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00:03 paramat !tell dasherk dasherk, see channel header: "responses may take a while, be patient". it's best to just ask your question and wait, it may get answered later
00:03 MinetestBot paramat: I'll pass that on when dasherk is around
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11:52 Wolf-fury Bonjour !
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12:07 p_gimeno VanessaE: minetest_menu_overlay.png works for me in current master
12:11 p_gimeno and so does minetest_menu_header.png
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12:16 p_gimeno in fact a strace shows that these are the only ones it attempts to open
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15:46 arCABAL I installed the game with pacman on arch. It's version 5.0.1 When I try to join any server it tells me I have to register a password with the server. Entering a password and hitting register doesn't seem to do anything. No error messages, nothing loading.
15:47 rubenwardy you have to confirm your password
15:48 arCABAL how?
15:48 rubenwardy so it needs to be the same password you entered on the main menu
15:48 arCABAL ok thanks
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15:52 arCABAL i was able to enter a server by entering a password in the main menu instead and hitting connect there
15:53 rubenwardy yeah, that's where you're supposed to enter passwords
15:53 rubenwardy the dialog is for confirmation
15:54 rubenwardy the UI suckks
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16:14 vivitan is there advice anywhere on how optimize a mod?
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16:16 calcul0n iirc there are some tips in the modding book
16:17 pyrollo Depends on what's the mod problem
16:18 vivitan thanks. about mod problem, nothing specific yet
16:18 pyrollo You can read this: https://www.lua.org/gems/sample.pdf
16:18 p_gimeno there's this too: https://dev.minetest.net/Lua_Optimization_Tips
16:18 pyrollo For Lua optimization. But follow carefully rule  # 1
16:18 pyrollo and also rule # 2
16:19 vivitan fancy. appreciated
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17:36 Pie-jacker875 I still have no idea why my server isn't announcing to the server list
17:37 Pie-jacker875 does that need another port or something?
17:42 sfan5 does ipv6 work now?
17:42 Pie-jacker875 oh right that's where we left off
17:44 Pie-jacker875 well this random online ping tool can reach my ipv6 address
17:46 sfan5 I can too, but there is no minetest server responding on it
17:46 Pie-jacker875 ipv6_server is set to true on the server's config
17:47 sfan5 do you have a bind_address set in your minetest.conf?
17:48 Pie-jacker875 no
17:48 sfan5 can you verify that the server that's running minetest has the IPv6 2601:190:500:2e7d:9f0f:a552:c4a2:4366?
17:48 Pie-jacker875 yet that'
17:48 Pie-jacker875 yep that'
17:48 Pie-jacker875 fuck lol
17:48 Pie-jacker875 that's it
17:48 sfan5 does netstat -uln show an entry with :::30000 ?
17:49 Pie-jacker875 yes
17:50 sfan5 please run  tcpdump -nn "ip6 and port 30000"  to check if any packets arrive
17:50 sfan5 wait nvm
17:51 sfan5 if you've fixed the ip address on the domain we can try that again
17:52 Pie-jacker875 is there something wrong with the address on the domain?
17:52 sfan5 so the address is correct?
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17:52 Pie-jacker875 yes
17:53 sfan5 well, do the tcpdump step then and see if anything arrives
17:53 Pie-jacker875 what should the time frame on that be
17:53 sfan5 10 seconds should be enough to see anything
17:53 Pie-jacker875 I haven't seen anything
17:54 sfan5 output of ip6tables -S?
