Time  Nick           Message
06:49 epoch          can I get a second dev to look at pull request 7832? only 19 lines changed.
06:54 epoch          has had no activity in 19 days, not sure if it was forgotten.
07:14 ANAND          #7832
07:14 ShadowBot      https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/7832 -- Add command line option to load password from file by kkabrams
07:16 ANAND          epoch: I'm sure the PR hasn't been forgotten. It's just that there's a severe shortage of dev time, as most devs are quite busy these days.
07:16 epoch          alright. I'll be more patient.
07:17 epoch          is there something I can do to help?
07:17 epoch          I think I read in the wiki that getting people to test changes is a good thing.
07:19 ANAND          Ideally, one should discuss PRs in #minetest-dev - devs pay more attention to that channel, and there's a higher chance of one responding :)
07:19 epoch          yeah, I don't have +v there
07:19 epoch          or I would have
07:19 epoch          I guess it got the +m taken off
07:21 epoch          so... I might pester them about it later.
07:21 ANAND          Yea, no need to be voiced to speak in that channel
07:27 epoch          it was a few weeks ago when I last tried. >_>
08:39 rubenwardy     epoch: webchat clients are muted there
08:40 rubenwardy     You don't need voice to speak there
08:40 MinetestBot    02[git] 04CoderForTheBetter -> 03minetest/minetest: Add Lua methods 'set_rotation()' and 'get_rotation()' (#7395) 13faa358e https://git.io/fp2qv (152018-11-28T08:38:50Z)
08:40 rubenwardy     Alternatively, you may be blocked for other reasons
08:45 Alexand{er|ra} I got banned from a channel for using a Web client once.
08:45 Alexand{er|ra} I never use Web clients, but one time when I was away from home, I didn't have my client, so I used a Web client on a borrowed machine.
08:46 Alexand{er|ra} The administrator thought it was someone impersonating me, and not the real me, so they banned me.
11:19 marisag        Hi Alexand{er|ra}
14:15 MinetestBot    02[git] 04rubenwardy -> 03minetest/minetest_game: Add sfinv.get_page() 131fa8180 https://git.io/fp2Ps (152018-11-28T14:14:33Z)
15:03 AndroUser      Ugh. Managed to forget my password for my old nicks. I'll be back, making new ones..
15:05 DGKaceyMobile  Okay, whatever. Stupid setting doesn't work, apparently
17:00 Alexand{er|ra} Hey marisag!
17:36 jas_           `override_day_night_ratio(ratio or nil)` <-- i can use this to set when the sun rises?  i am using real time in-game, but it's weird when the sun isn't out IRL but it is in MT lol
17:36 jas_           sounds like math anyway
17:55 puzzlecube     I seem to recall a time_speed setting in minetest.conf. Even if you have the day night ratio correct this variable may be the solution to your problem. If you're looking to set it via lua there is no other way (at least as far as I can see) to set it without a settings method. Try setting time_speed=1 and as soon as possible sync in-game time with real time. That ought to do the trick!
17:56 jas_           well that's exactly what i did! excellent
17:56 jas_           but the thing is, it's winter, and in game the sun is out when it's still dark here
17:56 jas_           heheh
17:57 jas_           so i thought, maybe that override_day_night_ratio might be a way to simulate DST or whatever
17:59 jas_           i never used override_day_night_ratio before so i'll just have to try it sometime.
17:59 Ingar          DST is an offset issue
17:59 jas_           oh bad acronym then
17:59 jas_           i just wanna say at what time it gets light/dark
17:59 jas_           to match where i live
18:00 Ingar          if minetest assumes midnight is the middle of the night, it might become difficult
18:00 puzzlecube     I think that would probably take an override_day_night_ratio call once a day for 100% accuracy. getting that data is a bit more tricky as it would depend on where you are IRL.
18:00 jas_           ok.  so maybe minetest.override_day_night_ratio isn't the answer.  i suspect it will take math at any rate, so i dk about that
18:00 jas_           ye the math
18:00 jas_           heh, oh well :D
18:01 jas_           hm, maybe it's not so hard
18:01 Ingar          imho, rather annoying than hard
18:04 puzzlecube     I think its a matter of first implementing a way to pull some data about when sunrise and sunset and compute day and night ratio from that. Geez it sounds like a mildly difficult concept until you realize it has to have something external or lots and lots of algebra beyond just finding a ratio. definitely a pesky annoying task.
18:04 Ingar          calculate night/day ratio, then calculate local solar time, then adjust local solar time according to the day/night ration, then sit minetest time
18:05 jas_           got it
18:05 jas_           thanks!
