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BillyS |
Is there some way to get an entity to store a string? I want to make a bullet be given a string which is the name of the player who shot it, but I don't see how to store it. |
| 01:00 |
BillyS |
It seems that obj:set_attribute only applies to players |
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rubenwardy |
unfortunately no |
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rubenwardy |
well yes |
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rubenwardy |
you can store it in the Lua table |
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rubenwardy |
but you have to manage saving it yourself |
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BillyS |
Hmmm |
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BillyS |
Ok, thanks |
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BillyS |
By "Lua table" do you mean an external table my mod would create, the object's property table, or something else? |
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BillyS |
Oh, you probably mean the table I use when registering it . . ok, thanks |
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rubenwardy |
yes |
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rubenwardy |
the thing you can get with self |
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rubenwardy |
and the thing you can do self.object |
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rubenwardy |
you can also get it from EntityRef:get_luaentity() |
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BillyS |
Woohoo, it works! Thanks for the help! :D |
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ANAND |
Quick question: Are the pre-existing mods (made for 0.4) compatible with 0.5.0_dev? |
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sfan5 |
yes |
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ANAND |
ah... thanks |
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dustfinger |
I created a user named minetest. I added this user to the games group. When I su to minetest and run minetestserver it fails with: Failed to open log file /var/log/minetest/minetest.log: Permission denied. The minetest.log has ownership Debinain-minetest:games. The distribution of is Ubuntu server. Shouldn't my minetest user be able to open that file since it is a member of games and games is the group that has owne |
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dustfinger |
rship? |
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dustfinger |
I noticed that the group mode for /var/log/minetest was read and execute only. I changed it to read and write, but still no joy. I then changed chmod 770 /var/log/minetest and now I can start the server. why does the server need execute permission to open the log file? Shouldn't read and write be sufficient? |
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upsage |
hey there |
| 10:33 |
upsage |
is there any computer mods for minetest? |
| 10:33 |
ANAND |
yes |
| 10:33 |
upsage |
can you tell me it's name? |
| 10:34 |
upsage |
or maybe send me a link |
| 10:34 |
ANAND |
https://github.com/minetest-mods/computer/archive/master.zip |
| 10:35 |
upsage |
thx |
| 10:35 |
ANAND |
:) |
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upsage |
haven't seen that git repo |
| 10:36 |
ANAND |
I don't think it's possible to craft computers though - you can only use /give or enable creative mode |
| 10:39 |
ANAND |
upsage ^ |
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dustfinger |
I am getting a bind error address already in use. before running I ran ufw allow 30000. I set my bind_address to my hosts IP and I left the port as default. Could this be another permissions issue perhaps? |
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dustfinger |
lsof -ti:30000 returns nothing. So I think the address is not really in use, but I have no idea why I am seeing this error. |
| 11:10 |
dustfinger |
I also checked ufw status and it is not enabled, so I don't think it is a firewall problem. |
| 11:15 |
dustfinger |
sudo lsof -ti:30000 did show that a minetestserver process was running, but as the Debian-minetest user. So I killed that and now I am able to run the server as my minetest user. |
| 11:15 |
dustfinger |
Perhaps I should have just been using the Debian-minetest user in the first place. I did not know about it though until I started to investigate issues. |
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deltasquared |
debian auto-starting things does tend to lead to some suprises. |
| 11:27 |
dustfinger |
Anyone here use gentoo. I have another computer running gentoo and I would like to lanch the minetest client and connect to my minetest server running on ubuntu. In installed games-action/minetest on gentoo, but that seems to just have one binary which appears to be the server. It has a binary called minetest that seems to simply be the server cli. Is the same cli used to launch the client somehow? |
| 11:28 |
deltasquared |
dustfinger: as in you just get console output if you run it with no arguments? |
| 11:29 |
dustfinger |
This is what happens when I run it with no arguments: https://paste.pound-python.org/show/XqNGAGid1psDu5M0MG6s/ |
| 11:30 |
dustfinger |
These were my options for installing minetest: https://paste.pound-python.org/show/c95pC82OachtZKaAcX0p/ |
