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Time Nick Message
00:00 blaise_ Sketch2: woah
00:00 blaise_ Sketch2: Vanessa's prefab mod is mia on github.. =(
00:01 VanessaE not my mod.
00:01 VanessaE Dan Duncombe's
00:01 VanessaE check cheapies mods, he has a fork too
00:03 blaise_ so which one should I run?
00:04 blaise_ I need prefab for roads.... https://github.com/cheapie/road
00:04 blaise_ wtf, where did the s go
00:04 Sketch2 https://github.com/cheapie/prefab_redo
00:04 blaise_ https://github.com/cheapie/roads
00:05 blaise_ doors is in default I thought
00:06 blaise_ Sketch2: is it not?
00:06 Sketch2 yea
00:07 Sketch2 in minetest_game  doors mod
00:20 blaise_ crap
00:21 blaise_ Sketch2: will I have to rename prefab_redo to prefab ?
00:21 Sketch2 ya know, I dunno.  could change the streets to require prefab_redo instead
00:22 Sketch2 you'd think that would already be in there
00:22 Sketch2 considering they were both forks by the same guy
00:23 blaise_ lmao
00:23 Sketch2 either-or, most likely
00:23 * blaise_ freaks right out
00:23 blaise_ git clone https://github.com/cheapie/roads.git
00:23 blaise_ oops
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00:34 blaise_ Sketch2: so, it's impossible to run that mod from a runinplace config
00:34 blaise_ unless I completely rewrite the mod
00:34 blaise_ that's awesome
00:34 Sketch2 which one?  prefab or roads?
00:37 blaise_ oh wait
00:37 blaise_ it's not like that at all
00:37 blaise_ 2018-02-24 00:35:32: ERROR[Main]: /home/blaise/minetest/bin/../mods/road​s/streetsmod/libs/smartfs/smartfs.lua: No such file or directory
00:38 blaise_ that smartfs dir in roads/streetsmod/libs/ is empty
00:38 blaise_ there's absolutly nothing in it
00:38 blaise_ lmao
00:39 blaise_ apparently it was a link to another git repo
00:39 blaise_ and it totally didn't follow it
00:40 blaise_ had to cd ~/minetest/mods/roads/streetsmod/libs/smartfs && git clone https://github.com/rubenwardy/smartfs.git .
00:40 blaise_ it works now
00:41 Sketch2 k, cool
00:41 blaise_ that should definitly be looked in to
00:41 Sketch2 I know sometimes git does tricks like 'submodule update' or something like that
00:42 blaise_ aparently smartfs is an entirely seperate mod that is supposed to be included in that mod pack
00:42 Sketch2 I don't recall the phrasing, but it's essentially like minetest_game
00:42 blaise_ but the way it is linked in, it just didn't work
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00:42 blaise_ as far as cloning the tree
00:43 blaise_ also, I got villagers and villages playing nicely now
00:43 blaise_ you can log in to my server and have a full on conversation with the npc's in the spawn village
00:43 blaise_ ;D
00:44 blaise_ that was a interesting endevour to say the least
00:44 blaise_ I don't usually mess with advanced ai
00:44 Sketch2 you can chit-chat with 'em?
00:45 blaise_ yeah
00:45 blaise_ some of them sell stuff
00:45 blaise_ some of them just talk and stuff
00:45 blaise_ some of them wanna try and breed with you
00:45 blaise_ lol
00:45 Sketch2 impressive
00:46 Sketch2 trying to get this code on GitHub
00:46 blaise_ which choad?
00:46 Sketch2 I suck at it, so it'll a min
00:46 Sketch2 huh?
00:46 Sketch2 oh code?
00:47 blaise_ oh, yeah.. sorry
00:47 Sketch2 uh, the craptastic code I got so far wor my paradroid subgame
00:47 blaise_ nice
00:48 Sketch2 it totally blows, but it's fun to run around at eye-level with mice and slaughter 'em with a crossbow
00:50 blaise_ thats kinda weird
00:56 MrBlueEyes Sorry I went afk
00:59 blaise_ me too
00:59 blaise_ lol
01:03 MrBlueEyes Lol
01:03 MrBlueEyes Btw how are you
01:04 blaise_ me?!
01:04 blaise_ I'm okay I guess
01:04 blaise_ MrBlueEyes: do I know you?
01:07 blaise_ MrBlueEyes: how are you?
01:07 MrBlueEyes blaise U play minetest yes, and what servers
01:07 blaise_ MrBlueEyes: further more, would you log on to my minetest server and tell me if you feel that the game is acting funny to you?
