Time Nick Message 00:00 blaise_ Sketch2: woah 00:00 blaise_ Sketch2: Vanessa's prefab mod is mia on github.. =( 00:01 VanessaE not my mod. 00:01 VanessaE Dan Duncombe's 00:01 VanessaE check cheapies mods, he has a fork too 00:03 blaise_ so which one should I run? 00:04 blaise_ I need prefab for roads.... https://github.com/cheapie/road 00:04 blaise_ wtf, where did the s go 00:04 Sketch2 https://github.com/cheapie/prefab_redo 00:04 blaise_ https://github.com/cheapie/roads 00:05 blaise_ doors is in default I thought 00:06 blaise_ Sketch2: is it not? 00:06 Sketch2 yea 00:07 Sketch2 in minetest_game doors mod 00:20 blaise_ crap 00:21 blaise_ Sketch2: will I have to rename prefab_redo to prefab ? 00:21 Sketch2 ya know, I dunno. could change the streets to require prefab_redo instead 00:22 Sketch2 you'd think that would already be in there 00:22 Sketch2 considering they were both forks by the same guy 00:23 blaise_ lmao 00:23 Sketch2 either-or, most likely 00:23 * blaise_ freaks right out 00:23 blaise_ git clone https://github.com/cheapie/roads.git 00:23 blaise_ oops 00:34 blaise_ Sketch2: so, it's impossible to run that mod from a runinplace config 00:34 blaise_ unless I completely rewrite the mod 00:34 blaise_ that's awesome 00:34 Sketch2 which one? prefab or roads? 00:37 blaise_ oh wait 00:37 blaise_ it's not like that at all 00:37 blaise_ 2018-02-24 00:35:32: ERROR[Main]: /home/blaise/minetest/bin/../mods/roads/streetsmod/libs/smartfs/smartfs.lua: No such file or directory 00:38 blaise_ that smartfs dir in roads/streetsmod/libs/ is empty 00:38 blaise_ there's absolutly nothing in it 00:38 blaise_ lmao 00:39 blaise_ apparently it was a link to another git repo 00:39 blaise_ and it totally didn't follow it 00:40 blaise_ had to cd ~/minetest/mods/roads/streetsmod/libs/smartfs && git clone https://github.com/rubenwardy/smartfs.git . 00:40 blaise_ it works now 00:41 Sketch2 k, cool 00:41 blaise_ that should definitly be looked in to 00:41 Sketch2 I know sometimes git does tricks like 'submodule update' or something like that 00:42 blaise_ aparently smartfs is an entirely seperate mod that is supposed to be included in that mod pack 00:42 Sketch2 I don't recall the phrasing, but it's essentially like minetest_game 00:42 blaise_ but the way it is linked in, it just didn't work 00:42 blaise_ as far as cloning the tree 00:43 blaise_ also, I got villagers and villages playing nicely now 00:43 blaise_ you can log in to my server and have a full on conversation with the npc's in the spawn village 00:43 blaise_ ;D 00:44 blaise_ that was a interesting endevour to say the least 00:44 blaise_ I don't usually mess with advanced ai 00:44 Sketch2 you can chit-chat with 'em? 00:45 blaise_ yeah 00:45 blaise_ some of them sell stuff 00:45 blaise_ some of them just talk and stuff 00:45 blaise_ some of them wanna try and breed with you 00:45 blaise_ lol 00:45 Sketch2 impressive 00:46 Sketch2 trying to get this code on GitHub 00:46 blaise_ which choad? 00:46 Sketch2 I suck at it, so it'll a min 00:46 Sketch2 huh? 00:46 Sketch2 oh code? 00:47 blaise_ oh, yeah.. sorry 00:47 Sketch2 uh, the craptastic code I got so far wor my paradroid subgame 00:47 blaise_ nice 00:48 Sketch2 it totally blows, but it's fun to run around at eye-level with mice and slaughter 'em with a crossbow 00:50 blaise_ thats kinda weird 00:56 MrBlueEyes Sorry I went afk 00:59 blaise_ me too 00:59 blaise_ lol 01:03 MrBlueEyes Lol 01:03 MrBlueEyes Btw how are you 01:04 blaise_ me?! 01:04 blaise_ I'm okay I guess 01:04 blaise_ MrBlueEyes: do I know you? 01:07 blaise_ MrBlueEyes: how are you? 01:07 MrBlueEyes blaise U play minetest yes, and what servers 01:07 blaise_ MrBlueEyes: further more, would you log on to my minetest server and tell me if you feel that the game is acting funny to you? 01:08 blaise_ I only play on maybe one other server than my own 01:08 MrBlueEyes It has been lagging a lot 01:08 blaise_ MrBlueEyes: my server? 01:08 MrBlueEyes What server? 