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00:47 MarisaG Hi Cornelia
00:47 Cornelia Hallo
00:48 MarisaG Hows your sunday going?
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01:32 Cornelia MarisaG_afk: laaaaate... It's going okay. Job interview tomorrow.
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03:01 MarisaG Good luck on that Cornelia!
03:01 Cornelia Danke :3
03:02 MarisaG 🍻
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03:15 MarisaG hi Taoki[mobile]
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03:20 MarisaG hi Lia
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03:20 Lia It's me.
03:20 MarisaG LOL o i see now
03:20 Lia My wifi must have dropped
03:21 MarisaG oh ok
03:21 MarisaG there you go
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03:25 Topic for #minetest is now The official Minetest channel | Latest version: 0.4.17.1 (2018-06-10) | General, player and modder discussion is on-topic. If in doubt, post here | Responses may take a while, be patient | Rules: https://wiki.minetest.net/IRC#Rules | Development: #minetest-dev | Server list: https://minetest.net/servers | IRC logs: http://irc.minetest.net/minetest/
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04:07 MarisaG Hello, I am trying to start a club/co-op for people to share large files via torrent. I pay $10/month for each server, and i will offer to host your torrents for $5/month across 4 other servers at 10gb altogether. So each subscriber helps out the other subscribers by paying part of the hosting fee, so I am not making anything off this offer. I just want to get the benefit of other subscribers for my own hosting.
04:07 MarisaG If you are interested or want more information you can go to https://TorrentClub.tech and meet other people who are using the club (when there are any LOL). Let's get this going 👍
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04:24 MarisaG wb Ruslan1 :)
04:26 Ruslan1 Hi MarisaG
04:27 Ruslan1 MarisaG: I don’t want my server to be delete
04:28 MarisaG no worries
04:28 MarisaG You will pay next month?
04:29 Ruslan1 And my server will be back
04:29 MarisaG I wont take your server down
04:29 MarisaG as long as you want it
04:30 Ruslan1 So I pay for free and my server will be back
04:31 MarisaG Your free trial ends next month
04:32 Ruslan1 Is my server will be saved
04:32 MarisaG yes
04:32 Ruslan1 Yay
04:32 MarisaG ;)
04:33 MarisaG 🍻
04:35 Ruslan1 windows ssh Linux
04:36 ChimneySwift PuTTY
04:36 MarisaG yes that is what I reccommended too
04:36 Ruslan1 MarisaG: What is ssh like
04:36 MarisaG ssh is like a command-line PuTTY
04:37 MarisaG Its what you use to do a linux->linux connection
04:37 MarisaG You do "ssh foo@bar.com"
04:37 MarisaG or you do "ssh -X foo@bar.com" to forward X-Windows connections
04:38 Ruslan1 Windows with Linux
04:40 Ruslan1 MarisaG: my server will never be delete
04:41 MarisaG Not as long as you pay for it
04:41 MarisaG I can give you a little slack if you need help making payments
04:43 Ruslan1 Ok
04:44 Ruslan1 I need help to make money for saving my server
04:46 Ruslan1 MarisaG: go to my account
04:47 Ruslan1 MarisaG: hello
04:47 MarisaG I replied to your message on minecity.online
04:51 Ruslan1 MarisaG: can you help me making payments please
04:51 MarisaG Yes, we can work something out
04:51 MarisaG Maybe write up a testimonial for me or something
04:51 MarisaG Or refer people to me for minetest hosting
04:52 Ruslan1 Ok how long my server will be down
04:52 MarisaG It should not be down at all
04:53 MarisaG isnt it up now?
04:53 Ruslan1 My server still up
04:54 MarisaG Yes just checked, it is still running now
04:55 Ruslan1 !up Ruslan1.minecity.online:30000
04:55 MinetestBot Ruslan1.minecity.online:30000 is up (143ms)
04:57 Ruslan1 Yeah it still running
04:58 Ruslan1 Also I have 205 mods
04:58 MarisaG wow thats a lot
04:59 Ruslan1 Yes it is
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05:07 redneonglow hey
05:07 redneonglow what's going on with the forum
05:07 Ruslan1 Hi
05:07 redneonglow a number of things are being locked
05:08 redneonglow with no explanation or anything
05:09 redneonglow i got a notice that there was an update on a thread i made, there was none, and the thread was locked
05:09 redneonglow among other threads
05:09 MarisaG hmm let me look
05:10 MarisaG mine are still there
05:10 redneonglow this was the thread
05:10 redneonglow https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=14560
05:10 rubenwardy redneonglow: that was me, it was a bump 2 years later which didn't really add anything to it
05:10 redneonglow then i found this was locked too
05:10 redneonglow https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=15992
05:11 redneonglow the thread about the discord
05:11 rubenwardy it's a duplicate
05:13 redneonglow the discord one is a duplicate?
