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01:09 atroxi Hello, this might be a dumb question but I'm wondering if running a server with mods would require the clients connecting to it also have the mods installed prior or can the server provide it when connecting?
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02:04 NathanS21 Clients download the mods from the server, they do not need the mods installed at all.
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02:13 Nezrok atroxi: Mods only need to be installed on the server that hosts the game, for the clients to use them
02:13 Nezrok Oh they left
02:13 Nezrok !tell atroxi Mods only need to be installed on the server that hosts the game, for the clients to use them
02:13 MinetestBot Nezrok: I'll pass that on when atroxi is around
02:19 Copenhagen_Bram hello
02:20 Copenhagen_Bram Nezrok, i don't think atroxi left
02:20 Copenhagen_Bram they're here right now lol
02:20 Nezrok Ohhh I saw their leave message but not their reconnect
02:20 Nezrok Herpa derp
02:20 Nezrok Thanks :p
02:21 Copenhagen_Bram yw
02:21 Copenhagen_Bram so what's up? i just noticed (one of the mods in) whynot allows me to craft walnuts, lemons, and eggs with sand
02:21 Copenhagen_Bram like wut
02:21 Nezrok That's whacky
02:21 Nezrok Like some sort of man from mud thing
02:21 Copenhagen_Bram yeah
02:21 Nezrok Sounds fun
02:22 Copenhagen_Bram but i can also craft chocolate armor
02:22 Nezrok Well...Why not? :p
02:22 Nezrok If you get hungry during battle, just take a bite
02:22 Copenhagen_Bram lol
02:22 Copenhagen_Bram i mean
02:22 Copenhagen_Bram if i have to die in battle, at least my enemy will have a snack
02:23 Copenhagen_Bram the obsidian armor is probably stronger though
02:24 Nezrok TOo bad it's not in real life :c
02:24 Nezrok I'm a snack even without chocolate armor
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02:26 Copenhagen_Bram and what if i'm a whole meal?
02:27 Nezrok People still prefer snacks ;)
02:27 Nezrok What I'm saying is I'm quick and easy and cheap and not very good for you
02:39 gorilla even after a mean, you can always snack a bit more.
02:39 gorilla meal*
02:40 Copenhagen_Bram eh, i'm not sure if i'm a meal tho
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02:48 atroxi Nezrok: yes, just tested that out. thanks!
02:48 MinetestBot atroxi: Jul-26 02:13 UTC <Nezrok> Mods only need to be installed on the server that hosts the game, for the clients to use them
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13:28 Tianshee Digilines API consists of 2 functions and list of string constants I guess.
13:28 Tianshee But how am I supposed to find it?
13:28 Tianshee By reading its code?
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13:33 Tianshee No, it should be one function, one event and constants.
13:33 Tianshee Now I just need to guess all that.
13:34 nepugia Reading code sounds like a feasible strategy to me
13:34 nepugia assuming you think the license is acceptable
13:34 Tianshee Event is easy, it's probably "digiline" or "digilines".
13:34 Tianshee But is it good idea to read license before you read license?
13:35 Tianshee What if license says that reading it is not acceptable?
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13:42 nepugia Licenses can't forbid you from reading them
13:44 Tianshee Even if it's in DONTREADME file?
13:45 nepugia ...
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14:01 Andrey01 hello, is it not known yet when 5.1.0 is released?
14:02 Tianshee I think I found something useful.
14:02 Tianshee local GET_COMMAND = "GET"
14:03 Tianshee And digilines.receptor_send( is probably that function.
14:03 Tianshee Or maybe not.
14:03 Tianshee Most likely not.
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14:07 Tianshee Now I probably know more about making new blocks for digilines than how to use it.
14:07 nepugia hmhm
14:07 DS-minetest indeed, the digilines dev needs documentation
14:07 nepugia the dev does?
14:07 DS-minetest use digilines.receptor_send to send digiline signals
14:07 nepugia not like, the code?
14:08 DS-minetest api* not dev
14:08 Tianshee That documentation is shorter than one KB.
14:08 Tianshee I want to freaking use it in game. On server. I don't want to make my fork or new blocks.
14:09 Tianshee And it looks like it's easier to create mod for it.
14:09 DS-minetest using digilines in-game is documented: http://mesecons.net/digilines.html
14:10 DS-minetest oops, wrong page
14:10 Tianshee XD
14:10 DS-minetest it's http://mesecons.net/luacontroller/ Chapter VIII: Digilines
14:11 nepugia "an LCD display" isn't LCD already Liquid crystal display?
14:11 Tianshee It's liquid crystal LCD display.
14:12 DS-minetest LCD Screen
14:12 Tianshee What noobs are doing in this ITT thread?
14:12 nepugia Tianshee: what? Liquid crystal Liquid crystal display display? xD
14:14 Tianshee Omg, I'm LMAO my ahahaha off, your ??? is only making my hard dicks HDD drive harder.
14:14 Tianshee *disk
14:14 Tianshee damn
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14:15 nepugia vryone knows HDD stands for "Hard drive divinity"
14:15 nepugia and CPU stands for "Console Patron unit"
14:16 Tianshee *Patrol
14:16 nepugia I thought not
14:17 Tianshee I have never thought.
14:17 nepugia And it shows /s
14:17 nepugia Tenshi!
14:17 DS-minetest btw. Tianshee if you need help with digilines (mod api or in-game use), I could be able to help
14:18 Tianshee Print is so useful.
14:19 Tianshee I can make a device that can flood server console with curses that no one can see.
