Time  Nick         Message
00:00 Emerald2     Sneak elevator is faster to get down than a water elevator, for sure. Unless the lag kills you.
00:01 Emerald2     I'm known to get killed by landing on the edge of a block.
00:01 sodastab     yeah
00:01 sodastab     much faster to go up than a ladder
00:01 p_gimeno     I've noticed that with 64-bit minetest, you get hurt by going down a sneak elevator
00:02 p_gimeno     at least on my system, not sure why that is
00:02 p_gimeno     does it work for everyone else?
00:02 sodastab     used to work for me
00:03 sodastab     with the new physics I know you need a bunch of nodes of cushion at the bottom
00:04 Emerald2     Haven't done a sneak elevator in a while.
00:33 red-045      sneak elevator was changed a while back
00:33 red-045      there was some mild controversy over it being an unintentended glitch
00:45 * cheapie    replaces red-045's sneak elevator with a sneaky elevator
01:31 * benrob0329 replaces cheapie's sneaky elevator with a mesecons elevator
01:31 * cheapie    hooks up some digilines to benrob0329's house and turns it into a giant elevator
03:18 cimbakahn    How can i tell which version this is ----> https://imgur.com/a/qTix06p
03:22 cheapie      cimbakahn: It says 0.4.16 in your picture, so probably that one.
03:24 cimbakahn    I mean is it V4, V5, V6, OR V7?
03:27 VanessaE     looks like mgv6 to me
03:42 cimbakahn    VanessaE: Thank you!
03:44 VanessaE     ...it was just a guess
03:45 VanessaE     not enough info to be anything more than a wild guess.
06:41 jas_         !title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDWrz8Bud2U
06:41 MinetestBot  jas_: opaque water glitch - YouTube
14:28 Niwla        Hello
14:29 Niwla        I cant write in minetest-dev is that normal?
14:29 rubenwardy   yes
14:29 Niwla        Ok
14:30 rubenwardy   #minetest-dev is for technical discussion
14:30 rubenwardy   you can report bugs here
14:30 Niwla        is @celleron55 online?
14:30 rubenwardy   (to talk in #minetest-dev you need to use a client other than web chat)
14:30 rubenwardy   * celeron55
14:35 Niwla        Whats the server name?
14:37 p_gimeno     strange question :) what's the server name for what?
14:39 Niwla        oh i have it
14:39 Niwla        Hello again
15:41 Silizium     Can someone give me a hint how to get rid of water sources? I mean I want to delete a 3x3 "permanent" source, is the only way to craft 9 buckets and be very fast? And after that are the buckets unusable until I go somewhere and spam 9 times water?
15:42 p_gimeno     use a regular block to replace them, e.g. dirt or wool which are easy to dig back
15:43 Silizium     Yeah, tried that already. I'm on that skyblock server of VanessaE. Doesn#t work, I can't place a block into the source.
15:43 VanessaE     that's normal for that server.
15:44 VanessaE     p_gimeno is correct, for other servers.  on my skyblock, water is not buildable_to.
15:45 Silizium     :D Yeah. Uh, so I can't get rid of that crap? Well, buildable, I have "created" a lot of sources without breaking my head because usually they are easy to kill. But now I got a big hole in the floor where I don't want it anymore, hehe.
15:45 VanessaE     drop sand or gravel into the water from above.
15:45 Silizium     Thanks I try that. :)
15:45 VanessaE     (as in place it against a wall a couple meters above the water and let it fall in)
15:46 Silizium     perfect
15:46 Silizium     Understood, I can work with that
15:56 Silizium     Okay interesting experience but didn't work. Whatever. I live with that.
15:56 sofar        can't drop sand into it?
15:57 Silizium     Tried gravel because i had it lying around.
15:57 sofar        does it float on top of the water?
15:57 Silizium     Drop from 2m above
15:57 Silizium     No. Falling through
15:57 VanessaE     good.
15:57 VanessaE     now drop more.
15:57 sofar        how deep is the water?
15:57 VanessaE     pile it up until the water's consumed.
15:57 Silizium     Well it is falling from the platform.
15:58 Silizium     Oh okay, that's hm
15:58 Silizium     ok
15:58 sofar        maybe a screenshot would help
15:58 VanessaE     no need
15:58 sofar        if the water is 2+ deep, drop more?
15:58 VanessaE     I know what he's dealing with :)
15:58 sofar        we assumed it was just 1 deep
15:58 sfan5        the water source extends into the "void" so anything you drop will fall endlessly?
15:59 sofar        is flowing water not buildable_to either?
15:59 sofar        last resort: TNT it away
15:59 sofar        (YMMV)
15:59 Silizium     I already solved that one mostly. I used the lava stream to more or less create a bottom
15:59 VanessaE     nope, and no TNT either btw
16:00 Silizium     I guided it by creating basalt and that other stuff.
16:00 VanessaE     sfan5: in skyblock, the bottom of the world is a layer of default cloud some 20m below the island
16:00 Silizium     Was quite creative so far. I actually stopped trying to play the game, the game IS getting rid of the water.
16:01 Silizium     Yeah, I have iced lava down there and died when I climed down to it. Haha
16:01 Silizium     Lost all my stuff, that was unexpected.
16:01 p_gimeno     first thing I do on every server, grow 448 cottons
16:02 Silizium     maybe I can try to robot it away?
16:02 VanessaE     Silizium: you could also just use buckets....
16:02 Silizium     That's a nice idea. I'll try that. Yes 9 of them it would cost me all my iron.
16:02 Silizium     Water is your enemy.
