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IRC log for #minetest, 2018-03-06

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14:40 yusf What are som good cave generating API mods for MT?
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16:48 Macindaw__ Hi
16:53 Krock bai
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17:13 Boingo Is there a way to have privs assigned to groups, and put users in the groups?  Instead of assigning privs to each individual user...
17:16 sfan5 builtin no
17:16 sfan5 but there might be a mod that provides this
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18:48 blaise some guy named freddy put a bunch of anvils in my subway tunnels
18:50 Krock WE and protection mods solve that issue for you
18:51 blaise yeah, I fell asleep digging the tunnels
18:51 blaise lol
18:51 blaise was using digtron
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18:54 sebboh Hi all
18:57 Krock hi
18:57 sebboh My five year old and I have been playing on the local lan for a while and now I'm thinking about checking out some worlds hosted online.  I gamed online myself from about 1996 through maybe 2002 using a service called Kahn (cf. Kali). What has changed since then?
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18:58 Krock minetest in 2002?
18:58 sebboh I think most gamers these days use headsets and out-of-game software for them, is that right?
18:58 Krock well, Mumble is used in a few places as voice chatting software
18:58 sebboh No, not minetest. :) Descent 1 and 2, Warcraft II..
18:59 sebboh Are some minetest servers known to be kid-friendly?
18:59 Krock but Minetest doesn't have support for any of them yet, so it depends on the server whether voice is available there or not
18:59 Krock yes and no. there are always rude players around and weakly moderated servers
18:59 sebboh So the server may or may not run some 3rd party voice software, am I understanding you?
19:00 Krock exactly. a few might also have a discord server which allows voice communication
19:01 Krock some also have a IRC bridge to the in-game chat which is (of course) only text
19:01 blaise it's not built in to the game
19:01 blaise only the irc bridge, but that's a mod
19:01 Krock server = physical machine that may be able to run programs
19:01 Krock minetest server or minetestserver = hosts a minetest server
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19:07 blaise Krock: I can't even get rid of the anvil with the admin pick from maptools
19:07 blaise lol
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19:08 blaise am I going to have to remove the cottage mod to kill these anvils?
19:08 ThomasMonroe Worldedit can't even do it?
19:08 blaise I'm not savvy with we
19:10 blaise ThomasMonroe: how would I do that?
19:11 ThomasMonroe you'd set pos1 and pos2 to the anvil and the run `//set air`
19:11 ThomasMonroe then run*
19:11 Krock otherwise a hacked/edited client can help you
19:12 * ThomasMonroe just got finished wrapping his head around smart ptrs XD
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19:16 blaise ThomasMonroe: thanks
19:16 ThomasMonroe yw
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19:33 sebboh My wife and I discussed this and we think that a good minetest server for young kids (5 years old) would be one where the kids aren't allowed to join unless their own parent joins with them.  So, there's always an even number of players and half of them are adults, get it?  Does any such server exist or is anyone interested in participating in this if I start one?
19:35 sebboh ...I guess multiple parents or multiple kids would be OK and that would break the even number/half and half thing I described--whatever. :)
19:35 sfan5 I don't think such a server exists, your current options for guaranteed family friendliness are singleplayer
19:37 Out`Of`Control sebboh: so you need adult to defend kids against kids?
19:38 sebboh Well nothing in life is guaranteed. :)  Remember when I said I played online starting back in 1996 or so?  Those people became close friends.  The relationships you create online as a child are important.
19:39 sebboh Out`Of`Control: Maybe a kids-only server would be OK, but is there any such thing?  Who keeps adults out of it, and how?
19:40 Out`Of`Control how do you check age online?
19:40 sebboh (a kids-only server was the first idea my wife had, but she acknowledged that kids themselves might not be able to keep it that way.)
19:41 Out`Of`Control you would need a closed server, Users have to send you email to get an account or so
19:41 VanessaE well you could present a question or problem that no child could solve
19:41 Out`Of`Control haha rly
19:42 sfan5 ask whether they believe in santa
19:42 sebboh VanessaE: 1. that's unlikely and 2. but I think we need the inverse!
19:42 sebboh :)
19:45 sebboh I figure if I can find some kids and parents who are very similar to my kid and myself then we might enjoy playing minetest together, that's all.  Meanwhile I'm fully aware of the breadth and depth of the internet. :P I grew up here, entirely unsupervised...  And that was in the days of dialup... No way am I letting my five year old do that.  I was over twice his age when I got online.
19:45 VanessaE sebboh: kids are FAR more resourceful than they're given credit for - there's just no 100% accurate way to verify their age.
19:46 rubenwardy "What year did NASA land on the moon?"   [2003] [1969] [Trick question, the moon landings were faked]
19:46 sebboh VanessaE: talk to Out`Of`Control, I'm not trying to verify anyone's age.
