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Calinou |
there are few Android developers in the Minetest community |
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Calinou |
(most of the tech-savvy playerbase is playing on PC) |
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flyinggarlic |
i dont see where to download 4.17 for windows. is not listed at https://www.minetest.net/downloads/ |
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scr267 |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/releases |
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scr267 |
You'll find all the past and present releases here |
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flyinggarlic |
YES! thanks scr ... and thanks all |
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scr267 |
Does ethereal have igloos now? or is that just part of the default ice scapes? |
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MinetestBot |
[git] paramat -> minetest/minetest: Valleys mapgen code rewrite (#8101) aafbdd4 https://git.io/fjeCY (2019-03-14T00:27:16Z) |
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flyinggarlic |
mintest is a beautiful thing! what really drove me here is how minecraft on android forces the presence of a store on the user with no apparent way to turn it off. |
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flyinggarlic |
btw i managed to host a local server thanks to help earlier a few hours ago. many thanks. |
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p_gimeno |
yay! |
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flyinggarlic |
thanks! a tiny step, but a giant leap here! |
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paramat |
!tell cimbakahn https://imgur.com/a/qTix06p is mgv6 because old tree design |
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MinetestBot |
paramat: yeah, sure, whatever |
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Emerald2 |
MinetestBot is so polite. :p |
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kaeza |
<3 MinetestBot |
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MinetestBot |
<3 kaeza |
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swift110 |
hey all |
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kaeza |
Greetings, swift110. |
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swift110 |
how are you kaeza |
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kaeza |
I'm good, and you? |
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swift110 |
im good kaeza what have you done with minetest lately |
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[git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: LINT fixes since recent tooling update 02a2389 https://git.io/fjeE6 (2019-03-14T11:30:13Z) |
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[git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: Update our tooling (Clang 5 -> 7, GCC 7 -> 8) a6a04c4 https://git.io/fjeEi (2019-03-14T11:30:13Z) |
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[git] paramat -> minetest/minetest: num_emerge_threads: Warn of crashes when > 1 (#8357) ee57b63 https://git.io/fjezW (2019-03-14T12:49:33Z) |
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Niwla |
Hello |
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Niwla |
@celleron55 Can you please look at your PMs? |
| 14:29 |
Niwla |
At forum |
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p_gimeno |
Niwla: there's no cell in celeron |
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mmuller |
I notice that the latest android version on Google Play is 0.4.17.22. Are there any plans to update this to 5.0.0? |
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Emerald2 |
You can get 5.0 from the beta channel in the meantime. |
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Emerald2 |
I heard it's getting updated soon though. |
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mmuller |
Emerald2: cool, thanks |
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waldo99 |
what was added in 5.0.0? |
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mmuller |
waldo99: see https://dev.minetest.net/Changelog#0.4.16_.E2.86.92_5.0.0 |
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waldo99 |
thanks |
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waldo99 |
automatic jumping! Im updating now! |
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mmuller |
heh |
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waldo99 |
is it disabled by default? |
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sfan5 |
probably |
| 15:37 |
waldo99 |
nice it works great |
| 15:37 |
waldo99 |
good job to whoever wrote it |
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waldo99 |
minetest has needed that for so long |
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scr267 |
I've got some register_ore calls in a mod and I'm trying to reduce how often they are generating and to reduce load on the mapgen. |
| 17:55 |
scr267 |
I thought that increasing the clust_scarcity multiplier would help |
| 17:55 |
scr267 |
I'm reading the docs here: https://dev.minetest.net/minetest.register_ore but I wonder if I'm reading it upside down |
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p_gimeno |
the bigger the scarcity the smaller the chance of finding ore |
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scr267 |
p_gimeno, so I thought. I'm trying to improve performance... for whatever reason this rather simple mod is having a relatively large impact on my server. |
| 17:59 |
scr267 |
It has several register_abms and register_ores |
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p_gimeno |
which mod? |
| 17:59 |
scr267 |
sea->seaplants |
| 18:00 |
scr267 |
if I'm around the sea, I can get abms that take up to >1 second to complete |
| 18:00 |
scr267 |
if I disable only this mod out of the sea modpack, I get down to more manageable numbers, but still a bit high |
| 18:00 |
scr267 |
~200ms |
| 18:00 |
scr267 |
In any case the difference is huge |
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p_gimeno |
I'm looking here: https://bitbucket.org/minetest_gamers/minetest-mod-sea/src/58e245a94fedfdaf41b09552408b8533fe32d4ab/seaplants/init.lua?at=master |
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p_gimeno |
the ABMs seem a bit inefficient, but not terribly |
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scr267 |
Hey nice, I couldn't even find that code... I've just got the one I downloaded from the forum |