01:08 blaise_ I only play on maybe one other server than my own
01:08 MrBlueEyes It has been lagging a lot
01:08 blaise_ MrBlueEyes: my server?
01:08 MrBlueEyes What server?
01:08 blaise_ midnightsystems.net:30000
01:09 MrBlueEyes Hmm I think I played it hold on you online the server
01:09 Sketch2 I'll hop on for a few, this github thing can wait
01:10 blaise_ my drops mod for some reason isn't dropping
01:10 blaise_ lol
01:10 blaise_ everything else seems fairly normal though
01:11 blaise_ although now when I place stairs, they don't face the direction I'm expecting, now they only go down a specific way no matter what angle I place them at
01:12 blaise_ I believe it may have something to do with adding that roads modpack
01:14 MrBlueEyes Lol I'm banned from that server idk why tho
01:23 blaise_ I didn't ban anyone
01:23 blaise_ lol
01:23 blaise_ let me look
01:26 blaise_ MrBlueEyes: what was your game nick
01:32 blaise_ I never saw a login attempt in the game log
01:33 blaise_ not from you, not recently
01:34 blaise_ MrBlueEyes: I don't even see a MrBlueEyes in the users list
01:38 MrBlueEyes I tried to join.
01:40 blaise_ what is the name you are trying to log in with?
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01:41 blaise_ MrBlueEyes: Hello?!
01:41 MrBlueEyes MrBlueEyes
01:41 blaise_ you're not in the userlist at all
01:41 blaise_ you can't be banned
01:42 MrBlueEyes Sorry km on Dark Lands helping someone
01:43 blaise_ the only way you are being refused connection is if you hit my imaps, pop3s, or ssh ports too many times with a bad password.. in which case sshguard would automagicly add your ip to the blacklist
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01:43 blaise_ ip's in the blacklist expire after 24 hours
01:44 blaise_ the next time that ip ends up blacklisted it's two weeks
01:44 MrBlueEyes O.o
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01:45 blaise_ if you end up in the blacklist the third time it's permablacklisted and your ip is forwarded to several lists containing ip addresses that do continuous ssl auth attacks
01:45 blaise_ but sshguard doesn't monitor port 30000
01:45 blaise_ and to my knolege minetest doesnt use ssl
01:46 MrBlueEyes Okay imma find your server
01:47 blaise_ you don't have to find it, you already know the address to it
01:47 blaise_ all I did was install sshguard and snort
01:48 MrBlueEyes I figured it out ik what I did
01:48 MrBlueEyes Logging in
01:48 blaise_ sshguard handles all the temp stuff while snort handles long term.. snort also is what forwards offending ip addresses to other sites that have larger lists of attacking ip addresses so people can protect themselves from attackers
01:48 blaise_ ah
01:48 MrBlueEyes Okay
01:48 blaise_ what did you do?
01:49 blaise_ I don't believe you were trying to log in to my server
01:49 blaise_ lol
01:49 MrBlueEyes midnightsystems.net:30000.   <---- instead of that I put midnightsystem.jet:30000
01:49 blaise_ ah
01:49 blaise_ lmao
01:50 MrBlueEyes I agree XD
01:50 MrBlueEyes It's loading so slow DX
01:51 blaise_ sorry
01:51 blaise_ it's a pretty fast server, idk
01:51 MrBlueEyes It's okay and k
01:51 MrBlueEyes U online
01:52 blaise_ remote_media = http://minetestmedia.foo-projects.org/
01:52 blaise_ I have that in minetest.conf to try and make media load faster
01:52 MrBlueEyes K
01:52 blaise_ but if their server is slow then maybe I should remove it
01:53 MrBlueEyes And there we go I crashed
01:53 MrBlueEyes DX
01:53 blaise_ how did you crash?
01:54 blaise_ wtf?
01:54 blaise_ I don't understand
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01:56 MrBlueEyes I'm on a tablet, and I'm on the IRC on my phone
01:56 MrBlueEyes Oh hey redblade. Sorry I haven't been on your server
01:57 blaise_ lol
01:57 MrBlueEyes What?
01:59 MrBlueEyes Brb
02:02 blaise_ yeah, there's no way that android client is stable enough to play
02:02 blaise_ lol
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02:09 Sketch2 minetestmedia was fast
02:24 blaise_ was it?
02:24 blaise_ maybe they just don't have the mods I have
02:24 blaise_ or maybe they're just not fast anymore?
02:27 Sketch2 huh, I mean when I logged in
02:27 blaise_ to any server that uses it?
