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Parnikkapore[m] |
!help |
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MinetestBot |
https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md |
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eflister |
hi - my daughter had saved games on android, she's been playing them a few weeks and built up inventory/location/etc. suddenly they're not there. the Minetest/worlds/ directory is empty. any idea what happened or if there is any way to recover? she's really upset. |
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sofar |
"clear data" |
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sofar |
or some sort of cleanup app |
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sofar |
a good way to prevent this is to run a personal server in your house |
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eflister |
"clear data" means the button available under settings/storage/apps/minetest? i'm pretty sure she wasn't messing under settings or hit any kind of cleanup command, we haven't installed anything like that. i wasn't watching, but i was in the room, and i haven't seen her do anything other than start games and video apps. the only unusual thing |
| 04:17 |
eflister |
today was we installed a new game. is there anything that automatically triggers "clear data"? disk is about 80% full. can't minetest specify not to allow clearing that directory? we still show the tutorial game we installed under Minetest/games/... i'd rather she can still play in the car where she doesn't always have network access... |
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sofar |
nothing I know automatically removes it |
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sofar |
there is a button to delete a world in the UI, though |
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eflister |
on the startup screen, right? |
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eflister |
she says she didn't hit that |
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sofar |
You could easily patch minetest, but building for android may be difficult |
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sofar |
I have no explanation, other than, here's how it could happen... |
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VanessaE |
don't put it past your daughter to do such things. not saying she'd lie, more like she'd do something thinking it'll help, without being aware of the negatives. |
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sofar |
MT doesn't delete things, but, some android tablets do |
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sofar |
"android is low on storage, click here to clean up space" |
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VanessaE |
kids like to tinker. |
| 04:20 |
VanessaE |
(especially if they think they're getting around a limit or parental control of some kind :) ) |
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Quiark |
I have less trust in tech (as sofar says) than kids |
| 04:20 |
sofar |
eflister: a backup system may help you as well |
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VanessaE |
sofar's suggestion to move things to/run a server to which the tablet connects is definitely the best way forward. not only will it help protect the world data, it'll take some of the CPU load away from the tablet, which may improve the game's performance. |
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eflister |
thanks guys, i think "click here to clean up space" is a possibility. if "clear data" were triggered from there, would it have cleared the MT/games/ directory? i would think both that and MT/worlds/ should be protected from that. i agree kids tinker but i know her habits relatively well and i think it's unlikely. nothing else seems to be |
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eflister |
missing. would it be an unreasonable feature request for an option that deleted saves still be kept in a "trash" directory or something? i agree backup would solve it in general, but in our case this is the only user data on this device. the server idea is interesting, but that wouldn't work in a car without internet access right? and even with |
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eflister |
internet, would need me to open some port to public access and set up dyndns or something? |
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VanessaE |
you'd just run it on one machine on your LAN, access it from another by IP. |
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VanessaE |
no need for DNS |
| 04:56 |
VanessaE |
your daughter will then simply use the "join game" screen, and she'll learn that "192.168...something" is the game server |
| 04:56 |
VanessaE |
(or 10.x.x.x if that's what you prefer) |
| 04:59 |
VanessaE |
(or whatever that screen is called in the mobile version) |
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nalkri |
It wouldn't be via 192.x though, if the LAN is at home and the tablet in the car and Internet not reliably available |
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VanessaE |
nalkri: not true. |
| 04:59 |
VanessaE |
oh wait, yeah |
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VanessaE |
misread. |
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nalkri |
A portable server would potentially solve the problem and be delightfully overkill |
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VanessaE |
I wasn't considering her playing the game on the go. |
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eflister |
i've been looking for a raspberry pi project :) |
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nalkri |
Yeah this question was specifically for in the car, and dodgy uplink |
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Hawk777 |
How about taking regular backups of that directory? |
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VanessaE |
a RPi could run a light-weight server, sure. |
| 05:00 |
VanessaE |
just don't try to run Dreambuilder ;) |
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nalkri |
I've had some success on a Pi3 as a MT server, and you could power a 3 or 4 off of the fag lighter socket |