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05:32 MarisaG Hi Taoki
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13:17 crazyR Hi VanessaE, I've just updated Homedecor_modpack and the recent commits has caused it to misbehave.
13:17 crazyR currency mod is now a non-optional dependency. but i would rather not have this mod as i use a custom economies mod etc.#
13:17 crazyR building_blocks now depends on gloopblocks but gloopblocks also depends on building_blocks.. which i think causes it to fail loading them both.
13:17 crazyR mod "building_blocks" has unsatisfied dependencies:  "gloopblocks"
13:17 crazyR mod "fake_fire" has unsatisfied dependencies:  "homedecor"
13:17 crazyR mod "homedecor" has unsatisfied dependencies:  "building_blocks" "currency"
13:17 crazyR mod "plasmascreen" has unsatisfied dependencies:  "homedecor"
13:17 crazyR mod "asphalt" has unsatisfied dependencies:  "building_blocks"
13:17 crazyR mod "gloopblocks" has unsatisfied dependencies:  "building_blocks"
13:17 VanessaE stop
13:18 VanessaE dude, pastebin,
13:18 VanessaE chances are, you just need basic_materials or currency
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13:18 VanessaE oh there it is, in fact.
13:18 VanessaE <crazyR> mod "homedecor" has unsatisfied dependencies:  "building_blocks" "currency"
13:19 VanessaE I got rid of the "coin for the soda machine"
13:19 VanessaE using 25¢ Minegeld coin instead.
13:19 crazyR let me double check somthing. but im sure i have building_blocks enabled...
13:21 crazyR yep building blocks is enabled.. they only one that i dont have is currency..... and i dont want it... is currency mod a required depency?
13:21 VanessaE you can make it optdepend
13:22 VanessaE it's only needed for the soda machine's coin.
13:22 crazyR ok thanks. il fork it and change it to optdepend.
13:22 VanessaE no
13:22 VanessaE I"ll do it now.
13:23 crazyR No worries. thank you :)
13:23 VanessaE done.
13:25 VanessaE out of curiosity, why don't you want currency? :)
13:25 crazyR I have a custom econemies mod.. dont really need anything else :/
13:25 VanessaE ohh
13:26 crazyR hmm. so thats one issue down... still getting the mod "building_blocks" has unsatisfied dependencies:  "gloopblocks" and vise versa errors though
13:26 crazyR do they not block each other it both depend on each?
13:27 VanessaE maybe you need to update glooblocks (it's not a hard dep)
13:28 crazyR Updating gloopblocks Mod From https://github.com/minetest-mods/gloopblocks * branch            master     -> FETCH_HEAD Already up to date.
13:28 VanessaE wrong repo.
13:29 crazyR oh
13:29 crazyR which one do i need lol?
13:29 VanessaE https://gitlab.com/VanessaE/gloopblocks
13:29 VanessaE all of my mods are there.
13:30 crazyR ok thanks... il update them all soon. il get this one fixed first though :D
13:30 VanessaE I recommend updating them all now.
13:32 VanessaE there are multiple changes here and there to some of my mods that I'm not sure what could go wrong if you're pulling from the wrong repo
13:32 VanessaE plus I changed over to gitlab in ...June was it?
13:32 VanessaE (when the M$ buyout of github was announced)
13:33 crazyR ahh right.... do gitlab offer private repo's?
13:33 VanessaE idk
13:33 VanessaE I think sop
13:33 VanessaE -p
13:34 VanessaE I never use such things.  public or gtfo :)
13:35 crazyR lol no worries.. :)
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13:54 crazyR VanessaE if your not to busy could you chuck this into a test mod and let me know if it crashes the engine: minetest.log(minetest.get_server_status())
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13:55 crazyR for some reason its crashing minetest without reason but i want to rule out anything on my side
13:56 VanessaE 2018-11-12 08:56:50: ERROR[Main]: Irrlicht: Invalid size of image for OpenGL Texture.
