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00:17 swift110 hey akk
00:17 swift110 hey all i mean
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02:41 cimbakahn Hello!
02:41 cimbakahn Do you know where there's any owners, admins, or moderators for [MSC] Creative?
02:42 cimbakahn I was just on their server for the second time and I noticed the whole city was griefed with water.  I fixed 6 places, but there is still 4 more to go.
02:44 cimbakahn I get the impression that they just created a minetest server and left, because there was no one on the server the entire time I was on it.  It was the same thing the first time I was on it, no one there.
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03:09 sofar cimbakahn: check the forum, otherwise, probably nobody knows
03:11 cimbakahn sofar, Ok.
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03:41 cimbakahn I can't find any information on the internet at all on [MSC] Creative.  They are only listed in the server list.
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04:14 Ruslan1 cimbakahn: are you talking about msc
04:14 Ruslan1 Server
04:23 cimbakahn Yes.
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05:52 dustfinger suppose I have two laptopts. I sign into my server with my first laptop as dustfinger. I play, then sign out. Then I sign in to my server on my second laptop also as dustfinger,. It complains that the name is already taken. How can I sign in as the same user on a different computer?
05:53 dustfinger nm. Issue was that I capitalized the D the first time I created it. I created my user as Dustfinger, then signed in on another system as dustfinger.
05:56 dustfinger I am trying to run this on a raspberypi 3. It is running really badly. Any tips to get this running smoothly on a pi3?
05:59 sfan5 the client or the server?
06:00 sfan5 the client is known for bad perf on rpi's if you run it in OpenGL mode, there's no easy way aroun
06:00 sfan5 server should be fine even on an rpi
06:01 dustfinger It is the client. Shoot. So there is no way for me to get it to perform decently :-( You said if I run in OpenGL mode. So will it perform better if I do not run in opengl mode?
06:01 nalkri My Pi3 happily runs a server with a handful of users, I couldn't get it to work usably for the client though
06:02 dustfinger Yah, I have the server urnning on a different machine. I really wanted this to work as a client as it is my sons computer.
06:04 nalkri I think you're going to be doomed to crummy framerate at least
06:04 dustfinger Okay, that stinks! Thankks for letting me know.
06:07 dustfinger I see that there is a minetest client for android on the app store. Is that an official client?
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06:23 dustfinger How can I quite the minetest mobile app. Also, if I end up with a bunch of chat text on the screen then how can I clear the text so that it does not cover the game play area?
06:29 dustfinger nalkri: Looks like this guy had some luck with running it on the pi3: http://www.winkleink.com/2016/04/minetest-on-raspberry-pi-3-with.html
06:30 dustfinger Well, I have to get some sleep. a.f.k for a while now...
06:32 nalkri Oh cool, that's something I'm very happy to be wrong about
06:32 nalkri Makes turning a TV into the much more preferable Minetest portal easier for a start
06:54 ANAND Greetings, I'd like to know whether it's possible to center-align labels in a formspec?
06:54 ANAND Oops, wrong punctuation...
06:54 ANAND Any help would be much appreciated
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12:00 Enricoo Hi
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12:33 deltasquared something that just occured to me while examining the (limited) GPU power on an old asus eee pc... has anyone tried to get minetest (irrlicht in particular, I guess) to run using GLES 2.0 on a desktop linux system?
12:34 deltasquared seeing as mesa on linux provides openGLES as well. I'm curious to see if it would make any different (probably not, this thing is underpowered to begin with, but hey)
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15:43 greeter greetings twoelk
15:44 Ruslan1 Hello
15:46 greeter greetings Ruslan1
15:46 twoelk o/
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16:15 cimbakahn Is any of OldCoder's servers going to come back online?
16:16 deltasquared I doubt the guy has sufficient mental stability.
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16:21 cimbakahn I don't understand.  The guy had several servers running for a very long time, and because of this i counted on his servers being around for awhile.
16:22 cimbakahn I need to find stable servers that will be around for awhile.
16:23 greeter i know of quite a few that will be
16:25 cimbakahn Can you please list the top 6?
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16:30 LazyJ cimbakahn, it would help if you listed some of the mods you want. Not all servers have the same set.
16:30 LazyJ VanessaE's servers are a safe bet.
16:31 LazyJ Xanadu, if the server allows new accounts (sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't).
16:32 cimbakahn My favorite mods that i can't live without are mesecons, pipeworks, technic, awards, economy, harmless mobs.
16:32 LazyJ The TPS servers have been around for a long time.
16:33 LazyJ Craig's Server is another long-term server.
16:33 cimbakahn I also do like home decor, and xdecor.
16:33 LazyJ King Arthur's Land is too but their registration system gets fubared from time to time.
16:34 LazyJ Red Cat Creative is likely to be a long-term server. Has mesecons but not Techinic, no mobs as of yet.
16:34 LazyJ Sounds like VanessaE's servers may have more of what you are looking for.
16:36 LazyJ Check the servers.minetest.net list for server age and the mods that they run.
16:36 greeter i don't know if any of VanessaE's servers has mobs, but they have the others for sure
16:37 LazyJ Ihrfussel's server has hostile and passive mobs... not sure about the Mesecons and Technic.
16:38 cimbakahn I used to play on Vanessa's creative server.  My building still stands there.  I thought she didn't have technic?
