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00:55 Anasko ChimneySwift: Thanks! Installation of #mineclone2 was tricky, as in, had to create "/home/user/.minetest/games/" directory, but, apparently works.
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02:20 argyle77 So, I've got a _bunch_ of mods running... Is there any easy way (besides disabling them 1 by 1) to tell which one is making it so that when I click to turn the page in unified inventory, it takes 25 seconds to respond?
02:22 cheapie argyle77: Anything showing up in the profiler?
02:24 argyle77 Ah a profiler.  This is something I can probably enable?
02:24 argyle77 Oh, its in the settings, isn't it.
02:24 argyle77 Alright, I will explore this.
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02:43 argyle77 Ok, I feel like I've enabled the profiler, but I can't figure out where its output is going.
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02:50 NathanS21 did you try this? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=19289
02:51 argyle77 I just began reading that page, but I haven't gotten past the first post yet.
02:51 NathanS21 :)
02:53 argyle77 Oddly, the first post does outline the config options for enabling the profiler, but appears to give the wrong (actually just the default) settings.  Additionally, while it shows the profiler output, it doesn't say where this output ends up.
02:54 NathanS21 You can enable from the settings menu as well.
02:54 NathanS21 It will save to the world directory
02:54 NathanS21 I think you need to call /profile save
02:54 NathanS21 to get the output to write to a file
02:54 NathanS21 running /help profiler should give you the correct command.
02:55 NathanS21 you might need to grant yourself a /profile priv
02:55 NathanS21 I just did /grantme all
02:55 argyle77 Aha!  Yes.  /profiler save was the bit I was missing.  It wasn't mentioned in any of the doc or forum stuff I've read so far.
02:57 argyle77 Thank you NathanS21!
02:57 NathanS21 you're welcome
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04:02 avye Hi
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07:41 cheapie CD player in Minetest: https://cheapiesystems.com/media/images/screenshot_20190224_014032.png
07:46 cheapie Yeah, the controls are all fully interactive and stuff, but... you didn't think I'd stop there, did you? :P https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf_ZC346lEM
07:47 cheapie (turn your volume way up - my phone microphone sucks so the audio is very quiet)
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08:23 Emerald2 Hey Krock. :)
08:24 Krock hey Emerald2 :D
08:24 Krock what's up?
08:26 Emerald2 Saw you fly by on King of the Hill earlier. Couldn't stick around?
08:26 Emerald2 Usually you like beating people up.
08:28 cheapie You know, sometimes I think about trying to secure that "das" mod a bit, but I think it's probably best to just *not* install that one on servers.
08:29 cheapie And warnings like "this mod will let your players erase or even brick your hard drive and it probably gives remote root too" tend to stop people from doing that most of the time.
08:29 Krock Emerald2: I tried connecting but then the router crashed
08:29 Krock retrying..
08:29 Emerald2 I think only one person is there atm.
08:30 Emerald2 Uhh yeah, cheapie... XD
08:31 cheapie But hey, at least it lets me do marginally less stupid stuff like that CD player :P
08:32 cheapie Also I did change the display color: https://cheapiesystems.com/media/images/screenshot_20190224_021842.png
08:33 Krock the landmine looks like a vinyl disk
08:33 Emerald2 I got blown up by them several times today. XD
08:33 Emerald2 I even found a kit with a sword and proceeded to take it to a gunfight.
08:34 cheapie Emerald2: https://xkcd.com/1890/
08:35 Emerald2 Bwahahahaha.
08:37 cheapie Aww, the battery.... thing I was using to power the drive is empty :P
08:38 cheapie (USB power bank supplying the 5V directly and feeding a boost converter to make the 12V)
08:39 Krock grats to 64% power efficiency
08:39 Krock it would be better to take the 3.7V from the power bank directly to boost it to 12V
08:40 cheapie Yeah, but I would need a boost converter that can take an input that low (mine can't) and I'd also have to open up the power bank.
08:40 cheapie This setup worked well enough to test the player and then make the video, which is enough.
08:41 cheapie Only works with some drives, as most draw too much power for that power bank to handle.
08:41 cheapie The Lite-On LTD-163 shown in the video draws a low enough current that it works.
08:42 cheapie If I was trying to make something I'd use a lot, then yes, that would make sense.
08:42 cheapie For something that needed to work exactly once (and did) I don't see the point.
08:43 Krock ah okay
08:44 cheapie This is that video, by the way. I think you missed it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf_ZC346lEM
08:45 cheapie (turn your volume way up, my phone's microphone sucks)
08:45 Krock > SimpleScreenRecorder
08:46 Krock oh wait
08:46 Krock that's NICE
08:47 Emerald2 Ooooooh.
08:47 cheapie I think that's the only semi-useful thing I've made using digilines attached SCSI so far.
08:47 Krock single wires.. PATA drive?
08:48 cheapie There's a USB-to-PATA adapter behind the drive.
08:48 cheapie Runs up to a USB port on my monitor's built-in USB hub.
08:48 Krock I see
08:49 cheapie The cable coming out the front is the one from those headphones.
08:51 cheapie Here's the code in the Luacontroller: https://ptpb.pw/Vorl
08:51 cheapie And the mod doing the connection from digilines to the drive: https://cheapiesystems.com/git/das/ - that's the "don't install it on a server or your players will probably erase your hard drive" one.
09:00 Krock how about mod security? you don't need to disable that entirely
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09:28 cheapie Krock: That mod isn't set up to request the insecure stuff itself, so I just disable mod security when running it.
09:28 cheapie Even if it was, I'd still have to make it a trusted mod.