19:46 VanessaE besides, what kid wants to have mom or dad watching them play?
19:46 sofar rubenwardy: lol
19:46 VanessaE haha
19:46 Out`Of`Control haha
19:47 sebboh VanessaE: my five year old wants me to watch him play.  He won't leave me alone while he plays, he wants to show me everything he builds
19:47 VanessaE ok, fair enough
19:47 sofar there's a few servers out there that actively try to police and keep the servers playable for kids
19:47 sofar e.g. TPS
19:47 Out`Of`Control sebboh: you can join any server, just hide chat
19:47 VanessaE my servers used to be kid-friendly
19:47 VanessaE but not really so much anymore.
19:48 VanessaE (not for *that* age group anyway)
19:48 Out`Of`Control my server is kids friendly, but not sure about 5 yrs
19:48 rubenwardy redcat is pretty good
19:48 sebboh sofar: TPS?  I don't have my minetest client in front of me right now.. Is there some server that shows up in the list that is labeled TPS?
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19:49 sfan5 !server pixel shadow
19:49 MinetestBot sfan5: No results
19:49 sfan5 !server TPS
19:49 MinetestBot sfan5: ░ TPS ░ Domes PVP Survival | servers.minetest.tv:30008 | Clients: 0/20, 0/1 | Version: 0.4.16-dev / tps_lw | Ping: 135ms
19:49 sebboh !server redcat
19:49 MinetestBot sebboh: No results
19:49 Out`Of`Control !server kids
19:49 MinetestBot Out`Of`Control: Celine in Thailand [EN] for kids | minetestserver.ddns.net | Clients: 1/32, 1/1 | Version: 0.4.16 / minetest | Ping: 236ms
19:50 rubenwardy !server Red Cat
19:50 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Red Cat Creative | red.cat5.tv | Clients: 3/35, 0/5 | Version: 0.4.16 / redcat | Ping: 10ms
19:50 Out`Of`Control hah
19:50 rubenwardy !server Dark land
19:50 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Dark Lands Survival | dl.esprc.club:55555 | Clients: 4/22, 4/4 | Version: 0.4.16 / minetest | Ping: 15ms
19:50 Out`Of`Control !server Liberty Land
19:50 MinetestBot Out`Of`Control: Liberty Land | mt.rbose.org | Clients: 4/50, 1/9 | Version: 0.4.16 / Liberty Land | Ping: 12ms
19:53 ThomasMonroe !server Legends Of Survival
19:53 MinetestBot ThomasMonroe: Legends Of Survival | minetestservers.ddns.net:48637 | Clients: 28/100, 16/40 | Version: 0.4.16 / LegendsOfSurvival | Ping: 104ms
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19:58 timcu Does anyone have irc mod working in minetest on windows?
20:03 paramat 'are some minetest servers known to be adult-friendly?' =D
20:06 timcu I am struggling on how to install luasocket on windows to get irc mod working
20:08 * Shara aims to keep her servers people-friendly, for any age
20:08 * rubenwardy can recommend her servers
20:08 * rubenwardy and has
20:13 Out`Of`Control worst are mobile device players
20:14 CWz +1
20:14 Out`Of`Control sometimes wish i could block them
20:15 CWz aman
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20:32 Krock timcu, I tried that too and wasn't successful
20:32 Krock it's anyway better to run a server on Linux due performance
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20:41 timcu Thanks krock. Performance not an issue. I have a python module which sends minetest commands over irc to build structures in minetest. Used for teaching python to kids. Some of the kids want to run this at home on their own minetest world which is why I would like windows. I’ll keep trying.
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20:45 Heckstatic https://a.uguu.se/3bP1I2dUI80D_mb.png we're getting somewhere
20:47 Heckstatic https://a.uguu.se/YgnOhlXHIkaP_mibi3.gif
20:51 timcu Yay I got it working
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21:01 Heckstatic https://a.uguu.se/Uv2eOJee8rKM_mibi5.gif
21:03 Heckstatic so my "engine" now has animation state machines
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21:47 pebe hi is in this game mod simular to world edit ?
21:47 sfan5 yes
21:47 sfan5 !mod worldedit
21:47 MinetestBot sfan5: WorldEdit [worldedit] by sfan5 - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=572
21:47 pebe thanks
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23:25 Heckstatic https://a.uguu.se/HZjIFQzIBi37_fl.gif blend maps done
23:27 Heckstatic the only thing happening in player step is checking if we're grounded, everything else lives in the animation chart
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23:54 Fixer is this from anime?
23:55 Heckstatic no it's from blended :^)
23:55 Heckstatic blender*

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