02:27 Sketch2 it was quick enough as I'd expect
02:27 blaise_ or my server?
02:28 blaise_ I don't even know how to find out what mods they support... I tried to look at their website and it just forwarded me to the forums topic about using their media server..
02:29 Sketch2 I thought your stuff gets uploaded to their site when you register
02:29 blaise_ register to what?
02:29 Sketch2 then users can get it from them, instead of lagging your game
02:29 blaise_ what site?
02:29 blaise_ it literally says to just add their server to the minetest.conf
02:29 blaise_ and to request for mods to be added
02:30 Sketch2 yea, I think it's all automatic
02:30 blaise_ but no list of mods already added
02:30 Sketch2 it sorta logs in once to your server to get everything
02:30 blaise_ eh, no..
02:30 blaise_ I don't think it does
02:31 Sketch2 dunno, I thought that's what the point of it was
02:32 Sketch2 maybe it's just some of 'em then
02:32 Sketch2 default ones or whatnot
02:32 blaise_ they also state that what ever they don't have, the client will automagicly revert to downloading from the server it's connecting to
02:32 Sketch2 if you wanna shoot mice straight in the face with a laser crossbow-   https://github.com/doyousketch2/paradroid_mt
02:32 blaise_ but the forum topic seems dead
02:33 blaise_ last post was in january 2016
02:33 Sketch2 nowhere near done, but having a blast developing it
02:34 Sketch2 gonna get a snack, then crash out to something simple on YouTube
02:34 blaise_ lol
02:34 blaise_ no pluto tv?
02:35 Sketch2 dunno what that is
02:35 blaise_ it's a free streaming service
02:35 blaise_ it's not terrible..
02:35 blaise_ on occasion they have good movies..
02:37 blaise_ they have an android app, and a chrome plugin
02:37 blaise_ I believe they even have a windows pc client too but I don't use it
02:38 blaise_ they have cnet, IGN
02:38 blaise_ lots of news networks that everyone has heard of
02:38 blaise_ bunches of movie networks
02:38 blaise_ and a rather long list of on demand feeds you can watch
02:39 blaise_ pretty impressive for a free service..
02:49 Sketch2 oh wow, heh.  do they stream SNL?
02:51 blaise_ idk..
02:51 blaise_ maybe
02:55 blaise_ what is snl?
02:55 Sketch2 Saturday Night Live
02:56 blaise_ it probably airs on one of the channels
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03:33 MrBlueEyes Sooo
03:46 blaise_ ?
03:48 MrBlueEyes I'm bored
03:48 blaise_ join my server?
03:48 blaise_ there are TONS of things to do
03:49 blaise_ you could go hunting,
03:49 blaise_ you could go kill mobs
03:49 blaise_ you could farm
03:49 blaise_ build a house
03:49 blaise_ an accurate to appearance house, thanks to homedecor mod
03:49 blaise_ =D
03:50 blaise_ you can have a bbq, or bake cakes
03:50 blaise_ and you could create a store to sell your goods in
04:21 blaise_ wow
04:22 blaise_ guess you're not that bored, eh?
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06:34 blaise_ hrmm
06:35 blaise_ so the guy that wrote villagers mod states that he wants a lightweight multiplayer interactive npc experience
06:35 blaise_ yet the damn thing crashes all over the place
06:36 blaise_ so you do, interact on a multiplayer level.. when you try to talk to the villagers, it crashes the server and kicks everyone off
06:36 blaise_ lol
06:36 blaise_ awesome
06:39 lumberJ well it does give a fair warning on the forum page that it is wip
06:40 lumberJ and to expect crashes
06:48 blaise_ yeah
06:48 blaise_ I think he died or something though
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06:49 blaise_ going on 6 months since last commit
06:49 lumberJ or perhaps he got a life :P
06:50 blaise_ paramat: hello
06:50 blaise_ a life?
06:50 lumberJ hello paramat
06:50 lumberJ a real life (not modding)
06:50 blaise_ so you're saying no one that does anything with minecraft has a life?
06:50 lumberJ i'm joking of course
06:50 blaise_ oh
06:51 blaise_ I suppose life does happen
06:51 lumberJ hence the :P emoji
06:51 lumberJ indeed
06:51 blaise_ for all we know, he could be in prison
06:53 blaise_ or completely overwhelmed by the octomom
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09:39 Sketch2 'ello
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09:50 blaise_ wat
09:50 blaise_ lol
09:50 * blaise_ attaches an angry badger to the side of Sketch2
09:51 * blaise_ stabs Sketch2 with a sharpened frozen hotdog
09:51 Sketch2 o_O
09:51 blaise_ lol
09:52 blaise_ Sketch2: what's up?