17:54 Pie-jacker875 -A IN_FedoraServer_allow -p tcp -m tcp --dport 30000 -m conntrack --ctstate NEW,UNTRACKED -j ACCEPT
17:54 Pie-jacker875 and an identical line with udp
17:55 sfan5 hm
17:55 sfan5 that doesn't matter anyway as tcpdump catches packets before iptables runs
17:55 sfan5 there is a firewall external to your machine that is dropping packets
17:55 Pie-jacker875 k well let me screenshot my router firewall page
17:56 sfan5 chances are it's impossible to configure your router to let IPv6 traffic through properly
17:56 Pie-jacker875 it's running openwrt
17:56 sfan5 oh
17:56 Pie-jacker875 dunno if you can access that https://screenshots.firefox.com/0LLWYEQXH2kzfuEP/openwrt
17:57 sfan5 I can yes
17:57 sfan5 that's the rule for ipv4, which is fine
17:57 Pie-jacker875 does luci not have a page for ipv6 rules
17:59 sfan5 what you want is a rule on the /cgi-bin/luci/admin/network/firewall/rules page
18:01 sfan5 https://0x0.st/zAEB.png here's my guess to how it should look
18:01 Pie-jacker875 k
18:01 sfan5 the "beliebig" means "any", I couldn't figure out how to disable the German UI spontanously
18:02 Pie-jacker875 no that's fine I can figure it out
18:02 Pie-jacker875 it's only letting me choose the local ipv4 as the destination address
18:03 sfan5 select the very last entry and it will turn into a text input field
18:03 Pie-jacker875 oh duh
18:03 Pie-jacker875 should I go and restart my minetest server
18:04 sfan5 is the firewall rule active yet? still can't access it
18:05 Pie-jacker875 yeah the rule should be live
18:05 Pie-jacker875 https://screenshots.firefox.com/ihzHD2lKWRg2lmNx/openwrt
18:06 sfan5 source port should be any
18:06 Pie-jacker875 k
18:06 Pie-jacker875 fixed that now, should be live
18:07 sfan5 well it still appears to be broken
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18:08 sfan5 you could debug this further by looking at ip6tables on your router
18:08 sfan5 but at this point it's much easier to just disable IPv6 and stop worrying about it
18:11 Pie-jacker875 nah after what I went through to get ipv6 working for other things on my network I'm too stubborn to do that
18:11 sfan5 then, here's the forum thread I saw about IPv6 port forwarding: https://forum.openwrt.org/t/ipv6-and-port-forwarding/27770
18:11 Pie-jacker875 thanks for your help
18:12 sfan5 ip6tables -L -v -n will tell you if the rule actually had any effect (via the "pkts" "bytes" counter on the left)
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18:13 sfan5 for how you can test this yourself: leave tcpdump running while minetestserver restarts, the serverlist will attempt to contact your server by sending an UDP packet
18:15 Pie-jacker875 I restarted the server and I see something on tcpdump now
18:15 Pie-jacker875 a lot of something
18:15 sfan5 that might just be the serverlist announce
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21:02 lllI1I hi hello can someone help me get started with a mapgen mod
21:04 sfan5 could you be more specific?
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21:11 lllI1I sfan5: sorry, what I want to do is make the stone at lower depths progressively more tough as it goes down
21:11 sfan5 ah that's a cool idea
21:11 lllI1I i.e. have multiple levels at which the stone becomes harder
21:11 sfan5 you'll want to start with the documentation on minetest.register_on_generated()
21:12 lllI1I that wouldn't be done in an actual mapgen itself or
21:16 sfan5 it could be, but replacing stone at certain depths is an easy task done after the mapgen runs
21:18 lllI1I I don't want it to look uhhh like flat though
21:20 p_gimeno couldn't it be made dependent on the current depth of the player, instead of using new nodes?
21:20 p_gimeno hm, probably not
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21:21 lllI1I wouldn't work when they are brought back to surface
21:21 lllI1I and used to build tougher structures
21:21 sfan5 hm actually
21:22 sfan5 with an ore of type "stratum" you could move this step into the mapgen
21:23 lllI1I that seems a bit wonky in my IMO
21:25 p_gimeno lllI1I: ok, I thought you just wanted to add mining difficulty
21:25 lllI1I mining difficulty + reward
21:26 lllI1I maybe put the good ores deeper down as well
21:29 sfan5 it already does that by default, somewhat
21:30 lllI1I yes but embedded in the tougher ore
21:30 sfan5 some ores appear only after certain depths and general rarity of ores decreases steeply when you go further
21:30 sfan5 oh
21:30 lllI1I tougher stone*
21:30 lllI1I so you need like iron to get past
21:30 lllI1I then mese/diamond to get past the next layer
21:31 lllI1I then some new material type to get down further
21:31 lllI1I etc
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21:45 paramat lllI1I you can use stratum ore, or even better, define a stack of underground biomes and define the stone for each
21:46 paramat moving what you want to do into the C++ mapgen API will greatly increase performance and reduce server lags
21:46 lllI1I the biome API is not stable though right?
21:46 paramat yes =)
21:46 paramat has been for a long time. does the wiki say it isn't?
21:47 lllI1I it says that yeah
21:47 lllI1I last I checked
21:47 paramat grrr
21:47 lllI1I is the fact that it's not stable the only out of date part
21:47 paramat wiki is so out of date, always check lua_api.txt too
21:48 paramat a lot of what's in the wiki is out of date or very out of date
22:07 robdrake I know the setting to let players keep inventory on death, but Please, is there such a setting for 3d armor?
22:16 lllI1I if you died then certainly it didn't help all that much anyway
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22:18 paramat lllI1I your mod will need to 'unregister' the MTGame underground biome(s) then register it's own underground biomes
22:19 lllI1I that makes sense but also sounds wonky
22:19 lllI1I like if they add a new underground biome
22:20 lllI1I then I'd have to update mine to account for it
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22:35 paramat the only alternative is to clear all registered biomes and reregister them with your changes
22:37 paramat minetest.clear_registered_biomes()
22:37 robdrake thank you so much lllI1I
22:38 lllI1I robdrake: I don't think there is a setting for that sorry
22:39 robdrake then, sincerely thanks
22:39 robdrake at least I can tell my players that answer
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