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p_gimeno |
I don't know how current it is |
| 18:10 |
p_gimeno |
it may be outdated |
| 18:10 |
scr267 |
It doesn't seem to be very current... 2016 |
| 18:10 |
p_gimeno |
I just wanted to browse online without downloading and extracting :) |
| 18:11 |
scr267 |
I'm having a bit of a weird time with it. Just for fun, I've tried to comment out all the register_abms |
| 18:11 |
scr267 |
but it didn't affect performance at all. |
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p_gimeno |
there's a weird local function generate_ore that doesn't seem to be used anywhere |
| 18:11 |
scr267 |
I was a bit concerned by the generate_ore function in it. |
| 18:11 |
scr267 |
Is that overriding the minetest.register_ore? |
| 18:12 |
p_gimeno |
I don't see any reference to it anywhere |
| 18:12 |
p_gimeno |
it seems unused |
| 18:12 |
scr267 |
Line 312 |
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scr267 |
oh sorry yes |
| 18:12 |
scr267 |
ok |
| 18:12 |
p_gimeno |
try commenting it out and see if everything keeps working the same |
| 18:12 |
scr267 |
right |
| 18:13 |
scr267 |
well, it doesn't break the server :) |
| 18:14 |
p_gimeno |
without the ABMs and that function, the only thing that can be slowing things down is the register_ore calls |
| 18:15 |
scr267 |
yeah, but there isn't a whole lot more code in that file :-P |
| 18:15 |
scr267 |
haha |
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scr267 |
I'll comment all of those out and see what the impact is |
| 18:16 |
scr267 |
so the only thing left is the node definitions |
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p_gimeno |
I don't think node definitions should cause any important slowdown |
| 18:17 |
scr267 |
ok, well this is very surprising. I'm still at around 935ms... a bit better than the 1200 I was getting with the abms and register_ores |
| 18:17 |
scr267 |
but still very high |
| 18:17 |
scr267 |
Question: Once the abms are registered the first time, are they somehow kept active through data in the db or something? |
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p_gimeno |
not that I know |
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scr267 |
ok ill comment out the nodes too :) |
| 18:18 |
scr267 |
why not |
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scr267 |
ok now im back down to around just a tad bit over 200ms |
| 18:19 |
scr267 |
LOL |
| 18:19 |
p_gimeno |
wow |
| 18:19 |
scr267 |
that's a bit messed up XD |
| 18:20 |
scr267 |
Some processing must be tied to those nodes as long as they are in existence |
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p_gimeno |
could you activate, say, half of them? |
| 18:22 |
scr267 |
yea |
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scr267 |
p_gimeno, thanks for your help btw |
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p_gimeno |
you're welcome, it's an interesting problem and I'd like to know the cause |
| 18:24 |
scr267 |
around half are active, and im getting around the same abm timing... hasn't changed. |
| 18:24 |
scr267 |
I'll try activating a few more |
| 18:25 |
scr267 |
oops i screwed this up |
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scr267 |
back in a bit. |
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MinetestBot |
cimbakahn: Mar-14 02:48 UTC <paramat> https://imgur.com/a/qTix06p is mgv6 because old tree design |
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cimbakahn |
VanessaE: I need help! Can't find my building on your server. It had me register as if i was a new person, but i am not new. |
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cimbakahn |
VanessaE: I believe i'm on the correct server. I just can't find my building. |
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VanessaE |
not sure I can help you there, I don't exactly have a list of people's buildings handy :P |
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kukucka |
hello |
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kukucka |
Can you help me? what is the procedure for the update game? |
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rubenwardy |
? |
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kukucka |
just send me link if you know |
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kukucka |
I have version 4.17.1 how to update to 5.0.0 |
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ankit662003 |
hi |
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ankit662003 |
does anyone know where is nerzhou;? |
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ankit662003 |
I need to talk to him |
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ankit662003 |
Hey nerzhoul, would you be kind enough to mail me at ankitsrivastava0193 gmail.com |
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rubenwardy |
nerzhul ^ |
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rubenwardy |
kukucka: what OS? |
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ankit662003 |
android os |
| 20:50 |
kukucka |
Windows 10 |
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ankit662003 |
does any 1 know email adddress of nerzhoul? |
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rubenwardy |
kukucka: https://www.minetest.net/downloads |
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ankit662003 |
hey ruben |
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ankit662003 |
u also a developer for android right? |
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rubenwardy |
not for minetest |
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ankit662003 |
oh |
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ankit662003 |
then? |
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ankit662003 |
I thought u did develop for it? |
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ankit662003 |
i saw ur name in github |
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kukucka |
rubenwardy: but how to continue my games_ |
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ankit662003 |
rubenwardy: please talk to me |
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kukucka |
Should I copy something from 4.17.1 directory? |
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rubenwardy |
kukucka: just the games folder |
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rubenwardy |
and worlds |
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rubenwardy |
wait not |
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rubenwardy |