09:52 Sketch2 not much, just waking up
09:52 blaise_ you slept?
09:52 blaise_ I
09:52 blaise_ how?
09:53 Sketch2 I only sleep a couple hours at a time
09:53 blaise_ I've been playing with zsh since, idk..
09:53 blaise_ still couldn't get it the way I wanted it
09:54 blaise_ I should probably get some sleep, but I forgot
09:54 blaise_ it's saturday morning though, right?
09:54 Sketch2 what's zsh?  the people
09:54 Sketch2 soilent green?
09:54 blaise_ lol
09:55 blaise_ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z_shell
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09:56 blaise_ bash is ok
09:57 blaise_ I get tired of it sometimes though and I need a change
09:57 Sketch2 I think I've used it in the past, there's a bunch of 'em.  fish was one
09:57 blaise_ fish is,
09:57 * blaise_ stabs Sketch2 with another hotdog just for mentioning fish
09:58 * twoelk heads to the logs
10:02 blaise_ becuase two elk, are better than one.
10:03 Sketch2 brings out the possibilities
10:04 Sketch2 of babies or battles, or both, as the case may be
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10:13 * twoelk listens as E.S.Posthumus music highlights the limits of his current sound setup :-(
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10:41 Vapalus what does minetest.get_node_timer(pos):start(1.0) do exactly?
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10:48 Sketch2 it's for intermittent stuff-  http://dev.minetest.net/NodeTimerRef
10:48 Sketch2 say like mesecons
10:50 Sketch2 in that case, it stars a timer which will trigger the node's on_timer function after 1 second
10:53 Vapalus Ah, and with minetest.get_node_timer(pos):start(2.0) it's 2 seconds, and with minetest.get_node_timer(pos):start(0.0001) its ASAP
10:53 Vapalus thanks
10:53 Sketch2 lols, yep.  guess so
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12:05 paramat does anyone know of a mod that is an example of how to get positions of decorations from 'gennotify'?
12:10 Vapalus You mean, something like "check the whole server and tell me where objects of this kind are"?
12:11 Vapalus Or more like "check the volume and count/store objects of this kind"
12:11 Shara Vapalus: it would be to get the pos of things placed by register_decoration on mapgen
12:12 paramat 'gennotify' returns positions of certian structures for the mapchunk just generated
12:12 paramat *certain
12:21 Vapalus ah, so "gennotify" is actually a function, sorry, misread that.
12:21 Vapalus event
12:22 Sketch2 line 620 or thereabouts has 'detect treasure'  https://github.com/duane-r/​booty/blob/master/init.lua
12:23 Sketch2 I don't think that's exactly what you're looking for, but it sounds close
12:24 Shara Looked at that last night
12:25 Sketch2 do you mean for the whole map, after it's been generated?
12:25 Shara No
12:25 Sketch2 or as it occurs?
12:25 Shara The first time something is placed on the map
12:25 Sketch2 ok yeah, that's how it's supposed to be
12:26 Shara So if you are using register_decoration to placed... let's say a flower, the goal is to get the pos of each flower placed the first time a mapblock is generated
12:26 Shara place*
12:26 Shara The aim is actually to trigger a node timer
12:28 Sketch2 why is it github's search sux?
12:29 Shara because github
12:29 Sketch2 yeah, they got a few issues
12:30 Sketch2 like the web-upload only allows 100 items at a time
12:30 Sketch2 and it ignores the 'gitignore'
12:31 Sketch2 of all the people in the world, how could they miss it?  that's like git 101.
12:32 Vapalus i just got register_abm, that's it.
12:33 Shara Definitely don't want an ABM for this
12:34 Vapalus no, i generate a whole new area
12:34 Vapalus replacing everything
12:36 Sketch2 you just want to know how to get it to pop-up the message when it generates something?