01:08 blaise_ midnightsystems.net:30000 01:09 MrBlueEyes Hmm I think I played it hold on you online the server 01:09 Sketch2 I'll hop on for a few, this github thing can wait 01:10 blaise_ my drops mod for some reason isn't dropping 01:10 blaise_ lol 01:10 blaise_ everything else seems fairly normal though 01:11 blaise_ although now when I place stairs, they don't face the direction I'm expecting, now they only go down a specific way no matter what angle I place them at 01:12 blaise_ I believe it may have something to do with adding that roads modpack 01:14 MrBlueEyes Lol I'm banned from that server idk why tho 01:23 blaise_ I didn't ban anyone 01:23 blaise_ lol 01:23 blaise_ let me look 01:26 blaise_ MrBlueEyes: what was your game nick 01:32 blaise_ I never saw a login attempt in the game log 01:33 blaise_ not from you, not recently 01:34 blaise_ MrBlueEyes: I don't even see a MrBlueEyes in the users list 01:38 MrBlueEyes I tried to join. 01:40 blaise_ what is the name you are trying to log in with? 01:41 blaise_ MrBlueEyes: Hello?! 01:41 MrBlueEyes MrBlueEyes 01:41 blaise_ you're not in the userlist at all 01:41 blaise_ you can't be banned 01:42 MrBlueEyes Sorry km on Dark Lands helping someone 01:43 blaise_ the only way you are being refused connection is if you hit my imaps, pop3s, or ssh ports too many times with a bad password.. in which case sshguard would automagicly add your ip to the blacklist 01:43 blaise_ ip's in the blacklist expire after 24 hours 01:44 blaise_ the next time that ip ends up blacklisted it's two weeks 01:44 MrBlueEyes O.o 01:45 blaise_ if you end up in the blacklist the third time it's permablacklisted and your ip is forwarded to several lists containing ip addresses that do continuous ssl auth attacks 01:45 blaise_ but sshguard doesn't monitor port 30000 01:45 blaise_ and to my knolege minetest doesnt use ssl 01:46 MrBlueEyes Okay imma find your server 01:47 blaise_ you don't have to find it, you already know the address to it 01:47 blaise_ all I did was install sshguard and snort 01:48 MrBlueEyes I figured it out ik what I did 01:48 MrBlueEyes Logging in 01:48 blaise_ sshguard handles all the temp stuff while snort handles long term.. snort also is what forwards offending ip addresses to other sites that have larger lists of attacking ip addresses so people can protect themselves from attackers 01:48 blaise_ ah 01:48 MrBlueEyes Okay 01:48 blaise_ what did you do? 01:49 blaise_ I don't believe you were trying to log in to my server 01:49 blaise_ lol 01:49 MrBlueEyes midnightsystems.net:30000. <---- instead of that I put midnightsystem.jet:30000 01:49 blaise_ ah 01:49 blaise_ lmao 01:50 MrBlueEyes I agree XD 01:50 MrBlueEyes It's loading so slow DX 01:51 blaise_ sorry 01:51 blaise_ it's a pretty fast server, idk 01:51 MrBlueEyes It's okay and k 01:51 MrBlueEyes U online 01:52 blaise_ remote_media = http://minetestmedia.foo-projects.org/ 01:52 blaise_ I have that in minetest.conf to try and make media load faster 01:52 MrBlueEyes K 01:52 blaise_ but if their server is slow then maybe I should remove it 01:53 MrBlueEyes And there we go I crashed 01:53 MrBlueEyes DX 01:53 blaise_ how did you crash? 01:54 blaise_ wtf? 01:54 blaise_ I don't understand 01:56 MrBlueEyes I'm on a tablet, and I'm on the IRC on my phone 01:56 MrBlueEyes Oh hey redblade. Sorry I haven't been on your server 01:57 blaise_ lol 01:57 MrBlueEyes What? 01:59 MrBlueEyes Brb 02:02 blaise_ yeah, there's no way that android client is stable enough to play 02:02 blaise_ lol 02:09 Sketch2 minetestmedia was fast 02:24 blaise_ was it? 02:24 blaise_ maybe they just don't have the mods I have 02:24 blaise_ or maybe they're just not fast anymore? 02:27 Sketch2 huh, I mean when I logged in 02:27 blaise_ to any server that uses it? 02:27 Sketch2 it was quick enough as I'd expect 02:27 blaise_ or my server? 02:28 blaise_ I don't even know how to find out what mods they support... I tried to look at their website and it just forwarded me to the forums topic about using their media server.. 