16:03 p_gimeno     (to make 4 big bags and store my precious stuff in them so that if I die I don't lose anything important)
16:04 Silizium     Ah now I travel light, I have made my experiences. I just never thought I could hate water that much and I am living in Germany, where we have plenty of that stuff falling from the skies.
16:04 Silizium     I usually love it.
16:21 p_gimeno     how do dungeon loots work? do I have to enable them explicitly?
16:22 sfan5        enabled by default
16:23 p_gimeno     thanks, which leads to the first question... where can I expect to find them? like, only in desert? only in cobble? only in sandstone? all three?
16:28 sfan5        all of them
16:28 p_gimeno     mm ok, then I guess I was unlucky
17:28 nri          Hello
18:05 jas_         i think the bigger the dungeon, the better the chance -- and somtimes more than one chest too
18:25 p_gimeno     I've figured it out, silly /me was using 0.4 MTG by mistake
18:26 p_gimeno     it was too suspicious that grepping for 'loot' in MTG didn't return results
18:28 p_gimeno     I think I switched to 0.4 while bisecting something
19:19 kaeza        Greetings.
22:57 p_gimeno     is there any way to create a node in the air, with plain MTG in creative mode?
23:01 p_gimeno     guess not, I'll enable worldedit
23:38 scr267       Is it relatively simple to convert ABMs to LBMs?
23:38 scr267       I'm considering modifying the 'sea' mod to use lbms instead...
23:39 flyinggarlic hi folks, new here, minetest rocks.
23:39 rubenwardy   o/
23:40 flyinggarlic trying to host a local server for first time, just want to connect a couple of devices into a world, do version numbers of each need to match exactly, or just first digit after the zero ?
23:40 scr267       How do you mean: devices?
23:41 scr267       like clients you mean?
23:41 flyinggarlic oh, maybe host world on windows 10 desktop, access on an android device or 2
23:41 flyinggarlic yes sorry clients
23:41 flyinggarlic not a noob here, just clueless :)
23:42 scr267       5.0 is not backwards compatible with 0.4.x so you wouldn't be able to mix and match those
23:42 flyinggarlic 4.16 w 1.17 is ok then?
23:42 scr267       but 0.4.16, 0.4.17 work fairly well together from what I remember
23:42 scr267       If you need immediate android: 0.4.17
23:43 scr267       but I believe there is a 5.0 android port coming soon.
23:43 flyinggarlic ok, so how do i find my "server" on the client? will it appear it the list with all the public servers even if mine is not marked for public ?
23:44 scr267       You need to configure the minetest.conf file for 'server' purposes
23:44 scr267       https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/minetest.conf.example
23:44 scr267       If you want it to appear in the list: server_announce = true
23:44 scr267       You'll find all the config settings in that minetest.conf.example file along with a description.
23:45 flyinggarlic I played that other mineGame a lot, never paid attention to minetest, now i want to play with my child and i dont like how mineC is all about, "spend more $, you need all this other new cool stuff ..
23:45 p_gimeno     the way of connecting varies a lot depending on how your network is configured
23:46 flyinggarlic i just want to connect from my local network btw
23:46 scr267       So make sure your router/firewall is closed off nicely :)
23:46 p_gimeno     if your phone is connecting to a wifi access point in your local network, then the phone will just need the IP of the local computer
23:46 scr267       and set server_announce = false
23:47 p_gimeno     er, well, android device, phone or otherwise
23:47 scr267       p_gimeno: Sorry to have interrupted you :-D
23:47 p_gimeno     no worries scr267, that's IRC :)
23:47 scr267       haha yea :)
23:48 flyinggarlic so the local ip#? not my WAN IP ?
23:48 scr267       local IP is correct
23:48 flyinggarlic ok great thanks to all!!!
23:49 p_gimeno     again, assuming your wifi access point connects to the local lan and not e.g. to the internet directly
23:49 scr267       Also, if you are hosting on Windows 10 you may need to tell it to allow incoming udp requests on whichever port your minetest server is configured
23:49 scr267       I think windows will ask you automatically - but its been a while.
23:49 scr267       If you know how to configure your windows firewall, I would try to set it to allow only local IPs to connect.
23:51 flyinggarlic if i check public but i dont forward ports on my router, than it should show up in server list but still not be easily accesible from internet ?
23:51 scr267       That's correct, but this case there's no reason to have it listed publicly :)
23:52 p_gimeno     ^ indeed, you'd just frustrate people who see a server and want to try it :)
23:53 flyinggarlic oh I see, I didnt realize it would show up in other peoples list outside my network, thanks for that warning!
23:54 flyinggarlic so if i dont want it to show up to the general internet, i need to keep public unchecked and the only way for my devices to connect is by local ip#?
23:55 p_gimeno     the option is called "Announce server", by the way
23:55 p_gimeno     right, don't announce it
23:55 flyinggarlic ok, in the minetest screen there is an option labeled "public"
23:56 flyinggarlic would be nice to have an easier dumb folk way to connect to a local server
23:56 p_gimeno     uh, in 0.4.17?
23:57 flyinggarlic i didnt see a download for 4.17 listed so i downloaded 4.12
23:57 flyinggarlic as in here: http://doku.minetest.net/old_releases
23:58 p_gimeno     uh, that's FAR too old... the page says it all
23:58 p_gimeno     https://www.minetest.net/downloads/
23:58 flyinggarlic ah ...
23:58 p_gimeno     I don't think you're going to find a client able to connect to a 0.4.12 server
23:59 flyinggarlic but im looking for the most recent windows 10 version that the most recent android version can connect with
23:59 flyinggarlic also, is there any plans to give android version some love, would be REALLY nice to have controller support.
23:59 p_gimeno     0.4.17 should be fine, it's on the google playstore