12:36 Sketch2 https://github.com/minetest-mod​s/loot/blob/master/dungeon.lua
12:36 Sketch2 that seems to be as basic as it gets
12:36 Shara That's "dungeon"
12:36 Shara Dungeon is easy
12:36 Shara Decoration doesn't work like that
12:37 Sketch2 oh, no?  I thought they were
12:37 Shara Need an example where set_gen_notify specifically gives "decoration"
12:37 Sketch2 ok, I'll look a bit more
12:37 Shara Thank you. I spent quite some time looking for things already but not having much luck
12:38 Shara Decorations seem to have an id that other things don't for this... so it's probably different somehow
12:39 Sketch2 saw this on Reddit earlier today, seems kinda relevant right now-  https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/7zu1j​h/what_people_think_programming_is_vs_how_it/
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13:09 Sketch2 I have a feeling  minetest.register_decoration()  only takes the parameters requested
13:10 Sketch2 and you can't redefine it, cuz it's underlying C++ code
13:10 Shara This isn't about redefining register_decoration
13:10 Sketch2 you want a printout when the function fires
13:11 Sketch2 but the function doesn't give the option
13:11 Shara which should already be possible to capture through gennotiy
13:11 Shara gennotify*
13:11 Shara It doesn't need to be in register_decoration
13:12 Shara The docs already claim "decoration" can be captured by gennotify
13:13 Shara So in theory you'd use set_gen_notify then get_mapgen_object("gennotify") within register_on_generated
13:13 Shara "in theory"
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13:26 Sketch2 so yea, just like dungeon.lua, but it doesn't huh?
13:27 Shara Pretty much
13:27 Shara I tested using: minetest.set_gen_notify({decoration = true, dungeon = true})
13:27 Shara Then dumping gennotify did give me dungeon positions, but not decoration
13:27 Shara (this was with dungeon_loot mod disabled)
13:28 Sketch2 do you need name in quotes?  minetest.set_gen_notify("dungeon")
13:29 Sketch2 "key" = value
13:29 Shara Since dungeon worked just liek that... I assume not, but I tried anyway
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13:33 Sketch2 is 'decoration' a variable name that's being used elsewhere in the MT code?  maybe try naming it 'deco1' instead
13:36 Shara It says to use "decoration" in the docs
13:36 Shara If I put deco1 instead, I'd be making up something
13:37 Shara gennotify is certainly not going to hold some random thing I made up
13:37 Sketch2 well yea, 'cuz you'd want your instance unique, I thought, but maybe I'm wrong on that point
13:38 Shara well, there's the id I mentioned, but no idea what to do with it... which is why we were hoping for an example
13:38 Sketch2 like 'dungeon' just has a made up name, so long as it's consistent where referenced
13:39 Shara Uhh, no, that's actually the name you're meant to use, which is why gennotify has it
13:39 Shara This isn't about setting some random variable name
13:40 Shara But anyway, will play around with it some more another time.
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13:40 ravel981 hi all
13:41 ravel981 i'm trying to configure a minetest server
13:41 ravel981 do you have please a working conf file maybe ?
13:43 Shara Tried reading through: https://github.com/minetest/minetes​t/blob/master/minetest.conf.example ?
13:44 Shara What your file should look like depends on a lot of things
13:45 ravel981 i'd like to have a minetest closed to minecraft way
13:45 Shara I can't help with that since I've never played minecraft
13:45 Vapalus I don't think LUA needs quotes
13:45 ravel981 thanks it workd (firewall problem)
13:45 Shara :)
13:46 Vapalus at least not there
13:46 Shara Vapalus: look here: https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game​/blob/master/mods/dungeon_loot/mapgen.lua
13:46 Shara This is in MTG, so this formatting is correct
13:47 Shara And I've already said it does get me dungeon information when done this way
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13:50 Sketch2 oh yea, guess Lua doesn't need quotes.  I always confuse it with Python.  Pretty sure over there ya do
13:53 Vapalus in python, yes
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13:55 reber hey all
13:55 reber hi ravel981 :)
13:55 reber how to access the console please ?
13:56 reber admin console of my minetest server
13:57 reber my server is started with systemctl start ...
13:57 Sketch2 windows machine?
13:58 Sketch2 systemctl sounds linux'y  -can't ya just start it from a console?
14:00 reber Sketch2, linux
14:00 reber Sketch2, no i want to start it with systemctl
14:01 reber https://wiki.minetest.net/​Setting_up_a_server/Debian
14:01 reber ^ like that
14:01 reber but i'd like to access to the console once it's started
14:02 Sketch2 I know in windows you can edit minetest.conf   enable_console = true
14:02 Sketch2 I don't know if it has an effect in linux
14:02 Sketch2 you could try
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14:05 Sketch2 there might be a commandline flag
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14:05 Sketch2 or start it on another terminal, so you can switch to with with Ctrl-Alt-F1 or whatnot
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14:06 Vapalus sudo apt-get install screen
14:07 Vapalus then run your server as console in screen
14:07 Vapalus enables you to manage your server
14:08 Vapalus pro: several servers as one user, in the same terminal
14:08 Sketch2 sounds good.  I was thinking   --default-standard-output=tty1
14:09 Vapalus too complicated i think
14:09 Sketch2 then switch back & forth with Ctrl-Alt-F1 or F7
14:09 Sketch2 I agree
14:09 Sketch2 if you can do it in a window, that's better
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14:11 reber Vapalus, Sketch2  i'd really like to start it with systemctl and access to the console after that
14:11 Vapalus screen
14:11 reber I already have tmux
14:11 reber and i don't want to start it with it :/
14:12 Vapalus why not
14:12 fireglow I don't think you can attach a --terminal to a running minetestserver
14:12 Vapalus just a curious question
14:12 reber sad
14:12 fireglow either start it with --terminal, or have systemd/runit/etc handle the process
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14:14 reber and with the gui is it possible to access the console ?
