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ManElevation |
wasent there something so you could save builñdings from any server? |
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ManElevation |
wasent there something so you could save buildings from any server? |
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sfan5 |
local map saving |
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ManElevation |
ok so if i put this in my minetest.config were will it save? enable_local_map_saving = true |
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yes |
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entuland |
o/ |
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ManElevation |
ok thx |
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[git] SmallJoker -> minetest/minetest: Fix rtt >= 0.0f assertion and free_move crash 1d1cf00 https://git.io/f4S1s (2018-06-24T12:48:19Z) |
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[git] paramat -> minetest/minetest: Decoration API: Add lightweight ability to have complete coverage (#7… de621d5 https://git.io/f4SQJ (2018-06-24T16:14:18Z) |
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R-One |
hello, I am under 0.4.17 there is the function minetest.get_biome_id (biome_name) but it is not documented on the wiki dev and I only obey values nil ... someone would he the kindness of show me as an example how to recover the ID of the biome of a boc? thank you https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/ea86ecf015cd82d2daa4c0f4a82096402290a5a6/doc/lua_api.txt#L2600 |
| 17:06 |
Krock |
the dev wiki is (almost) outdated by definition |
| 17:07 |
Krock |
you can get the biome per coordinate using minetest.get_mapgen_object() on generate |
| 17:08 |
Krock |
however, outside of on_generate you can use the function "minetest.get_biome_data" which was added in 5.0-dev |
| 17:08 |
Krock |
however, this requires an the network incompatible, new version. |
| 17:08 |
Krock |
-an |
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R-One |
thanks krock, i don't code in 5.0 before the stable branch |
| 17:09 |
R-One |
because i have a server with lot of android user |
| 17:10 |
Krock |
there are 5.0-dev android clients available. however, bugs take long to fix in that area |
| 17:11 |
Krock |
btw, this would be the up to date documentation for 0.4.x: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/stable-0.4/doc/lua_api.txt |
| 17:13 |
R-One |
people prefer to go through the appstore in educational structures. version 0.5-dev is an apk no? |
| 17:16 |
R-One |
it's the same one I quoted above, but from my little experience I did not have to understand the only dicumentation that is: Returns the biome id, as used in the biomemap Mapgen object, for a given biome_name string. |
| 17:18 |
Krock |
no, these are unofficial builds because we only have one Minetest application there |
| 17:18 |
Krock |
appstore? as in iOS? We don't do that |
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rubenwardy |
Minetest isn't allowed to be on the app store due to GPL |
| 17:19 |
rubenwardy |
any Minetest forks on the app store are illegal |
| 17:20 |
Krock |
yes, you can feed that function a biome identifier, which is specified in the definition to get the ID of it. similar to get_content_id of nodes |
| 17:21 |
R-One |
sorry I meant playstore |
| 17:21 |
Krock |
You can look up "Mapgen objects" to see how you get an array of IDs for the newly generated area. comparing those with what you got by get_biome_id is afterwards possible |
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R-One |
Thank you for taking the time to answer Krock ... I understand the principle but with my little experience in the mapgen and without example, I drown completely for the moment. |
| 17:30 |
Krock |
hmm.. 1 moment |
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Krock |
R-One, finally found the mod. here's an example: https://github.com/Distributed-DeadLock/thelowerroad/blob/master/init.lua#L629-L633 |
| 17:34 |
Krock |
the same for the biomes |
| 17:35 |
Krock |
the index for this array is then calculated like this: https://github.com/Distributed-DeadLock/thelowerroad/blob/master/init.lua#L783-L784 |
| 17:35 |
Krock |
using the x and z axis, starting fromm the lowest mapblock point onwards |
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R-One |
thank you very much for taking your time to answer, but the further I go, the more I get lost ... I just wanted to get the biome ID of node from the player's position, but obviously I do not have the level yet to code that. |
| 17:46 |
Krock |
well, with 0.4.x that sadly won't be possible because that function is only helpful for when mapblocks generate - i.e. useless in late game play |
| 17:47 |
Krock |
so it's not too bad when you got lost somewhere :) |
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paramat |
yes move to 5.0.0 stable when it's released, it's amazing. the android apps will soon update to be compatible i'm sure |
