Time  Nick            Message
00:50 Ruslan1         Out`Of`Control :)
01:26 paramat         Teckla "when creating pos tables (x,y,z) for LVM, you have to specify whole numbers" correct, for the pos used in 'area:index()', that has tripped me up a few times. i should add that to docs
01:30 paramat         hmmmmm if you see this, do come hang out here sometimes, it's good to have you around =)
01:40 ANAND           Hello! I'd like to know how listring elements work. I have multiple lists with me, but when I use a listring[location;name] for both the lists, I still can't get shift-click to work.
01:41 ANAND           Clarification: I've got 3 list[] in the same formspec, and I'd like to link two of them using listring(s).
01:46 paramat         hi, don't know :)
01:47 paramat         actually i'll look at the index API and see if we can floor the position
02:17 paramat         ugh why is voxelarea stuff in lua, shouldn't it be in cpp for performance?
02:18 paramat         voxelarea:index() is heavily used in LVM
02:19 paramat         but maybe i misunderstand
02:22 paramat         maybe voxelarea:index() can't be an API because it returns a number used in mod code
03:16 MinetestBot     02[git] 04paramat -> 03minetest/minetest_game: Spawn mod: Also reposition players on respawn 13abe1b9f https://git.io/vhE2e (152018-06-07T03:14:56Z)
11:37 Genshin         Hey guys,  is there a way where we can support transparency for object entities?
11:39 Genshin         Would be nice if minetest can support transparent textures for entity models.
11:41 Krock           #7148
11:41 Krock           https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/7148
11:42 Krock           Genshin, the previous PR also mentions these as preview images: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=18026#p305791
11:44 Genshin         Thanks Krock, this should come in handy for certain experiments.  :)
11:51 Krock           !next
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13:24 entuland        trying to use rubenwardy's smartfs I need to either close or keep open a form, tried setting the button to close and issuing form:show() again but that didn't work
13:25 entuland        tried setting state.obsolete = true and that didn't work either
13:25 rubenwardy      I don't really maintain it anymore
13:25 entuland        that's okay, just sharing the situation in case anyone knows
13:26 entuland        resolved to avoid any element closing the form, instead calling minetest.show_formspec(playername, "", "") if I need to close it
13:27 entuland        that works and should be fine, unless anyone knows of a reason why I shouldn't invoke show_formspec with empty values
13:27 rubenwardy      Probably better to use close_formspec
13:27 entuland        by the way, rubenwardy, thanks a lot for that tool, it's extremely useful :)
13:28 rubenwardy      Smartfs doesn't support this as it didn't exist
13:28 entuland        ah, close_formspec, let me check
13:29 entuland        okay, I'll invoke that with the name I use to create the smarfs form, should be the formspec name passed to show_formspec internally
13:29 entuland        thanks
13:31 JustMeErazem1   Hi, I'm setting up a server (Ubuntu Server 16.04 - No GUI) and I'm just making sure I'm doing this correctly: I've installed minetest-server. When I start it as the minetest user, it creates the .minetest folder and inside there is only a /worlds/world folder, no bin or game folders. Is that ok?
13:31 JustMeErazem1   The server runs fine, I'm just asking
13:31 JustMeErazem1   Also Is it correct if I add the mods folder inside .minetest (the same folder as worlds
13:31 JustMeErazem1   )*
13:32 Krock           into ~./minetest/mods/   yes.
13:33 Krock           it should also be mentioned here: https://wiki.minetest.net/Installing_mods
13:33 JustMeErazem1   yes, it was, I was just a little confused
13:33 JustMeErazem1   one more thing
13:33 ANAND           JustMeErazem1: the bin and other directories which the user needn't bother about are located in /usr/share/minetest
13:34 JustMeErazem1   Another thing, I installed the mobs plugin
13:34 JustMeErazem1   and there were addons or something
13:34 JustMeErazem1   the mobs_animals for example
13:34 Krock           !mod mobs_animals
13:34 MinetestBot     Krock: Could not find anything.
13:34 ANAND           !mod mobs_animal
13:34 MinetestBot     ANAND: Could not find anything.
13:34 JustMeErazem1   tThe original mod is mobs_redo
13:34 ANAND           mobs_redo is just the API
13:35 ANAND           which is used to register custom mobs
13:35 JustMeErazem1   what are mobs_animals or mobs_monsters
13:35 JustMeErazem1   so do I have to install the original mobs mod?
13:35 ANAND           mobs_animals and mobs_monsters are the mods that use the mobs_redo API to register new mods
13:35 JustMeErazem1   oh
13:36 JustMeErazem1   ok, so if I have mobs (mobs redo) and mobs_animal in the mods folder they will work?