02:29 Sketch2 I thought your stuff gets uploaded to their site when you register 02:29 blaise_ register to what? 02:29 Sketch2 then users can get it from them, instead of lagging your game 02:29 blaise_ what site? 02:29 blaise_ it literally says to just add their server to the minetest.conf 02:29 blaise_ and to request for mods to be added 02:30 Sketch2 yea, I think it's all automatic 02:30 blaise_ but no list of mods already added 02:30 Sketch2 it sorta logs in once to your server to get everything 02:30 blaise_ eh, no.. 02:30 blaise_ I don't think it does 02:31 Sketch2 dunno, I thought that's what the point of it was 02:32 Sketch2 maybe it's just some of 'em then 02:32 Sketch2 default ones or whatnot 02:32 blaise_ they also state that what ever they don't have, the client will automagicly revert to downloading from the server it's connecting to 02:32 Sketch2 if you wanna shoot mice straight in the face with a laser crossbow- https://github.com/doyousketch2/paradroid_mt 02:32 blaise_ but the forum topic seems dead 02:33 blaise_ last post was in january 2016 02:33 Sketch2 nowhere near done, but having a blast developing it 02:34 Sketch2 gonna get a snack, then crash out to something simple on YouTube 02:34 blaise_ lol 02:34 blaise_ no pluto tv? 02:35 Sketch2 dunno what that is 02:35 blaise_ it's a free streaming service 02:35 blaise_ it's not terrible.. 02:35 blaise_ on occasion they have good movies.. 02:37 blaise_ they have an android app, and a chrome plugin 02:37 blaise_ I believe they even have a windows pc client too but I don't use it 02:38 blaise_ they have cnet, IGN 02:38 blaise_ lots of news networks that everyone has heard of 02:38 blaise_ bunches of movie networks 02:38 blaise_ and a rather long list of on demand feeds you can watch 02:39 blaise_ pretty impressive for a free service.. 02:49 Sketch2 oh wow, heh. do they stream SNL? 02:51 blaise_ idk.. 02:51 blaise_ maybe 02:55 blaise_ what is snl? 02:55 Sketch2 Saturday Night Live 02:56 blaise_ it probably airs on one of the channels 03:33 MrBlueEyes Sooo 03:46 blaise_ ? 03:48 MrBlueEyes I'm bored 03:48 blaise_ join my server? 03:48 blaise_ there are TONS of things to do 03:49 blaise_ you could go hunting, 03:49 blaise_ you could go kill mobs 03:49 blaise_ you could farm 03:49 blaise_ build a house 03:49 blaise_ an accurate to appearance house, thanks to homedecor mod 03:49 blaise_ =D 03:50 blaise_ you can have a bbq, or bake cakes 03:50 blaise_ and you could create a store to sell your goods in 04:21 blaise_ wow 04:22 blaise_ guess you're not that bored, eh? 06:34 blaise_ hrmm 06:35 blaise_ so the guy that wrote villagers mod states that he wants a lightweight multiplayer interactive npc experience 06:35 blaise_ yet the damn thing crashes all over the place 06:36 blaise_ so you do, interact on a multiplayer level.. when you try to talk to the villagers, it crashes the server and kicks everyone off 06:36 blaise_ lol 06:36 blaise_ awesome 06:39 lumberJ well it does give a fair warning on the forum page that it is wip 06:40 lumberJ and to expect crashes 06:48 blaise_ yeah 06:48 blaise_ I think he died or something though 06:49 blaise_ going on 6 months since last commit 06:49 lumberJ or perhaps he got a life :P 06:50 blaise_ paramat: hello 06:50 blaise_ a life? 06:50 lumberJ hello paramat 06:50 lumberJ a real life (not modding) 06:50 blaise_ so you're saying no one that does anything with minecraft has a life? 06:50 lumberJ i'm joking of course 06:50 blaise_ oh 06:51 blaise_ I suppose life does happen 06:51 lumberJ hence the :P emoji 06:51 lumberJ indeed 06:51 blaise_ for all we know, he could be in prison 06:53 blaise_ or completely overwhelmed by the octomom 09:39 Sketch2 'ello 09:50 blaise_ wat 09:50 blaise_ lol 09:50 * blaise_ attaches an angry badger to the side of Sketch2 09:51 * blaise_ stabs Sketch2 with a sharpened frozen hotdog 09:51 Sketch2 o_O 09:51 blaise_ lol 09:52 blaise_ Sketch2: what's up? 09:52 Sketch2 not much, just waking up 09:52 blaise_ you slept? 09:52 blaise_ I 09:52 blaise_ how? 09:53 Sketch2 I only sleep a couple hours at a time 09:53 blaise_ I've been playing with zsh since, idk.. 09:53 blaise_ still couldn't get it the way I wanted it 09:54 blaise_ I should probably get some sleep, but I forgot 09:54 blaise_ it's saturday morning though, right? 09:54 Sketch2 what's zsh? the people 09:54 Sketch2 soilent green? 09:54 blaise_ lol 09:55 blaise_ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z_shell 09:56 blaise_ bash is ok 09:57 blaise_ I get tired of it sometimes though and I need a change 09:57 Sketch2 I think I've used it in the past, there's a bunch of 'em. fish was one 09:57 blaise_ fish is, 09:57 * blaise_ stabs Sketch2 with another hotdog just for mentioning fish 09:58 * twoelk heads to the logs 10:02 blaise_ becuase two elk, are better than one. 10:03 Sketch2 brings out the possibilities 10:04 Sketch2 of babies or battles, or both, as the case may be 10:13 * twoelk listens as E.S.Posthumus music highlights the limits of his current sound setup :-( 10:41 Vapalus what does minetest.get_node_timer(pos):start(1.0) do exactly? 