14:15 reber (sounds a weird question ...but  heh)
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14:16 Vapalus reber, why not screen...?
14:16 Sketch2 admin of server can use certain chat commands that others can't
14:16 reber I don't know much about minetest, just admin it for the moment ;)
14:17 reber Vapalus, because it's far less clean than using the system to start/stop daemons
14:17 Sketch2 systemctl --default-standard-output=tty1 start minetest-server
14:17 Vapalus i run screen as a daemon
14:17 reber Vapalus, can you imagine running mail running inside a tmux/screen ?
14:17 reber Vapalus, can you imagine running apache running inside a tmux/screen ?
14:17 reber no.
14:17 Sketch2 then switch to it, or keep a second monitor view of it
14:18 Vapalus apache is not a game
14:18 Vapalus you don't run minetest as root i presume
14:19 reber Sketch2, thanks I will try that :)
14:19 reber that's a good idea
14:19 Sketch2 you might be able to view tty1 from another computer if need be, or your phone
14:19 reber yay good :)
14:21 Sketch2 Ctrl-Alt-F7  is your default desktop.  remember that
14:21 reber thanks for you help / ideas
14:21 reber Sketch2, yay course :)
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14:29 Vapalus ...i still don't get why you run something in an xserv terminal instead of a virtual terminal, but maybe that's just me being old
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14:30 Vapalus and since servers normally don't have xserv, I'm not used to that
14:33 Sketch2 I dunno.  I'd rather have it in a win as well
14:33 Sketch2 maybe he's a kid and trying to hide it in the background from his dad :P
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15:36 Sketch2 reber, this might do if the other doesn't.    sudo journalctl -f -u minetestserver    it follows logs as they go
15:38 Sketch2 is there a dash between minetest-server?  thought it was one word
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16:32 Calinou Sketch2: the upstream binary, when compiled, is named minetestserver
16:32 Calinou the Debian package is minetest-server though
16:32 Sketch2 oh, I always compiled it
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16:34 Sketch2 not a biggie.  was just trying to do what he was talking about.  can't recall ever running it through systemctl
16:36 Calinou I created a systemd service for my server
16:37 xerox123 https://i.imgur.com/IvvLzlm.png when trying to load bakedclay and stairsplus at the same time
16:37 Calinou https://paste.ee/p/lsgCC
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16:44 Sketch2 xerox123, do you get diff' results if you set one to require the other, so they load in a diff' order?
16:44 xerox123 oh, didnt think about that
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16:47 xerox123 Sketch2: do you mean add bakedclay into stairplus' depends.txt?
16:47 xerox123 or vice versa
16:48 Sketch2 yeah, but it looks like bakedclay is looking for stairs   https://github.com/tenplus1/bak​edclay/blob/master/depends.txt
16:48 Sketch2 does stairsplus give uh, what'dotheycallem...
16:48 Sketch2 where you rename stuff
16:49 Sketch2 aliases for stairs
16:51 xerox123 I think my issue is that moreblocks contains stairsplus and circular saw
16:52 xerox123 https://github.com/minetest-mods/moreblo​cks/blob/master/stairsplus/init.lua#L61
16:55 Sketch2 https://github.com/tenplus1/b​akedclay/blob/master/init.lua    line 45    if minetest.get_modpath("moreblocks") and stairsplus then
16:55 Sketch2 so it obviously knows what stairsplus is
16:56 Sketch2 can you just tell bakedclay to require stairsplus instead?