13:56 VanessaE Segmentation fault
13:57 crazyR so its not just mee :D
13:57 VanessaE 0.4.17.1 here, btw.
13:57 crazyR ahh... im latest dev
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13:58 crazyR so its an issue with Irrlicht... or minetest not being uypdated to reflect changes in Irrlicht maybe?
13:58 crazyR *updated
13:58 VanessaE idk :P
13:58 crazyR lol can you think of any other way for me to obtain the lag value?
13:59 VanessaE print(dump(minetest.get_server_status()))  maybe? :)
13:59 VanessaE I mean, idk if it's the .log() or the status() call that's failing.
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14:02 crazyR dont think its the .log   as im able to use it for all other things.... Il compile a debug version of minetest when i get a moment and compile a report so i can file a bug report :/
14:03 crazyR thanks anyhow. atleast i now know im not going crazy :D
14:03 VanessaE hm
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14:03 VanessaE no, you're still crazy :)
14:04 crazyR haha :D
14:04 VanessaE I mean, shit, it's right there in your nick.
14:04 crazyR i was waiting for that :D
14:04 VanessaE glad I didn't disappoint :)
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14:16 rubenwardy VanessaE: I have more private repos than public ones
14:16 rubenwardy 'cuz uni
14:16 * VanessaE shrugs :)
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14:46 MinetestBot [git] rubenwardy -> minetest/minetest: Fix get_server_status() segfault due to uninitialized m_env 81d5533 https://git.io/fpqhJ (2018-11-12T14:34:29Z)
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15:44 Ruslan1 Hi MarisaG
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16:42 stormchaser3000 I have a request
16:42 rubenwardy oh noes
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16:42 rubenwardy request denied
16:42 stormchaser3000 I don't know if it is my place to ask this
16:43 stormchaser3000 but can this topic be locked? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&amp;t=18481&amp;start=100
16:43 stormchaser3000 I feel that if it keeps getting bumped that it will just cause mor drama
16:44 rubenwardy sounds fine to me, I'll ask elsewhere
16:44 stormchaser3000 ok
16:44 rubenwardy -elsewhere
16:45 stormchaser3000 I hosted that server for months and the drama that happened on that server drove my stress level through the roof
16:45 rubenwardy stormchaser3000: done
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16:46 stormchaser3000 thank you
16:51 Fixer voxel games are full of drama, and if you have server discord channel it quickly degenerates into chaos
16:56 Fixer so use IRC instead, it will scare off noobs
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17:29 Ingar I never have drama on my servers
17:30 Ingar I have one rule: annoy the admin, get permaban
17:30 Ingar werkts pretty well
17:32 Ingar *works
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18:35 MinetestBot [git] HybridDog -> minetest/minetest: Enable subtle fall bobbing (#7856) 98ee089 https://git.io/fpmC9 (2018-11-12T18:34:47Z)
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19:36 paramat !tell p_gimeno yes 'large cave' refers to the mid-size often flooded caves, 'large' because they are the classic 'large caves' from mgv6, and were the largest before caverns were added. the massive caves are called 'caverns'
19:36 MinetestBot paramat: I'll pass that on when p_gimeno is around
19:40 Jordach paramat, found an actual bug with night time sky colour blending by accident
19:40 Jordach it's been there for nearly 4-5 years at this point, unnoticed
19:41 paramat !tell Pilcrow182 only client-provided CSM has been added, not server-sent CSM yet. the dev wiki is unofficial, often out of date, missing info, always look at official docs in the repo, see 'client_lua_api.txt'
19:41 MinetestBot paramat: yeah, sure, whatever
19:41 paramat interesting
19:41 Jordach there's a picture of the fixed classic sky that used to be there, before directional fog
19:41 Jordach ah, https://i.imgur.com/0rekf4I.png
19:43 Jordach paramat, that was your commit that added the offending time_brightness < 0.07
19:44 Jordach 0.08 would've added the midnight blue :)
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19:47 Jordach here;s an image with the broken sky https://i.imgur.com/EBom4gf.png
19:48 Jordach (grab a colour picking tool and a magnifier, you'll want em)
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19:52 paramat replied in thread, please open a new issue or PR for the bug
