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| 00:17 |
DarVVin |
I'm pretty sure minetest is changingmy config files. I edit world.mt, save it, close it, reopen it to check that the settings took. Then I run minetest, the logs show no modsloading, then I check world.mt and it has changed, and the mods i set to true are now set to false. |
| 00:23 |
kaeza |
Are you editing the files while Minetest is running? |
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galaxie |
I'd like to know a little bit more about MT's architecture, specifically this: when a new player connects to a multiplayer server, does it start a new instance of a mod? Like if I installed the irc mod and it didn't check if it was already connected and it tried connecting when it first loads up, would it re-connect? |
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argyle777 |
no |
| 00:33 |
galaxie |
So the mod's init.lua only gets called once, when the server starts? |
| 00:33 |
argyle777 |
yeah |
| 00:33 |
galaxie |
Is there a way to check for new players? |
| 00:33 |
argyle777 |
yes |
| 00:33 |
argyle777 |
um... |
| 00:33 |
galaxie |
Asynchronously, I hope...? |
| 00:33 |
argyle777 |
minetest.register_on_leaveplayer |
| 00:34 |
argyle777 |
and minetest.register_on_joinplayer |
| 00:34 |
p_gimeno |
and minetest.register_on_newplayer (if you really meant *new* players) |
| 00:34 |
galaxie |
Is there a way to disable account creation? |
| 00:35 |
argyle777 |
no clue. isn't there a mod for that? |
| 00:35 |
GreenDimond |
return a string on minetest.register_on_prejoinplayer() |
| 00:36 |
GreenDimond |
Though I dont remember if it prevents the account from being created |
| 00:36 |
GreenDimond |
minetest.remove_player() takes care of that though |
| 00:36 |
galaxie |
Is there a way to get the password hash submitted to the server? |
| 00:37 |
GreenDimond |
Why would you want that.. |
| 00:38 |
galaxie |
If I was using MT to interface with the real server and the accounts were identical.. |
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GreenDimond |
Authentication https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L3883-L3931 |
| 00:43 |
galaxie |
I guess I might have to call minetest.register_authentication_handler... but what's the default handler? I'll need to override that. |
| 00:45 |
argyle777 |
As I read it, your mod would be the only on a running server that could ever call that function. |
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argyle77 |
sounds special. |
| 00:51 |
galaxie |
So I guess I'll grab the builtin via minetest.get_auth_handler() then later call that register function? |
| 00:53 |
argyle77 |
I dunno... This looks like the sorta thing where you're replacing something. |
| 00:54 |
galaxie |
I'm no expert in Lua, but wouldn't I just replace one function or two, but inside that, it'll call the original but get the hash as well? |
| 00:55 |
argyle77 |
I am also no expert on lua. |
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rubenwardy |
galaxie: minetest doesn't use password hashing |
| 01:16 |
rubenwardy |
We use the secure remote password protocol |
| 01:16 |
rubenwardy |
Have a look at the IRC commands mod to see how to check logins manually |
| 01:17 |
rubenwardy |
I'm confused at what you're trying to do |
| 01:17 |
rubenwardy |
If you're making a middleware layer like a reverse proxy |
| 01:18 |
rubenwardy |
Then have the reverse proxy handle the authentication |
| 01:18 |
galaxie |
It's a rather special use case, I'd rather not go in-depth. |
| 01:18 |
rubenwardy |
And the downstream minetest servers just use it |
| 01:18 |
rubenwardy |
Knot does this |
| 01:19 |
galaxie |
Hmmm, interesting. Any easy way to quickly serve a world made in singleplayer mode? |
| 01:19 |
galaxie |
I see the --world argument, but it says it implies a local game.. |
| 01:20 |
rubenwardy |
--server --world |
| 01:20 |
rubenwardy |
Gtg |
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galaxie |
So this secure remote password protocol... it still appears to do something to your password. The password returned from get_auth() is quite a lot of characters. What algorithm does it use to arrive at that? |
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p_gimeno |
<rubenwardy> We use the secure remote password protocol |
| 01:48 |
galaxie |
How come it either seems that minetestserver is not loading my mod, or print and debug doesn't work anymore? |
| 01:51 |
galaxie |
p_gimeno: Hmmm, so there are no passwords really? What gets stored in the database? |
| 01:53 |
p_gimeno |
galaxie: not sure, look up that protocol |
| 01:55 |
p_gimeno |
hmm "The transmission and authentication of the registration request is not covered in SRP" |
| 01:58 |
galaxie |