10:48 Sketch2 it's for intermittent stuff- http://dev.minetest.net/NodeTimerRef 10:48 Sketch2 say like mesecons 10:50 Sketch2 in that case, it stars a timer which will trigger the node's on_timer function after 1 second 10:53 Vapalus Ah, and with minetest.get_node_timer(pos):start(2.0) it's 2 seconds, and with minetest.get_node_timer(pos):start(0.0001) its ASAP 10:53 Vapalus thanks 10:53 Sketch2 lols, yep. guess so 12:05 paramat does anyone know of a mod that is an example of how to get positions of decorations from 'gennotify'? 12:10 Vapalus You mean, something like "check the whole server and tell me where objects of this kind are"? 12:11 Vapalus Or more like "check the volume and count/store objects of this kind" 12:11 Shara Vapalus: it would be to get the pos of things placed by register_decoration on mapgen 12:12 paramat 'gennotify' returns positions of certian structures for the mapchunk just generated 12:12 paramat *certain 12:21 Vapalus ah, so "gennotify" is actually a function, sorry, misread that. 12:21 Vapalus event 12:22 Sketch2 line 620 or thereabouts has 'detect treasure' https://github.com/duane-r/booty/blob/master/init.lua 12:23 Sketch2 I don't think that's exactly what you're looking for, but it sounds close 12:24 Shara Looked at that last night 12:25 Sketch2 do you mean for the whole map, after it's been generated? 12:25 Shara No 12:25 Sketch2 or as it occurs? 12:25 Shara The first time something is placed on the map 12:25 Sketch2 ok yeah, that's how it's supposed to be 12:26 Shara So if you are using register_decoration to placed... let's say a flower, the goal is to get the pos of each flower placed the first time a mapblock is generated 12:26 Shara place* 12:26 Shara The aim is actually to trigger a node timer 12:28 Sketch2 why is it github's search sux? 12:29 Shara because github 12:29 Sketch2 yeah, they got a few issues 12:30 Sketch2 like the web-upload only allows 100 items at a time 12:30 Sketch2 and it ignores the 'gitignore' 12:31 Sketch2 of all the people in the world, how could they miss it? that's like git 101. 12:32 Vapalus i just got register_abm, that's it. 12:33 Shara Definitely don't want an ABM for this 12:34 Vapalus no, i generate a whole new area 12:34 Vapalus replacing everything 12:36 Sketch2 you just want to know how to get it to pop-up the message when it generates something? 12:36 Sketch2 https://github.com/minetest-mods/loot/blob/master/dungeon.lua 12:36 Sketch2 that seems to be as basic as it gets 12:36 Shara That's "dungeon" 12:36 Shara Dungeon is easy 12:36 Shara Decoration doesn't work like that 12:37 Sketch2 oh, no? I thought they were 12:37 Shara Need an example where set_gen_notify specifically gives "decoration" 12:37 Sketch2 ok, I'll look a bit more 12:37 Shara Thank you. I spent quite some time looking for things already but not having much luck 12:38 Shara Decorations seem to have an id that other things don't for this... so it's probably different somehow 12:39 Sketch2 saw this on Reddit earlier today, seems kinda relevant right now- https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/7zu1jh/what_people_think_programming_is_vs_how_it/ 13:09 Sketch2 I have a feeling minetest.register_decoration() only takes the parameters requested 13:10 Sketch2 and you can't redefine it, cuz it's underlying C++ code 13:10 Shara This isn't about redefining register_decoration 13:10 Sketch2 you want a printout when the function fires 13:11 Sketch2 but the function doesn't give the option 13:11 Shara which should already be possible to capture through gennotiy 13:11 Shara gennotify* 13:11 Shara It doesn't need to be in register_decoration 13:12 Shara The docs already claim "decoration" can be captured by gennotify 13:13 Shara So in theory you'd use set_gen_notify then get_mapgen_object("gennotify") within register_on_generated 13:13 Shara "in theory" 13:26 Sketch2 so yea, just like dungeon.lua, but it doesn't huh? 13:27 Shara Pretty much 13:27 Shara I tested using: minetest.set_gen_notify({decoration = true, dungeon = true}) 13:27 Shara Then dumping gennotify did give me dungeon positions, but not decoration 