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IRC log for #minetest, 2018-09-12

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01:50 Naelr so I am trying to add craftguide to my home minetest server and my world exists in /root/.minetest/worlds/world  I create a dir in that dir called mods and I have craftguild dir in there with the mod
01:50 Naelr it will not enable
01:50 Naelr can anyone help me trouble shoot please?
01:50 piesquared Just saying, minetest in root is a bad idea..
01:50 Naelr in the world.mt file I have changed load_mod_craftguild = true
01:51 piesquared Mkay...
01:51 piesquared Logs?
01:51 piesquared It might show the error.
01:51 Naelr I understand that it is home desktop I am trying to learn it for the kids ... ok looking at logs
01:51 piesquared All dependencies satisfied?
01:51 Quiark Naelr, mods don't go under your world
01:51 Naelr oh ... where do mods go
01:51 Naelr .minetest?
01:52 Quiark minetest/mods  AFAIK
01:52 Quiark or .minetest
01:52 piesquared That’s where you enable them, right?
01:52 piesquared For the world.
01:52 Quiark and enable them for a world in the GUI
01:52 Naelr it is minetestserver ... there is no gui
01:55 Naelr according to the wiki I have to enable it in world.mt file under the world directory
01:56 piesquared That’s right.
01:56 piesquared Or if you have access to the minetest app, you can do it there.
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02:36 Naelr ok so I had to copy craftguide here /usr/share/games/minetest/games/minetest_game/mods/ but it dosen't look anything like the wiki
02:43 piesquared Are wikis always right?
02:44 Quiark my mods are not in the game installation directory but rather in my home folder (on mac)
02:50 Naelr haha no wikis are not always right
02:50 Naelr but if the mod enables I would expect it to look like the webpage
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07:41 compro hello there!
07:41 compro how to destroy a cart?
07:42 compro Debug info says its immortal
07:42 compro is it?
07:42 timdorohin Ehm... when i add mod to the trusted mods and use minetest.request_insecure_environment() require() fails saying "require() is disabled when mod security is on." Is this a bug or feature?
07:42 compro feature I suppose
07:43 compro But it should have some workaround which I am unaware of
07:43 timdorohin why then we have trusted mods list?
07:44 Quiark compro, I wondered the same why is cart not removable
07:44 compro Quiark, so there isn't a way to remove it?
07:44 compro It currently hangs in the air :D
07:45 compro I think it is definitely a bug
07:45 Quiark wiki doesn't mention any way to remove it
07:46 compro Is there an exisiting issue on this?
07:50 timdorohin shift-click?
07:52 timdorohin Quiark: really, just shift+click on a wagon
07:54 ANAND The tooltip shown on hovering over the cart item in the inventory should've mentioned about shift-clicking to pick up
08:00 ChimneySwift yeah, also adding a mod to secure.trusted_mods should let them bypass security, if it doesn't something's broken 6O.o
08:01 timdorohin ChimneySwift: bugs, bugs everywhere!
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09:35 Helenah Power outage
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09:38 ANAND I had a power outage yesterday too
09:39 Helenah My bot came back up as soon as it's dedicated VPS came back up (Automatically), however it was late at night, and I went to bed.
09:40 Helenah ANAND: Sorry to hear that!
09:41 * Helenah starts up Eclipse IDE
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11:30 Helenah You guys have security issues, I've noticed.
11:30 Helenah For example, you shouldn't be announcing to someone that someone elses username exists...
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12:56 piesquared Anyone here use minetest management console?  I’m having issues changing the directories,
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13:34 Helenah piesquared: Define "management console"?
13:34 rubenwardy it's a third party project
13:34 Helenah hmm
13:34 rubenwardy https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=19819
13:34 piesquared But it does involve finding minetest files, what I want...
13:34 rubenwardy by marisag
13:34 piesquared Anyway, it’s an easy way to use a server.
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13:35 piesquared And she is my serverhost, but always AFK...
13:35 Helenah I might go pay DrFrankenstone a visit, I got a real bad case of HIV, that I can no longer feel my legs.
13:36 Helenah piesquared: Define "she"
13:36 piesquared marisag.
13:36 Helenah Aaaah
13:36 Helenah marisag: Hiya :3
13:36 Helenah Who wants coffee?
13:37 rubenwardy imb4 smth smth assuming her gender
13:37 rubenwardy I'm drinking coffee
13:37 rubenwardy in Cafe Nero
13:37 rubenwardy thanks for the offer
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14:41 rubenwardy !title https://rubenwardy.com/minetest_modding_book/en/map/objects.html
14:53 ANAND Oh nice!
14:54 ANAND I always wanted a rundown of entities. Good to see a chapter dedicated to them in the book. :D
14:56 ANAND I don't think it's related to the map section though
14:59 rubenwardy it is
14:59 rubenwardy entities are in the environment
14:59 rubenwardy just like nodes
14:59 rubenwardy they have a relation to map blocks
15:00 ANAND Hmm
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15:14 rubenwardy !title https://rubenwardy.com/minetest_modding_book/en/quality/security.html
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15:40 Helenah Wuzzy: Yo!
