Time Nick Message 00:30 MinetestBot 02[git] 04markus@mmattes.de -> 03minetest/minetest: Fix handling of --color and --worldlist command line arguments 13e3738c2 https://git.io/fjVx0 (152019-06-21T00:29:35Z) 00:30 MinetestBot 02[git] 04markus@mmattes.de -> 03minetest/minetest: Exclude vscode editor files from source 137eb110d https://git.io/fjVxE (152019-06-21T00:29:35Z) 00:45 MinetestBot 02[git] 04pyrollo -> 03minetest/minetest: Improve buildbot script 13bbc5aa0 https://git.io/fjVxK (152019-06-21T00:44:55Z) 00:47 MinetestBot 02[git] 04pyrollo -> 03minetest/minetest: Improve buildbot script 1339c54e1 https://git.io/fjVxi (152019-06-21T00:46:00Z) 02:39 skibur Ok Minetest API minetest:register_abm "chance". I'm trying to understand this. I have a chance of 32000. What does that mean?? 02:49 benrob0329 1 in 32000 nodes will have action run on them 03:01 skibur Thanks 03:02 skibur so a chance of 1 will have 0% action? 03:27 benrob0329 No, a chance of 1 will have 100% action 03:27 benrob0329 because 1 in 1 nodes will have action run on them 03:28 skibur Thanks 04:58 BuckarooBanzai !tell cheapie can you review https://github.com/pandorabox-io/digistuff/tree/nic-post ? I added the ability to POST with the NIC :) 04:58 MinetestBot BuckarooBanzai: I'll pass that on when cheapie is around 05:38 BuckarooBanzai Mesecons-luacontroller environment customization hook: PR: https://github.com/minetest-mods/mesecons/pull/465 09:19 CopenBra[m] So, I'm experiencing tremendous lag when I log into servers with a few mods. I'm talking I send a message in the chat and I see my message show up several minutes later. The same with mining blocks, I mine some stone and they go to my an inventory several ridiculously long minutes later 09:20 CopenBra[m] I have a latency of ~800ms but why does that mean things should take MINUTES to happen in Minetest? 09:20 BuckarooBanzai CopenBra[m] what server? it depends on the individual server and its load/lag... 09:20 CopenBra[m] And if I connect to a vanilla server it's fine, I see chat messages and stuff in my inventory less than a second after talking/mining 09:21 CopenBra[m] I've experienced this lag in pandorabox and mt.nixne.st:25585 09:24 CopenBra[m] There's a vanilla minetest server at mt.nixne.st:25589, when I visit it I don't experience any lag besides my latency 09:25 CopenBra[m] Sometimes it takes a few seconds for a mined block to appear in my inventory but that's it 09:26 CopenBra[m] But I join pandora or mt.nixne.st:25585 and it's unplayable 09:30 BuckarooBanzai CopenBra[m] is it only inventory lag or client-lag (slow graphics)? 09:31 BuckarooBanzai It does sound like network issues though, do you get frequent timeouts? 09:33 CopenBra[m] Only inventory lag. My framerate isn't 60fps but it's the same in multiplayer as it is singleplayer 09:35 CopenBra[m] No. I can connect to a server 99% of the time if it exists. 09:36 CopenBra[m] I have a ~20mbps bandwidth right now so I think that rules out download speed as the cause of the lag 09:37 CopenBra[m] Upload speed is ~0.4mbps though 09:37 CopenBra[m] Maybe that's it? 09:37 BuckarooBanzai CopenBra[m] i did see something like this before, but it had to do with huge digtron crates in the inventory: any chance it is something like that? 09:38 BuckarooBanzai could be the TX speed, can you test that on another line with the same setup? (PC) 09:38 CopenBra[m] How do I do that? 09:40 BuckarooBanzai CopenBra[m] test it on another internet connection (internet cafe, library, something like that...) 09:42 CopenBra[m] Oh. Unfortunately I don't have immediate access to transportation so that'll have to wait. 10:30 yw05 CopenBra[m]: (Android) maybe switching between WiFi and mobile network would work. 10:32 Ingar something might be hammering your connection. e.g. torrents 10:32 Ingar (they're quite good at killing an assymetric line) 10:34 yw05 Ingar: no, imho my isp appears to block the connection in a very weird way 10:35 yw05 imo they allow you to connect to a server for some time and then they suddenly cut the connection 12:29 Ingar I caught my ISP several tiems killing run-running SSH connections 12:29 Ingar *times 12:30 BuckarooBanzai Ingar: how do you know that, did they actively RST the connection? AFAIK the ssh-protocol allows some delay/connection-loss 12:48 yw05 BuckarooBanzai: it's simply weird that I often timeout from all the servers when I'm at home. 16:08 CopenBra[m] That's a good idea! First I'll try logging into a server on my phone using wifi to see if I experience the same problems I do on my laptop. Then I'll try logging into a server via my mobile network 16:27 Ingar BuckarooBanzai: I saw stray RST 16:28 Ingar I also use ssh keepalive 16:32 Zeth_ So...Minetest with irrlicht 1.9 when? 16:36 rubenwardy when IRrlicht 1.9 is released 16:37 rubenwardy which is likely to be never 17:55 CopenBra[m] Tested connecting to server over my phone data, no lag at all. Same outrageous lag is experienced when connecting via my WiFi, on my phone. 