16:38 LazyJ I think Ihrfussel also tries to keep his server tuned for Minetest apps.
16:38 LazyJ Er... smartphones and tablets, that is.
16:39 greeter one of her survival servers has technic
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16:42 cimbakahn Cool!
16:43 greeter i was in the process of building a nuclear reactor on it, but i got stuck trying to chain centrifuges together to enrich the uranium so i gave up on it
16:44 cimbakahn Why did you give up?  Just frustrated?
16:44 greeter couldn't figure it out, got bored with it
16:47 cimbakahn I know.  And sometimes information is hard to find.  My current problem is an industrial dairy / chicken ranch.
16:48 greeter got no interest on building one of those in minetest personally. just moved from a place that had those lol
16:49 cimbakahn I purchased a industrial dairy / chicken ranch on a server, but it is broken.  Need to find a way to fix it.
16:49 LazyJ Ultimately, the only long-term world with all the mods you want will either be your own singleplayer world or your own server.
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16:50 greeter personally, i recommend the own server solution if you can afford it. get a solid VDS and you can run several minetest servers simultaneously
16:51 cimbakahn Well, i do have my own server.  It is very vanilla.  Can't afford to put mods on it yet.
16:51 greeter ah i see
16:52 greeter well vanilla minetest these days is better now than when i started playing it, somewhere around 2014
16:54 cimbakahn I have been playing minetest on and off for 8 years.  I am going to quit playing all my other games and just stick with minetest and openmw.
16:54 greeter hmm never heard of openmw
16:54 cimbakahn It is a linux engine of sorts which allows you to play Morrowind.
16:54 greeter nice
16:55 cimbakahn Which operating system are you running?
16:55 greeter linux
16:57 greeter hmm i i did not plan it this way, but in the city my fiancee and i built, you can get on top of 7 of the buildings without using fly
16:57 cimbakahn Oh!  That's great.  Which one?
16:58 greeter well i'm not sure what difference it makes in the end since fly is a default priv lol
16:59 cimbakahn I can't remember what i have running on my old laptop, but on my newer one (which is the one i'm on now) i am running BlackLab Linux LXDE.
16:59 greeter nice. i got lxde myself, running mint though
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17:01 cimbakahn Mint hasn't had a LXDE since 12.  You must of aquired a community edition, or put it together yourself.
17:02 cimbakahn I am going to put Manjaro LXDE on my older laptop, and Zorin on this one.
17:03 greeter oh wait that's right. i always get that mixed up with xfce for some reason
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17:03 cimbakahn Oh!  So you really have XFCE?
17:05 greeter yes
17:08 cimbakahn Do you know where there's any owners, admins, or moderators for [MSC] Creative?  I was just on their server for the second time and I noticed the whole city was griefed with water.  I fixed 6 places, but there is still 4 more to go.  I get the impression that they just created a minetest server and left, because there was no one on the server the entire time I was on it.  It was the same thing the first time I was on i
17:08 cimbakahn t, no one there.  The only listing for them that i can find on the entire internet is the minetest server list.
17:10 greeter could it be an anarchy server?
17:15 * greeter explores the prison
17:16 cimbakahn prison?
17:16 greeter a project my fiancee wanted to work on
17:20 cimbakahn Well, i have to go.  See you later.
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18:58 Astrobe What is the "population dynamics" on a survival server? Do people tend to stay around the spawn point? Or do they move away from it? Do they form groups?
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19:14 Shara Astrobe: depends on the server. But join a few and check?
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19:39 Astrobe It was more a question about the geographic evolution of the players, so observing it at a certain time shows the result, not the process.
19:44 twoelk different players play at different servers using different sets of controling the activity at different times generating different play patterns resulting in different maps and different societies at different times during their existance :-D
19:45 twoelk panta rhei !
19:47 Astrobe yeah I guess it's a hard question :-)
19:48 twoelk https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=84866#p84866
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19:58 Astrobe twoek: thanks, very interesting read. I've observed some of that too.
19:59 Astrobe I'm puzzled by the remark that protection block cause lag though, and that they had to hack the engine. But the post is 5 years old.
20:03 rubenwardy not true anymore
20:03 rubenwardy engine has inbuilt support for protection
20:03 rubenwardy and fast area quering (areastore)
20:06 Astrobe Does that imply that the protector block style of protection is still laggy?
20:08 rubenwardy yes
20:08 Krock everything is laggy. with protector you've got to check a certain area for a specific group each dig/place event
20:08 rubenwardy as it needs to do a find in area
20:08 rubenwardy better to use
20:08 rubenwardy !mod [areas]
20:08 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Advanced area protection [areas] by ShadowNinja - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=7239
20:08 rubenwardy unless the mod supports arestore, that is
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22:30 IhrFussel LazyJ, thank you for recommending someone my server ... My server wouldn't meet the requirements though as it doesn't have technic installed
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22:42 LazyJ IhrFussel, yw ;)
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23:55 DudestOfMen rubenwardy: Is there an install guide for your ctf server?  I had to get 3 separate downloads (ctf, ctf_pvp_engine, and crafting)...but I'm still getting error messages
23:56 DudestOfMen rubenwardy: it's awesome work, btw.  I want one of my own!

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