Time Nick Message 00:33 lsab Hello. I have a slow lan network, I was thinking if there is any way to reduce world size then it'd load easily 00:33 lsab is there? 00:34 illwieckz hello lsab 00:35 illwieckz people there live on different timezones, perhaps the answer will come later (I don't know the answer to that question myself) ;-) 00:35 lsab ok, thank you 08:25 huesal world only grows as you explore it 08:52 HearingVo Can anyone provide me with some BitCoin? 12:43 sur3 I had a admin sneaking privs of an owner by using /setpassword I thinkk this is a security issue and /setpassword should only work on users that have less or equal important privs, so that you can't change the password of someone with "server, set, privs, delprotect, protection_bypass" if you have at least the same privs. 12:44 sur3 *can only .. if 12:48 Shara You probably should not give the password priv to anyone who doesn't have the highest level of privs anyway... 12:48 riff-IRC Shara: very true 12:49 Shara And quite honestly, that admin of yours should get the boot. Anyone who abuses privs doesn't deserve them. 12:55 sur3 yes I griefed his server in revenche, took me 2h to fix my server and after he didnt get his server fixed after 2d I helped him fix it, have a peace treaty with him now again but he doesnt get important privs on my server anymore although he gave me all on his again ^^ 12:57 Shara Well, that shows your maturity level... 12:57 sur3 but I still think it should be possible to grant the setpassword right for mod to change the password of normal users when they forgot them without giving away all other provs basically as well. 12:58 sur3 *privs 13:01 sur3 Shara, how do you mean that? I think it is best to beat people with their own weapons so they see what they did wrong, I think that is not immature..?! Or you're a buddhist? :D 13:02 Shara It just seems wonderfully childish to me. That time is much better spent learning how to manage your own server better. 13:02 rubenwardy definitely very childish 13:03 sur3 meh 13:09 sur3 it would be great if the travelnet would support unifieddyes, then one could turn it into an old red phonebooth or a blue tardis :D 13:14 sur3 where can I find the setpassword command, then I can change it myself so it cant change the password of people with server privs.. 13:15 sur3 or is it possible to just overwrite that command in a mod? 13:43 sur3 Hm it's a bit annoying that I cant enable mesecons_gates without enabling mesecons_delayer as well, because with mesecons_delayer it is pretty easy to build an endless chian reaction to simulate a blinky_plant.. :-/ 13:43 sur3 *chain 15:11 entuland sur3, not sure I get your statement. Seems like you _must_ enable mesecons_delayer but it also seems you _want_ to enable it 15:11 entuland as such I don't see the annoying part 15:16 sur3 entuland, nope I dont want the delayer or blinky plants because continues frequencies take more server recources, I dont understand why the delayer is needed to have gates 15:16 entuland ah 15:16 entuland now I see what you mean 15:17 entuland you could check if the gates file make any reference to the delayer 15:17 entuland if not, I guess you could remove that dependency 15:18 entuland or point that out to the maintainer 15:18 entuland and/or 15:21 entuland searching for "delay" in the gates init.lua finds nothing, and there isn't much in the delayer mod 15:21 entuland I guess the dependency is wrong 15:35 julian_ is it in minetest possible to make an horizontal flat entity? like a horizontal upright_sprite? 15:36 julian_ maybe using visual_size and drawtype cube? 15:36 julian_ and why isn't there such a sprite? 15:37 entuland julian_, you need it to be an entity, or a simple node would be fine? 15:37 Krock use the upright_sprite type...? 15:37 Krock oh right, you'd need to rotate it 15:38 Krock but for these axis it's yet only possible by using attachments. so two entities basically :( 15:39 julian_ entuland i need it to be a entity 15:39 entuland okay 15:40 julian_ and how could i rotate the upright_sprite to make it flat? 15:40 julian_ i try it now with visual = cube and visualsize = {x=1, y=0} 15:42 julian_ ha! seems to work :D 15:43 entuland :) 15:47 julian_ do u know the painting mod? 15:47 julian_ i wanna make atm it possible to place images from that mod on floor/ceiling 15:55 julian_ and i finished it :) 16:28 entuland eheheh, I think I got most of it sorted: https://i.imgur.com/bCVS91Q.jpg 16:29 entuland https://i.imgur.com/7lU0wgT.jpg 16:29 entuland :P 16:30 entuland ahahah 