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R-One |
is there an approximate date for version 5.0.0 because I am going to start a big project with the education community in September 2018, and I do not think I can migrate until April 2019. |
| 18:30 |
sfan5 |
why would you need to migrate? |
| 18:30 |
R-One |
just updating on tablets in schools is sometimes complicated because teachers do not have access to the store and others ... even if I prefer that they use a PC. |
| 18:30 |
sfan5 |
if you get everything up and running with 0.4.17, you should be able to just stay there |
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R-One |
why migrate? because there are so many cool new features in the 5.0.0 ;-) |
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paramat |
5.0.0 will hopefully be out around september-october, certainly by year-end |
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clavi |
so it will be called 5.0.0 instead of 0.5.0? |
| 18:49 |
Krock |
yes. |
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GNU[BDC] |
0.4 then 5.0 ? |
| 19:11 |
GNU[BDC] |
why not 1.0 |
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Krock |
next question please. already seen that one |
| 19:22 |
paramat |
lol =) |
| 19:26 |
R-One |
now they use the semantic version (https://semver.org/) but before what was it? |
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GNU[BDC] |
so 0.4.17 client wont be able to play in 5.0? |
| 19:27 |
Krock |
before it was 0.sematic_version |
| 19:27 |
Krock |
GNU[BDC], yes and no. maps are compatible, mods too, network not. |
| 19:27 |
GNU[BDC] |
5.0 next 10.0? lol |
| 19:27 |
Krock |
10.0 if you want map breakage and API breakage |
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Krock |
I doubt the people would be happy about that |
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GNU[BDC] |
i can use my old 0.4.13 era mods in 5.0? |
| 19:29 |
Krock |
<Krock> GNU[BDC], yes and no. maps are compatible, mods too |
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GNU[BDC] |
Krock: what part is no? only old client |
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R-One |
0.4 to 5.0 it's major change ... it can make incompatible API changes |
| 19:31 |
Krock |
R-One, but semver is only applied after 5.0 |
| 19:32 |
Krock |
GNU[BDC], could you please take a moment and try to use common sense while reading my initial message again? |
| 19:32 |
GNU[BDC] |
Krock: i did. I can't figure out what parts wont work |
| 19:33 |
GNU[BDC] |
network is client server thing? |
| 19:34 |
Krock |
Things that will work as before: mods, maps, texture packs, games. Things that won't: playing on the other server version |
| 19:36 |
GNU[BDC] |
ok |
| 19:37 |
GNU[BDC] |
Krock: is it possible to disable client mods from server side? |
| 19:42 |
Krock |
0.4.x: no. 5.0-dev: yes. |
| 19:42 |
GNU[BDC] |
i ment 5.0 stable |
| 19:42 |
Krock |
but real badass players wouldn't care about what the server says and silently enable them anyway |
| 19:42 |
sur3 |
what was this prejoin register function to filter usernames? |
| 19:43 |
Krock |
5.0-dev represents the current development state of 5.0, so the final version will pretty sure contain this feature for CSM restriction |
| 19:43 |
Krock |
sur3, https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/stable-0.4/doc/lua_api.txt#L2407 Ctrl + F helps |
| 19:44 |
sur3 |
ah ok just didnt find it in the wiki, but then I will look in that api file next times for functions, thx :) |
| 19:44 |
Krock |
only _try_ to use the wiki if lua_api doesn't help you |
| 19:45 |
sur3 |
Ah ok |
| 19:45 |
Krock |
as in: when the lua_api is not documented well enough or unclear for you. the wiki is always outdated |
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paramat |
we're not using strict semver, just major.minor.patch :) |
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rubenwardy |
it's basically semver minus some anal version rules |
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MinetestBot |
[git] ClobberXD -> minetest/minetest: Lua_api.txt: Replace `engine.*` with `core.*` (#7474) d565783 https://git.io/f4Sxr (2018-06-24T20:18:25Z) |
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sur3 |
is prejoin called before newplayer or between newplayer and join? |
| 21:24 |
User11 |
hi |
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entuland |
sur3, I would implement both and minetest.debug() to see the actual order |
| 21:33 |
sur3 |
ah ok interessting idea |
| 21:33 |
sur3 |
but then i have to restart the server to find the order.. :-/ |
| 21:48 |
entuland |
oh well, no |
| 21:48 |
entuland |
just spin another instance |
| 21:48 |
entuland |
locally |
| 21:48 |
entuland |
to test |
| 21:48 |
entuland |
you can have multiple instances and fake new players by entering with a dummy name on a dummy world, sur3 |
| 21:49 |
entuland |
