Time  Nick           Message
00:56 blaise         hrmm
00:56 blaise         I wonder if a rpi0w is powerful enough to run a minetest server
00:57 Glorfindel     specs?
00:57 Glorfindel     wait nm
00:58 Glorfindel     that wouldn't be comparable
00:59 Glorfindel     ]minetest: /build/minetest-wva50I/minetest-0.4.16/src/util/serialize.h:278: void writeF1000(irr::u8*, irr::f32): Assertion `i >= F1000_MIN && i <= F1000_MAX' failed.
01:00 Glorfindel     wut
01:24 blaise         nice job
01:26 Glorfindel     what does it even mean
01:30 blaise         I didn't write the code, so I have no idea
01:30 blaise         seems like something was extended out past the bounds of how the serialize.h is used
01:31 blaise         that or setting the bounds failed
01:32 Glorfindel     hm
01:33 blaise         hey, atleast it wasn't stdio.h
01:33 blaise         that would suck massive donkey balls
01:33 blaise         probably would be a lot easier to fix though
01:40 Glorfindel     alright, I think I'll just make a new map... nothing was really done with this one yet
01:40 Glorfindel     thanks blaise
01:40 blaise         wish I could have been more helpful
02:08 Glorfindel     these warnings about minetest.setting_* functions being depreciated are annoying :/
02:17 lumberJ        Glorfindel: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=18002
02:18 lumberJ        put this in your minetest.conf: deprecated_lua_api_handling = legacy
02:20 Glorfindel     lumberJ: oh sweet, thanks!
02:20 lumberJ        yw
07:18 IcyDiamond     I have never worked with files in lua, but will io.open(directory.."/"..filetag) work on windows as well?
07:18 IcyDiamond     does lua generalize paths?
07:18 IcyDiamond     or is there a function to join paths
07:20 IcyDiamond     wait, dofile always has / as far as i've seen, so it does generalize?
09:15 IcyDiamond     where can i find the code to the crafting formspec
09:19 IcyDiamond     i cannot find where and how sfinv:crafting is handeled
09:20 IcyDiamond     like, where does it actually set the preview
09:20 IcyDiamond     "Written by rubenwardy"
09:20 IcyDiamond     rubenwardy: help pls
09:21 rubenwardy     Engine
09:21 IcyDiamond     wot
09:21 IcyDiamond     so i cant make a custom crafting "table"?
09:22 rubenwardy     It's in the engine for client side prediction reasons
09:22 rubenwardy     You could make one without that
09:23 rubenwardy     Node inventories don't have that anyway
09:24 rubenwardy     The preview is set by craftresult which is a hidden list
09:28 IcyDiamond     https://i.lunasqu.ee/Screenshot_18-04-08-12:28:06.png
09:28 IcyDiamond     I have no idea how i'd make this work
09:29 IcyDiamond     looks like all workbench mods just edit the player's formspec..
09:29 IcyDiamond     dammit
09:34 IcyDiamond     OH
09:34 IcyDiamond     if you set inventory location to current_player on the list, it just works
09:34 IcyDiamond     thats awesome!
09:35 IcyDiamond     that's actually really cool
10:23 IcyDiamond     why does formspec close when you hit enter on a field
10:24 IcyDiamond     oh theres a field_close_on_enter[<name>;<close_on_enter>]
10:24 IcyDiamond     nvm
10:49 IcyDiamond     https://i.lunasqu.ee/minetest-2018-04-08_13.43.13.webm mod demo!
10:51 IcyDiamond     actually use this link https://gateway.ipfs.io/ipfs/Qmcn12M7RFTCDovYBbbbF1vEwDuXPc84YVHbPyDtDuXmcp
11:21 IcyDiamond     can you not use facedir on a nodebox?
11:22 IcyDiamond     oh, just not connected ones
11:22 IcyDiamond     hmm
12:50 cimbakahn      Hello!
12:51 cimbakahn      Does anyone know what the latest stable version of Minetest is for MAC?
12:56 sfan5          there's no official mac releases
12:56 sfan5          you should be able to install 0.4.16 via brew though
13:02 cimbakahn      Shucks!  His brew is half broken.
