Time Nick Message 05:52 hmmmm hey all 05:52 hmmmm my 8 y/o nephew got into minecraft and i introduced him to minetest when visiting 05:52 hmmmm "it doesn't have the same stuff" :/ 05:53 hmmmm lol i gotta install mad mods 08:15 ANAND !tell sovetskiy Default position of player's "eyes" has been documented here: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/766fb7b46edab47f96b8b940e390daf5319261b7/doc/lua_api.txt#L5442 08:15 MinetestBot ANAND: I'll pass that on when sovetskiy is around 08:15 ANAND That'd be all. Thank you ;) 10:20 Ingar really need a new default digging sound 10:20 Ingar digging stone drives me insane 11:21 Helenah Where do I get a list of cmake variables? I tried --help-variable-list 11:22 Helenah It doesn't list things like ENABLE_* 11:26 Ingar Helenah: there's a lot of stuff in the README 11:27 Ingar for me, util/buildbot/buildwin64.sh was very helpful as well 11:27 Helenah :3 11:32 Ingar did I mention I don't like cmake ;) 11:32 Ingar and there are some inconsistencies in the documentation 11:32 Helenah Is curl actually needed? It says required for fetching of remote media via HTTP. 11:32 Helenah What's the other fetching option? 11:33 Helenah I'm compiling it down to minimal for vintage systems 11:33 Ingar curl worked fine on my pentium 200 11:34 Ingar Helenah: -DENABLE_CURL=0 ? 11:34 Ingar or maybe =FALSE 11:34 Helenah Yeah, agreed 11:35 Helenah but what is it fetching, from minetest community, or from minetest game servers? 11:35 Ingar according to src/CmakeList.txt it is also used to get the serverlist 11:35 Ingar and annopunce the server 11:35 Ingar *announce 11:36 Ingar Helenah: disclaimer, I don't know the minetest code base at all, I just read what's in the files ;) 11:36 Helenah There is BUILD_TYPE=MinSizeRel 11:37 Helenah Which apparently makes the executable as tiny as possible 11:37 Ingar it's probably the -Os compiler option 11:37 Helenah It is 11:39 Ingar my windows client+mods is 86M, I can hardly complain about that 11:46 Helenah I don't use client mods 11:47 rubenwardy Curl is required 11:47 rubenwardy It's also needed for the server list and content store 11:49 Helenah rubenwardy: For grabbing data from game servers? 11:49 rubenwardy No 11:49 rubenwardy Remote media grabs data from a HTTP server 11:49 rubenwardy Not the game server 11:56 Helenah Wait... theres a minimap? 11:56 Helenah o.o 12:00 Ingar ingame? 12:12 Helenah Apparently so 12:33 Helenah rubenwardy: How do I enable the minimap? 12:34 rubenwardy F9 12:34 rubenwardy You need the minimap item 12:36 Helenah rubenwardy: Source? 12:41 Helenah I've tried googling "minetest minimap item", however I'm not sure if you mean "mod" instead of "item". 12:42 CBugDCoder In the current version you only need to press f9 but in the latest dev builds you need the minimap item to use the minimap 12:42 Helenah "ERROR: minimap currently disabled by game or mod" 12:42 Helenah CBugDCoder: Please define "item". 12:42 CBugDCoder it is the item that you need 12:43 Helenah In in-game object? 12:43 Helenah *An 12:43 CBugDCoder yes 12:43 CBugDCoder the mapping kit 12:43 Helenah Thanks, that helped get better results through Google 12:43 CBugDCoder XD np 12:44 Helenah Do I need the item, is there no way to avoid it? 12:47 Helenah I just think it's weird that an item is required to enable the minimap. 13:06 ChimneySwift I think that's just if a mod disables it 13:12 ANAND minimap is supposed to be crafted in 5.0.0? o_O 13:14 ChimneySwift in mtg yes 13:15 ANAND I never knew... 13:15 ChimneySwift that and binoculars for zoom 13:20 ANAND That I know, but the minimap... I guess I don't use the minimap at all :/ 13:47 Helenah Does anyone know where I can get a "working" texture pack converter? 14:16 MinetestBot sovetskiy: Sep-08 08:15 UTC Default position of player's "eyes" has been documented here: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/766fb7b46edab47f96b8b940e390daf5319261b7/doc/lua_api.txt#L5442 14:18 sovetskiy MinetestBot, thanks for info about eye height 14:28 sfan5 sovetskiy: it's ANAND who left you this message 14:29 sovetskiy sfan5, why somebody needs to hide himself? 14:29 sfan5 ??? 14:30 Helenah I think I've managed to do it 14:30 sovetskiy why do they write as MinetestBot? 