after all you need to spin it locally to test [whatever you're testing] |
| 21:50 |
sur3 |
Well I always restarted the server multiple times when testing a feature of course for the other players that is a bit annoying i suppose.. ^^" |
| 21:51 |
sur3 |
but I need just an other world folder to run a different server instance? |
| 21:52 |
entuland |
just run minetest again |
| 21:53 |
entuland |
and choose a new world, or another you do tests on |
| 21:53 |
entuland |
then run as a server locally |
| 21:53 |
entuland |
then run minetest once more |
| 21:53 |
entuland |
and connect locally to that new server you just run |
| 21:53 |
entuland |
it will trigger the new player callback, in theory |
| 21:58 |
entuland |
actually, if you create a new world it should trigger the new player callback for "singleplayer" the first time you run it (not as a server) and for the first time you run it as a server (with the username you choose there) |
| 21:58 |
sur3 |
Ok I'll try to copy the world folder and run with a config where I set "server_announce = false".. |
| 21:58 |
entuland |
why do you need to copy the world over? |
| 21:58 |
entuland |
can't you do your tests on a fresh world? |
| 21:58 |
sur3 |
for having the same mods enabled |
| 21:59 |
entuland |
oh... do you have that many that it's faster to copy the files than enabling them? |
| 21:59 |
sur3 |
Yeah I suppose so, I would at least have to copy the world.mt file, can I start with a world folder with just world.mt in it? |
| 22:02 |
entuland |
no idea |
| 22:02 |
entuland |
I would run TIAS on it :P |
| 22:03 |
entuland |
in the worst case you'll have it error out |
| 22:03 |
sur3 |
what's TIAS? |
| 22:06 |
sur3 |
--world <value> Set world path (implies local game) ('list' lists all) |
| 22:07 |
sur3 |
it says implies local game, so seems I can't run a second server in parallel.. :-/ |
| 22:09 |
entuland |
TIAS is what you have just done (Try It And See) :P |
| 22:09 |
entuland |
I would just spin a new world and enable only the mods I need to test |
| 22:09 |
sur3 |
ah ok but I didnt do TIAS, I just read the command line help from minetestserver ^^ |
| 22:10 |
sur3 |
yeah but I cant run locally, so if I cant specify the world path for a remote server I cant run it.. |
| 22:11 |
sur3 |
I wonder why setting a world path implies a local game? doesnt make sense IMO.. |
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MinetestBot |
paramat: Jun-24 21:09 UTC <tumeninodes> https://0bin.net/paste/WOQe0Qi6PBe33S3w#slsvif8nk6S73sfI69tRsEd4N4fnXe5n9FKyM3S3mxw |
| 22:12 |
entuland |
no idea, sur3, never really messed with server apart from dummy ones I ran locally to test some multiplayer stuff |
| 22:13 |
sur3 |
yeah problem is I cant run locally because its a remote server ^^ |
| 22:14 |
sur3 |
Ahh wait probably its not possible to give the path via CLI because it has to be specified in the conf file.. |
| 22:15 |
sur3 |
ls |
| 22:16 |
entuland |
uh? |
| 22:16 |
entuland |
can't you simply have the mods you need to test installed locally and run a local instance with a fresh world? |
| 22:17 |
entuland |
I mean, forget about your running remote server for a second, just spin your own minetest |
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adfeno |
Hi all! There is a player who is using Minetest on a Kindle, and we want to know where is the "last sent message history" key? |
| 22:25 |
sur3 |
yeah but to run it locally i would have to copy over the mod folder.. |
| 22:28 |
sur3 |
adfeno, sry what you talking about? |
| 22:28 |
sur3 |
ah wait |
| 22:28 |
sur3 |
I think I understand |
| 22:28 |
sur3 |
but I dont have a kinde, is there no up-key? ^^ |
| 22:29 |
adfeno |
For the messages you type, you can get the last messages you sent by usng the up-key |
| 22:29 |
sur3 |
yes thats what I meant |
| 22:30 |
adfeno |
However, I know this exists in normal computers, but I'm not sure how to do that in mobile ones. |
| 22:30 |
sur3 |
well a kindle is a reader right? I suppose its just page-up then probably? |
| 22:30 |
sur3 |
but I dont know, worst case he has just to retype the message he wants to send ^^ |
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sur3 |
adfeno, you could probably try to set the history key in the minetest.conf on the kindle.. |
| 22:45 |
adfeno |
Hm |
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sur3 |
though I cant find that specific key in the default options.. :-/ |
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adfeno |
Neither I :S |
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paramat |
i guess it acts just like an android phone? |
| 22:48 |
adfeno |
And how would it work for Android? |
| 22:48 |
adfeno |
(Mine can't run Minetest, this is why I ask) |
| 22:48 |
paramat |
i'm not sure |
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paramat |
i would guess in the menu there may be a chat history option, or maybe not, android MT lacks some features |
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