17:06 xerox123 seemed to create a loop lol
17:06 xerox123 2018-02-24 17:05:13: ERROR[Main]: mod "bakedclay" has unsatisfied dependencies:  "stairsplus"
17:06 xerox123 2018-02-24 17:05:13: ERROR[Main]: mod "circularsaw" has unsatisfied dependencies:  "stairsplus"
17:06 xerox123 2018-02-24 17:05:13: ERROR[Main]: mod "stairsplus" has unsatisfied dependencies:  "bakedclay"
17:08 xerox123 this is just making me want to revert all the changes and go back to when it worked
17:10 Sketch2 woah, that's unexpected
17:15 Vapalus what comes round, comes round
17:15 Sketch2 who made moreblocks, that's a Calinou mod?  any ideas how to resolve stairsplus?
17:15 Sketch2 which stairsplus is it, there's a couple aren't there?
17:16 Vapalus so circular dependencies are not possible - thats kinda good to know.
17:16 Sketch2 oh, it comes with it.  backedclay is skewed
17:19 xerox123 I remember having both working just fine a while ago
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17:25 Calinou stairsplus is part of moreblocks
17:31 xerox123 is there a way I can just take it out?
17:32 xerox123 because bakedclay doesnt seem to like it
17:32 xerox123 not even sure if that would fix it
17:35 Sketch2 maybe baked  depends.txt  should say   stairs?
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17:42 xerox123 let me try
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17:46 xerox123 Sketch2: it works
17:46 xerox123 !!
17:47 xerox123 still can't cut bakedclay though
17:47 Sketch2 oh cool, that was truly just a guess.  does the mod still do as expected?
17:47 xerox123 I see two circular saws in the inventory
17:47 Sketch2 eh.  who made that one, tenplus1?
17:48 xerox123 yes
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17:49 Sketch2 I'd find him on the forum, or post a comment on the github-  https://github.com/tenplus1/bakedclay/issues
17:49 Sketch2 detail what happened, and see if he has any input
17:52 xerox123 ok
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18:24 blaise lol
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19:43 blaise Sketch2: you sleepin?
19:43 Vapalus almost
19:44 Vapalus sorry, wrong chat
19:44 Vapalus still, i got a question
19:44 Vapalus local nodetimer = minetest.get_node_timer(pos) --inevitable timer nodetimer:start(1.0)
19:44 Vapalus "nodetimer:start" is in another line
19:44 Vapalus that should trigger on_timer = tribikos_node_timer,
19:45 Vapalus right?
19:45 sfan5 eventually
19:46 Vapalus because for some reason, it ignores me
19:46 Vapalus normally only women ingore me...
19:46 sfan5 !api
19:46 MinetestBot Someone thinks you should read the API docs, please go to: https://github.com/minetest/mine​test/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt
19:46 sfan5 should have more info
19:47 blaise how do we determin how much traction a digtron has, ?
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20:38 Vapalus god, i'm stupid, i solved the timer problem I think
20:38 Vapalus I defined the nodetypes before I created the function
20:38 Vapalus bad vibes
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20:42 honeybooboochild howdy y'all
20:42 honeybooboochild i just got done eatin my sgetti and need help makin mods
20:43 Vapalus first tip, don't drink and develop, that's how Windows Vista was made
20:43 honeybooboochild ain't nobody here?
20:43 blaise nope
20:44 blaise Vapalus: I thought that was Windows ME ?
20:44 honeybooboochild drink and develope is how my sister got done knocked up when she only 14
20:45 Vapalus isn't mine, i promise
20:45 honeybooboochild y'all developin? i done got my boobies when i was 5
20:45 honeybooboochild cause i'm fat
20:46 Vapalus dude, u aint got boobs, u got moobs
20:46 Sketch2 lols
20:46 Vapalus conversations like this (and lots of cocaine) are why I'm insane
20:47 honeybooboochild who want to host my server?
20:47 red-001 https://xkcd.com/323/
20:47 red-001 I believe the technical term is "relevent xkcd"
20:47 honeybooboochild honeybooboo best server
20:47 BillyS heh
20:48 Vapalus that's how i got my girlfriend
20:49 Vapalus "I'm the best"
20:49 honeybooboochild shhoot
20:49 Vapalus that's it
20:49 honeybooboochild ain't nobody helpin me up in here
20:50 * red-001 wonders how long does it take for someone to realise no-one is going to host thier server
20:50 honeybooboochild someone done up and scan ports honeybooboochild
20:51 honeybooboochild wha da?!
20:52 Vapalus local pos2 = {x = pos.X, y = pos.Y + 1, z = pos.Z}
20:52 NathanS21 Who do you want to pay to host your server? Lots of sites exist for that.
20:52 honeybooboochild red, nobody will host?
20:52 Vapalus I think I goofed.
20:52 honeybooboochild nathan who do?
20:52 Vapalus just look at it. I goofed.
