Time Nick Message 08:45 jas_ !server 08:45 MinetestBot jas_: Metis - Tutorial | metis2.duckdns.org:30001 | Clients: 0/15, 0/1 | Version: 0.4.16 / tutorial | Ping: 14ms 08:45 jas_ !server jas0 08:45 MinetestBot jas_: jas0 | dcbl.duckdns.org | Clients: 1/15, 0/2 | Version: 5.0.0-dev / minetest | Ping: 129ms 08:48 VanessaE bah, just play on my servers. they're all you need :) 08:49 jas_ ha it's funny b/c my daughter asked if i had to choose between quake and minetest, and i said minetest because i can play it alone 08:49 jas_ then she asked between minecraft and minetest and i said minetest because of the sneak glitch 08:49 jas_ lol 08:49 jas_ "and that's all i need" 08:50 Quiark i think the time has come 08:50 Quiark to ask what is the sneak glitch 08:55 VanessaE no 08:55 VanessaE that subject is taboo here. 08:57 VanessaE ok ok. it's a bug-turned-feature that causes you to jump a bit higher than normal if you sneak at the same time (usually shift+space). It can be used to scale walls that are properly prepared, without a ladder 08:57 rubenwardy The sneak glitch is a bug which created useful behaviour. The glitch allowed you to climb nodes by holding sneak, and to create sneak elevators - a structure of nodes you could climb faster than a ladder 08:58 rubenwardy The bug was fixed by rewriting move. It was than readded as a coded feature 08:58 rubenwardy The bug in bug form allowed you to avoid fall damage 08:59 rubenwardy The new move is hated by some older players for being less fun 08:59 sfan5 nitpick: it wasn't readded, it was kept as an option during the rewrite 09:01 VanessaE didn't....I just say all of that? :P 09:02 Quiark aah 09:02 jas_ it appears the collisionbox feature of 0.5.0-dev affected the physical=true player property, and i feel the sneakjump behavior is slightly different in mt5 09:02 jas_ at least i get better framerates? idk 09:02 jas_ !server VanessaE 09:02 MinetestBot jas_: No results 09:02 rubenwardy Pretty sure it was a reimplementation by scanning nodes? 09:03 rubenwardy Well, guess I remembered wrong 09:03 rubenwardy There's an option to choose between old and new move 09:03 jas_ all i know is my sneak_jump mod is different in 0.4.16 and it uses physical=true in the github repo... i commented it out on this server 09:03 rubenwardy There's also an option to enable the feature in new move 09:03 VanessaE jas_: my servers are in their reboot cycle right now 09:03 jas_ mine is newmove on/sneak jump off by default; you have to hold 'Use' (sprint) to enable newmove/sneakglitch 09:04 VanessaE they'll be back up in about 5 minutes. 09:04 jas_ i mean oldmove/sneakjump (confusing sometimes heh) 09:06 jas_ ...and on my server you can eat your bones 09:07 VanessaE um....ew. 09:07 VanessaE :P 09:07 jas_ yep, plus it features a ton of lag. i should make papyrus edible 09:07 Shara I found the approach of using it on sprint too annoying.... For me, old sneak is all about having more control and careful precise movement, which doesn't really work with sprinting :P 09:07 jas_ works for me, it's the only way i like to play tbh. 09:08 jas_ but i play ESDF not WASD 09:08 VanessaE sneak + jump + sprint all together is useful on sloped terrain 09:08 Shara So you designed a totally custome and unique movement style then :P 09:08 jas_ god help me if i can ever right click to jump smh 09:08 Shara There are times I use it when sprinting... just tapping shift to get a boost over things, but I'd hate to "need" to sprint to use it 09:09 jas_ it's part of the 'survival' aspect in that the sprint meter is based on the hunger meter 09:09 jas_ so if you're hungry u cannot sprint 09:09 VanessaE ah, none of my servers use that 09:09 Shara That part is fine, but why should I need that to use old sneak? 09:09 jas_ versus new sneak ? 09:09 jas_ i tried it a few times, it's not the same 09:09 Shara That seems to be how you are saying it works? 09:10 jas_ i'll take the fall damage avoidance bad with the awesome movement physics good 09:10 jas_ newmove's sneak jump is not as good as oldmove sneak jump 09:10 jas_ imho 09:10 Shara I didn't care about the fall damage either way, but did want the rest. For me it's mostly the controls though. 09:10 Shara If I release shift, I want to fall. 09:10 jas_ i usually get fall damage anyway, or just try not to cheat (usually). i have shift as sprint, z as sneak 09:11 jas_ esdf, and space to jump (grr) 09:11 jas_ w inventory heh 09:11 jas_ txcvargb for the 8 item slots 09:11 jas_ (enter for chat, y for infirange) 09:15 jas_ oh and alt is zoom, and 1 is minimap... 