13:27 Shara (this was with dungeon_loot mod disabled) 13:28 Sketch2 do you need name in quotes? minetest.set_gen_notify("dungeon") 13:29 Sketch2 "key" = value 13:29 Shara Since dungeon worked just liek that... I assume not, but I tried anyway 13:33 Sketch2 is 'decoration' a variable name that's being used elsewhere in the MT code? maybe try naming it 'deco1' instead 13:36 Shara It says to use "decoration" in the docs 13:36 Shara If I put deco1 instead, I'd be making up something 13:37 Shara gennotify is certainly not going to hold some random thing I made up 13:37 Sketch2 well yea, 'cuz you'd want your instance unique, I thought, but maybe I'm wrong on that point 13:38 Shara well, there's the id I mentioned, but no idea what to do with it... which is why we were hoping for an example 13:38 Sketch2 like 'dungeon' just has a made up name, so long as it's consistent where referenced 13:39 Shara Uhh, no, that's actually the name you're meant to use, which is why gennotify has it 13:39 Shara This isn't about setting some random variable name 13:40 Shara But anyway, will play around with it some more another time. 13:40 ravel981 hi all 13:41 ravel981 i'm trying to configure a minetest server 13:41 ravel981 do you have please a working conf file maybe ? 13:43 Shara Tried reading through: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/minetest.conf.example ? 13:44 Shara What your file should look like depends on a lot of things 13:45 ravel981 i'd like to have a minetest closed to minecraft way 13:45 Shara I can't help with that since I've never played minecraft 13:45 Vapalus I don't think LUA needs quotes 13:45 ravel981 thanks it workd (firewall problem) 13:45 Shara :) 13:46 Vapalus at least not there 13:46 Shara Vapalus: look here: https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/blob/master/mods/dungeon_loot/mapgen.lua 13:46 Shara This is in MTG, so this formatting is correct 13:47 Shara And I've already said it does get me dungeon information when done this way 13:50 Sketch2 oh yea, guess Lua doesn't need quotes. I always confuse it with Python. Pretty sure over there ya do 13:53 Vapalus in python, yes 13:55 reber hey all 13:55 reber hi ravel981 :) 13:55 reber how to access the console please ? 13:56 reber admin console of my minetest server 13:57 reber my server is started with systemctl start ... 13:57 Sketch2 windows machine? 13:58 Sketch2 systemctl sounds linux'y -can't ya just start it from a console? 14:00 reber Sketch2, linux 14:00 reber Sketch2, no i want to start it with systemctl 14:01 reber https://wiki.minetest.net/Setting_up_a_server/Debian 14:01 reber ^ like that 14:01 reber but i'd like to access to the console once it's started 14:02 Sketch2 I know in windows you can edit minetest.conf enable_console = true 14:02 Sketch2 I don't know if it has an effect in linux 14:02 Sketch2 you could try 14:05 Sketch2 there might be a commandline flag 14:05 Sketch2 or start it on another terminal, so you can switch to with with Ctrl-Alt-F1 or whatnot 14:06 Vapalus sudo apt-get install screen 14:07 Vapalus then run your server as console in screen 14:07 Vapalus enables you to manage your server 14:08 Vapalus pro: several servers as one user, in the same terminal 14:08 Sketch2 sounds good. I was thinking --default-standard-output=tty1 14:09 Vapalus too complicated i think 14:09 Sketch2 then switch back & forth with Ctrl-Alt-F1 or F7 14:09 Sketch2 I agree 14:09 Sketch2 if you can do it in a window, that's better 14:11 reber Vapalus, Sketch2 i'd really like to start it with systemctl and access to the console after that 14:11 Vapalus screen 14:11 reber I already have tmux 14:11 reber and i don't want to start it with it :/ 14:12 Vapalus why not 14:12 fireglow I don't think you can attach a --terminal to a running minetestserver 14:12 Vapalus just a curious question 14:12 reber sad 14:12 fireglow either start it with --terminal, or have systemd/runit/etc handle the process 14:14 reber and with the gui is it possible to access the console ? 14:15 reber (sounds a weird question ...but heh) 14:16 Vapalus reber, why not screen...? 