13:03 cimbakahn      I was trying to help him to get a newer stable version of Minetest.
13:04 Krock          install wine and run a windows binary which was cross-compiled from Linux 8)
13:05 cimbakahn      He said (when he saw the sheep) that it was just a white block with no face.
13:05 cimbakahn      I am trying to help someone that is running MAC.
13:06 Krock          I suggest cutting the fur/wool if it already looks that bad :P
13:07 Krock          "Official WineHQ packages of the development and stable branches are available for macOS 10.8 and higher." ~https://wiki.winehq.org/MacOS
13:08 cimbakahn      I see the sheep fine and normally, but he doesn't, and the Minetest version he is using is .11
13:08 cimbakahn      Are you saying MAC users can install and use wine?
13:09 Krock          depends what kind of MAC it is. a MACINTOSH PLUS will probably not run WINE
13:11 Krock          using wine wasn't meant too serious but if you really want to play a recent Minetest version, then it's a solution. definitely not the best one but works
13:12 Krock          or just try to repair the brew installation
13:17 cimbakahn      Ok.  I will tell him your suggestions.
13:40 IcyDiamond     https://github.com/LunaSquee/storagetest
13:49 IcyDiamond     https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=19932 made forum topic
13:52 Fixer          oh boy
13:52 Fixer          storagetest? yet another wonderful name :(
13:52 IcyDiamond     XD
13:53 IcyDiamond     sorry, I couldn't come up with something else
13:53 IcyDiamond     needed a quick name for it
13:53 rubenwardy     Pls no *test names
13:53 IcyDiamond     but its still in development so i can change it
13:54 Fixer          yeah, fuck test
13:54 Fixer          we suffered enough
13:54 IcyDiamond     XD
13:54 Shara          It will stick, and then you'll never escape it
13:54 IcyDiamond     ok give me suggestions
13:55 Markow         lol
13:55 Shara          And untold horrors will unfold forever
13:55 IcyDiamond     i could do a quick replace in all files
13:55 IcyDiamond     XD
13:55 Shara          I've been trying to get name ideas from people for something for the past few days.. so I don't think I can come up with any names for anything right now :D
13:55 IcyDiamond     XD
13:59 Fixer          StorageSystem
14:00 Fixer          storage-system
14:00 Fixer          storage-interface was taken sadly
14:00 Fixer          improved-storage
14:12 IcyDiamond     renamed
14:13 Krock          Already used prefixes: "i" (Apple), "my" (Don Batman), "mine" (various). Suffixes: "mine" (various), "test" (various), "_redo" (tenplus1)
14:13 IcyDiamond     lol
14:14 Krock          Also the prefix "more" (various)
14:15 IcyDiamond     makes sense - minetest community hates naming things *test
14:15 IcyDiamond     :D
14:15 rubenwardy     should make a minemark office to ensure that these identities are used consistently
14:15 IcyDiamond     XD
14:15 rubenwardy     because test is objectively the worst part of minetest
14:16 rubenwardy     like, mine is pretty cool
14:16 IcyDiamond     :D
14:16 rubenwardy     but testing? Who does that
14:16 Krock          .. everybody?
14:16 IcyDiamond     XD
14:17 rubenwardy     IcyDiamond: I forked rpgtest because I hated its name
14:17 IcyDiamond     :D
14:17 Krock          "Who does that" as in "using 'test' in a project title": c55 8)
14:17 IcyDiamond     XD
14:17 rubenwardy     and also the fact that the author suffers from the NIH syndrome
14:19 Krock          had to look up the NIH syndrome.. so it's basically the "do-it-yourself(TM)"-ideology?
14:19 rubenwardy     yeah
14:19 rubenwardy     every line of code they wrote themselves instead of using common existing mods
14:20 Krock          because who doesn't like to re-invent the wheel? :D
14:20 Krock          it's actually quite good for learning purposes as you have an exact scheme/concept given
14:20 rubenwardy     I'm lazy
14:20 rubenwardy     I only do it if the code is crap or a pain to integrate
14:21 IcyDiamond     xD
14:21 rubenwardy     for example, I made sfinv and rewrote a few mods for CTF because the existing ones were crap
14:22 IcyDiamond     lmao
14:22 rubenwardy     for example, sprint set the speed every tick :'(
14:27 IcyDiamond     can you override sfinv's crafting page?