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19:58 paramat ahh so 0,07 is too small? quite possibly
19:58 paramat *0.07
19:59 Jordach paramat, it needs to be fixed for future possibilities of custom sky colours provided from Lua
20:00 paramat yes ok
20:00 Jordach and i can always detune the classic colours to resemble the current state
20:01 Jordach paramat, quick footage of the changes so far; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZrmmjRvyXs
20:02 Jordach i've taken hundreds of pictures of the sky in the last year, so getting it right by default would be a monster difference
20:03 Jordach (i mean, i can always enforce the classic skybox mode to ignore the bug fix)
20:04 paramat to be clear, please open a new issue/PR for the bug you've found, it needs to be separate from a feature
20:04 Jordach well, the PR name implies improved appearance
20:04 Jordach so it would fall under bugfix
20:05 paramat no
20:06 paramat i will attend to the bug quickly then you can rebase on it
20:07 Jordach changing the if statement value wouldn't kill it paramat
20:07 Jordach it wouldn't care for a rebase since it's a different digit
20:11 paramat it would require a rebase? ok that's good. but still, a long running bug needs to be separate to be merged quickly, it can't be dependent on a WIP feature that may possibly not be merged (even though it probably will)
20:11 paramat what's the bug anyway? i'm interested :)
20:11 rubenwardy this is the wrong channel
20:12 Jordach paramat, https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/src/sky.cpp#L623
20:12 Jordach off by -0.01
20:13 Jordach and, https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/7858
20:13 paramat wrong value? ok quite possibly, thanks
20:14 Jordach 0.08 fixes it btw
20:14 rubenwardy you mean since
20:14 rubenwardy not until
20:14 rubenwardy all versions since
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20:14 paramat thanks will fix it soon
20:15 Jordach my pull also contains the simply off by one fix
20:15 Jordach there's like 5 more bugs that are almost invisible unless you're out looking for em
20:16 Jordach it's like finding the difference between #000000 and #010101
20:16 ShadowBot Jordach: Error: Delimiter not found in "HTTP Error 404: Not Found"
20:16 ShadowBot Jordach: Error: Delimiter not found in "HTTP Error 404: Not Found"
20:17 Jordach i only found the bug because setting the night sky to pure white didn't work at all
20:18 paramat good catch :)
20:19 paramat anyway, best use a different channel
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20:23 hisforever Hi everyone , I'd like to know if there is a way to not have animals spon so many?
20:23 rubenwardy mobs?
20:23 hisforever yes
20:25 rubenwardy #    Contains a value used to multiply Mob spawn values
20:25 rubenwardy mob_chance_multiplier (Mob chance multiplier) float 1.0
20:25 hisforever I seem to be inundated with animals
20:27 hisforever )rubenwrady: where do I find that setting?
20:27 hisforever I'm new to coding
20:28 rubenwardy it's not coding, lol
20:28 rubenwardy search for mob chance in advanced setting
20:28 hisforever ok
20:28 rubenwardy and reduce it to 0.5 for half the spawning
20:28 hisforever ok thanks that helps a lot
20:28 rubenwardy if it's not found in advanced settings, open or create a file called minetest.conf, and add:
20:29 rubenwardy mob_chance_multiplier = 0.5
20:29 hisforever thanks
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21:10 Ruslan1 Hello MarisaG
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21:43 deltasquared !mod ambience
21:43 MinetestBot deltasquared: Immersive Sounds [ambience] by Neuromancer - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=2807
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21:46 deltasquared !mod bows
21:46 MinetestBot deltasquared: Minecraft-like Bows!!! [bow] by Arcelmi - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=18310
21:52 deltasquared !mod unified_inventory
21:52 MinetestBot deltasquared: Unified Inventory [unified_inventory] by VanessaE - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=12767
21:52 luk3yx !help mod
21:52 MinetestBot https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md
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22:27 MinetestBot [git] paramat -> minetest/minetest: Night sky: Fix brightness threshold for applying night colours (#7859) 85b01ea https://git.io/fpmiJ (2018-11-12T22:25:35Z)
22:38 Ruslan1 MarisaG: are you here
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