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IRC log for #minetest, 2018-09-08

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05:52 hmmmm hey all
05:52 hmmmm my 8 y/o nephew got into minecraft and i introduced him to minetest when visiting
05:52 hmmmm "it doesn't have the same stuff" :/
05:53 hmmmm lol i gotta install mad mods
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08:15 ANAND !tell sovetskiy Default position of player's "eyes" has been documented here: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/766fb7b46edab47f96b8b940e390daf5319261b7/doc/lua_api.txt#L5442
08:15 MinetestBot ANAND: I'll pass that on when sovetskiy is around
08:15 ANAND That'd be all. Thank you ;)
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10:20 Ingar really need a new default digging sound
10:20 Ingar digging stone drives me insane
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11:21 Helenah Where do I get a list of cmake variables? I tried --help-variable-list
11:22 Helenah It doesn't list things like ENABLE_*
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11:26 Ingar Helenah: there's a lot of stuff in the README
11:27 Ingar for me, util/buildbot/buildwin64.sh was very helpful as well
11:27 Helenah :3
11:32 Ingar did I mention I don't like cmake ;)
11:32 Ingar and there are some inconsistencies in the documentation
11:32 Helenah Is curl actually needed? It says required for fetching of remote media via HTTP.
11:32 Helenah What's the other fetching option?
11:33 Helenah I'm compiling it down to minimal for vintage systems
11:33 Ingar curl worked fine on my pentium 200
11:34 Ingar Helenah: -DENABLE_CURL=0 ?
11:34 Ingar or maybe =FALSE
11:34 Helenah Yeah, agreed
11:35 Helenah but what is it fetching, from minetest community, or from minetest game servers?
11:35 Ingar according to src/CmakeList.txt it is also used to get the serverlist
11:35 Ingar and annopunce the server
11:35 Ingar *announce
11:36 Ingar Helenah: disclaimer, I don't know the minetest code base at all, I just read what's in the files ;)
11:36 Helenah There is BUILD_TYPE=MinSizeRel
11:37 Helenah Which apparently makes the executable as tiny as possible
11:37 Ingar it's probably the -Os compiler option
11:37 Helenah It is
11:39 Ingar my windows client+mods is 86M, I can hardly complain about that
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11:46 Helenah I don't use client mods
11:47 rubenwardy Curl is required
11:47 rubenwardy It's also needed for the server list and content store
11:49 Helenah rubenwardy: For grabbing data from game servers?
11:49 rubenwardy No
11:49 rubenwardy Remote media grabs data from a HTTP server
11:49 rubenwardy Not the game server
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11:56 Helenah Wait... theres a minimap?
11:56 Helenah o.o
12:00 Ingar ingame?
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12:12 Helenah Apparently so
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12:33 Helenah rubenwardy: How do I enable the minimap?
12:34 rubenwardy F9
12:34 rubenwardy You need the minimap item
12:36 Helenah rubenwardy: Source?
12:41 Helenah I've tried googling "minetest minimap item", however I'm not sure if you mean "mod" instead of "item".
12:42 CBugDCoder In the current version you only need to press f9 but in the latest dev builds you need the minimap item to use the minimap
12:42 Helenah "ERROR: minimap currently disabled by game or mod"
12:42 Helenah CBugDCoder: Please define "item".
12:42 CBugDCoder it is the item that you need
12:43 Helenah In in-game object?
12:43 Helenah *An
12:43 CBugDCoder yes
12:43 CBugDCoder the mapping kit
12:43 Helenah Thanks, that helped get better results through Google
12:43 CBugDCoder XD np
12:44 Helenah Do I need the item, is there no way to avoid it?
12:47 Helenah I just think it's weird that an item is required to enable the minimap.
13:06 ChimneySwift I think that's just if a mod disables it
13:12 ANAND minimap is supposed to be crafted in 5.0.0? o_O
13:14 ChimneySwift in mtg yes
13:15 ANAND I never knew...
13:15 ChimneySwift that and binoculars for zoom
13:20 ANAND That I know, but the minimap... I guess I don't use the minimap at all :/
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13:47 Helenah Does anyone know where I can get a "working" texture pack converter?
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14:16 MinetestBot sovetskiy: Sep-08 08:15 UTC <ANAND> Default position of player's "eyes" has been documented here: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/766fb7b46edab47f96b8b940e390daf5319261b7/doc/lua_api.txt#L5442
14:18 sovetskiy MinetestBot, thanks for info about eye height
14:28 sfan5 sovetskiy: it's ANAND who left you this message
14:29 sovetskiy sfan5, why somebody needs to hide himself?