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14:20 quater Client: HexChat 2.14.2 • OS: ArchLinux • CPU: AMD E2-1800 APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics (849MHz) • Memory: 3.4 GiB Total (2.0 GiB Free) • Storage: 131.1 GB / 147.5 GB (16.5 GB Free) • VGA: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Wrestler [Radeon HD 7340] @ Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 12h/14h Processor Function 3 • Uptime: 3h 32m 5s
14:22 quater hello, I'm trying to host a server but it isn't announced. How can I fix this?
14:24 Krock server_announce = true
14:24 Krock hi
14:25 quater I added this:server_announce = true
14:25 quater server_name = Qux
14:25 quater server_description = Testing by quater
14:27 quater the server is at 2a01:cb09:8036:d3d2:be68:d2ff:feab:4131
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14:37 Krock hmm.. IPv6? I wonder how well that works yet. For example, in 0.4.17 (Windows only), servers cannot be started with IPv6
14:39 quater on Linux it seems to work
14:40 quater and I'm using 0.4.17
14:40 Krock !up [2a01:cb09:8036:d3d2:be68:d2ff:feab:4131]
14:40 MinetestBot ValueError: too many values to unpack (expected 2) (file "/home/sfan5/mtbot/modules/serverup.py", line 36, in serverup)
14:41 Krock !up 2a01:cb09:8036:d3d2:be68:d2ff:feab:4131
14:41 MinetestBot ValueError: too many values to unpack (expected 2) (file "/home/sfan5/mtbot/modules/serverup.py", line 36, in serverup)
14:42 quater the output of the server https://pastebin.com/UtsWH4D9
14:45 Krock looks about right. what if you announce a domain name instead?
14:46 quater I don't think I have one
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14:55 Calinou you can get a free subdomain at https://nsupdate.info
14:55 Calinou (IPv4 and IPv6)
14:57 quater trying...
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14:58 Krock quickly changed my test domain ente.kak.si to the IPv6 address. might take a while until the new address is used
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15:10 rubenwardy [14:41:02] <cddc39Krock> !up 2a01:cb09:8036:d3d2:be68:d2ff:feab 4131
15:10 rubenwardy Ooh nvm
15:11 jas_ !mod
15:11 MinetestBot jas_: Prevent new accounts from joining [nonew] by taikedz - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=19720
15:11 jas_ The Finest
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15:27 quater when I stop the server I get:  ERROR[CurlFetch]: servers.minetest.net/announce not found (HTTP response code said error) (response code 500)
15:41 quater I added: server_address = quater.nsupdate.info but it doesn't seem to work
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15:57 rubenwardy That means that the server is not reachable
15:57 rubenwardy Make sure you've enabled ipv6 if your machine supports it
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16:07 quater I'm using ipv6 according to /whois
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16:33 Calinou doesn't that mean servers.minetest.net is returning an error 500, which is therefore an error on the master server's side?
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16:36 quater I don't understand
16:36 quater each time I halt the server with Ctrl-C I see that message
16:45 Calinou maybe you can ignore it
16:45 Calinou I keep seeing that one too, IIRC
16:48 quater the ipv6 reachable I tested with another computer
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17:08 rubenwardy You need to enable ipv6 using the setting
17:08 rubenwardy Calinou: no, the server list uses response codes wrong
17:11 quater I have this in the config: ipv6_server = true
17:16 quater is there more setting to enable ?
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17:19 Calinou rubenwardy: could that be changed so it returns 4xx instead?
17:19 Calinou (possibly with an error message in the payload)
17:21 rubenwardy That would be logical
17:26 Edgy1 hey, either nerzhul or anyone else good with postgresql:
17:26 Edgy1 https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/Y7xZHHI8Ivmc0obxrVeTsQ
17:27 Edgy1 what happened: i tried to import database from blk
17:27 Edgy1 from a backup on one of my tests
17:27 nerzhul Edgy1: just use the correct user
17:27 nerzhul (in mt configuration)
17:27 Edgy1 i was
17:27 nerzhul or set the rights on the tables for the current user
17:27 Edgy1 i tried setting table rights
17:27 nerzhul \dp+
17:27 Edgy1 from an online article
17:27 Edgy1 sec
17:27 * Edgy1 ssh's back in
17:27 nerzhul psql <mtdb>  as a postgres unix user
17:27 nerzhul and do that
17:27 nerzhul it will show the grants
17:28 Edgy1 nerzhul, no output
17:28 Edgy1 hmm
17:28 Edgy1 i thought i granted all
17:29 Edgy1 and set table writes to RW
17:29 Edgy1 ohhh
17:29 Edgy1 forgot semicolon
17:29 Edgy1 mm still nothing
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17:39 Edgy1 ohhh
17:39 Edgy1 i think i know what i did wrong
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17:41 MinetestBot [git] translations@minetest.net -> minetest/minetest: Update translations 17451f1 https://git.io/fhbRm (2019-02-24T17:40:18Z)
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17:45 MinetestBot [git] translations@minetest.net -> minetest/minetest: Run updatepo.sh d80186d https://git.io/fhbR3 (2019-02-24T17:43:32Z)
18:10 Wuzzy Hi!
18:13 Krock hi Wuzzy
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18:34 Edgy1 i figured it out FINALLY
18:34 Edgy1 thanks guys
18:37 Edgy1 my problem: wasnt using md5
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19:15 Xiong I just don't care anymore. Five years and yes, much has been done... but in trade, established bad positions have become more firmly entrenched.
19:19 Xiong This isn't even bikeshedding. The discussion rages around the right way to patch the inner tubes of a bike with two leaky tires, no seat, and one handlebar. The only person who knows how to ride it sits on the grass counting clouds while the rest ignore her and congratulate each other that they packed sunblock.
19:19 Xiong The parade rolls on. Have a great day!
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23:46 paramat more vague metaphors, we'd appreciate more clarity

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