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deltasquared |
dustfinger: one moment |
| 11:37 |
deltasquared |
dustfinger: ... ah. the X11 error thing I have encountered before myself... have you managed to get anything else with openGL working? |
| 11:37 |
dustfinger |
deltasquared: I just ran glxinfo and it also failed. |
| 11:37 |
deltasquared |
dustfinger: did you install your mesa drivers |
| 11:38 |
dustfinger |
I have the nvidia drivers installed. |
| 11:38 |
deltasquared |
dustfinger: hmm, can you paste strace output of running minetest please |
| 11:38 |
deltasquared |
I get that particular error in situations where a suitable GL driver cannot be loaded |
| 11:39 |
dustfinger |
Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. I will have to look into this. |
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deltasquared |
dustfinger: it's slightly different in my case (it's due to weird search paths for mesa), but mine looks like this: https://ptpb.pw/Zkub |
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deltasquared |
so bar the libGL lines (which are mesa specific IIRC, wouldn't apply to the nvidia binaries) it looks very similar |
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dustfinger |
I may not have rebooted since I last udpate my initramfs / kernel and rebuilt my nvidia modules. I might try that. |
| 11:48 |
deltasquared |
dustfinger: oh yeah, mismatching versions can cause weird stuff like that |
| 11:48 |
deltasquared |
the nvidia drivers are seemingly very annoying at telling you what's wrong with them >_> |
| 11:48 |
deltasquared |
which is to say, not at all |
| 11:49 |
dustfinger |
I am also looking at this forum: https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-1038196-start-0.html |
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deltasquared |
dustfinger: reboot first. if in doubt... turn it off and on again |
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dustfinger |
Yeah, I am going to do that now. Back in a second... |
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dustfinger |
I have the client working now. I had not rebooted since the last time I rebuilt my initramfs / nvida drivers |
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deltasquared |
dustfinger: nice to hear. I was going to say to avoid messing with xorg.conf per that thread, it can become a game of grasping at straws |
| 12:24 |
dustfinger |
I loaded the clienta and from the Local Game tab I pressed the icon with the three arrows that ppoint up which put me into minimal development test. How do I get out of that. Also, is there online documentation for the minetest client? |
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NathanS21 |
To choose any other game just click on their icons, they should be just to the side of the minimal development test icon. |
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deltasquared |
dustfinger: you should have installed minetest_game, not sure if gentoo bundles it |
| 12:30 |
dustfinger |
deltasquared: Ah, the problem is that I should have not been on that tab in the first place. I switched to the play online tab and connected to the server. I have my game on a local server running on a different box (ubuntu) Thanks. |
| 12:38 |
dustfinger |
how do I restart a game in minetest? |
| 12:38 |
dustfinger |
That is, how do I put it back to the very begining state so that nothing has happened yet. |
| 12:41 |
deltasquared |
dustfinger: delete the world? |
| 12:46 |
dustfinger |
Yah, that would work. I think I am going to try and use roleback to do it though. I just found how to get info on the server commands. |
| 12:46 |
deltasquared |
dustfinger: I'm a bit confused at what it is you're trying to do... are you new to minetest? |
| 12:48 |
dustfinger |
deltasquared: Yes, brand new. I accidentally dropped my pick ax as soon as I logged in. I wanted to rollback so I would have it agian. When I run /rollback dustfinger 10000 it tells me that there is nothing to do. |
| 12:48 |
dustfinger |
it says reverting actions failed |
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deltasquared |
dustfinger: I'm not actually sure how reversion works so I can't help you there |
| 12:49 |
dustfinger |
deltasquared: np. I will probably just delete the world for now. I did enable rollback in the config so I was hoping that this would be a good opportunity to try it out. |
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deltasquared |
if it's that much of annoyance, might I suggest using /give on the server if you control it |
| 12:51 |
dustfinger |
deltasquared: Okay, I will try that as well. I am not sure wht the item was called. It is whatever I had in my inventory in the first container. |
| 12:51 |
dustfinger |
I think it was my ax. |
| 12:51 |
dustfinger |
axe I mean. |
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deltasquared |
dustfinger: material? |
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deltasquared |
the naming scheme is a little unintuitive IMO, it's something like default:axe_$material |
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deltasquared |
(the internal name you'll need for /give that is) |
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ANAND |
/giveme default:pickaxe_steel |