14:27 IcyDiamond     I want to make my own inventory mod, for myself
14:27 IcyDiamond     don't care if im reinventing wheels
14:27 IcyDiamond     XD
14:27 rubenwardy     yes
14:28 rubenwardy     see   github.com/rubenwardy/crafting
14:28 rubenwardy     also, it's fine to make your own for educational reasons
14:28 rubenwardy     my issue was that it was being done in a game rather than independently, slowing down the game's progression
16:40 IcyDiamond     Added a soldering device and a bunch of craftitems and recipes
16:41 IcyDiamond     Ayy
16:41 deltasquared   IcyDiamond: ooh nice
16:41 IcyDiamond     !mod holostorage
16:41 MinetestBot    IcyDiamond: Could not find anything.
16:41 IcyDiamond     Aw
16:41 deltasquared   you may be interested to know that the programming part of my current ordeal (the university assignment) is over, so I may have some brain power spare
16:41 IcyDiamond     Cool
16:41 deltasquared   alas, the simulator isn't turing complete. didn't give it any branch instructions
16:42 deltasquared   I have two weeks to complete the dissertation. this'll be fun >_>
16:42 IcyDiamond     deltasquared: https://github.com/LunaSquee/holostorage my new mod
16:42 deltasquared   the image of a squeeing luna still makes me chuckle
16:43 IcyDiamond     Lol
16:43 deltasquared   oh cool, end game storage stuff?
16:43 deltasquared   like LOADSA items?
16:43 IcyDiamond     Yeah I guess so
16:44 deltasquared   (I might look up the MC mod it refers to)
16:44 IcyDiamond     Says in readme
16:44 deltasquared   I know, I meant go find out more about it
16:44 IcyDiamond     Kk
16:44 IcyDiamond     It's not 1:1 tho
16:44 deltasquared   direwolf20 is an old favourite of mine for anything in MC's technic
16:44 deltasquared   IcyDiamond: I didn't expect it to be
16:44 IcyDiamond     More like 1:0.00056
16:44 deltasquared   just wanted a general feel
16:44 IcyDiamond     XD
16:45 IcyDiamond     Yeah I watch(ed) direwolf20 as well
16:45 deltasquared   nothing wrong with taking, uh, inspiration from  MC mods :P
16:45 IcyDiamond     I've been addicted to minetest modding so I don't feel like sitting through lets plays of some other game
16:45 IcyDiamond     XD
16:46 rubenwardy     XD
16:46 deltasquared   IcyDiamond: oh I can perfectly understand, why settle for watching someone else have the fun when you can write it yourself?
16:46 IcyDiamond     Exactly
16:48 deltasquared   meanwhile, /me plays with implementing constrained integers: https://godbolt.org/g/j3u7um
16:48 deltasquared   warning: C++ code ahead :P
16:48 IcyDiamond     I'm having a pot of fun modding minetest
16:48 IcyDiamond     Lot
16:48 IcyDiamond     Not pot
16:48 rubenwardy     IcyDiamond: good to hear!
16:48 deltasquared   pot of fun works too
16:48 rubenwardy     you remind me of my golden modding days
16:48 IcyDiamond     XD
16:48 rubenwardy     before I started doing this annoying thing called "engine development"
16:48 deltasquared   rubenwardy: what happened after?
16:48 deltasquared   ... ah.
16:49 deltasquared   oh gawd
16:49 IcyDiamond     Hahaha
16:49 deltasquared   I have to admit, some things I've seen in the engine make my eye twitch... I suspect I'd have too many disagreements
16:49 IcyDiamond     XD
16:49 rubenwardy     I spend lots of my minetest time implementing modding API features which I'll never use because I'm spending lots of my minetest time implementing modding API features which I'll never use because I'm spending lots of my minetest time implementing modding API features which I'll never use because I'm...