14:29 sfan5 ???
14:30 Helenah I think I've managed to do it
14:30 sovetskiy why do they write as MinetestBot?
14:31 Helenah I bet it's automated
14:32 Helenah when they do git changes and stuff
14:32 sfan5 sovetskiy: this message was left you when you were offline
14:32 sfan5 they could not have sent it to you directly
14:32 Helenah sfan5: No
14:32 Helenah It was left just after they joined
14:32 Helenah IRC can lag and put messages in wrong orders
14:32 sfan5 Helenah: you are wrong
14:32 sfan5 it literally says when the message was left, today at 08:15 UTC
14:33 Helenah I'm talking about IRC, I thought you was too
14:33 Shara It was "delivered" just after sovetskiy joined. Not left at that time.
14:33 Shara And either way, the sender's name is invluded, so no one is hiding
14:35 sovetskiy Thank you. I know IRC protocol bad.
14:38 Helenah :/
14:39 Helenah Now to figure out how to set the texture pack on my server
14:39 Helenah heh
14:39 Helenah Okay
14:40 Helenah It mentions something about a texture packs tab...
14:41 sfan5 you can't set a texture pack server-side
14:42 sfan5 if you absolutely want this, you will need to manually overwrite the texture files in the game/mods
14:42 Helenah I can't seem to make proper sense of this https://wiki.minetest.net/Installing_Texture_Packs
14:42 rubenwardy the server automatically uses the texture pack called server
14:42 rubenwardy so rename the texture pack to server
14:42 Helenah Where is the tab on my minetest client?
14:42 Helenah I did...
14:43 Helenah I put it in textures/base/pack/
14:43 rubenwardy that
14:43 rubenwardy that's not right
14:43 rubenwardy textures/server/
14:43 Helenah I had that originally
14:43 rubenwardy it worked for me
14:43 rubenwardy try different locations
14:43 rubenwardy maybe it should be in  ~/.minetest/textures/server
14:43 rubenwardy or   /usr/share/minetest/textures/server
14:43 Helenah then I looked at the file tree on that guide after finding it doesn't work, and found it tells me to place in textures/base/pack/ which still doesn't work
14:43 Helenah o.o
14:44 Helenah I didn't know it went in .minetest...
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14:45 sfan5 rubenwardy: wait since when does it do that
14:45 rubenwardy since ever
14:45 rubenwardy XD
14:45 rubenwardy I did that on april fools
14:46 rubenwardy src/server.cpp:2255:fs::GetRecursiveDirs(paths, porting::path_user + DIR_DELIM + "textures" + DIR_DELIM + "server");
14:47 sovetskiy rubenwardy, BTW, do entities described in your modding book? and how to work with them
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16:43 NicWow Hey
16:44 Krock heyy
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16:44 sovetskiy Привет
16:52 Astrobe mgv7 is able to generate sea, inland ponds, and pits even on coasts. How does it decide to fill with water or not? What's the magic?
16:56 Helenah Installing Eclipse Oxygen.
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17:04 Krock Astrobe: when it's below sea level: fill. I think caves are carved afterwards
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17:05 Astrobe I see. So those pits are just "surface caves". ty.
17:08 Krock probably, yes.
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17:26 dawn Hello
17:27 Krock hi
17:27 sovetskiy Привет
17:27 dawn So I have been enjoying this neat little game you have got here
17:28 Krock Glad to hear that
17:29 sovetskiy So do I
17:29 Krock Did you encounter some problems? (the sentence sounds a bit like that)
17:31 dawn Krock my friend is adminstrating it all, I just play
17:32 Krock ah :)
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17:33 dawn well as long as the cat is letting me, she demands so much time that it can be distracting
17:45 NicWow is there an FFA Minetest server?
17:45 NicWow (free for all survival)
17:47 Krock If you consider servers which block guest or potentially low quality player names still as "free", then just look out for the PvP and HP icons in the serevr list
17:48 Krock From my perspective "FFA" means that the ranking of players or their language does not matter in order to join a multiplayer game. Ranking usually does not exist in Minetest but the language is mostly fixed to English only .. so it depends on how exactly you meant it
17:51 Krock ^ NicWow
17:54 Astrobe FFA often means the opposite of team versus team in FPS games.
18:01 Krock Then everything but "Subgames" and "CTF"
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18:19 Jordach_ i see the BSP wizard is here. illwieckz ;)
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18:20 illwieckz hi Jordach_ !
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21:35 MinetestBot [git] numberZero -> minetest-mods/mesecons: Fix vertical movestone textures (#430) fa040eb https://git.io/fA2rY (2018-09-08T21:35:15Z)
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