09:16 jas_ and keyboard on lap, with giant mousepad and low sensitivity 09:16 VanessaE the only custom key I have set is E == descend/aux. because my hand can't hit shift easily, and I'm used to it. 09:17 VanessaE !server VanessaE 09:17 MinetestBot VanessaE: VanessaE's Nostalgia Server | daconcepts.com:30002 | Clients: 0/50, 0/0 | Version: 0.4.17.1 / mt_nostalgia | Ping: 8ms 09:17 jas_ nice 09:17 VanessaE oh fine, show the lame one. 09:18 VanessaE probably because that one almost always comes back up first after the morning backupcycle ends 09:19 jas_ !server VanessaE 09:19 MinetestBot jas_: VanessaE's Dreambuilder survival Server | daconcepts.com:30001 | Clients: 0/50, 0/0 | Version: 0.4.17.1 / minetest | Ping: 7ms 09:20 VanessaE I run five of 'em, plus I host one or two more for others. 09:20 jas_ they were some of the first i ever tried, and i always had dreambuilder around 09:21 VanessaE best servers in the community imho ;) 09:22 jas_ ha, i'd have to agree but i only ever once asked an admin for permission to play on a server before, and it wasnt a great experience 09:22 VanessaE heh 09:22 jas_ that was honestly the reason i made a server, because i didnt wanna ask permission to play on the servers, which was very common i dunno about now 09:22 jas_ what five years ago? or less 09:22 VanessaE well mine just have a simple rules+keyword screen. get through that and you're in. :) 09:23 jas_ yes i like that a lot better, that came later tho i think. at the time u had to find someone online i think 09:23 VanessaE yeah 09:24 VanessaE the trend in traffic over the past couple weeks has been encouraging, at least. 09:25 jas_ that's good. i wonder what troubles currently plague the android version. i think the way of the keyboard and mouse aren't long for this world, at least the mouse. trackpads these days i guess 09:26 VanessaE oh no 09:26 VanessaE you can take my mouse from me after I'm gone :P 09:26 jas_ hahaha yep. they're the best part! 09:27 jas_ the cutest part anyway, but they're peripheral more than the keyboard i think. i have a trackpad on this wireless keyboard i'm typing on. 15:18 Parakush hello all 15:19 Parakush been pouring over docs and can't seem to tame/mount a horse, using the main addon listed for horses but can't seem to get it 15:19 Parakush end up killing the damn things 15:19 rubenwardy mobs redo? 15:19 Parakush yeah 16:05 calcul0n Parakush, feed it with wheat to tame it (feed it until you see hearts), then put a saddle on it to mount 16:05 calcul0n you need an extra mod to be able to mount, mobs_mount or something like that 16:16 Parakush finally got to the point where i can mount it 16:16 Parakush tried applying horseshoes 16:17 Parakush and it either doesnt work.. or it kills the horse 16:17 Parakush (left click kills, right click does nothing) 16:17 Parakush tried mounted and dismounted 16:22 calcul0n i never needed the horseshoes but the tooltip says use on horse to apply 16:22 calcul0n maybe try the use key? 16:23 calcul0n (E by default) 16:25 Parakush will do, thanks 19:22 ManilaMan Is this still active? 19:22 sfan5 depends on your definition of "active" 19:22 paramat and "this" 19:23 ManilaMan Well, last time I played Minetest was 2 or 3 years ago. I was wondering if it will be worth it if I jump right back into the game 19:23 sfan5 !server players:most 19:23 MinetestBot sfan5: Blocky Survival | mt.packets4hire.com:30005 | Clients: 22/50, 20/22 | Version: 0.4.17.1 / minetest_game_modified | Ping: 89ms 19:23 paramat MT and MTGame are much improved since then 19:23 sfan5 hmm only 22 19:24 ManilaMan does MT have a Discord I can join? 19:24 paramat yeah 19:24 ManilaMan What's the link/name 19:25 sfan5 https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=18636 this one probably 19:25 ManilaMan Cool, thanks a lot ? 19:26 swift110 hey all 19:27 ManilaMan Wow, so it's still active I see 19:27 swift110 yes why wouldnt it be 19:27 swift110 good to see you ManilaMan 19:28 swift110 I am on discord as well maybe I will see you there 19:28 ManilaMan I just assumed. It's been years 19:28 ManilaMan Heya, swift110 19:28 ManilaMan Yeah, I just joined the Discord so I'm the new guy in the lounge 19:30 paramat serching the forum there seems to be several MT discord servers, not sure which is the most active one, but there is an active one somewhere 19:30 swift110 ok 19:34 rubenwardy There's one main one 19:34 rubenwardy The discord 19:34 rubenwardy The rest only have a few people in it 19:35 swift110 ok 19:38 swift110 so where is the main oe 21:02 Sketch2 When you use minetest.get_timeofday() in a CSM, does it poll the server, or just return the value that your local machine has? 21:05 sfan5 the latter 21:05 Sketch2 IIRC, normally your device polls the server every 20 seconds or so. just wondering if the command actually sends out another request, 'cuz I don't wanna spam the server. ok, ty 21:06 sfan5 the server actually send you the time of day at fixed intervals 21:09 Sketch2 cool, was pretty sure it was something like that. 22:12 rubenwardy Server Link 22:12 rubenwardy https://discord.gg/Wr6eXU3