15:41 Wuzzy hello
15:44 Helenah Wuzzy: You maintain MineClone2, right?
15:44 Wuzzy yes
15:44 Helenah Where do I find oak trees with apples?
15:44 Wuzzy in forests, plains and extreme hills biomes
15:45 Wuzzy apples drop randomly when you mine oak leaves
15:45 Wuzzy apples are items in MCL2, not blocks
15:45 Helenah Aaaaaah
15:45 Helenah I expected them to be dangling by the trees. So all I neeed to do is axe the tree?
15:46 Wuzzy yes
15:46 Wuzzy you can either mine the leaves directly, or chop away the oak wood
15:46 Helenah hmm
15:46 Wuzzy the probability of oak leaves to drop an apple is the same
15:46 Helenah How I noticed the weather system doesn't transition back to clear.
15:46 Wuzzy like ... ever?
15:46 Helenah s/How/and
15:47 Helenah Never
15:47 Wuzzy o_O
15:47 Wuzzy mind sharing your minetest.conf?
15:47 Helenah I can set it to clear. I'm using what's default in mcl2
15:47 Wuzzy under normal settings the weather needs to cycle automatically. its weather after all
15:48 Helenah Agreed
15:48 Wuzzy if it never clears thats a bug
15:48 Helenah hmm
15:48 Wuzzy i have no idea if i can reproduce your bug. please gimme gimme gimme your minetest.conf. maybe there is something odd in there
15:49 Wuzzy although i doubt
15:50 Helenah Wuzzy: This is all I'm using https://pastebin.com/T1fQbcfr
15:51 Wuzzy are you sure this is your real minetest.conf?
15:51 Helenah It's just what's within the mcl2 subgame
15:51 Wuzzy this looks like minetest.conf in MineClone 2
15:51 Wuzzy no this is not what i want
15:51 Wuzzy i need the minetest.conf in your minetest data directory
15:51 Wuzzy where the games/ and worlds/ directories lie
15:51 Wuzzy i.e ~/.minetest on GNU/Linux
15:52 Wuzzy (i always forget where its on windows or apple)
15:52 Helenah This is all I have in there
15:52 Helenah name = Helenah
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15:56 Helenah Wuzzy: I apologise if you don't have the information you need from me.
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15:56 Wuzzy ok
15:57 Wuzzy hmmm so its clearly not the config file then...
15:57 Wuzzy your config file is not the problem
15:57 Wuzzy damn
15:57 Helenah hmm
15:57 Wuzzy it would have been TOO easy... haha
15:57 Helenah heh
15:57 Wuzzy anyway thanks for reporting the bug. mcl2 is still on a hiatus technically
15:57 Helenah I tried the game on several servers, all the same result.
15:57 Wuzzy oh crap
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15:58 Helenah Is there a way to see which biome I'm in? Like the name of it?
15:58 Wuzzy no
15:59 Helenah I am planning on forking MineClone2, however any fixes that I believe are relevant to MineClone 2, I'll commit them.
16:01 Wuzzy woah woah woah whaaaaat?
16:01 Wuzzy what will the fork be about?
16:02 Helenah I'm going to add to it biomes'o'plenty to it as a game
16:02 Wuzzy ah, yes, this is a deep change, probably not easy to do as a independent mod
16:02 Helenah On a dev server, I added alsorts of blocks
16:03 Wuzzy i wish you best of  luck with your biomes work
16:03 Helenah :) thanks
16:03 Wuzzy i recommend Amidstest
16:04 Wuzzy Helenah: do you use the latest release of MCL2?
16:05 Helenah Interesting
16:05 Helenah Yes
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16:07 Helenah Wuzzy: and I tested the weather on an unmodified version
16:07 Helenah As it makes more sense
16:20 Helenah Wuzzy: I can get sapling from the oak trees, but not apples
16:21 Wuzzy the apple chance is kinda low
16:23 Helenah Aaah
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16:29 Helenah Wuzzy: 7th tree, finally get an apple! xD
16:31 Helenah Wuzzy: Where do Melons spawn?
16:31 Wuzzy jungle
16:32 Wuzzy just explore the world. the more you explore, you more you find
16:39 Helenah Wuzzy: Is there any way to make the apples appear on the trees like the cocoa trees show their fruits?
16:39 Wuzzy no
16:39 Helenah I noticed you had to write mcl_cocoas
16:39 Wuzzy as i said, apples are items, not blocks
16:39 Helenah hmm
16:39 Wuzzy unless you want to program, then its of course possible :D
16:40 Helenah Yeah, I'm really interested in lua for Minetest.
16:41 * Helenah clones amidstest
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16:46 Helenah Wuzzy: I'm not finding it very clear on where the admistest jar is.
16:47 Wuzzy https://github.com/treer/amidstest/releases
16:48 Helenah Aaah, thank you very much!
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16:51 Helenah Wuzzy: Are there any dependencies? Sorry, I'm no good with Java. https://pastebin.com/ySCiyG0L
16:52 Wuzzy this is not an Amidstest support channel.