16:50 deltasquared   rubenwardy: do you write C++ metaprogramming templates? they're like that
16:50 rubenwardy     lol
16:50 deltasquared   lots of recursion and people are like "so what were you trying to do again?"
16:51 deltasquared   (because C++ templates are a fully turing complete functional language in themselves >_>)
16:51 deltasquared   which means, you can write programs which will almost certainly crash your compiler. yay!
16:54 deltasquared   brb saving that C++ thing, that was starting to get long
16:55 IcyDiamond     rubenwardy: :D
16:56 IcyDiamond     You're stuck in a recursive function
16:56 MinetestBot    02[git] 04paramat -> 03minetest/minetest_game: Farming: Deprecate bronze, mese and diamond hoes. Tune steel uses (#2… 139c459e7 https://git.io/vxQQL (152018-04-08T16:55:19Z)
16:56 IcyDiamond     Rip hoes
16:57 deltasquared   IcyDiamond: the iron ones still exist
16:57 IcyDiamond     Xdddd
16:57 deltasquared   I think they must have decided the other materials weren't worth it
16:57 IcyDiamond     rubenwardy: gg
16:57 IcyDiamond     deltasquared: they really aren't
16:58 deltasquared   even minecrafters know never to waste diamonds on a hoe
16:58 MinetestBot    02[git] 04sofar -> 03minetest/minetest_game: Prevent divide by zero (#2106) 138c71f3d https://git.io/vxQQZ (152018-04-08T16:57:00Z)
16:58 IcyDiamond     Divide by zeeroooo
16:58 deltasquared   tetsuooooooo
16:58 deltasquared   sorry.
17:12 deltasquared   ooh, dinner time
19:06 Wuzzy          oh man.
19:06 Wuzzy          a player of MineClone 2 just complained that it doesn't work on Android for some reason.
19:06 Wuzzy          Here's a log from debug.txt: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=16407&view=unread#p316204
19:07 Wuzzy          Sadly I have no clue what I could do, as I have no real experience w/ Android...
19:07 Out`Of`Control what is mineclone?
19:07 sfan5          he probably ran out of RAM
19:08 Krock          Out`Of`Control, a game
19:10 Out`Of`Control Krock:  i see just mod pack
19:10 Krock          [Game] MineClone 2 [0.36.2]
19:11 Krock          !mod mineclone
19:11 MinetestBot    Krock: MineClone 2 by Wuzzy - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=16407
19:11 Wuzzy          sfan5: the sad thing is, screen just went black, no error msg, nothing.
19:11 sfan5          how is that surprising?
19:12 Wuzzy          well maybe android just sucks?
19:12 Wuzzy          :D
19:12 sfan5          nah
19:12 Wuzzy          ok screen didnt go back actually
19:12 Wuzzy          just went back to home screen and minetest clearly died
19:13 Krock          rip
19:14 Wuzzy          is really android that stupid that it is silently (i.e. no message to user) kills applications when it thinks it is "the right thing to do (TM)"?
19:16 Glorfindel     no usually the whole thing just freezes and you can't really do anything
19:19 Wuzzy          then android really does suck
19:19 adfeno         This is why I hate Android :D If I had the skills to, I would personally invest on developing for Replicant instead.
19:20 IcyDiamond     !mod holostorage
19:20 Wuzzy          and why aren't you doing that?
19:20 MinetestBot    IcyDiamond: Could not find anything.
19:20 Glorfindel     Wuzzy: no no no, this is on purpose, because android has a really sophisticated way of knowing what app you don't want running in the background and keeps it going strong!
19:21 adfeno         Wuzzy: I'm not doing that because I literally have little programming experience.
19:21 Wuzzy          and what prevents you from learning?
19:21 Wuzzy          Glorfindel: .-)
19:22 Glorfindel     I'm actually not even kidding, unfortunately
19:22 Glorfindel     that's why I always close apps
19:23 Wuzzy          wow i am really shocked that they cant even fail gracefully when android runs out of memory. just freeze. wtf, seriously? how on earth did android become one of the top OSes? :&
19:24 adfeno         Wuzzy: A portable device made from a bunch of people that don't care for world's sustainability (not just environmental pillar) and that made the specific users of this device to not have control over their own tools.