16:30 entuland you cannot rotate doors with the screwdrivew 16:30 entuland driver 16:30 entuland but when I rebuild them with my mod, the doors actually _get_ rotated 16:30 entuland and attempting to open / close them the game crashes ahahah 16:32 entuland also, obsidian glases do this funky thing when they get rebuilt using the voxel manipulator: https://i.imgur.com/lKkpJFs.png 16:34 entuland (the error there is the one from the crash when trying to open the door, unrelated to the obsidian glasses) 16:51 Astrobe !tell lsab Checkout https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=1825 16:51 MinetestBot Astrobe: I'll pass that on when lsab is around 16:56 entuland uh? didnt MinetestBot reply with some snarky line along the lines of "yeah yeah whatever"? 16:56 sfan5 that's random 16:57 entuland ah 16:58 entuland too bad 16:58 rubenwardy MinetestBot is rude 16:58 rubenwardy ShadowBot is stupid 16:58 ShadowBot rubenwardy: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). 16:58 entuland ehehehe 17:01 Krock confirmed 17:04 paramat LOL Shara is a buddhist 17:05 * Shara pokes paramat :D 17:05 Shara Ehh, if that's what it takes to run a server well? :D 17:05 Krock how's that funny? 17:06 Shara Randomly saying someone must be a certain religion due to totally stupid reasons? 17:07 serp you must be jedi 17:09 paramat Krock i was sort of quoting something earlier in this channel :) 17:09 Krock oh 17:11 Shara Someone suggested I must be buddist because I think revenge griefing someone's server is childish :) 17:13 paramat entuland framed glass does that due to param2, see https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/e8b687d7cafd7ff77572238cf98954527ab1056a/doc/lua_api.txt#L987 17:13 paramat and it probably shouldn't hmm 17:14 entuland there must be a bug in my code 17:14 entuland cause I should only apply the param2 if the node definition uses "facedir" 17:15 entuland I've pushed my latest commits on the repo, for the moment this new feature is beta enough :P 17:15 entuland after all it's still a WIP :P 17:17 sur3 entuland, ah ok thx, if the delayer dep is wrong i'll just try to remove it and open an issue for that if it works ^^ 17:17 entuland yw sur3 17:18 paramat MTG glass has 'paramtype2 = "glasslikeliquidlevel",' set, maybe it shouldn't but too late now =/ 17:19 entuland yep, in theory I should not be applying any param2 with the voxel manipulator there: https://github.com/entuland/wesh/blob/master/init.lua#L1567 17:19 entuland or, better, I am not _altering_ it 17:20 entuland I am though grabbing all of the values with get_param2_data() and setting it back with set_param2_data() or something (don't recall the actual voxel manip methods) 17:21 entuland ah, my bad: https://github.com/entuland/wesh/blob/master/init.lua#L1243 17:21 entuland I should be checking cell[2] before applying the transform 17:23 entuland yep, that fixed it, thanks paramat 17:24 paramat i'm just concerned about framed glass doing that when rotated when it may not be wanted 17:25 paramat but we'd break player's builds .. 17:25 entuland just tried the screwdriver on a glass, no effect 17:25 paramat yes that checks for facedir 17:25 entuland are there other ways it could get rotated? 17:26 entuland my mod doesn't that anymore (just pushed the fix) 17:26 paramat schematics, LVM 17:26 entuland ah 17:26 entuland gotta check if the door gets rotated as well after this fix, probably won't 17:28 entuland uhm... the obsidian door gets rotated even though I'm not touching any non-facedir node... 17:30 entuland oh well, it's a problem only if the door turns out not to be upright when rebuilt, not a big deal for now cause the canvases will be used in upright position most of the times 17:32 entuland uh 17:32 entuland extremely weird 17:32 entuland I am not doing anything to handle that, but the doors get rebuilt recalling their open / closed state 17:33 entuland if that information is stored in param2 somehow it's surviving my matrix transforms ahahahah 19:48 MinetestBot 02[git] 04rubenwardy -> 03minetest/minetest: Update to new ContentDB API 13ca502fc https://git.io/ffCzv (152018-06-18T19:47:38Z) 19:49 LMD Hello, I got a problem concerning Mods. 19:49 LMD Anybody online ? 19:50 riff-IRC I am 19:50 Krock nobody is 19:50 riff-IRC but not a mod 19:50 LMD Krock, u are core dev ? 19:50 Krock would that matter? 