Time  Nick           Message
00:46 swift110       sup
00:58 erlehmann      is it possible to remap mining, i.e. first mouse button to a key?
01:22 SwissalpS      erlehmann: use an application like AntiMicro to remap. Have not tried your specific case.
01:23 SwissalpS      Is there a method that returns a list of all user-names ever registered?
03:59 MinetestBot    02[git] 04An0n3m0us -> 03minetest/minetest_game: Disallow screwdriver rotating torches, to avoid bad torch rotations 133ea648f https://git.io/JvCmm (152020-02-11T03:58:41Z)
10:36 rtalk101       Has anyone played Kaeza's Minetest Soccer? https://github.com/kaeza/minetest-soccer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdGzQqIhzFY Really it's just a ball, not soccer in particular. I think a ball is a great simple toy that lets players make their own games and interact with the rest of the Minetest world.
14:52 ManElevation   Hey guys
14:52 ManElevation   have a few quiestions about the auth.txt in the worlds folders
14:53 ManElevation   questions*
18:21 MinetestBot    02[git] 04sfan5 -> 03minetest/minetest: Script API: Check that SAOs are still usable before attempting to use… 1391eef64 https://git.io/JvCVu (152020-02-11T18:21:12Z)
18:46 scr267         BuckarooBanzai, Your monitoring tool is pretty awesome!
18:46 BuckarooBanzai scr267: thanks, but it built primarily on prometheus and grafana ;)
18:46 BuckarooBanzai *its
18:48 scr267         Yeah I know, but still, its well integrated ... I especially like that you set it up on monitoring.minetest.land publicly :)
18:48 scr267         Or that we have the option to use it
18:51 BuckarooBanzai You can also host it yourself, i think i made all the hosting-stuff public: https://github.com/minetest-monitoring/monitoring.minetest.land
18:51 scr267         Yes I saw that
18:53 scr267         I was trying to publicize a zabbix screen using a guest account, but zabbix doesn't have the ability to make only the SCREEN public and restrict the menus...
18:53 scr267         So even a guest account could go and see potentially other stuff that you don't want public
18:54 scr267         I was trying to setup an Apache reverse proxy to restrict the URIs... but it got dicey pretty quickly
18:54 scr267         Your monitoring tool is a way better solution for my needs
18:55 BuckarooBanzai nice to see it used ;)
18:55 BuckarooBanzai i hope it helps somehow (lagwise or just show whats using most cpu)
18:57 scr267         Yeah that was one of parts that I was interested in
19:49 Time_Styler    Hello
19:50 Time_Styler    Question how can i remove privs in a lua init mod?
19:52 Time_Styler    i mean in a normal init.lua file
20:01 SwissalpS1     https://rubenwardy.com/minetest_modding_book/en/players/privileges.html
20:08 cardboard64    is 128 mb RAM enough for a 4 player server?
20:08 rubenwardy     probably not
20:08 rubenwardy     the thing that takes up space is the loaded map
20:08 rubenwardy     if the players stay in the same location it might be fine, try it
20:09 sfan5          there are some settings you can tune to get lower memory usage
20:09 Krock          cardboard64: not if an OS has to fit into that as well
20:10 Krock          and even without, it'll be really a tight budget
20:10 cardboard64    I'm thinking about using one of those ultra cheaps VPS
20:11 Krock          rubenwardy: what takes the most space is metadata. IIRC a mapblock alone is just 64 KiB
20:12 cardboard64    could a run on a 256 mb RAM raspberry pi?
20:13 sfan5          I'd say that's the bare minimum
20:13 sfan5          provided you tune things right (this includes making sure the OS doesn't eat 100M on its own)
20:15 SwissalpS      I've had 0.4 run on raspberry but it isn't much fun
20:16 SwissalpS      unless only one player and hardly any mods (RasPi 2)
20:17 cardboard64    how could I reduce the memory use? (considering only hosting a basic survival serv)
20:17 cardboard64    (so no mods)
20:18 Krock          low active block / loaded block range
20:18 Krock          auth backend that isn't "files"
20:19 sfan5          wouldn't "files" take less ram than using sqlite?
20:19 sfan5          also https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=1825
20:20 Krock          up to a certain file size it does, but since everything's kept in RAM, sqlite3 becomes more efficient after several 100 KiB
20:20 * jonadab      can't help but wonder if perf could be improved by using Postgres.
20:21 Krock          jonadab: in this case it's about RAM usage, not performance
20:21 jonadab        Sure.
20:21 jonadab        And Pg would have RAM overhead.
20:22 jonadab        The perf issue I keep running into is an OS problem.  I need to migrate my Minetest off the gaming laptop onto a real computer.
20:22 jonadab        One of these days, I will get around to doing that.
20:22 sfan5          "gaming laptop" sounds like it'd have enough power
20:23 jonadab        It has less power than even the old desktop, let alone the newer one.
20:23 jonadab        It's a cheapie.
20:24 jonadab        Its connection to gaming is mainly that it runs MS Windows.  The only MS Windows system that I have.
20:24 jonadab        Which is generally a benefit for a lot of games, but probably not for Minetest.
20:25 jonadab        What I really should do, probably, is put the Minetest server on llama (the headless system that also runs things like irssi and git), and the client on rhino (the newer desktop).
20:29 Krock          in 2009 there were gaming laptops. Those are mid-range laptops today.
20:30 Krock          just to have that mentioned once
20:37 cardboard64    did some adjustments on my local serv, it uses only ~100 mb with 3 (local) users on
20:38 cardboard64    so maybe a 128 mb vps will work
20:59 Krock          spread the users a bit to load more map area
21:04 jonadab        Get at least one of the users using a boat to explore the oceans.