14:31 Helenah I bet it's automated 14:32 Helenah when they do git changes and stuff 14:32 sfan5 sovetskiy: this message was left you when you were offline 14:32 sfan5 they could not have sent it to you directly 14:32 Helenah sfan5: No 14:32 Helenah It was left just after they joined 14:32 Helenah IRC can lag and put messages in wrong orders 14:32 sfan5 Helenah: you are wrong 14:32 sfan5 it literally says when the message was left, today at 08:15 UTC 14:33 Helenah I'm talking about IRC, I thought you was too 14:33 Shara It was "delivered" just after sovetskiy joined. Not left at that time. 14:33 Shara And either way, the sender's name is invluded, so no one is hiding 14:35 sovetskiy Thank you. I know IRC protocol bad. 14:38 Helenah :/ 14:39 Helenah Now to figure out how to set the texture pack on my server 14:39 Helenah heh 14:39 Helenah Okay 14:40 Helenah It mentions something about a texture packs tab... 14:41 sfan5 you can't set a texture pack server-side 14:42 sfan5 if you absolutely want this, you will need to manually overwrite the texture files in the game/mods 14:42 Helenah I can't seem to make proper sense of this https://wiki.minetest.net/Installing_Texture_Packs 14:42 rubenwardy the server automatically uses the texture pack called server 14:42 rubenwardy so rename the texture pack to server 14:42 Helenah Where is the tab on my minetest client? 14:42 Helenah I did... 14:43 Helenah I put it in textures/base/pack/ 14:43 rubenwardy that 14:43 rubenwardy that's not right 14:43 rubenwardy textures/server/ 14:43 Helenah I had that originally 14:43 rubenwardy it worked for me 14:43 rubenwardy try different locations 14:43 rubenwardy maybe it should be in ~/.minetest/textures/server 14:43 rubenwardy or /usr/share/minetest/textures/server 14:43 Helenah then I looked at the file tree on that guide after finding it doesn't work, and found it tells me to place in textures/base/pack/ which still doesn't work 14:43 Helenah o.o 14:44 Helenah I didn't know it went in .minetest... 14:45 sfan5 rubenwardy: wait since when does it do that 14:45 rubenwardy since ever 14:45 rubenwardy XD 14:45 rubenwardy I did that on april fools 14:46 rubenwardy src/server.cpp:2255: fs::GetRecursiveDirs(paths, porting::path_user + DIR_DELIM + "textures" + DIR_DELIM + "server"); 14:47 sovetskiy rubenwardy, BTW, do entities described in your modding book? and how to work with them 16:43 NicWow Hey 16:44 Krock heyy 16:44 sovetskiy Привет 16:52 Astrobe mgv7 is able to generate sea, inland ponds, and pits even on coasts. How does it decide to fill with water or not? What's the magic? 16:56 Helenah Installing Eclipse Oxygen. 17:04 Krock Astrobe: when it's below sea level: fill. I think caves are carved afterwards 17:05 Astrobe I see. So those pits are just "surface caves". ty. 17:08 Krock probably, yes. 17:26 dawn Hello 17:27 Krock hi 17:27 sovetskiy Привет 17:27 dawn So I have been enjoying this neat little game you have got here 17:28 Krock Glad to hear that 17:29 sovetskiy So do I 17:29 Krock Did you encounter some problems? (the sentence sounds a bit like that) 17:31 dawn Krock my friend is adminstrating it all, I just play 17:32 Krock ah :) 17:33 dawn well as long as the cat is letting me, she demands so much time that it can be distracting 17:45 NicWow is there an FFA Minetest server? 17:45 NicWow (free for all survival) 17:47 Krock If you consider servers which block guest or potentially low quality player names still as "free", then just look out for the PvP and HP icons in the serevr list 17:48 Krock From my perspective "FFA" means that the ranking of players or their language does not matter in order to join a multiplayer game. Ranking usually does not exist in Minetest but the language is mostly fixed to English only .. so it depends on how exactly you meant it 17:51 Krock ^ NicWow 17:54 Astrobe FFA often means the opposite of team versus team in FPS games. 18:01 Krock Then everything but "Subgames" and "CTF" 18:19 Jordach_ i see the BSP wizard is here. illwieckz ;) 18:20 illwieckz hi Jordach_ ! 21:35 MinetestBot 02[git] 04numberZero -> 03minetest-mods/mesecons: Fix vertical movestone textures (#430) 13fa040eb https://git.io/fA2rY (152018-09-08T21:35:15Z)