19:50 riff-IRC Shara is, but IDK if she's AFK 19:50 LMD yes 19:50 LMD i make a formspec 19:50 LMD and show it 19:51 Krock every modder can help you with modding issues lol 19:51 Krock so what's the issue with the formspec 19:51 LMD now i have receive fields function - works just fine 19:51 LMD but i want it inevitable 19:51 LMD so u cant quit usin ESC 19:51 Krock impossible 19:51 Krock the client will always find a way 19:51 LMD ??? 19:52 entuland eheheh, you're a modal fan, LMD? 19:52 Krock if you want to be really annoying, then use minetest.after to redursively open the formspec 19:52 Krock *recursively 19:52 entuland why do you want it NOT to be dismissed? 19:52 Krock if it's dismissed -> kick from the server if it was a rules formspec 19:52 LMD because its an "agree to rules" fs 19:52 entuland ah 19:52 Krock ninja'd 19:52 entuland well then kick them 19:52 LMD no 19:53 LMD that isnt best solution 19:53 entuland then show them a last warning 19:53 entuland then kick them 19:53 rubenwardy !mod agree rules 19:53 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Agree rules or kick V4 [agreerules] by UjEdwin - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=12441 19:53 LMD I agree 19:53 rubenwardy !mod [rules] 19:53 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Could not find anything. 19:53 Krock rubenwardy, they don't want them to be kicked 19:53 LMD !mod [rules] what does that mean ? 19:53 MinetestBot LMD: Could not find anything. 19:53 rubenwardy it's a filter by basename 19:54 rubenwardy eg: 19:54 Krock that's a command to search mods 19:54 rubenwardy !mod [awards] 19:54 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Achievements [awards] Rewritten, Sorting by rubenwardy - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=4870 19:54 LMD okay 19:54 Krock correction: a filter by filtered topic title 19:54 Krock !mod Sorting 19:54 MinetestBot Krock: Achievements [awards] Rewritten, Sorting by rubenwardy - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=4870 19:54 LMD BTW, i also put effort in select skills formspec, got really nice, BUT HAS TO be inevitable, isnt there a way ? Globalsteps ? 19:55 Krock minetest.after(5, reshow_formspec) 19:55 Krock whereas reshow_formspec is a function which calls inside itself that line above again 19:55 LMD okay... 19:55 Krock until there's a mod-local variable set to "true" to abort the loop 19:55 LMD Then, paramat, I wrote you a PM, neednt response anymore :) 19:56 LMD so you mean i will just reshow formspec REGULARLY 19:57 LMD but isnt globalstep better then ? I mean yours is goin to overflow fast, isnt it ? 19:57 Krock yes. until the loop is aborted 19:57 Krock globalstep is overkill. it'll resend too many packets 19:57 Krock after all the client could simply ignore all formspecs 19:57 Krock i.e. an edited client could filter them out 19:58 paramat ok :) 19:58 LMD yeah, but why the hell should someone edit his client to gain a DISADVATAGE - lol 19:58 Krock to not have to accept the rules 19:58 Krock and still do vandalism on the server 19:59 LMD yeah, but you can just accept with crossed fingers behind ur back 19:59 Krock unless you _don't_ grant interact by default 19:59 LMD its same 19:59 riff-IRC GTG BBL 20:00 LMD i mean, somebody who hacks his client for avoiding accept rules formspec instead of just clicking i accept and lying is really mentally ill ? 20:00 LMD bye riff 20:00 LMD what means BBL ? 20:00 Krock BYE RIFF-irc 20:00 Krock be back later. get a online dictionary. 20:01 LMD if you had one,you knew its not "a online" but an online dic 20:01 LMD :P 20:02 LMD Im doin mistake other way round : I always write an(sounds better) : an car... 20:02 Krock an university 20:02 Krock wrong too btw ^ 20:02 LMD an ufo also wrong cuz u doesnt sound like u but like ju 20:03 Krock so is the formspec stuff solved? 20:03 lumberJ Any one here own "Icy Network" server? 20:04 lumberJ anyone* 20:04 Krock IcyDiamond ^ 20:04 LMD yes. Thanks for help. bye. 20:04 IcyDiamond I do 20:04 Krock bai 20:04 Krock !next 20:04 MinetestBot Another satisfied customer. Next! 20:04 LMD is there /leave command ? 