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lsab |
Hello. I have a slow lan network, I was thinking if there is any way to reduce world size then it'd load easily |
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lsab |
is there? |
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illwieckz |
hello lsab |
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illwieckz |
people there live on different timezones, perhaps the answer will come later (I don't know the answer to that question myself) ;-) |
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lsab |
ok, thank you |
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huesal |
world only grows as you explore it |
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HearingVo |
Can anyone provide me with some BitCoin? |
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sur3 |
I had a admin sneaking privs of an owner by using /setpassword I thinkk this is a security issue and /setpassword should only work on users that have less or equal important privs, so that you can't change the password of someone with "server, set, privs, delprotect, protection_bypass" if you have at least the same privs. |
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sur3 |
*can only .. if |
| 12:48 |
Shara |
You probably should not give the password priv to anyone who doesn't have the highest level of privs anyway... |
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riff-IRC |
Shara: very true |
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Shara |
And quite honestly, that admin of yours should get the boot. Anyone who abuses privs doesn't deserve them. |
| 12:55 |
sur3 |
yes I griefed his server in revenche, took me 2h to fix my server and after he didnt get his server fixed after 2d I helped him fix it, have a peace treaty with him now again but he doesnt get important privs on my server anymore although he gave me all on his again ^^ |
| 12:57 |
Shara |
Well, that shows your maturity level... |
| 12:57 |
sur3 |
but I still think it should be possible to grant the setpassword right for mod to change the password of normal users when they forgot them without giving away all other provs basically as well. |
| 12:58 |
sur3 |
*privs |
| 13:01 |
sur3 |
Shara, how do you mean that? I think it is best to beat people with their own weapons so they see what they did wrong, I think that is not immature..?! Or you're a buddhist? :D |
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Shara |
It just seems wonderfully childish to me. That time is much better spent learning how to manage your own server better. |
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rubenwardy |
definitely very childish |
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sur3 |
meh |
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sur3 |
it would be great if the travelnet would support unifieddyes, then one could turn it into an old red phonebooth or a blue tardis :D |
| 13:14 |
sur3 |
where can I find the setpassword command, then I can change it myself so it cant change the password of people with server privs.. |
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sur3 |
or is it possible to just overwrite that command in a mod? |
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sur3 |
Hm it's a bit annoying that I cant enable mesecons_gates without enabling mesecons_delayer as well, because with mesecons_delayer it is pretty easy to build an endless chian reaction to simulate a blinky_plant.. :-/ |
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sur3 |
*chain |
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entuland |
sur3, not sure I get your statement. Seems like you _must_ enable mesecons_delayer but it also seems you _want_ to enable it |
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entuland |
as such I don't see the annoying part |
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sur3 |
entuland, nope I dont want the delayer or blinky plants because continues frequencies take more server recources, I dont understand why the delayer is needed to have gates |
| 15:16 |
entuland |
ah |
| 15:16 |
entuland |
now I see what you mean |
| 15:17 |
entuland |
you could check if the gates file make any reference to the delayer |
| 15:17 |
entuland |
if not, I guess you could remove that dependency |
| 15:18 |
entuland |
or point that out to the maintainer |
| 15:18 |
entuland |
and/or |
| 15:21 |
entuland |
searching for "delay" in the gates init.lua finds nothing, and there isn't much in the delayer mod |
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entuland |
I guess the dependency is wrong |
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julian_ |