13:36 ANAND           You need to install mobs_redo (the API), and other mobs_redo-compatible mods
13:36 ANAND           Yes they should
13:36 Krock           no. you'll have to enable them in your world first
13:36 JustMeErazem1   ok thank you
13:36 JustMeErazem1   yes, I did that
13:36 Krock           and then check whether there are any errors (missing dependencies, for example)
13:37 JustMeErazem1   I'll do that
13:37 ANAND           Thankfully, mobs_redo does not have any hard dependencies
13:37 JustMeErazem1   where do I enter commands in the console
13:37 JustMeErazem1   since I'm on linux and dont have a gui
13:38 JustMeErazem1   minetestserver --info maybe?
13:38 Krock           what kind of commands?  minetestserver --help will show you all options
13:39 JustMeErazem1   ok ,so I enter commands directly into the terminal?
13:39 JustMeErazem1   liek mineze
13:39 JustMeErazem1   sorry
13:39 JustMeErazem1   like minetest --info
13:39 Krock           yes, why not?
13:39 JustMeErazem1   i didn't think about that
13:39 JustMeErazem1   thank you very much
13:39 Krock           lol okay. no problem
13:39 Krock           !next
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14:20 JustMeErazem    Hi, sorry for bothering you again. Every time I try to run the server i get this error: https://pastebin.com/mkXyPfXw
14:20 JustMeErazem    This happened with multiple mods
14:21 Krock           update Minetest to 0.4.17
14:21 JustMeErazem    I downloaded minetest-server today
14:21 Krock           that looks like prior 0.4.16
14:21 JustMeErazem    And since this is just a server, do I need minetest as well
14:22 Krock           run minetestserver --version  to check what version you downloaded
14:22 JustMeErazem    yes, it's 0.4.12
14:22 Krock           oh gosh, even more outdated than the 16.04 repos
14:22 JustMeErazem    yes, it's 0.4.13
14:22 JustMeErazem    *
14:22 JustMeErazem    oh
14:22 JustMeErazem    damn
14:22 JustMeErazem    ok, I guess i'll update
14:22 JustMeErazem    thx
14:23 Krock           You may also stay in this channel instead of joining and leaving multiple times
18:43 Genshin         Been messing around with glowing particles lately https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/309071642276134912/454089047359488011/screenshot_20180605_200510.png
19:14 sovetskiy       Genshin, explosions under water?
19:18 Genshin         Not really under water sovietskiy, this may be outdated but its in a realm https://youtu.be/q_s-SZHuWck
19:22 Krock           when the sword covers 1/5th of the screen.. amazing textures though
19:28 Genshin         Thanks Krock, made them myself :)
19:48 Genshin         Speaking of the sword covering half of the screen Krock,  I blame the scale that i've set up lol. Had to use that method to make large weapons\items for wield3d.
19:52 Krock           Genshin, wield3d.location["mymod:mytool"] = { "Arm_Right", {x=0, y=5.5, z=3}, {x=-90, y=225, z=90}, {x=0.5, y=0.5} }
19:53 Krock           https://github.com/stujones11/wield3d/blob/master/init.lua#L82
19:53 Krock           all items/nodes can be adjusted that way to attach them either somewhere else or in a different scale
19:55 Krock           however, it doesn't seem to be possible to change the default location for items without such an override
19:55 Krock           like for different scaled player meshes
19:56 Emperor_Genshin Ah,  alright
19:58 Genshin         Hmm I wonder if the item shrinks or increases scale depending on the bone's scaling
19:59 Genshin         I'm aware it attaches to the specified bone
20:00 Genshin         It follows rotation based on the bone
20:02 Genshin         Now my question would be would it follow the bone's scaling as well?
20:03 Genshin         If so it may come in handy for keyframe animation tricks.
20:04 Krock           *shrug* I suggest try & error
20:05 Genshin         Will do,  I guess it wouldn't hurt to fiddle around with it.
21:05 entuland        I'm implementing privs for my mod, to check whether a player is allowed to place a node in the world, whatever the way they obtained it
21:05 entuland        I see there is a can_dig() callback I can use in register_node()
21:05 entuland        but I see no equivalent of can_place() or the alike
21:06 entuland        perhaps I should use on_construct
21:08 entuland        ah no, on_place
21:08 entuland        where I can either bail out or call item_place
21:08 entuland        that should be it
23:48 MinetestBot     02[git] 04paramat -> 03minetest/minetest: Lua_api.txt: Warn of errors possible with VoxelArea:index()/indexp() … 139ca37d8 https://git.io/vhzn1 (152018-06-07T23:46:10Z)