Time  Nick        Message
13:41 Krock       Depends on what kind of "fun" you need. There are lovely PvP servers where you can fight with other players
13:43 Krock       I think what you need are mobs ( http://krock-works.16mb.com/MTstuff/modSearch.php?q=mobs ) and perhaps a different looking map generator
14:02 ANAND       timokoesters[m], you've got to select from three branches of gameplay first - Survival, PvP and Creative.
14:02 ANAND       Survival and PvP generally go together, and since you mention "challenging", I think Creative mode is out of option...
14:06 LazyJ       "Technic"
14:07 LazyJ       It's dependency mods include Mesecons, Pipeworks, and some raw material mods.
14:07 Krock       !mod technic
14:07 MinetestBot Krock: Technic [technic] by RealBadAngel - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=2538
14:07 Krock       there are also other machine and factory mods
14:08 LazyJ       I'm not sure if Technic still comes as a modpack or if players have to download the individual mods.
14:10 LazyJ       There is a hoppers mod to feed into chests.
14:10 LazyJ       Advanced Trains for the model railroader.
14:10 Krock       it's still a modpack
14:12 LazyJ       Only the ones you set for yourself.
14:12 LazyJ       Ultimately, you can create a nuclear reactor with Technic.
14:13 LazyJ       But it takes a very long time to acquire all the components and such in survival-mode.
14:14 LazyJ       Create Rube Goldberg contraptions with Mesecons.
14:14 rubenwardy  would be cool to see a ftb style modpack
14:15 LazyJ       Mostly, trying to fashion the world in the way you want is a very long term goal... for some.
14:16 LazyJ       The active_block_range will limit the functionality of expansive contraptions or logistical aspects (trains and carts).
14:17 LazyJ       Mining, yes.
14:17 LazyJ       Farming... not sure.
14:17 LazyJ       Somethings aren't quite as refined as they are in Minecraft.
14:18 LazyJ       Recently Minetest was given the ability to have water uproot plants but I don't know if hoppers will accept them.
14:18 CWz         a LazyJ
14:18 LazyJ       A worm of chaotic nature. :0)-
14:19 LazyJ       For the new-comers "CWz" is short for "ChaoticWormz".
14:24 lumberJ     There are mods that allow the automation of farming, timokoesters
14:30 entuland    a nice setup I've found for inventory is using a ton of 2x2 drawers' blocks combined with normal pipes (not filtering ones)
14:30 entuland    for the forging, since pipes dont' play very well with furnaces, I'm filtering just once for fuel and ores, which put into chests, which use hoppers to communicate with the furnace
14:31 entuland    which in turn drops back to the main entry point of the inventory system (a regular chests that pulls out stacks and puts them into the piping system)
14:31 entuland    the trick of using a luacontroller block to drive the item injector doesn't work well
14:32 entuland    so I used a stackwise item injector driven by a blinky plant
14:32 entuland    the only problem with all of this setup is that some items don't play well with drawers
14:32 entuland    so I simply avoid putting them in the system
14:32 entuland    all of this ensures a good organization without the need for manually setting up filters along the pipes
17:11 Genshin     The minimap seems to be picking up entities with a nametag, wouldn't it be better if entities get a "type" value to be able to separate player entities with non-player entities?
17:12 Krock       there's already a is_player boolean for the GenericCAO - clientside, so that shouldn't be too much work
17:12 Krock       but then only players with a nametag should be shown there, otherwise it allows seeing players that should be hidden
17:15 Genshin     If that's the case then why Im still able to see players with no nametags?
17:15 Genshin     On the minimap I mean.
17:17 Genshin     It's pretty interesting that it works only for non-player entities.
17:18 Genshin     If I add a nametag to a entity it would show up on the minimap. If a player has their tag hidden the player still appears on the minimap.
17:24 Genshin     If it's a non-player entity, if it doesn't have a nametag it will not show up, but if it does it will appear on the minimap.
17:57 MinetestBot 02[git] 04paramat -> 03minetest/minetest_game: Kelp: Add 'paramtype = light' to avoid black plantlike extension 13b389f38 https://git.io/vphL4 (152018-05-19T17:57:01Z)
19:54 Krock       Emperor_Genshin, you're multiplying
20:52 Ruslan1     Anyone here
20:52 serp        no
20:52 Ruslan1     Why
20:53 Ruslan1     Tell me please
20:54 Ruslan1     Hello
20:54 rubenwardy  it's a joke response to a stupid question
20:54 Ruslan1     Ok
20:56 Krock       Yesn't
23:27 MinetestBot 02[git] 04rubenwardy -> 03minetest/minetest: Add screenshots to online content browser 13122eed7 https://git.io/vphWq (152018-05-19T23:25:17Z)
23:42 entuland    uhm...
23:42 entuland    ERROR[Main]: ServerError: AsyncErr: Lua: finishGenOOM error from mod 'darkage' in callback environment_OnGenerated(): not enough memory
23:42 entuland    2018-05-20 01:39:59: ERROR[Main]: Current Lua memory usage: 74 MB
23:42 entuland    playing LOTT
23:48 paramat     ugh darkage
23:49 paramat     it's common to get OOM from darkage if using LuaJIT, it's one of the more memory-intensive mods that trigger that
23:50 paramat     thre's something called GC64 that makes LuaJIT not cause OOM (windows only?) otherwise use normal Lua
23:50 paramat     *there's
23:51 paramat     technic mod and lua mapgens tend to cause OOM too
23:53 entuland    uhm... I simply downloaded minetest and fiddled with it... though I installed lua 5.1 separately, I just have no idea about how to use lua or that GC64, I'll google that stuff, thanks for the pointers :)
23:59 paramat     i think there's a compilation flag for LuaJIT