is it in minetest possible to make an horizontal flat entity? like a horizontal upright_sprite? |
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julian_ |
maybe using visual_size and drawtype cube? |
| 15:36 |
julian_ |
and why isn't there such a sprite? |
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entuland |
julian_, you need it to be an entity, or a simple node would be fine? |
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Krock |
use the upright_sprite type...? |
| 15:37 |
Krock |
oh right, you'd need to rotate it |
| 15:38 |
Krock |
but for these axis it's yet only possible by using attachments. so two entities basically :( |
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julian_ |
entuland i need it to be a entity |
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entuland |
okay |
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julian_ |
and how could i rotate the upright_sprite to make it flat? |
| 15:40 |
julian_ |
i try it now with visual = cube and visualsize = {x=1, y=0} |
| 15:42 |
julian_ |
ha! seems to work :D |
| 15:43 |
entuland |
:) |
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julian_ |
do u know the painting mod? |
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julian_ |
i wanna make atm it possible to place images from that mod on floor/ceiling |
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julian_ |
and i finished it :) |
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entuland |
eheheh, I think I got most of it sorted: https://i.imgur.com/bCVS91Q.jpg |
| 16:29 |
entuland |
https://i.imgur.com/7lU0wgT.jpg |
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entuland |
:P |
| 16:30 |
entuland |
ahahah |
| 16:30 |
entuland |
you cannot rotate doors with the screwdrivew |
| 16:30 |
entuland |
driver |
| 16:30 |
entuland |
but when I rebuild them with my mod, the doors actually _get_ rotated |
| 16:30 |
entuland |
and attempting to open / close them the game crashes ahahah |
| 16:32 |
entuland |
also, obsidian glases do this funky thing when they get rebuilt using the voxel manipulator: https://i.imgur.com/lKkpJFs.png |
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entuland |
(the error there is the one from the crash when trying to open the door, unrelated to the obsidian glasses) |
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Astrobe |
!tell lsab Checkout https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=1825 |
| 16:51 |
MinetestBot |
Astrobe: I'll pass that on when lsab is around |
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entuland |
uh? didnt MinetestBot reply with some snarky line along the lines of "yeah yeah whatever"? |
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sfan5 |
that's random |
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entuland |
ah |
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entuland |
too bad |
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rubenwardy |
MinetestBot is rude |
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rubenwardy |
ShadowBot is stupid |
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ShadowBot |
rubenwardy: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). |
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entuland |
ehehehe |
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Krock |
confirmed |
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paramat |
LOL Shara is a buddhist |
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* Shara |
pokes paramat :D |
| 17:05 |
Shara |
Ehh, if that's what it takes to run a server well? :D |
| 17:05 |
Krock |
how's that funny? |
| 17:06 |
Shara |
Randomly saying someone must be a certain religion due to totally stupid reasons? |
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serp |
you must be jedi |
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paramat |
Krock i was sort of quoting something earlier in this channel :) |
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Krock |
oh |
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Shara |
Someone suggested I must be buddist because I think revenge griefing someone's server is childish :) |
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paramat |
entuland framed glass does that due to param2, see https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/e8b687d7cafd7ff77572238cf98954527ab1056a/doc/lua_api.txt#L987 |
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paramat |
and it probably shouldn't hmm |
| 17:14 |
entuland |
there must be a bug in my code |
| 17:14 |
entuland |
cause I should only apply the param2 if the node definition uses "facedir" |
| 17:15 |
entuland |