14:16 Sketch2 admin of server can use certain chat commands that others can't 14:16 reber I don't know much about minetest, just admin it for the moment ;) 14:17 reber Vapalus, because it's far less clean than using the system to start/stop daemons 14:17 Sketch2 systemctl --default-standard-output=tty1 start minetest-server 14:17 Vapalus i run screen as a daemon 14:17 reber Vapalus, can you imagine running mail running inside a tmux/screen ? 14:17 reber Vapalus, can you imagine running apache running inside a tmux/screen ? 14:17 reber no. 14:17 Sketch2 then switch to it, or keep a second monitor view of it 14:18 Vapalus apache is not a game 14:18 Vapalus you don't run minetest as root i presume 14:19 reber Sketch2, thanks I will try that :) 14:19 reber that's a good idea 14:19 Sketch2 you might be able to view tty1 from another computer if need be, or your phone 14:19 reber yay good :) 14:21 Sketch2 Ctrl-Alt-F7 is your default desktop. remember that 14:21 reber thanks for you help / ideas 14:21 reber Sketch2, yay course :) 14:29 Vapalus ...i still don't get why you run something in an xserv terminal instead of a virtual terminal, but maybe that's just me being old 14:30 Vapalus and since servers normally don't have xserv, I'm not used to that 14:33 Sketch2 I dunno. I'd rather have it in a win as well 14:33 Sketch2 maybe he's a kid and trying to hide it in the background from his dad :P 15:36 Sketch2 reber, this might do if the other doesn't. sudo journalctl -f -u minetestserver it follows logs as they go 15:38 Sketch2 is there a dash between minetest-server? thought it was one word 16:32 Calinou Sketch2: the upstream binary, when compiled, is named minetestserver 16:32 Calinou the Debian package is minetest-server though 16:32 Sketch2 oh, I always compiled it 16:34 Sketch2 not a biggie. was just trying to do what he was talking about. can't recall ever running it through systemctl 16:36 Calinou I created a systemd service for my server 16:37 xerox123 https://i.imgur.com/IvvLzlm.png when trying to load bakedclay and stairsplus at the same time 16:37 Calinou https://paste.ee/p/lsgCC 16:44 Sketch2 xerox123, do you get diff' results if you set one to require the other, so they load in a diff' order? 16:44 xerox123 oh, didnt think about that 16:47 xerox123 Sketch2: do you mean add bakedclay into stairplus' depends.txt? 16:47 xerox123 or vice versa 16:48 Sketch2 yeah, but it looks like bakedclay is looking for stairs https://github.com/tenplus1/bakedclay/blob/master/depends.txt 16:48 Sketch2 does stairsplus give uh, what'dotheycallem... 16:48 Sketch2 where you rename stuff 16:49 Sketch2 aliases for stairs 16:51 xerox123 I think my issue is that moreblocks contains stairsplus and circular saw 16:52 xerox123 https://github.com/minetest-mods/moreblocks/blob/master/stairsplus/init.lua#L61 16:55 Sketch2 https://github.com/tenplus1/bakedclay/blob/master/init.lua line 45 if minetest.get_modpath("moreblocks") and stairsplus then 16:55 Sketch2 so it obviously knows what stairsplus is 16:56 Sketch2 can you just tell bakedclay to require stairsplus instead? 17:06 xerox123 seemed to create a loop lol 17:06 xerox123 2018-02-24 17:05:13: ERROR[Main]: mod "bakedclay" has unsatisfied dependencies: "stairsplus" 17:06 xerox123 2018-02-24 17:05:13: ERROR[Main]: mod "circularsaw" has unsatisfied dependencies: "stairsplus" 17:06 xerox123 2018-02-24 17:05:13: ERROR[Main]: mod "stairsplus" has unsatisfied dependencies: "bakedclay" 17:08 xerox123 this is just making me want to revert all the changes and go back to when it worked 17:10 Sketch2 woah, that's unexpected 17:15 Vapalus what comes round, comes round 17:15 Sketch2 who made moreblocks, that's a Calinou mod? any ideas how to resolve stairsplus? 17:15 Sketch2 which stairsplus is it, there's a couple aren't there? 17:16 Vapalus so circular dependencies are not possible - thats kinda good to know. 17:16 Sketch2 oh, it comes with it. backedclay is skewed 17:19 xerox123 I remember having both working just fine a while ago 17:25 Calinou stairsplus is part of moreblocks 17:31 xerox123 is there a way I can just take it out? 17:32 xerox123 because bakedclay doesnt seem to like it 17:32 xerox123 not even sure if that would fix it 17:35 Sketch2 maybe baked depends.txt should say stairs? 17:42 xerox123 let me try 17:46 xerox123 Sketch2: it works 17:46 xerox123 !! 17:47 xerox123 still can't cut bakedclay though 17:47 Sketch2 oh cool, that was truly just a guess. does the mod still do as expected? 