18:05 Ingar          disclaimer: I just pulled this out of sleeve
18:05 Ingar          *my sleeve
18:06 puzzlecube     os.date() and os.time() might be a good starting point for those calculations if you plan to do it all from local data.
18:08 Ingar          puzzlecube: then get solar time from that (e.g. here, the sun is at its peak at 13h)
18:08 Genshin        Hello
18:15 puzzlecube     Yeah that sounds like its on the right track. Or perhaps get just when sunrise and sunset will happen. Oops forgot to send sooner.
18:18 jas_           hi
18:29 puzzlecube     Sunrise equation (Thank you wikipedia!) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunrise_equation [WARNING: Lots of math!] Or you could just search sunrise equation if you refuse to accept second hand math. It ought to provide information of the mathematics it would take to find it. Constants applicable for your location should easily be searchable. only thing missing is calculating day/night ratio but it'll get you to where you can. And hi!
18:38 Ruslan1        Hello guys
18:40 Krock          but Minetest is flat
18:40 Krock          so why bother doing spheric calculations
18:43 rubenwardy     https://i.rubenwardy.com/8PDwS.jpg
18:43 rubenwardy     Krock ^
18:44 Krock          > infinite
18:44 Krock          but it's a good meem
18:44 Krock          Fry memes are always good memes
19:01 MinetestBot    02[git] 04mindhog -> 03minetest/minetest: Clean up stack after script_get_backtrace (#7854) 13ddd9317 https://git.io/fpaYE (152018-11-28T19:01:01Z)
19:01 jas_           thanks again puzzlecube :)
19:02 jas_           krock i was asking about it because i have time set to irl time, and i wanted to match the sun coming up going down
19:03 MinetestBot    02[git] 04Quent42340 -> 03minetest/minetest: Move client-specific files to 'src/client' (#7902) 135f1cd55 https://git.io/fpaYQ (152018-11-28T19:01:49Z)
19:05 Krock          aha
22:31 scr267         Just wondering how one might generate tiles from the massive PNGs produce by minetestmapper?
22:32 scr267         If anyone happens to have a suggestion that is, it would be greatly appreciated.
22:32 VanessaE       look up leaftest
22:32 * VanessaE     pokes est31
22:32 VanessaE       he knows :)
22:32 scr267         VanessaE: I was just looking at your scripts actually trying to figure out how you were doing it :)
22:32 scr267         VanessaE: Thanks :)
22:33 scr267         I think I saw leaftest somewhere in your scripts
22:34 VanessaE       you did
22:34 VanessaE       sadly, I don't remember how I set it up
22:34 VanessaE       set it up and forget it :)
22:35 scr267         Hehehe, same with my stuff XD
22:36 scr267         I saw some notes about it anyway, I don't think I've seen any code about it yet... ill check google.  Thanks again!
22:37 VanessaE       copy the files from my website :)
22:38 scr267         Much appreciated... And I found est31's github repo where the leaftest script is... shall check it out
22:41 * est31        waves
22:43 scr267         It's a very nicely written bash script... I didn't realize minetestmapper accepted area coords. very cool
22:44 scr267         Much more efficient than grabbing the whole thing and trying to cut it into pieces.
22:44 est31          I think I did it mostly because that way you don't need as much RAM
22:45 tune           I've been wanting to make my own modpack/"game" for a bit, like I used to do with minecraft. minetest is a lot more barren out of the box, though, so it feels harder to get started
22:46 tune           like how there aren't even mobs to fight by default. that's something I wouldn't have to think about in a minecraft pack
22:46 tune           I played a bit of mineclone2, but putting mods on top of it didn't go well (this was a few months ago)
22:46 tune           are there lists of popular mods that fit into all sorts of packs?
22:46 VanessaE       scr267: I just updated my online scripts section, I suggest re-copying.  some stuff will have changed
22:48 scr267         VanessaE: Thanks for the heads up... Luckily I haven't copied anything yet... just reading... Trying to get an idea of how it fits together... I've already got some pieces of my own like a backup scripts...
22:48 VanessaE       ok.
22:49 scr267         Trying to setup logrotate and for some reason its' not working... bah tidbits :)
22:49 scr267         Unfortunately I have to go... Thanks again... Thank you as well est31.
22:49 VanessaE       well, at least the script that does the nightly update of the maps has changed anyway. flags/arguments
23:33 Alexand{er|ra} VanessaE: Thank you, by the way. Pretty much every time I see you, you're helping someone get something working.
23:34 VanessaE       I try.