I've pushed my latest commits on the repo, for the moment this new feature is beta enough :P |
| 17:15 |
entuland |
after all it's still a WIP :P |
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sur3 |
entuland, ah ok thx, if the delayer dep is wrong i'll just try to remove it and open an issue for that if it works ^^ |
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entuland |
yw sur3 |
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paramat |
MTG glass has 'paramtype2 = "glasslikeliquidlevel",' set, maybe it shouldn't but too late now =/ |
| 17:19 |
entuland |
yep, in theory I should not be applying any param2 with the voxel manipulator there: https://github.com/entuland/wesh/blob/master/init.lua#L1567 |
| 17:19 |
entuland |
or, better, I am not _altering_ it |
| 17:20 |
entuland |
I am though grabbing all of the values with get_param2_data() and setting it back with set_param2_data() or something (don't recall the actual voxel manip methods) |
| 17:21 |
entuland |
ah, my bad: https://github.com/entuland/wesh/blob/master/init.lua#L1243 |
| 17:21 |
entuland |
I should be checking cell[2] before applying the transform |
| 17:23 |
entuland |
yep, that fixed it, thanks paramat |
| 17:24 |
paramat |
i'm just concerned about framed glass doing that when rotated when it may not be wanted |
| 17:25 |
paramat |
but we'd break player's builds .. |
| 17:25 |
entuland |
just tried the screwdriver on a glass, no effect |
| 17:25 |
paramat |
yes that checks for facedir |
| 17:25 |
entuland |
are there other ways it could get rotated? |
| 17:26 |
entuland |
my mod doesn't that anymore (just pushed the fix) |
| 17:26 |
paramat |
schematics, LVM |
| 17:26 |
entuland |
ah |
| 17:26 |
entuland |
gotta check if the door gets rotated as well after this fix, probably won't |
| 17:28 |
entuland |
uhm... the obsidian door gets rotated even though I'm not touching any non-facedir node... |
| 17:30 |
entuland |
oh well, it's a problem only if the door turns out not to be upright when rebuilt, not a big deal for now cause the canvases will be used in upright position most of the times |
| 17:32 |
entuland |
uh |
| 17:32 |
entuland |
extremely weird |
| 17:32 |
entuland |
I am not doing anything to handle that, but the doors get rebuilt recalling their open / closed state |
| 17:33 |
entuland |
if that information is stored in param2 somehow it's surviving my matrix transforms ahahahah |
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MinetestBot |
[git] rubenwardy -> minetest/minetest: Update to new ContentDB API ca502fc https://git.io/ffCzv (2018-06-18T19:47:38Z) |
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LMD |
Hello, I got a problem concerning Mods. |
| 19:49 |
LMD |
Anybody online ? |
| 19:50 |
riff-IRC |
I am |
| 19:50 |
Krock |
nobody is |
| 19:50 |
riff-IRC |
but not a mod |
| 19:50 |
LMD |
Krock, u are core dev ? |
| 19:50 |
Krock |
would that matter? |
| 19:50 |
riff-IRC |
Shara is, but IDK if she's AFK |
| 19:50 |
LMD |
yes |
| 19:50 |
LMD |
i make a formspec |
| 19:50 |
LMD |
and show it |
| 19:51 |
Krock |
every modder can help you with modding issues lol |
| 19:51 |
Krock |
so what's the issue with the formspec |
| 19:51 |
LMD |
now i have receive fields function - works just fine |
| 19:51 |
LMD |
but i want it inevitable |
| 19:51 |
LMD |
so u cant quit usin ESC |
| 19:51 |
Krock |
impossible |
| 19:51 |
Krock |
the client will always find a way |
| 19:51 |
LMD |
??? |
| 19:52 |
entuland |
eheheh, you're a modal fan, LMD? |
| 19:52 |
Krock |
if you want to be really annoying, then use minetest.after to redursively open the formspec |
| 19:52 |
Krock |
*recursively |
| 19:52 |
entuland |
why do you want it NOT to be dismissed? |
| 19:52 |
Krock |
if it's dismissed -> kick from the server if it was a rules formspec |
| 19:52 |
LMD |
because its an "agree to rules" fs |
| 19:52 |
entuland |
ah |
| 19:52 |
Krock |
ninja'd |
| 19:52 |
entuland |
well then kick them |
| 19:52 |
LMD |
no |
| 19:53 |
LMD |
that isnt best solution |
| 19:53 |
entuland |
then show them a last warning |
| 19:53 |
entuland |
then kick them |
| 19:53 |
rubenwardy |
!mod agree rules |
| 19:53 |
MinetestBot |
rubenwardy: Agree rules or kick V4 [agreerules] by UjEdwin - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=12441 |
| 19:53 |
LMD |
I agree |
| 19:53 |
rubenwardy |
!mod [rules] |
| 19:53 |
MinetestBot |
rubenwardy: Could not find anything. |
| 19:53 |
Krock |
rubenwardy, they don't want them to be kicked |
| 19:53 |
LMD |
!mod [rules] what does that mean ? |
| 19:53 |
MinetestBot |
LMD: Could not find anything. |
| 19:53 |
rubenwardy |
it's a filter by basename |
| 19:54 |
rubenwardy |
eg: |
| 19:54 |
Krock |
that's a command to search mods |