14:19 Tianshee Very useful feature.
14:19 Tianshee I guess it was requested a lot.
14:20 Tianshee Maybe it should write it to closest player if they are close enough or "singleplayer" at least?
14:20 nepugia aslong as you don
14:21 nepugia 't flood it with ncurses
14:21 Tianshee In singleplayer I edited it to write it in chat.
14:21 Tianshee To everyone.
14:22 Tianshee But all server owners like it in their console I guess.
14:22 nepugia I don't like mods that spam useless info personally
14:22 nepugia I mean, if i want to debug i can enable stuff, but normally meh
14:22 Tianshee It's not useless info.
14:23 DS-minetest the printed stuff doesn't appear in debug.txt (log level action) as long as the server doesn't override print to write into log
14:23 Tianshee It's very useful for whoever is programming this particular lua controller right now.
14:23 nepugia Print it on their HUD
14:23 Tianshee How?
14:24 Tianshee There is a way to print in HUD, not just in server console?
14:24 nepugia https://git.gryphno.de/SyrupThinker/minetest-mod-sparktech/src/branch/master/sparkdebug/lua/multimeter.lua
14:24 DS-minetest https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/0cde6fc5525e361a2fd197df2e64895019bbb8ec/doc/lua_api.txt#L1267
14:26 DS-minetest nepugia: why the heck are there 12 indentation levels and a space?¿
14:26 DS-minetest
14:26 nepugia wasn't that three spaces? anyhow, the answer is because syrupthinker did something wrong and ended up with that
14:26 nepugia emacs yay...
14:27 nepugia :)
14:27 nepugia I'll fix that file next time i work on that
14:31 Tianshee Imagine is I can't make LCD screen work or just can't craft it yet or digilines are not installed on server and I need to know contents of some table, at least keys. Port, for example. I can only check if that table, ports or port exist and enable port if yes. Wait, I can't, if I don't know if it's port or ports.
14:32 Tianshee It's pretty realistic, like trying to make some brick work with no tools but blindfold.
14:32 Tianshee But how I'm supposed to start?
14:35 Tianshee Yes, I can build screen from separate pixels, but it will be really hard to debug anything before that, so I will build it in creative singleplayer... And then will not copy it on server because I already did everything and got bored..
14:37 Tianshee Logic gates and even FPGA are easy to play with.
14:38 Tianshee Maybe hints for less obvious things should be in mesecons and digiline HUD?
14:47 Tianshee \n don't work with lcd.
14:48 Tianshee And \r too.
14:51 Tianshee Am I supposed to use second lua controller as keyboard to input things? I guess so.
14:51 Tianshee Ok, it's useful.
14:52 Tianshee 1KB readme would be enough. Three lines in HUD would be enough.
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14:59 nepugia Pitch move mode is nice, but a bit buggy
15:03 Tianshee Looks like LCD screens need additional code and multiple channels to use properly because they just cut lines if they are too long.
15:08 Tianshee Is it okay to initialize arrays on "program" event to put those im memory?
15:09 Tianshee I think memory is a table called mem and it's for me to use, not something that I should not touch.
15:44 Tianshee I made semi-smart filter for uranium enrichment. It's currently using 2 centrifuges, but can work with one or four.
15:46 Tianshee Honestly it;s just lua pipe and liquid lcd cristal lcd display.
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15:49 Tianshee But it keeps track on concentration, throw 0%,3.5% and everything that is not uranium to utput chest, balance load between centrifuges and makes sure they never get odd numbers.
15:50 Tianshee And shows some "statistics" on lcd.
15:51 Tianshee I mean liquid lcd liquid cristal lcd cristal liquid display.
16:03 Tianshee Is it possible to make print print its argument to closest player?
16:03 Tianshee I mean, it's not always called from lua controller even...
16:03 Tianshee But maybe if there were global variable...
16:12 Tianshee Chest don't have channels for some reason.
16:13 Tianshee If there are multiple chests on single line. it's not possible to tell what chest sent event.
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16:39 Tianshee Okay, I figured digiline chest API partially by printing out parts of event.msg table on small lcd.
16:40 Tianshee Dunno what to do with digiline filter injector now. Bruteforce I guess?
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16:51 MinetestBot [git] TumeniNodes -> minetest/minetest_game: Add 'dry dirt' and 'dry dirt with dry grass' nodes for savanna biome c32b8ad https://git.io/fjyCl (2019-07-26T16:50:44Z)
16:53 MinetestBot [git] paramat -> minetest/minetest: Initialise 'seabed_height' to avoid compilation warning (#8715) ce87ef3 https://git.io/fjyC4 (2019-07-26T16:51:53Z)
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17:44 MinetestBot [git] GreenXenith -> minetest/minetest: Document 'wield_item' entity property (#8694) a8446d2 https://git.io/fjyWT (2019-07-26T17:43:54Z)
17:44 MinetestBot [git] adrido -> minetest/minetest: Make FindCURL ready for vcpkg (#8295) af72876 https://git.io/fjyWk (2019-07-26T17:43:43Z)
17:46 MinetestBot [git] pyrollo -> minetest/minetest: Fix missing item images clipping in formspecs (#8652) c3daf2a https://git.io/fjyWm (2019-07-26T17:44:29Z)
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17:58 Tianshee I probably figured how to make shop using mesecons and digilines...
17:59 Lone_Wolf I've seen mesecon shops before. Make sure people can't steal the sold item without paying
18:00 Tianshee Mostly chest and digilines filter/injector.
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