Does minetest --server --world <world> load that world's mods too? It doesn't show my minetest.log messages either. |
| 01:58 |
p_gimeno |
it should |
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Nezrok |
Hello, if I found an easy-to-reproduce bug in a widely-used but seemingly abandoned mod, who should I speak to about it? |
| 02:17 |
kaeza |
Is the mod on GitHub? You could file an issue there. |
| 02:17 |
Nezrok |
Yes, but it seems to have not been updated there in two years |
| 02:18 |
kaeza |
What mod is it? |
| 02:18 |
Nezrok |
areas |
| 02:18 |
paramat |
maybe a forum post if there is a thread, if not, new thread |
| 02:19 |
Nezrok |
I will look, thanks |
| 02:19 |
kaeza |
ShadowNinja: ↑ |
| 02:21 |
kaeza |
I don't think he's around though... |
| 02:21 |
kaeza |
!mod areas |
| 02:21 |
MinetestBot |
kaeza: Advanced area protection [areas] by ShadowNinja - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=7239 |
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paramat |
the ninja is not active or around for a while |
| 02:31 |
Nezrok |
Thing is, I don't want to post it publicly and then see people going around doing it on every server that has it installed, just for laughs :c |
| 02:33 |
paramat |
ah |
| 02:34 |
paramat |
ok, can you paste the info somewhere private, then private message me the link to the private paste? |
| 02:34 |
Nezrok |
That I can do |
| 02:38 |
paramat |
this mod should probably be moved to minetest mods due to it's extreme popularity and the absence of the author, sofar ? |
| 02:38 |
paramat |
or maybe we can just fork it |
| 02:38 |
paramat |
anyway i'll try to get the issue attended to |
| 02:42 |
Nezrok |
Messaged, thanks |
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paramat |
copied it, you can delete the paste if you want, thanks |
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| 07:38 |
Emerald2 |
So when I'm underground and I see a lava lake on the minimap, is it above me or below me? |
| 07:38 |
VanessaE |
yes :) |
| 07:39 |
Emerald2 |
I went up, I went down. No lava to be found. |
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Emerald2 |
All I want is some sulphur for my batteries. XD |
| 07:55 |
Emerald2 |
What happened to the minimap radar anyway? |
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| 08:07 |
Destructo |
i require a little help |
| 08:08 |
Destructo |
cannot create a forum account |
| 08:08 |
DrFrankenstone |
Hamlet seems to have marked all their mods as abandoned. Does anyone know what happened? Have they just moved on from Minetest? |
| 08:11 |
Emerald2 |
Destructo, what happens when you try? |
| 08:11 |
Destructo |
I cannot create a forum account as it says that a lot of spams have got reported from my IP address...... What do I do ? |
| 08:11 |
Destructo |
help emerald2 |
| 08:12 |
Emerald2 |
Hmm VanessaE? |
| 08:14 |
Destructo |
do i ask her for this? |
| 08:15 |
Emerald2 |
No, I'm not sure who's in charge of forum accounts. |
| 08:15 |
Emerald2 |
So I'm asking whichever moderator might be awake right now. |
| 08:15 |
Destructo |
ahhhhh! |
| 08:21 |
VanessaE |
don't ask me, I'm just a moderator, not an admin. |
| 08:22 |
Destructo |
so how do i get a fix ? |
| 08:22 |
Destructo |
please tell |
| 08:22 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: ^ |
| 08:22 |
VanessaE |
maybe he can |
| 08:22 |
VanessaE |
he often handles new accounts |
| 08:22 |
VanessaE |
also, |
| 08:22 |
VanessaE |
don't connect through a VPN/proxy |
| 08:23 |
VanessaE |
we've had too much crap from users hiding behind them |
| 08:23 |
Destructo |
i have connected to wifi |
| 08:24 |
Emerald2 |
Well, at least you might know who *is* in charge of it, Vanessa. ;) |
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makayabou |
Hello, I was wondering if there is a way to prevent trees to grow leaves through walls ? |
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Emerald2 |
Best way to find the lava: the powers of human stupidity (digging straight up). :D |
| 11:56 |
p_gimeno |
ouch |
| 11:58 |
Emerald2 |
I didn't find it going downwards, so I figured that would be tempting fate and I would surely find the lava. |
| 11:59 |
p_gimeno |
heh |
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galaxie |
I figured out what went wrong yesterday.. apparently minetestserver created a new world in my home dir while I was thinking it was loading from ~/.minetest/worlds.. hence it didn't load my mods. |
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p_gimeno |
you specify a full path with --world |
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p_gimeno |
why do I have auth_backend = sqlite3 at world creation, yet auth info is in auth.txt? |
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nerzhul |