| 19:54 |
rubenwardy |
!mod [awards] |
| 19:54 |
MinetestBot |
rubenwardy: Achievements [awards] Rewritten, Sorting by rubenwardy - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=4870 |
| 19:54 |
LMD |
okay |
| 19:54 |
Krock |
correction: a filter by filtered topic title |
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| 19:54 |
Krock |
!mod Sorting |
| 19:54 |
MinetestBot |
Krock: Achievements [awards] Rewritten, Sorting by rubenwardy - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=4870 |
| 19:54 |
LMD |
BTW, i also put effort in select skills formspec, got really nice, BUT HAS TO be inevitable, isnt there a way ? Globalsteps ? |
| 19:55 |
Krock |
minetest.after(5, reshow_formspec) |
| 19:55 |
Krock |
whereas reshow_formspec is a function which calls inside itself that line above again |
| 19:55 |
LMD |
okay... |
| 19:55 |
Krock |
until there's a mod-local variable set to "true" to abort the loop |
| 19:55 |
LMD |
Then, paramat, I wrote you a PM, neednt response anymore :) |
| 19:56 |
LMD |
so you mean i will just reshow formspec REGULARLY |
| 19:57 |
LMD |
but isnt globalstep better then ? I mean yours is goin to overflow fast, isnt it ? |
| 19:57 |
Krock |
yes. until the loop is aborted |
| 19:57 |
Krock |
globalstep is overkill. it'll resend too many packets |
| 19:57 |
Krock |
after all the client could simply ignore all formspecs |
| 19:57 |
Krock |
i.e. an edited client could filter them out |
| 19:58 |
paramat |
ok :) |
| 19:58 |
LMD |
yeah, but why the hell should someone edit his client to gain a DISADVATAGE - lol |
| 19:58 |
Krock |
to not have to accept the rules |
| 19:58 |
Krock |
and still do vandalism on the server |
| 19:59 |
LMD |
yeah, but you can just accept with crossed fingers behind ur back |
| 19:59 |
Krock |
unless you _don't_ grant interact by default |
| 19:59 |
LMD |
its same |
| 19:59 |
riff-IRC |
GTG BBL |
| 20:00 |
LMD |
i mean, somebody who hacks his client for avoiding accept rules formspec instead of just clicking i accept and lying is really mentally ill ? |
| 20:00 |
LMD |
bye riff |
| 20:00 |
LMD |
what means BBL ? |
| 20:00 |
Krock |
BYE RIFF-irc |
| 20:00 |
Krock |
be back later. get a online dictionary. |
| 20:01 |
LMD |
if you had one,you knew its not "a online" but an online dic |
| 20:01 |
LMD |
:P |
| 20:02 |
LMD |
Im doin mistake other way round : I always write an(sounds better) : an car... |
| 20:02 |
Krock |
an university |
| 20:02 |
Krock |
wrong too btw ^ |
| 20:02 |
LMD |
an ufo also wrong cuz u doesnt sound like u but like ju |
| 20:03 |
Krock |
so is the formspec stuff solved? |
| 20:03 |
lumberJ |
Any one here own "Icy Network" server? |
| 20:04 |
lumberJ |
anyone* |
| 20:04 |
Krock |
IcyDiamond ^ |
| 20:04 |
LMD |
yes. Thanks for help. bye. |
| 20:04 |
IcyDiamond |
I do |
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Krock |
bai |
| 20:04 |
Krock |
!next |
| 20:04 |
MinetestBot |
Another satisfied customer. Next! |
| 20:04 |
LMD |
is there /leave command ? |
| 20:04 |
Krock |
/quit |
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lumberJ |
Maybe its intentional but the privs you have granted by default are likely to lead to chaos, IcyDiamond |
| 20:04 |
LMD |
ok |
| 20:05 |
IcyDiamond |
lumberJ: which one in particular |
| 20:05 |
lumberJ |
privs, basic privs, areas |
| 20:05 |
Krock |
creative and fly |
| 20:05 |
Krock |
must be a mistake |
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IcyDiamond |
Hm |
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lumberJ |
i haven't joined, but a friend of mine just joined |
| 20:05 |
lumberJ |
someone is on now that has given themselves worldedit apparently |
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IcyDiamond |
Well I can remove those |
| 20:06 |
lumberJ |
yeah, just wanted to let you know before it gets out of hand |
| 20:07 |
Krock |
don't forget to remove the privs from auth.txt or the sban database |
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Lupercus |
lumberJ who is it |
| 20:07 |
IcyDiamond |
Yeah |
| 20:07 |
Lupercus |
oh hi IcyDiamond |
| 20:07 |
lumberJ |
^ |
| 20:07 |
IcyDiamond |
Hi |
| 20:08 |
Lupercus |
im glad lumberJ found you |
| 20:09 |
Lupercus |
its a nice server you got good selection of mods |
| 20:12 |
IcyDiamond |
xD |
| 20:12 |
lumberJ |
good default privs as well |
| 20:13 |
Lupercus |
lol |
| 20:13 |
Lupercus |
not really |
| 20:13 |
IcyDiamond |
fixed privs |
| 20:13 |
IcyDiamond |
XD |
| 20:14 |
lumberJ |
not sure how long its been like that, but you might need a script to fix players privs |
| 20:14 |
IcyDiamond |
i fixed em manually |
| 20:14 |
IcyDiamond |
:P |
| 20:14 |
lumberJ |
not too many players then |
| 20:14 |
lumberJ |