16:52 Wuzzy in other words: I have no idea
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18:45 * timdorohin implementing web-server inside mod
18:46 timdorohin i don't know how and why i come to this
18:47 VanessaE wat
18:48 timdorohin VanessaE: web-server using luasocket library.
18:48 VanessaE huh/
18:48 VanessaE interesting.
18:48 VanessaE well good luck :P
18:49 timdorohin it can provide server statistics as json
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18:52 obmai89 heya
18:52 obmai89 im searhing for swampturtle
18:52 obmai89 the admin from telesight server
18:52 obmai89 skywars
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18:57 sfan5 try asking on the forums
18:57 obmai89 hey
18:57 obmai89 you are here
18:58 obmai89 swampturtle
18:58 obmai89 tHello
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19:00 obmai89 OMG
19:00 obmai89 TELESIGHT
19:00 obmai89 NO WAY
19:00 obmai89 THE CREATOR OF SKYWARS
19:00 obmai89 NO WAY
19:01 obmai89 and so much more amazing games
19:01 Telesight pssss, this is a public area ...
19:01 obmai89 Im sorry sir
19:01 obmai89 I didnt know
19:01 obmai89 i am very sorry
19:01 obmai89 i didnt understand
19:01 Telesight It is ok ;-)
19:01 obmai89 I just wanna let you know
19:02 obmai89 you are amazing
19:02 obmai89 you are the total best
19:02 Telesight Ok, enough ...
19:02 obmai89 I really appriciate your amazing work on your amazing games!
19:02 obmai89 Keep going and keep updating every single game of yours!
19:03 Telesight Ssst, don't wake the others ...
19:03 VanessaE zzzz *snxxxxxx*  mmmf...
19:03 VanessaE zzzzzzzz
19:03 obmai89 NO WAY
19:03 obmai89 THE ACTUAL VANESSE
19:03 obmai89 im sorry
19:03 obmai89 im sorry for spamming
19:03 obmai89 im so excited
19:03 VanessaE YAHH!
19:03 * VanessaE falls off her chair
19:03 obmai89 oh my god
19:03 VanessaE *shakes head*
19:03 obmai89 i love you vanessae
19:03 obmai89 you are the best mod maker
19:03 VanessaE wtf?  *groan*
19:04 obmai89 oh my god im sorry for spamming
19:04 VanessaE heh it's okay
19:04 obmai89 can i dm you telesight and vanessae
19:04 Telesight Not too personal ...
19:04 VanessaE just stick to public chat, obmai89
19:04 obmai89 Okay!
19:04 obmai89 guys i only dreamed of meeting you!
19:04 obmai89 Im so happy!
19:04 obmai89 You guys are the best
19:05 obmai89 BTW vanessae i use your 512x texture pack
19:05 obmai89 soo cool
19:05 obmai89 it adds textures for technic too!
19:05 VanessaE glad you like it :)
19:05 obmai89 and x decor
19:05 VanessaE that's jp's
19:05 obmai89 isnt it yours
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19:05 Telesight haha
19:06 obmai89 you posted it on the forums
19:06 VanessaE nope, mine's home decor.
19:06 obmai89 Oh yeah
19:06 obmai89 home decor
19:06 obmai89 i ment
19:06 obmai89 lol
19:06 obmai89 still
19:06 obmai89 both of them
19:06 obmai89 amazing
19:06 obmai89 especialy home decor
19:06 obmai89 i love all those cool little stuff that make the game so much better
19:06 obmai89 and x decor too both of them are amazing!
19:06 * obmai89 hi
19:07 * obmai89 yay i can do this too
19:07 obmai89 You guys are like the most famous and cool people ever
19:07 obmai89 i am so happy as a kid to have the opurtunity to chat with you!
19:08 Telesight What is your playername?
19:08 obmai89 obmai89 sir
19:08 Telesight ok , the same
19:09 obmai89 yes
19:09 obmai89 im on skywars right now
19:09 obmai89 having fun :D
19:09 obmai89 i have like 50 of every colored arrow
19:09 Telesight That is a bad server, for bad people ;-)
19:09 obmai89 Hey no!
19:09 obmai89 skywars is so much fun
19:10 obmai89 Why are you saying its bad
19:10 VanessaE my servers are good, for good people :)
19:10 Telesight haha
19:10 obmai89 but telesight is good too
19:10 Telesight I do my best ...
19:11 obmai89 vanesae i never played your servers i think
19:11 obmai89 tell me your best one
19:11 obmai89 ill join it
19:11 obmai89 Telesight i can see that by the amazing quality of the games!
19:11 obmai89 servers
19:12 VanessaE all my servers are the best ;)
19:12 obmai89 Lol
19:13 obmai89 ok guys
19:13 obmai89 bye now
19:13 obmai89 im off to bed
19:13 obmai89 have a great evening night whatever the heck is your timezone :D
19:13 obmai89 YOU ARE THE BESTTT!
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19:31 NicWow anyone know of  good FFA server
19:31 NicWow like Mods are ok but I want to be able to blow up houses too. If I want to which I don't.
19:31 NicWow So no rules
19:31 NicWow Like pure FFA Sever?
19:31 NicWow (FFA = Free For All)
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