19:18 MinetestBot 02[git] 04SmallJoker -> 03minetest/minetest: Fix segfault on quitting with open node formspec (#8608) 134e3c191 https://git.io/fjw31 (152019-06-21T19:00:30Z) 19:40 CopenBra[m] hello 19:47 Krock hi 20:06 CopenBra[m] I guess I just need internet that doesn't have so much latency huh 20:07 Krock indeed, your answer arrived 9 minutes late 20:44 CopenBra[m] what do you mean? 20:44 CopenBra[m] oh 20:44 CopenBra[m] that's not necessarily lazy that's also me being afk somtimes 20:46 Krock your connection is dangerously slow now. already 37 minutes latency 20:56 CopenBra[m] lmao 20:57 CopenBra[m] not everyone can afford your fancy internet with only 2 minutes of latency 20:57 nepugia Only a ping of 1000 * 2 * 60 ms :D 21:01 CopenBra[m] damn, i bet his computer is powered by mesecons 21:01 nepugia Oh god 21:01 * nepugia hides 21:06 * CopenBra[m] digs a trench around nepugia while they are afk and fills it with lava 21:06 nepugia I discovered that playing with damage off is much more fun... the only thing that damages you is something like drowning anyway, but swimming without drowning is much more fun 21:09 Daisae nepugia: potions can make you able to swim for a while underwater without drowning. and there is a submarine mod. I have not tried them yet. 21:10 nepugia potions? 21:10 Daisae https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=10222 21:10 nepugia oh, a mod 21:11 nepugia makes more sense to just turn off the game mechanic if it isnt fun imo 21:11 CopenBra[m] nepugia: what are your favorite mods? 21:12 CopenBra[m] you don't use mods? 21:12 nepugia CopenBra[m]: I don't think i use any mods that i haven't written myself, apart from minetest_game anyhow, so can't really answer that 21:12 CopenBra[m] what mods have you written? 21:14 nepugia for minetest only this one, but it isnt really 'stable': https://git.gryphno.de/SyrupThinker/minetest-mod-sparktech 21:14 nepugia (Couldn't figure out how to install that other technic mod, so wrote a bit on an own one with syrupthinker) 21:16 CopenBra[m] if you couldn't figure out how to install technic, how do you install your own mod? 21:16 CopenBra[m] (If I read you correctly) 21:16 nepugia cd $minetestinstall/mods; git clone mymod 21:18 CopenBra[m] why can't you install technic like that? 21:19 nepugia don't remember, don't think i figured out where their repo was 21:20 Krock minetest-mods/technic 21:21 CopenBra[m] https://github.com/minetest-mods/technic 21:21 CopenBra[m] How do I create a minetest mod? 21:21 nepugia is that a trick question? 21:22 Krock copypasta another mod. done 21:23 Krock here's the book: https://rubenwardy.com/minetest_modding_book/en/index.html 21:23 Krock Krock: *pastes link* 21:23 Krock rubenwardy: *TRIGGERED* 21:25 Krock CopenBra[m]: you can also go the boring & complicated way by looking up all functions on lua_api.txt and trying to put together somethnig that works, based on other mods 21:25 Krock kinda like engineering Frankenstein 21:25 nepugia CopenBra[m]: could also just take something like my mod and edit it until it no longer works 21:25 nepugia really, reading mods and editing them to see the effects is probably the best way to get started 21:29 CopenBra[m] hmm 21:30 CopenBra[m] are there any mods that make cobblestone explode when exposed to fire or lava? 21:30 nepugia Not that i know of, but the tnt mod might be editable to achieve that effect 21:33 Krock tnt does that, since it can be ignited by fire 21:36 CopenBra[m] hmm 21:36 Daisae I dislike how TNT sometimes makes lava now. 21:36 CopenBra[m] but it does it instantly 21:37 CopenBra[m] I was thinking more of a gradual effect, a cobblestone block gets hotter as it sits next to a fire or lava, as it gets hotter it starts glowing, when it gets hot enough it explodes 21:41 nepugia possible sure, making animations on block textures is hugely annoying in minetest though 21:49 * CopenBra[m] plays mineclone 2 22:00 CopenBra[m] Wuzzy: mineclone is cool 22:01 CopenBra[m] thanks 22:12 nepugia is the matrix bridge broken? 22:13 nepugia you seam to be talking to yourself on my end 22:15 CopenBra[m] no, I can hear you 22:15 CopenBra[m] just announcing to everybody that i'm playing mineclone 2 22:16 nepugia well, to whom did you say thanks? 22:35 CopenBra[m] to Wuzzy for giving us such a wonderful thing 22:37 Wuzzy ^^ 22:41 CopenBra[m] Wuzzy: Why is eating instantaneous, why can't work like it does in minecraft where you have to hold right click long enough to eat a food? 22:42 nepugia same reason that my mod incinerates pickaxes instead of letting you mine furnaces i assume 22:44 * CopenBra[m] follows a minecraft tutorial in mineclone2 22:44 CopenBra[m] https://www.invidio.us/watch?v=aA33H11Ie9A&listen=0