thats good |
| 20:14 |
Lupercus |
did you get the server to come back up? |
| 20:15 |
Lupercus |
only one house on it so far |
| 20:15 |
Lupercus |
ultras house |
| 20:15 |
IcyDiamond |
xD |
| 20:15 |
IcyDiamond |
yeah its rather ded most of the time |
| 20:15 |
IcyDiamond |
:P |
| 20:16 |
Lupercus |
interact home shout |
| 20:16 |
Lupercus |
nice |
| 20:16 |
IcyDiamond |
xD |
| 20:17 |
Lupercus |
its a nice looking server lumberJ you should have a look around |
| 20:18 |
lumberJ |
ill check it out a bit later |
| 20:18 |
lumberJ |
got my hands full atm |
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LMD |
Hello ! Me again ! Any moderators here ? |
| 20:19 |
IcyDiamond |
moderators of what |
| 20:19 |
LMD |
MT Forum |
| 20:19 |
LMD |
I would like to know something |
| 20:21 |
LMD |
Aww - shouldve used the chance when rubenwardy was here 3 mins ago or so... |
| 20:21 |
LMD |
Can I leave em a message ? |
| 20:21 |
LMD |
@rubenwardy Why have I been banned ? |
| 20:21 |
LMD |
Really serious. |
| 20:22 |
LMD |
I recently got 2 week ban on MT Forum, np, but got no clue why. I know we got in some trouble, but would like to know the reason for that specific ban. |
| 20:24 |
LMD |
Anybody ? |
| 20:24 |
LMD |
why is there whois ? |
| 20:24 |
LMD |
Anybody ? |
| 20:24 |
lumberJ |
LMD standard IRC procedure is to ask your question and wait |
| 20:24 |
LMD |
OK |
| 20:24 |
lumberJ |
it may take several minutes or hours for the person to respond if they are not at their computer |
| 20:25 |
LMD |
its not a specific person, but entire MT mod community. I guess smbdy will come soon. |
| 20:25 |
LMD |
@lumberJ : Is there something like an IRC messaging application for Ubuntu ? Thunderbird ? |
| 20:26 |
LMD |
So that I am notified if anything happens here. |
| 20:26 |
lumberJ |
you mean a irc client? |
| 20:26 |
LMD |
ummm - like that |
| 20:26 |
serp |
there are lots of client options for ubuntu |
| 20:26 |
lumberJ |
you could use hexchat. that would probably be easiest |
| 20:26 |
LMD |
currently im writing in chrome |
| 20:26 |
LMD |
but does hexchat have nice notifications ? |
| 20:26 |
lumberJ |
if you set the preferences to notify you, yes |
| 20:27 |
lumberJ |
not sure what you mean by 'nice' |
| 20:27 |
LMD |
nice ! |
| 20:27 |
LMD |
with nice i mean -not too annoying -i notice em |
| 20:27 |
lumberJ |
they are more or less configurable to be the way you want them |
| 20:28 |
LMD |
IMO its a shame every program comes as EXE for Win but debs are rare :/ |
| 20:28 |
LMD |
Luckily thats other with MT :] |
| 20:28 |
LMD |
@"builders" : Keep DEBs up ! |
| 20:29 |
lumberJ |
umm, hexchat can be installed via apt i'm pretty sure |
| 20:30 |
LMD |
true |
| 20:30 |
lumberJ |
please don't install programs like windows |
| 20:30 |
LMD |
what ? |
| 20:30 |
LMD |
https://hexchat.github.io/downloads.html does NOT show deb - WHY ? |
| 20:30 |
lumberJ |
downloading random .debs instead of using repos |
| 20:31 |
LMD |
"random" - from official download page is NOT random |
| 20:31 |
lumberJ |
because no one would bother installing via deb since it is in the default repo of basically every distro probably |
| 20:31 |
LMD |
also, there are MANY applications, especially older versions, which u can ONLY install using debs, as Ubuntu removed em from their repo |
| 20:32 |
lumberJ |
i would ask why you would want an out of date version, but instead i will go take a nap |
| 20:34 |
LMD |
because sometimes new is broken or 4 instance u need older python interpreter ? |
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LMD |
Bye |
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Astrobe |
Thunderbird has a builtin IRC client; only in the french locale it's not called "IRC" but "chat". |
| 21:45 |
Astrobe |
I guess they did the same in other locales. |
| 21:46 |
Astrobe |
IRC is an old thing to be ashamed of, after all. |
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Astrobe |
Meh. Good night. |
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sur3 |
what is the priv for logging into an already full server? |
| 23:44 |
rubenwardy |
kick or ban |
| 23:44 |
rubenwardy |
by default those will let you log in |
| 23:44 |
rubenwardy |
you can add more privs/conditions using minetest.register_on_userlimit_skip |
| 23:45 |
sur3 |
Ok thanks |
| 23:47 |
sur3 |
rubenwardy, hum I only find minetest.register_on_userlimit_skip did you mean that? |
| 23:48 |
sur3 |
oh thats what you wrote XD |
| 23:48 |
rubenwardy |
that's exactly what I put |
| 23:48 |
sur3 |
sry so late xD |
| 23:48 |
sur3 |
noo wait |
| 23:48 |
sur3 |
I meant I only find: minetest.register_can_bypass_userlimit |
| 23:49 |
rubenwardy |
sure |
| 23:49 |
sur3 |
is that what you meant? |
