Time  Nick         Message
17:00 Lone_Wolf    Hah, so this is why they weren't finding papyrus https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/2578
20:43 tbrowder     hi, i'm new here, and interested in providing a minetest server for my grandchildren and their friends
20:46 tbrowder     i have remote debian servers running buster, postgres 12, and multiple virtual host webservers on apache 2.4+
20:46 Krock        okay, the level of complexity to answer the coming question increased drastically with this sentence
20:47 tbrowder     Krock: hi
20:47 Krock        well so, set up a server on your PC to copy the configuration and mods over to the server (file transfer or git clone scripts)
20:47 Krock        hello :)
20:48 Krock        configuring servers from CLI takes way more time than setting it up locally
20:48 Krock        this still seems up to date: https://wiki.minetest.net/Setting_up_a_server
20:49 sfan5        depending on which version your grandchildren will be using, you might want to enable buster-backports and grab minetest-server 5.1.0
20:49 tbrowder     i think i can set up the server ok, but what about the clients of that linux server? what do my target users need to be using?
20:50 Krock        a client that's network compatible. nothing more
20:50 Krock        if they want fancy textures, then install a texture pack to ~/.minetest/textures/
20:50 Krock        ^ speaking of the client, not server!
20:51 Krock        if the server should provide a custom texture pack, you'd be best off using a so called "remote media server" (basically HTTP plus hash database)
20:52 sfan5        what network compatible means in practice: if you have 0.4.17 clients, install 0.4.17 on the server ; if you have 5.x clients, install 5.1 on the server
20:52 tbrowder     ok, so how would an ipad work as a client?
20:52 Krock        unlikely to find a 5.x client for that
20:52 Krock        or a minetest client in general
20:53 tbrowder     so a windows pc? or chromebook?
20:53 Krock        assuming you have compatible app: you'd go to the "Servers"/"Online" tab and connect using the server's IP and port
20:54 sfan5        windows pc works, on a chromebook you might have luck with the android app
20:55 Krock        the chromebook would probably need touch, unless mouse input is also somehow handled
20:55 tbrowder     do i have to advertise the ip:port publicly?
20:56 sfan5        no
20:57 tbrowder     are there any plans for a browser client?
20:58 sfan5        due to certain implementation details, porting Minetest to a browser is pretty much impossible
20:59 Krock        I mean.. you can play Minetest on an Oscilloscope https://i.imgur.com/Fj8gIXT.png
21:00 tbrowder     ok, thanks Krock and sfan5, very helpful!
21:00 Krock        !next
21:00 MinetestBot  Another satisfied customer. Next!
21:01 Krock        PS: smooth 60 FPS, no stutters
21:04 tbrowder     i'm going to give it a shot and will probably be back for help later. bye
21:13 whtemple1959 hello room back for some more guidance on the basic robot mod. I have 3 spawners each with only one bot. I will start bot #1 and it will get to work but, as soon as I start bot #2 bot #1 disappears. if I go back and start bot #1 again then bot #2 disappears. Can some one explain what I have done wrong?
21:13 ShadowBot    https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1 -- GlowStone code by anonymousAwesome
21:13 ShadowBot    https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2 -- Burned wood
21:13 ShadowBot    https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1 -- GlowStone code by anonymousAwesome
21:13 ShadowBot    https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1 -- GlowStone code by anonymousAwesome
21:13 ShadowBot    https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2 -- Burned wood
21:41 calcul0n     whtemple1959, you must give a different id to each of them
21:41 calcul0n     set id fields to 1/2/3... and click save (just pressing enter won't work iirc)
22:18 whtemple1959 calol0n: I thought the id was the problem and every time I hit enter nothing happened. can I put you in my shirt pocket?  ;)
22:20 l41f3n       Hello, is it possible to generate a png map for viewing my progression in the game ?
22:20 whtemple1959 calul0n: is there a hidden website with basic coding instruction/operating instructions for basic robots or does this information just come from trial and error and having a proper understanding of Lua?
22:25 calcul0n     whtemple1959, not that i know, i just got all this from bot help and by reading the code
22:26 calcul0n     another way to find helpful people is to play on VanessaE's skyblock :)
22:33 whtemple1959 calul0n: on VanessaE's server do they let you watch the bots and then study the script for which ever bot you are watching? I get lost trying to understand code but if I see it working and then look at it it may make more sense. but then I tend to be linear in my thinking and code is not always linear.
22:40 calcul0n     well you can see and copy/paste other's code but only the owner can start a bot
22:42 calcul0n     if someone's online they will be glad to show what they can do
22:47 whtemple1959 well I will need to visit. the only tutorials I have found are done by Hanno Behrens and unfortunately they are in German. He has been kind enough to message with me but the time difference is troublesome. for example in his farmbot video the robot ends by sitting on a chest. now I assume it is transferring the harvested crops but on my test field it does not transfer any crops. so even looking at the code I am at a
22:47 whtemple1959 loss to understand what is going on. hopefully by being on the server I can ask questions in real time and begin to understand Lua better. thanks for your advice.