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eflister |
yeah i guess backups is the right answer. just wish i could reconstruct what happened this time, that would preserve MT/games/ but not MT/worlds/ |
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sofar |
eflister: I think some sort of sync app or backup will be reasonably good as a solution here |
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sofar |
you could still play offline, but you'd have a backup that's not too old if run often enough |
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eflister |
agreed, will do, but still would like to understand what likely happened here |
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Quiark |
eflister: SyncThing |
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eflister |
does the stock android backup system not work for MT? from support.google.com/android/answer/2819582 - it says it should cover "Settings and data for apps not made by Google (varies by app)" |
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Quiark |
I guess that's for private app data (which is not accessible by file browser) |
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eflister |
turns out we did have it turned on (is that default?) - any way to check if it has the MT worlds? |
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sagax |
hi all! |
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sagax |
how to know time in game? |
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sagax |
time of game? |
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ANAND |
sagax: /time |
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sagax |
great! thanks |
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sagax |
minetest can show time without command? |
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ANAND |
You can use the Lua API method minetest.get_gametime (https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/53ebd803c613949a3f30fb4a905192c85dc73851/doc/lua_api.txt#L4289) |
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sagax |
thanks! |
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supahati |
Is there a Problem with the MT forum? When trying to register a new user, a ban notification is shown... tried several usernames, mail adresses an IPs. |
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rubenwardy |
Yeah, phpbb isn't fit for purpose |
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supahati |
so i try it again the nextdays. |
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sagax |
how to highlight point where mob enter to game? |
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Quiark |
I think it can enter anywhere, given some conditions (light, ...) |
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supahati |
Why can't I use tnt in a multiplayer game? Once I start the same world as a single player (without the "Host Server" checkbox), tnt works fine. I run minetest 5.1.0 out of the box, without any mods. |
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VanessaE |
I believe TNT has to be explicitly enabled in the server's config |
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supahati |
How can that be done? |
| 11:27 |
VanessaE |
edit your minetest.conf :) |
| 11:28 |
VanessaE |
I don't remember the setting name |
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supahati |
aaah... fount it on the wiki... enable_tnt. Thanks for pushing me in the right direction :) |
| 11:35 |
VanessaE |
cheers :) |
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rubenwardy |
I hate that setting |
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rubenwardy |
Well, I hate the behaviour of it |
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VanessaE |
I used to just delete the mod :P |
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supahati |
My kids want to blow each others houses away... well, why not? Better than kicking tons of real Lego bricks across the garden :) |
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tomraceror |
yepp xD |
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Quiark |
VanessaE: luajit-gc64 is required to run dreambuilder pack, rite? |
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VanessaE |
no |
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VanessaE |
but it's recommended. |
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Quiark |
well, I get out of memory quite often |
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VanessaE |
guess you have your answer :) |
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* cheapie |
looks at how close this box is to running out of memory |
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cheapie |
"MemAvailable: 63696876 kB" |
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sfan5 |
!c 63696876 / 1024 / 1024 |
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KOLLEGAH |
Anand you are so st*pid |
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VanessaE |
why? |
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KOLLEGAH |
He removed my shout prvileg on CTF for nothing |
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VanessaE |
oh, well don't bring server troubles into here., |
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KOLLEGAH |
He told me that i was swearing |
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VanessaE |
this is not the place for it. |
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KOLLEGAH |
I couldnt find the ctf IRC client |
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KOLLEGAH |
sry |
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ANAND |
Wow, how mature of you. Please don't pollute this channel with your personal issues. |
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ANAND |
Oh he's gone, nvm |
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kurtzmusch |
lol |
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[git] Wuzzy2 -> minetest/minetest: Add help texts for settings that lack one (#9007) 8ee1618 https://git.io/JeEqv (2019-10-25T20:29:02Z) |
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codic |
hey yall |
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