20:04 Krock /quit 20:04 lumberJ Maybe its intentional but the privs you have granted by default are likely to lead to chaos, IcyDiamond 20:04 LMD ok 20:05 IcyDiamond lumberJ: which one in particular 20:05 lumberJ privs, basic privs, areas 20:05 Krock creative and fly 20:05 Krock must be a mistake 20:05 IcyDiamond Hm 20:05 lumberJ i haven't joined, but a friend of mine just joined 20:05 lumberJ someone is on now that has given themselves worldedit apparently 20:06 IcyDiamond Well I can remove those 20:06 lumberJ yeah, just wanted to let you know before it gets out of hand 20:07 Krock don't forget to remove the privs from auth.txt or the sban database 20:07 Lupercus lumberJ who is it 20:07 IcyDiamond Yeah 20:07 Lupercus oh hi IcyDiamond 20:07 lumberJ ^ 20:07 IcyDiamond Hi 20:08 Lupercus im glad lumberJ found you 20:09 Lupercus its a nice server you got good selection of mods 20:12 IcyDiamond xD 20:12 lumberJ good default privs as well 20:13 Lupercus lol 20:13 Lupercus not really 20:13 IcyDiamond fixed privs 20:13 IcyDiamond XD 20:14 lumberJ not sure how long its been like that, but you might need a script to fix players privs 20:14 IcyDiamond i fixed em manually 20:14 IcyDiamond :P 20:14 lumberJ not too many players then 20:14 lumberJ thats good 20:14 Lupercus did you get the server to come back up? 20:15 Lupercus only one house on it so far 20:15 Lupercus ultras house 20:15 IcyDiamond xD 20:15 IcyDiamond yeah its rather ded most of the time 20:15 IcyDiamond :P 20:16 Lupercus interact home shout 20:16 Lupercus nice 20:16 IcyDiamond xD 20:17 Lupercus its a nice looking server lumberJ you should have a look around 20:18 lumberJ ill check it out a bit later 20:18 lumberJ got my hands full atm 20:19 LMD Hello ! Me again ! Any moderators here ? 20:19 IcyDiamond moderators of what 20:19 LMD MT Forum 20:19 LMD I would like to know something 20:21 LMD Aww - shouldve used the chance when rubenwardy was here 3 mins ago or so... 20:21 LMD Can I leave em a message ? 20:21 LMD @rubenwardy Why have I been banned ? 20:21 LMD Really serious. 20:22 LMD I recently got 2 week ban on MT Forum, np, but got no clue why. I know we got in some trouble, but would like to know the reason for that specific ban. 20:24 LMD Anybody ? 20:24 LMD why is there whois ? 20:24 LMD Anybody ? 20:24 lumberJ LMD standard IRC procedure is to ask your question and wait 20:24 LMD OK 20:24 lumberJ it may take several minutes or hours for the person to respond if they are not at their computer 20:25 LMD its not a specific person, but entire MT mod community. I guess smbdy will come soon. 20:25 LMD @lumberJ : Is there something like an IRC messaging application for Ubuntu ? Thunderbird ? 20:26 LMD So that I am notified if anything happens here. 20:26 lumberJ you mean a irc client? 20:26 LMD ummm - like that 20:26 serp there are lots of client options for ubuntu 20:26 lumberJ you could use hexchat. that would probably be easiest 20:26 LMD currently im writing in chrome 20:26 LMD but does hexchat have nice notifications ? 20:26 lumberJ if you set the preferences to notify you, yes 20:27 lumberJ not sure what you mean by 'nice' 20:27 LMD nice ! 20:27 LMD with nice i mean -not too annoying -i notice em 20:27 lumberJ they are more or less configurable to be the way you want them 20:28 LMD IMO its a shame every program comes as EXE for Win but debs are rare :/ 20:28 LMD Luckily thats other with MT :] 20:28 LMD @"builders" : Keep DEBs up ! 20:29 lumberJ umm, hexchat can be installed via apt i'm pretty sure 20:30 LMD true 20:30 lumberJ please don't install programs like windows 20:30 LMD what ? 20:30 LMD https://hexchat.github.io/downloads.html does NOT show deb - WHY ? 20:30 lumberJ downloading random .debs instead of using repos 20:31 LMD "random" - from official download page is NOT random 20:31 lumberJ because no one would bother installing via deb since it is in the default repo of basically every distro probably 20:31 LMD also, there are MANY applications, especially older versions, which u can ONLY install using debs, as Ubuntu removed em from their repo 20:32 lumberJ i would ask why you would want an out of date version, but instead i will go take a nap 20:34 LMD because sometimes new is broken or 4 instance u need older python interpreter ? 20:34 LMD Bye 21:45 Astrobe Thunderbird has a builtin IRC client; only in the french locale it's not called "IRC" but "chat". 21:45 Astrobe I guess they did the same in other locales. 21:46 Astrobe IRC is an old thing to be ashamed of, after all. 21:47 Astrobe Meh. Good night. 23:42 sur3 what is the priv for logging into an already full server? 23:44 rubenwardy kick or ban 23:44 rubenwardy by default those will let you log in 23:44 rubenwardy you can add more privs/conditions using minetest.register_on_userlimit_skip 23:45 sur3 Ok thanks 23:47 sur3 rubenwardy, hum I only find minetest.register_on_userlimit_skip did you mean that? 23:48 sur3 oh thats what you wrote XD 23:48 rubenwardy that's exactly what I put 23:48 sur3 sry so late xD 23:48 sur3 noo wait 23:48 sur3 I meant I only find: minetest.register_can_bypass_userlimit 23:49 rubenwardy sure 23:49 sur3 is that what you meant?