19:24 Wuzzy          adfeno: :-) but you avoided my question. xD
19:24 Wuzzy          aaaaanyway.
19:24 adfeno         Wuzzy: ^ "Just push the next beautiful device to the masses, and control their environemnt"
19:25 Glorfindel     Wuzzy: I was slightly exaggerating, and most phones have enough ram so you wouldn't notice much unless you run large apps
19:25 Wuzzy          ah. lazyness. of course.
19:25 adfeno         ^ the last two messages I sent answer your question and the "how it became the popular OS?" one.
19:25 rubenwardy     Wuzzy: have you seen Awards 3.0.0?
19:25 rubenwardy     the code is actually good now
19:26 rubenwardy     awards: meh
19:26 Wuzzy          i am aware but i am in ignore mode
19:26 rubenwardy     sure
19:26 Wuzzy          i am in ignore mode for a lot of things right now, actually
19:27 Wuzzy          rubenwardy: but looks like the system is closer to MC's advancement system, so might actually be useful to me
19:27 Wuzzy          but achievements/advancements/awards have very low priority for me right now
19:28 Wuzzy          more important to get the real game done
19:28 Wuzzy          i am kind of a love/hate relationship to the idea of achivements...
19:28 rubenwardy     yeah, sure
19:29 Wuzzy          on the on hand they are cool as they are a way to track unique successes in the game which would be otherwise forgotten
19:29 rubenwardy     I updated it so it could be used as a progression system
19:29 rubenwardy     so awards unlock crafts
19:29 Wuzzy          on the other hand its easy to overdo them to add a ton of pointless tasks which dont add much to the game
19:30 Wuzzy          yeah this sounds a lot like advancements. cool. so i dont have to rewrite everything. :)
19:31 Wuzzy          still this thing has very low priority for me now. maybe i get to it when everything else is fine
19:32 rubenwardy     cool
19:32 rubenwardy     well, as the biggest not-me contributor I thought I'd ask your opinion :)
19:35 Wuzzy          oh? I'm the biggest contributor to awards? ha. holy shit. dev time goes by fast
19:36 rubenwardy     yeah :)   https://github.com/rubenwardy/awards/graphs/contributors
19:36 Wuzzy          i mean second-biggest of course (LOL)
19:36 rubenwardy     oh wait, kaeza is higher
19:36 rubenwardy     soz
19:36 Wuzzy          oops
19:36 Wuzzy          yeah kaeza is 2nd
19:36 rubenwardy     I think he made them over a shorter period of time? idk
19:36 Wuzzy          hahaha with 4 commits. okay...
19:42 IcyDiamond     Lol
20:08 rubenwardy     :)   https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/7226
20:08 rubenwardy     !title
20:09 MinetestBot    rubenwardy: Add online content library by rubenwardy · Pull Request #7226 · minetest/minetest · GitHub
20:09 rubenwardy     IcyDiamond ^
20:10 IcyDiamond     rubenwardy: nice
20:18 IcyDiamond     Maybe holostorage was just a waste of time. Meh, I still had a good time working on it
20:19 IcyDiamond     I don't know why do I seek attention at all, after all, I do all this for my own sake
20:19 IcyDiamond     My brain doesn't work correctly
20:20 IcyDiamond     Well, tomorrow I'll probably make an api for the import/export buses and maybe even an external storage bus you can stick onto a chest
20:22 blaise         wow, these lua atc rails .... I don't know if I'm going to be able to wrap my head around this
20:22 blaise         I wish there was a few simple examples for me to learn from
20:34 rdococ         I'm working on a fork of minetest_game that modifies the furnace to make shift-clicking into it more intuitive (fuel items get sent to the fuel slot, other items to the src slot) -> https://github.com/rdococ/minetest_game
20:35 blaise         rdococ: interest
20:35 blaise         rdococ: do you run your own server?
20:35 blaise         rdococ: would you care to check out my subway?