nop |
| 15:25 |
nerzhul |
default is to use reliable backend => sqlite3 |
| 15:25 |
nerzhul |
for legacy worlds auth.txt remains |
| 15:25 |
nerzhul |
and you can choose auth.txt by selecting auth_backend = files |
| 15:26 |
nerzhul |
but it's not the recommended way |
| 15:26 |
p_gimeno |
it's not how it's working for me |
| 15:27 |
p_gimeno |
I create a new world, without entering it - a default world.mt is created with auth_backend = sqlite3 |
| 15:28 |
p_gimeno |
oh wait, it was created now |
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p_gimeno |
it must be that I created that world during beta, sorry |
| 15:32 |
p_gimeno |
what confused me is that even with auth_backend = sqlite3, auth.txt is used |
| 15:33 |
p_gimeno |
never mind |
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scr267 |
Is there a way for an admin to impersonate a player? |
| 16:02 |
scr267 |
Helpful to troubleshoot an issue |
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nerzhul |
currently not |
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scr267 |
Has anyone heard of SONOS? |
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galaxie |
Is there any other networking mod besides irc for MT? |
| 18:38 |
rubenwardy |
!mod prometheus |
| 18:38 |
MinetestBot |
rubenwardy: Prometheus [prometheus] - Metric uploader by rubenwardy - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=18767 |
| 18:38 |
rubenwardy |
!mod discord |
| 18:38 |
rubenwardy |
!mod matrix |
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rubenwardy |
heh, MinetestBot ratelimits |
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galaxie |
Any of them asynchronous? Like Ruby's EventMachine? |
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rubenwardy |
prometheus uses the async http API |
| 18:43 |
galaxie |
I guess, but does the mod retrieve anything really? |
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rubenwardy |
it discards the result |
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nri |
Hello |
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kaeza |
Greetings, nri. |
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nri |
Hello |
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nri |
Hello Nezrok |
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Nezrok |
Hello |
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nri |
Whats going on? |
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nri |
Nezrok: What chat client do you use? I use hexchat. |
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Nezrok |
AdiIRC |
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nri |
Nezrok: oh ok. Has Zero been on recently? Ive been needing him. |
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Nezrok |
Not for a few days |
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nri |
oh ok well maybe ill see him on Saturday. |
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nri |
Hello riff |
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nri |
Nezrok: I am testin out AdiIRC and it is definetly better. |
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Nezrok |
I spent like an hour configuring it to the way I wanted, that's what I like about it - The customizability |
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nri |
Nezrok: yes a lot of options. Do you know how to search thru nicks? |
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Nezrok |
Like in the nicklist for a channel? |
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nri |
yes nezrok |
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Nezrok |
I just scroll through til I find the name I'm looking for - It's in alphabetical order, so it's easy |
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nri |
Nezrok: oh i meant can i search thru the nicks in the chat? |
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Nezrok |
ctrl+f |
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Nezrok |
I have mine set up to highlight certain names and keywords in bright green, like mine, and it notifies me if they're said, super helpful |
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nri |
oh ok thanks nezrok |
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makayabou |
Hello! During node registration, can I add args to on_receive_fields , like on_receive_fields(pos,formname,fields,placer,node) ? I want to change node.name using data received in on_receive_fields.. |
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sfan5 |
you can't add any arguments to predefined callbacks |
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makayabou |
What I thought, thanks |
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