just the worlds folder |
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rubenwardy |
ankit662003: I'm a developer, but I don't do minetest |
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rubenwardy |
I suggest just asking your question here |
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ankit662003 |
i am able to build minetest properly but any other ui thread is getting blocked |
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ankit662003 |
so anything i do on ui thread is not working |
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ankit662003 |
i dont know why |
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ankit662003 |
if i try to change the code |
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ankit662003 |
like try adding a toast or something or any other ui element |
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ankit662003 |
it wont show |
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ankit662003 |
on your website and everywhere it says that you are a core developer for minetest |
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ankit662003 |
https://rubenwardy.com/ |
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rubenwardy |
I don't do android |
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rubenwardy |
at least not for minetest |
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ankit662003 |
it also says there u do android |
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ankit662003 |
ok |
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ankit662003 |
but did u understand what was my query |
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ankit662003 |
? |
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ankit662003 |
do you think you can help me? |
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ankit662003 |
the code is building fine without any errors |
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kukucka |
rubenwardy: I think game folder too. I will try later. I am going shutdown computer, now. Thanks. |
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ankit662003 |
hey cimba |
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ankit662003 |
are you from germany? |
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rubenwardy |
kukucka: don't copy game folder |
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rubenwardy |
it'll cause things to break |
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galaxie |
Hi, I'm looking for a feature that I'm not sure what's the term for. An example case would be if, say, I wanted to make a statuette in MineTest, but I wanted it to fit into the area of one block, but it's made out of voxels that are smaller than that area. What am I looking for? |
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p_gimeno |
a mesh? |
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galaxie |
I guess, but how difficult would that be? Is there a guide somewhere or code/resources I can look at? |
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ankit662003 |
hi |
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ankit662003 |
some one please help me |
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p_gimeno |
galaxie: if you have never created a mesh, it's going to take quite some learning. You need a 3D modelling program, even if the build is made of cubes. Blender is free but it has a steep learning curve. |
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ankit662003 |
gimeno |
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ankit662003 |
are u android developer? |
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ankit662003 |
ruben |
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ankit662003 |
please help me |
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p_gimeno |
ankit662003: no I don't code for android |
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clavi |
ankit662003: state your issue if you want help |
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ankit662003 |
Ui thread is blocked |
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ankit662003 |
i try to run a simple toast |
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ankit662003 |
but it wont show up |
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ankit662003 |
Clavi are you android developer?? |
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clavi |
no |
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clavi |
but now that you described the problem, maybe someone who reads it can help |
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galaxie |
p_gimeno: I know how to do all that, even automate. Importing it in is what I don't know yet. |
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p_gimeno |
galaxie: oh! well, you have a lot of the road already walked then :) you need to export the mesh in a format that MT recognizes. I think wavefront .obj is OK. |
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p_gimeno |
https://notabug.org/pgimeno/Gists/src/minetest--testmesh-alpha - that's a simple mod that creates a mesh node |
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p_gimeno |
basically, you need to create a mod in order to be able to use the mesh in minetest; within the mod folder, the meshes subfolder contains the model and the textures subfolder contains the texture |
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p_gimeno |
there are naming conventions for textures, not sure for models, probably the same |
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p_gimeno |
you also need an init.lua that calls register_node with some parameters that specify the name of the texture, the name of the mesh and the type of node, like in the init.lua above |
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p_gimeno |
does anyone have a pointer for the texture naming convention? I remember having seen it at some point but I can't find it right now. I remember it was something like modname_nodename but can't remember the details. |
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p_gimeno |
here it is: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L362 (thanks rosegarden19) |
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galaxie |
p_gimeno: Ah, well, in that case, this should be relatively easy, except perhaps for the texture. Somewhere buried in my laptop is a script that turns voxels into .obj files.. but of course I can use Blender if I need to. |
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