17:47 xerox123 I see two circular saws in the inventory 17:47 Sketch2 eh. who made that one, tenplus1? 17:48 xerox123 yes 17:49 Sketch2 I'd find him on the forum, or post a comment on the github- https://github.com/tenplus1/bakedclay/issues 17:49 Sketch2 detail what happened, and see if he has any input 17:52 xerox123 ok 18:24 blaise lol 19:43 blaise Sketch2: you sleepin? 19:43 Vapalus almost 19:44 Vapalus sorry, wrong chat 19:44 Vapalus still, i got a question 19:44 Vapalus local nodetimer = minetest.get_node_timer(pos) --inevitable timer nodetimer:start(1.0) 19:44 Vapalus "nodetimer:start" is in another line 19:44 Vapalus that should trigger on_timer = tribikos_node_timer, 19:45 Vapalus right? 19:45 sfan5 eventually 19:46 Vapalus because for some reason, it ignores me 19:46 Vapalus normally only women ingore me... 19:46 sfan5 !api 19:46 MinetestBot Someone thinks you should read the API docs, please go to: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt 19:46 sfan5 should have more info 19:47 blaise how do we determin how much traction a digtron has, ? 20:38 Vapalus god, i'm stupid, i solved the timer problem I think 20:38 Vapalus I defined the nodetypes before I created the function 20:38 Vapalus bad vibes 20:42 honeybooboochild howdy y'all 20:42 honeybooboochild i just got done eatin my sgetti and need help makin mods 20:43 Vapalus first tip, don't drink and develop, that's how Windows Vista was made 20:43 honeybooboochild ain't nobody here? 20:43 blaise nope 20:44 blaise Vapalus: I thought that was Windows ME ? 20:44 honeybooboochild drink and develope is how my sister got done knocked up when she only 14 20:45 Vapalus isn't mine, i promise 20:45 honeybooboochild y'all developin? i done got my boobies when i was 5 20:45 honeybooboochild cause i'm fat 20:46 Vapalus dude, u aint got boobs, u got moobs 20:46 Sketch2 lols 20:46 Vapalus conversations like this (and lots of cocaine) are why I'm insane 20:47 honeybooboochild who want to host my server? 20:47 red-001 https://xkcd.com/323/ 20:47 red-001 I believe the technical term is "relevent xkcd" 20:47 honeybooboochild honeybooboo best server 20:47 BillyS heh 20:48 Vapalus that's how i got my girlfriend 20:49 Vapalus "I'm the best" 20:49 honeybooboochild shhoot 20:49 Vapalus that's it 20:49 honeybooboochild ain't nobody helpin me up in here 20:50 * red-001 wonders how long does it take for someone to realise no-one is going to host thier server 20:50 honeybooboochild someone done up and scan ports honeybooboochild 20:51 honeybooboochild wha da?! 20:52 Vapalus local pos2 = {x = pos.X, y = pos.Y + 1, z = pos.Z} 20:52 NathanS21 Who do you want to pay to host your server? Lots of sites exist for that. 20:52 honeybooboochild red, nobody will host? 20:52 Vapalus I think I goofed. 20:52 honeybooboochild nathan who do? 20:52 Vapalus just look at it. I goofed. 20:52 Sketch2 I'll host it, for a penny per second 20:52 NathanS21 The internet is full of hosting sites. just search for VPS 20:53 sfan5 Vapalus: that stuff is case sensitive, pos.X is not the same as pos.x 20:53 NathanS21 anything that can run a docker container could theoretically run Minetest 20:54 honeybooboochild i cant find good deal nathan, what you recommend good price and 4 gb mem? 20:54 Vapalus sfan5: I know. That's what I was talking about. 20:54 Vapalus One of those errors where you want to run into a chainsaw while laughing like a maniac. 20:54 NathanS21 I've never hosted a server, wouldn't know what a good price would be, look around, and see what is out there. 20:55 honeybooboochild there seem like some host are scammers 20:55 NathanS21 Well stay away from those. :) 20:56 honeybooboochild i read lowendbox review and dem some self post, fake review 20:56 honeybooboochild i hope some nerd will host for free 20:57 honeybooboochild they all got fast computers 20:57 NathanS21 uhh, not likely, and more than just a fast computer is needed to host a good server. 20:57 honeybooboochild thats why i came here, sooner or later only takes 1 nerd 20:58 red-001 no one is going to host your server 20:58 honeybooboochild honeybooboo server will be good 20:58 Vapalus Hm, are you american? 