Time  Nick        Message
02:33 cheapie     Does anyone know of a Win32 build of MT 5.x that will run on Windows XP and doesn't require SSE2? (SSE "1" is fine, -march=athlon-xp would be ideal)
02:33 cheapie     It's not a big deal if there isn't one, I'm just curious if it's even possible to run MT on this thing.
02:34 cheapie     I *did* manage to find a 0.4.12 build that would, and it actually wasn't anywhere near as bad as expected with a remote server.
03:58 swift110    hey all
03:59 swift110    whats the lowest specced device you guys are playing minetest on?
04:00 epoch       I played on a Dell Latitude D610
04:01 cheapie     swift110: I had 0.4.12 running on an Athlon XP 2200+ :P
04:01 epoch       but it was a little painful. like, closest fog distance, nothing fancy, no clouds, and still like, 10 fps.
04:02 epoch       and that was 0.4.16 probably
04:02 epoch       not sure if 5.anything would be better or worse.
04:02 cheapie     I would try newer, but I haven't found any Win32 builds newer than 0.4.12 that don't need SSE2.
04:02 cheapie     0.4.12 actually ran okayish, as long as I didn't host the server on the same machine.
04:03 epoch       I was using linux, so didn't have any extra windows overhead
04:03 cheapie     I should set this thing up to dual-boot at some point.
04:04 epoch       and it wasn't just any linux, it was, non-GUI, installed X11, set minetest as the only thing in ~/.xinitrc
04:09 swift110    epoch, when was this? A few months ago I got two of those given to me
04:10 epoch       it was... last year?
04:10 swift110    cheapie, wow
04:10 swift110    epoch, oh cool which distro
04:10 epoch       I was using debian
04:10 swift110    oh cool
04:10 * cheapie   ** SysInfo ** Client: HexChat 2.9.4 (x86) ** OS: Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition ** CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2200+ (1.00 GHz) ** RAM: 2047 MB Total (1474 MB Free) ** VGA: Radeon X1600/1650 Series Secondary ** Uptime: 3.42 Hours **
04:10 swift110    I have Bunsenlabs on the machine which is based on Debian
04:10 cheapie     Not sure why it says 1GHz, it's 1.8 :/
04:11 swift110    oh wow windows xp
04:11 * cheapie   nods
04:11 cheapie     It's supposed to be a 2003-ish themed build.
04:11 cheapie     The video card is admittedly a little out of place, but not by all that much.
04:12 swift110    oh wow
04:12 swift110    I got 2 gb ram in the dell as well
04:13 cheapie     The old video card I had in it was an ATI Rage XL... that thing was *SLOW*.
04:13 cheapie     Like maybe 1 FPS at most in The Sims 2 with low details. This one does 20-30 FPS with medium settings.
04:14 cheapie     2D performance is also massively faster.
04:27 swift110    oh wow thats awesome
04:27 swift110    I haven't played sims in years but I love that game
05:28 swift110    hmm
12:51 hisforever  Hi I hope someone can hrlp. I built a midevel warehouse in one world. I saved the warehouse.we. then I copyed the sceam folder over to another world, the warehouse winn not load in the new world. Do I need 2 pos 1&2 or can I just use pos1 to set?
12:51 hisforever  help =hrlp lol
12:52 hisforever  scheme folder
12:53 hisforever  I'll start over there are too many errors
12:58 hisforever  Ok I built a warehouse in one world. so I liked it so well that I went into world edit and saved the warehouse as a warehouse.we file. Then I copyed the scheme folder over to my new world. When I tryed to load the warehouse into the new world it says file cannot be loaded.
18:27 scr267      The forum is down... 502 nginx gateway error
18:27 scr267      the backends are probably not responding
18:38 swift110    oh ok
21:43 hecks       Angry rant time!
21:43 hecks       How is #9129 a duplicate of #6572
21:43 ShadowBot   https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/9129 -- Setting new properties on an object resets animation & other side effects
21:43 ShadowBot   https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6572 -- "Loaded mesh: ..." appears in terminal only when form is open
21:43 hecks       Look at the goddamn names
21:44 nepugia     are there non-angry rants?
21:44 hecks       How is anyone supposed to search for existing bugs with names and content this terrible, and when much more descriptive bugs are closed?
21:46 hecks       Also, git issues have no concept of "bumps", so consider #2813 and how it's close to 5 years old. Even though it's active again, you still have to search for it or have it bookmarked.
21:46 ShadowBot   https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2813 -- Attachments experience movement delays, triggered randomly
21:47 nepugia     hecks, seeing as "git issues" don't exist, i would say that is fair :P
21:47 hecks       github whatever
21:48 MinetestBot 02[git] 04An0n3m0us -> 03minetest/minetest_game: Escape translated text in 'beds' mod formspec 13d9f8c6c https://git.io/JeinG (152019-11-22T21:47:47Z)
21:50 nepugia     Dedicated issuetrackers are better at this i suppose
21:50 hecks       I fully agree that anything is better than github
21:51 nepugia     also, are you making anime characters in minetest? that does look interesting
21:51 nepugia     hecks, i wouldn't go that far either :P, but certainly
21:51 hecks       yes, and I can't even have separate hair for them because of this BUG which is old enough to walk and demand you buy it new toys
21:54 sfan5       hecks: the name is sorta misleading, but it is the same issue (as far as I can see)
21:55 sfan5       the issue here is that the model gets reloaded when properties change, causing stuff to be reset
21:55 hecks       "recreated" is the word I'd use
21:55 hecks       all these issues should probably be merged into one mega-bug but github won't let you do that will it
22:19 Andrey01    Hello, is there any way to know name of entity? Is it saved in minetest.registered_entities table?
22:19 Andrey01    The same thing concerns to nodes
23:05 hecks       Andrey01 do you mean the "foo:bar" name used for spawning?
23:06 hecks       I do believe that's used as a key in registered_entities
23:07 hecks       I see a listing for get_entity_name() in docs but it says that's deprecated
23:26 sfan5       alternative is get_luaentity().name
23:26 sfan5       but I don't see why we'd remove get_entity_name()
23:26 sfan5       so far nobody could tell me why it's deprecated
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