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deltasquared |
ANAND: I suggested running it from the server. so /give $player ... |
| 12:53 |
ANAND |
ah ok |
| 12:53 |
deltasquared |
(only because maybe they didn't want permanent god privileges, just to replace a fumble early on) |
| 12:53 |
deltasquared |
though that said, for new players, I would suggest let that be a lesson to ya :P |
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ANAND |
ha |
| 12:55 |
dustfinger |
Thanks both of you. I will look up how to run commands from teh server. That is a really good idea. It would be nice to not always run as admin. |
| 12:55 |
dustfinger |
Okay, I have to head to work :-( Thanks for all the help setting this up. |
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ANAND |
Good luck dustfinger |
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JDCodeIt |
Guessing there is no way to get hook the callback from the default node right click when the meta data has "formspec" data - was hoping to substitute the formspec based on clicker, and not need to register a global on_player_receive_fields |
| 13:34 |
JDCodeIt |
... and on_right_click for the node |
| 13:37 |
Krock |
on_rightclick is triggered even if "formspec" is set, but requires a development client |
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JDCodeIt |
So, not possible to hook the default function - the modder needs to code on_right_click and register a global on_player_receive_fields? Or can we have the node-specific form fields return via a node on_receive_fields? |
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Krock |
the node on_receive_fields only works for the "formspec" meta IIRC |
| 13:40 |
Krock |
"So, not possible to hook the default function". err what? yes it is possible |
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Krock |
but replacing the formspec field in that callback is not possible, because the client won't wait for it |
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JDCodeIt |
Right, so yes, to display and use a clicker-specific form, the modder needs to write the on_right_click for the node, and register a global on_player_receive_fields (which kindly just responds to its own form names, and returns false for all others)? |
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Krock |
* on_rightclick. You can return either "nil"/nothing or false |
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Krock |
but yes, that's how it's done |
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JDCodeIt |
Cool - that said, I think I'm not seeing how to pass the pos of the node that got clicked. I was debugging a mod where the modder put this in a formspec field out of view, but that got corrupted by some curious play who happened to bash on the keyboard while the formspec was shown - typing into the only editable field on the form. |
| 14:00 |
Krock |
two possibilities: 1) add a hacky new formspec element, containing the position of the node. 2) keep the node position in a player-name-indexed table: https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/blob/master/mods/default/nodes.lua#L2041 |
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Krock |
or add a player attribute with the last opened formspec pos |
| 14:02 |
Krock |
^ not a too great choice because it'll be stored and eats the space away for unnecessary data |
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rubenwardy |
*player meta ;) |
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* Krock |
cries in 0.4.16-stable |
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JDCodeIt |
#2 seems to fit and keeps it contained in the mod, The formspec hack seem fragile |
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Krock |
I haven't seen anyone actually using that method, whereas #2 is used in situations like these |
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Krock |
it's just a little gain but also set the field to nil when players leave |
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JDCodeIt |
When one has a node on_right_click() the node will never call on_receive_fields() if also defined? |
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JDCodeIt |
And conversely when there is no on_right_click() defined, and the node has "formspec" metadata - the closing of that formspec does not send fields to the registered global on_player_receive_fields functions, yes? |
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Krock |
it's still on_rightclick() - how about try&error? :D |
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JDCodeIt |
Will do - that's more fun anyhow |
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MinetestBot |
[git] paramat -> minetest/minetest_game: Rebalance bronze and steel tools, swap ore depths bbb88e6 https://git.io/vpmHU (2018-04-20T19:13:16Z) |
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MinetestBot |
[git] paramat -> minetest/minetest: Node resolver: Make error on fallback optional, disable for mapgen al… 0e55470 https://git.io/vpmQ0 (2018-04-20T19:26:30Z) |
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andirc8000 |
I have a question I want to expand signs_lib mod a bit, is there a potential limitation of amount of characters that I can write on a sign? (if I make my own mod) |
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