20:59 red-001 its an american ip 20:59 honeybooboochild maybe so red you ain't nobody momma 21:00 honeybooboochild yeah im usa as you already know mr port scannin monkey 21:00 red-001 can someone just kick this guy? 21:01 NathanS21 I think you mean girl.... 21:01 honeybooboochild i want my server hostin in russia 21:01 NathanS21 contact somebody in the Russian Mafia, they have resources. :D 21:01 Vapalus well, Trump wants America to be Russian, guess it fits 21:01 honeybooboochild kick me, why for? 21:01 Vapalus spam, begging 21:02 red-001 can someone just kick this member of the homo sapiens species that's using freenode webirc* 21:02 honeybooboochild nah trump aint all rissian lovin, done bombed them soilders 2 time 21:03 honeybooboochild i aint done it 21:04 honeybooboochild well then 21:08 red-045 hello Raven262 21:08 Raven262 Hello red 21:17 Vapalus ok, bye 23:05 MrBlueEyes Excuse me, anyone else having a problem with talking and moving on servers 23:11 sfan5 sounds like a server problem 23:12 Shara MrBlueEyes: is this the issue you were having on DL that Tommy reported to me? 23:13 Shara From what he said, no one else could duplicate it. 23:13 MrBlueEyes Yes Shara it is my account on DL 23:13 Shara I have no idea what could cause a single account to have issues like this 23:14 Shara Could you try and explain the issue as precisely as possible? 23:14 MrBlueEyes Idk ether it's making me angry, and yeah I'll explain what happened. 23:16 rubenwardy it's likely to be something with your internet connection, if it's only you 23:16 rubenwardy maybe a firewall or packet loss 23:16 Shara rubenwardy: from what I was told, it only happened on his main account, and not any time he used a different one 23:16 rubenwardy oh, odd 23:16 rubenwardy do you have anything large in your inventory? Like big books 23:16 Shara Yea... I don't even know where to start troubleshooting that 23:17 rubenwardy and mods which could be holding lots of data 23:17 rubenwardy or maybe near end of the world? 23:17 rubenwardy probably not any of those, but they're the only things I can think of 23:17 rubenwardy that could be different per player 23:17 Shara Well, if it's an edge of the world issue, he's on his own. I'm not helping anyone who pointlessly grew the mapsize :P 23:17 rubenwardy or privs 23:19 MrBlueEyes Me Darksoul, Seth06, and Slashstone where at Darksoul's shop, we where sitting in the chairs there then I went to climb down a ladder the my character wouldnt move from the spot, so Darksoul killed me which didn't work after a minute Tommy came and tried to fix it, he teleported me to different spots to see if it was the problem but wasn't, I tried my brothers account which worked fine, but the tried Mine. But still wouldn't 23:20 MrBlueEyes - I tried official and non-official apps as well 23:20 Shara And did you try both account son the same device? 23:21 MrBlueEyes Yes 23:21 MrBlueEyes And my brothers account worked 23:21 MrBlueEyes So I'm confused about it 23:21 Shara So yours simply couldn't move at all? 23:23 Lone-Star MrBlueEyes: this on a phone or tablet? 23:24 Shara MrBlueEyes: Have you sat down in a chair or something and then it wsa dug without you moving from it? 23:24 MrBlueEyes_ Whoops sorry, I didn't mean to leave 23:24 Shara was* 23:24 MrBlueEyes_ No, not when i glitched, after the fact Tommy and my friend Slash stone did 23:25 Shara All I can think of is the player being attached to something... 23:26 MrBlueEyes_ Okay, but after a while it started letting me move around, like a hour. But then it stopped working. 23:26 Shara Anyone have any ideas? 23:27 MrBlueEyes_ Could we try removing every priv from the account then adding them back 23:28 Shara That won't do anything 23:28 MrBlueEyes_ Okay I got nothing besides playing a new account 23:29 Shara Maybe someone can suggest something. I've alreayd checked to see if I can spot something with the account, but there's nothing obvious 23:29 MrBlueEyes_ Okay 23:29 Lone-Star is there a way to delete player data from server? 23:30 Lone-Star if the player data is corrupt, deleting it may help 23:31 Shara I don't see what could be wrong with the player data to randomly prevent movement 23:31 Shara And then only sometimes. 23:32 MrBlueEyes_ Imma go and hop on my account and try to figure it out 23:32 Shara Okay, sorry I don't have any other ideas for now 23:33 MrBlueEyes_ Okay I'll stay in the irc for a while 23:35 MrBlueEyes_ Okay my account is working for now