20:36 blaise         rdococ: I want to build a rather large freight system.. hence needing to learn the LUA ATC rail coding
20:36 rdococ         blaise: I don't host a server, but I have been experimenting with port forwarding and hosting. My computer, unfortunately, can barely play Minetest in singleplayer so I doubt I'll be able to host one any time soon. If you're talking about mere ownership of a server (that someone else hosts), I did have one but not anymore.
20:37 blaise         rdococ: you're welcome on my server... minetest://midnightsystems.net:30000/
20:37 blaise         :D
20:37 rdococ         interesting, minetest:// protocol
20:37 blaise         yeah, I wish it worked... hopefully one day
20:38 rdococ         I'm looking up custom protocol handlers
20:38 Krock          you can actually let firefox run a script that starts minetest with the correct parameters
20:38 rdococ         ^
20:38 blaise         would definity safe a lot of time and effort with the whole seemless server transition gateways that were talked about on and off over the years
20:39 blaise         Krock: with user and pass?! that would be perfect!
20:39 Krock          I haven't used that yet.. so I have no idea about the password
20:39 rdococ         blaise: Which version of Minetest does midnightsystems.net run?
20:40 blaise         I'm currently using 0.4.17 with backport 0.4 fixups
20:40 rdococ         Ah.
20:40 blaise         it's not strict versioning though, so you can use what ever you like if it's compatable with 0.4 protocols
20:40 Krock          oh lol. 0.5.0 actually tries to connect to it and isn't rejected by the server
20:41 blaise         right, non-strict version checking
20:41 Krock          it even created the account already
20:41 rdococ         Is the connection successful, though?
20:41 blaise         Krock: i've heard that 0.5.0 will connect fine with 0.4.17 servers
20:41 Krock          rdococ, works fine until after the registration
20:42 rdococ         Krock: Ah.
20:42 blaise         I may try to run a 0.5.0 server but non-announced, and at a different than default minetest port
20:42 blaise         I havnn't looked into it as of yet
20:42 Krock          blaise, that can only happen if the 0.5.0 client was built before the network compat break
20:43 blaise         it's interesting that there isn't a backwards compat flag for the client
20:43 blaise         as far as I've heard 0.5.0 wont be a stable release for quite some time
21:06 rdococ         blaise: Yay, the server looks fun
21:06 rdococ         brb
21:06 blaise         you're welcome any time
21:07 rdococ         Backâ„¢
21:08 blaise         I have a VM that has 8 cores,4GB of ram,and 80GB ssd storage..
21:09 blaise         I pay $15 a month for the VM.. it was mostly to support my favorite distribution of linux... (funtoo) but I thought running my minetest server on it would be nice
21:15 blaise         rdococ: time for sleep?
21:17 rdococ         eh, I'm still awake for now
21:17 blaise         like I was saying.. the server stays online 24/7..
21:18 blaise         and you're more than welcome
21:18 rdococ         thank you
21:18 rdococ         hi BakerPrime
21:24 blaise         damn, I keep ending up with train off track error
21:24 blaise         wtf
21:58 fwhcat         i'm so curious i will come ave a look
21:59 blaise         at?
22:09 fwhcat         at your server blaise ^^
22:09 fwhcat         nice builds there
22:10 blaise         the trains and power system is mine
22:10 blaise         the rest are either player built or spawned via villages or cottage mod
22:10 blaise         the trains require a lot of planning and time.. so I've not yet had the chance to build any structures for myself
22:11 blaise         subway stations taking up a considerable ammount of my time atm
22:11 fwhcat         you're using orwell96 adv trains mod ?
22:13 BakerPrime     Hello Rdococ
22:18 hisforevr      Hi I really need Help Hear is my past bin https://pastebin.com/3v1HXu6A
22:18 hisforevr      every mos comes up with the same error
22:19 Markow         blaise: What type of server are you running? Creative, Survival, other?
22:20 blaise         survival
22:21 blaise         the spawn area has plenty of resources to get you started, no worries about starving to death
22:21 blaise         :D
22:21 Markow         Are we (those who join your server) allowed to build our segment of a railway connectin and station, in addition to structure in our own area?
22:22 Markow         I'm looking for a server where I could construct a small city or town, and connect it to others via railway.
