meta.txt and no hills in the world.
13:08 sfan5       Daisae: no idea about the minetest.conf setting but mgflat_spflags=hills in map_meta.txt definitely works
13:20 Daisae      Editing map_meta.txt and setting it there does work for me also. Thanks for clearing that up.
16:33 MinetestBot 02[git] 04SmallJoker -> 03minetest/minetest: Camera: Fix shooting line offsets (#9681) 1345999b7 https://git.io/Jff2R (152020-04-16T16:32:07Z)
16:45 argyle      I'm having trouble with mobs.  There are way to many of them.  I've tried adjusting the Mob chance multiplier, but it doesn't seem to have any effect.
16:50 Krock       I bet they won't disappear automatically if they're over the configured limit
16:55 orbea       Krock: maybe this:
16:55 orbea       #    If true Mobs will be removed once a map chunk is out of view
16:55 orbea       remove_far_mobs (Remove far Mobs) bool tru
16:55 Krock       I have absolutely no clue what mobs mod they use, but yes, maybe.
16:57 freelikegnu the chance setting is inverse with mobs_redo so higher value = less chance
16:59 argyle      Thank freelikegnu.  That appears to have been my issue.
17:00 freelikegnu it's not intuitive, it was confusing to me too
17:01 freelikegnu even though its a practical setting
17:03 argyle      I couldn't even really tell by looking at the code.
17:05 freelikegnu think of it like: math.random(1, in_chance_value)
17:06 Daisae      VanessaE: Is there a simple way to see which repository each of the mods in DreamBuilder came from?
17:06 freelikegnu even though its between  math.random(lower_bound upper_bound)
17:08 argyle      I'm having another issue as well.  I can't seem to turn off damage.  The enable_damage setting only seems to effect whether the number of hearts you have is hidden or not.  I'm still dying either way.
17:09 freelikegnu you can set it out of game in the game loader screen iirc
17:09 sfan5       argyle: do you happen to use 3d_armor?
17:09 argyle      yes sfan5
17:09 sfan5       that's a bug in 3d_armor, you need to apply this patch https://github.com/stujones11/minetest-3d_armor/pull/170
17:10 argyle      okay thank.  I'll give it a try.
17:10 sfan5       or just switch to https://github.com/mt-mods/3d_armor which is apparently maintained
17:18 argyle      That did the trick!  Thank you!
17:21 MinetestBot 02[git] 04MoNTE48 -> 03minetest/minetest: Android: fix formspec input for AArch64 devices (#9685) 1357038b3 https://git.io/JffwI (152020-04-16T17:19:47Z)
17:23 MinetestBot 02[git] 04nerzhul -> 03minetest/minetest: Drop -Wabi useless flag (#9676) 13093e79e https://git.io/JffwG (152020-04-16T17:21:47Z)
18:12 misspapaya  Is there a way I can check my lava generation settings? We can't find lava anywhere and we went down to -1500 to verify
18:17 freelikegnu misspapaya: what map generator are you using?
18:18 misspapaya  freelikegnu: v7
18:21 freelikegnu hmm that mapgen has laval by default... are you able to check with fly and noclip priveledges?
18:21 misspapaya  I just realized everythign mapgen related is commented out
18:21 freelikegnu o:
18:21 misspapaya  at least in minetest.conf
18:24 misspapaya  okay yeah if I noclip and look around there's no lava
18:26 freelikegnu I wonder if lava is disabled if mg_flags = nocaves
18:30 misspapaya  okay I found some
18:30 misspapaya  it's just way far away from spawn
18:45 MinetestBot 02[git] 04nerzhul -> 03minetest/minetest: Add an option to disable unittest build, & disable them on Docker bui… 137539267 https://git.io/JffoH (152020-04-16T18:43:49Z)
20:09 kaeza       hi
20:10 sfan5       hello
20:11 kaeza       been a while since I last visited. how's things?
20:11 rubenwardy  oh hi kaeza
20:11 kaeza       hello rubenwardy
20:23 xachman     Hey guys where do I find cotton?
20:24 kaeza       last I played, it was near jungles IIRC
20:25 xachman     Thanks! Ill look there.
20:25 kaeza       np :)
20:25 xachman     Also like can you change the spawn location?
20:25 kuba_orlik  Hi there! I've just installed mobs_animal, but I've been looking around for hours and didn't find any :< I've confirmed with /mods that the mod is enabled. What am I doing wrong?
20:26 xachman     Oh man yea I installed mobs_monsters with mobs_animals and im pretty sure I saw one sheep then none ever
20:27 kaeza       xachman, search for "spawn" in minetest.conf.
20:28 kaeza       isn't that in a FAQ somewhere?
21:03 Daisae      https://wiki.minetest.net/Cotton
21:04 Daisae      xachman: you find cotton seed.
21:04 Daisae      and you do not find cotton seed by finding cotton.  That is tricky.
21:38 Daisae      Was night made brighter? It seems that way.
22:30 hisforever  Hi I'm having trouble with digtron, hear is a screen shot https://imgur.com/a/alf8M5e
22:52 xachman     Thanks @Daisae
22:53 xachman     I was wondering if you could change the spawn point in game or something
22:53 xachman     I suppose its fine I can find my way back to where I was when I died
22:55 Daisae      xachman: You can change the spawn point by sleeping in a bed. I don't know whether you need to leave the bed there. I think not.
22:55 Daisae      Whether that changes the spawn point is a setting in minetest.conf. Default is that it changes, IIRC.
22:56 xachman     ok thats what I was thinking but I have not made my bed yet so I did not know
22:56 Daisae      There are other ways to change the spawn point, but the bed makes for the best game play, i think.