22:23 Markow         So once you arrive at another town, then you transfer on to a train route constructed by that owner
22:31 Markow         I guess I'll have to start up my own server as well then ;)
22:31 Fixer          wait
22:31 Fixer          there is server for that
22:31 Markow         My concept will be slightly different than others
22:32 Fixer          check linuxworks next generation, it has trains and train stations
22:32 hisforevr      Markow that sounds so neet
22:32 Markow         Basically, everyone gets their own area (for building structures and their portion of a railway station and tracks. Every owner must work together to connect their portions of the tracks (two of them for going each direction)
22:33 hisforevr      but I'm having mod issues
22:34 Markow         So, at the border of town areas, you continue your train ride on another owners tracks until you arrive at their station and then use their train and route
22:34 Markow         hisforevr: Which mod?
22:35 hisforevr      every mod I pit in minetest gives me this https://pastebin.com/3v1HXu6A
22:36 hisforevr      I'm about ready to give up on minetest
22:36 blaise         Markow: sure
22:37 blaise         hisforevr: you apparently don't have the depend requirements fulfilled
22:38 blaise         or, actually
22:38 blaise         it looks like you removed those mods and never took the load_mod lines out of your world.mt
22:39 hisforevr      What depends? I'been using minetest for about 3 years and never had an error like thsi
22:39 blaise         the world.mt file is trying to load mods that are not in the minetest/mods directory any longer
22:40 blaise         it looks like someone cleared out all the mods in that directory
22:40 hisforevr      ok should I go int the worlds folder and remove them physically?
22:40 blaise         but ban manager seems to still be there somehow
22:41 blaise         hisforevr: yeah, after you remove the mod from the mods directory if you don't get rid of the line in world.mt file that loads it it will give that error
22:42 hisforevr      ty Blaise: I'm on my phones wifi so I'll be back later God bless
22:46 Markow         Fixer: I'm looking to do that in creative mode. Would make things much easier for initial construction.
23:08 blaise         wow
23:08 blaise         so apparently setting or breaking to speed with advtrains doesnt use a numerical value to specify actual speed.. it's more of a percentage
23:08 blaise         lmao
23:18 rubenwardy     https://i.rubenwardy.com/P6c18.png
23:18 blaise         you added nyancat
23:18 blaise         lmao
23:19 Markow         Advanced Trains Mod is fabulous!
23:20 Markow         I've pretty much mastered the ins & outs of it.
23:21 blaise         well maybe you could give me a run down of how the LUA ATC rails work?
23:22 blaise         I've been looking at the documentation for about 3 hours now and I can't seem to make any sense out of it..
23:38 Markow         Ah, the LUA ATC is one item I don't use since it says in the instructions "incomplete", or is it complete now?
23:39 Markow         I use the static ATC commands
23:43 blaise         it is indeed a work in progress..
23:44 Markow         Yes
23:44 Markow         For now, the static ATC commands are working very nicely, so I have no complaints yet.
23:45 blaise         but the https://github.com/orwell96/advtrains/tree/master/advtrains_luaautomation directory has plenty of documentation on it
23:46 Markow         That's what confuses me. Is the Lua based ATC commands ready to use, or is it still a work-in-progress?
23:46 blaise         I wish to have activator rails switch off sidings.. say I have 5 side rails in a station, 4 have trains in them.. when one arives at the station I wish the one that has been there longest to be dispatched out of the station
23:46 Markow         That's why I really haven't devoted much time to it yet.
23:46 Markow         What you wish to do would require the more advanced Lua ATC commands, for sure.
23:47 blaise         if it werent in a usable state, the LINUXWORKS server wouldn't be possible
23:47 blaise         so it's most definitly usable..
23:47 Markow         Hmm ... good point. I haven't looked at the Linuxworks server yet.
23:47 blaise         you should most definitly log in and check things out
23:47 blaise         it's absolutly incredible
23:48 Markow         So it utilizes all signals and switches, right?
23:48 blaise         yeah
23:48 Markow         Some good documentation with working examples would be very helpful then.
23:48 blaise         yes...
23:48 blaise         lol