20:52 Sketch2 I'll host it, for a penny per second
20:52 NathanS21 The internet is full of hosting sites. just search for VPS
20:53 sfan5 Vapalus: that stuff is case sensitive, pos.X is not the same as pos.x
20:53 NathanS21 anything that can run a docker container could theoretically run Minetest
20:54 honeybooboochild i cant find good deal nathan, what you recommend good price and 4 gb mem?
20:54 Vapalus sfan5: I know. That's what I was talking about.
20:54 Vapalus One of those errors where you want to run into a chainsaw while laughing like a maniac.
20:54 NathanS21 I've never hosted a server, wouldn't know what a good price would be, look around, and see what is out there.
20:55 honeybooboochild there seem like some host are scammers
20:55 NathanS21 Well stay away from those. :)
20:56 honeybooboochild i read lowendbox review and dem some self post, fake review
20:56 honeybooboochild i hope some nerd will host for free
20:57 honeybooboochild they all got fast computers
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20:57 NathanS21 uhh, not likely, and more than just a fast computer is needed to host a good server.
20:57 honeybooboochild thats why i came here, sooner or later only takes 1 nerd
20:58 red-001 no one is going to host your server
20:58 honeybooboochild honeybooboo server will be good
20:58 Vapalus Hm, are you american?
20:59 red-001 its an american ip
20:59 honeybooboochild maybe so red you ain't nobody momma
21:00 honeybooboochild yeah im usa as you already know mr port scannin monkey
21:00 red-001 can someone just kick this guy?
21:01 NathanS21 I think you mean girl....
21:01 honeybooboochild i want my server hostin in russia
21:01 NathanS21 contact somebody in the Russian Mafia, they have resources. :D
21:01 Vapalus well, Trump wants America to be Russian, guess it fits
21:01 honeybooboochild kick me, why for?
21:01 Vapalus spam, begging
21:02 red-001 can someone just kick this member of the homo sapiens species that's using freenode webirc*
21:02 honeybooboochild nah trump aint all rissian lovin, done bombed them soilders 2 time
21:03 honeybooboochild i aint done it
21:04 honeybooboochild well then
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21:08 red-045 hello Raven262
21:08 Raven262 Hello red
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21:17 Vapalus ok, bye
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23:05 MrBlueEyes Excuse me, anyone else having a problem with talking and moving on servers
23:11 sfan5 sounds like a server problem
23:12 Shara MrBlueEyes: is this the issue you were having on DL that Tommy reported to me?
23:13 Shara From what he said, no one else could duplicate it.
23:13 MrBlueEyes Yes Shara it is my account on DL
23:13 Shara I have no idea what could cause a single account to have issues like this
23:14 Shara Could you try and explain the issue as precisely as possible?
23:14 MrBlueEyes Idk ether it's making me angry, and yeah I'll explain what happened.
23:16 rubenwardy it's likely to be something with your internet connection, if it's only you
23:16 rubenwardy maybe a firewall or packet loss
23:16 Shara rubenwardy: from what I was told, it only happened on his main account, and not any time he used a different one
23:16 rubenwardy oh, odd
23:16 rubenwardy do you have anything large in your inventory? Like big books
23:16 Shara Yea... I don't even know where to start troubleshooting that
23:17 rubenwardy and mods which could be holding lots of data
23:17 rubenwardy or maybe near end of the world?
23:17 rubenwardy probably not any of those, but they're the only things I can think of
23:17 rubenwardy that could be different per player
23:17 Shara Well, if it's an edge of the world issue, he's on his own. I'm not helping anyone who pointlessly grew the mapsize :P
23:17 rubenwardy or privs
23:19 MrBlueEyes Me Darksoul, Seth06, and Slashstone where at Darksoul's shop, we where sitting in the chairs there  then  I went to climb down a ladder the my character wouldnt move from the spot, so Darksoul killed me which didn't work after a minute Tommy came and tried to fix it, he teleported me to different spots to see if it was the problem but wasn't, I tried my brothers account which worked fine, but the tried Mine. But still wouldn't
23:20 MrBlueEyes - I tried official and non-official apps as well
23:20 Shara And did you try both account son the same device?
23:21 MrBlueEyes Yes
23:21 MrBlueEyes And my brothers account worked
23:21 MrBlueEyes So I'm confused about it
23:21 Shara So yours simply couldn't move at all?
23:23 Lone-Star MrBlueEyes: this on a phone or tablet?
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23:24 Shara MrBlueEyes: Have you sat down in a chair or something and then it wsa dug without you moving from it?
23:24 MrBlueEyes_ Whoops sorry, I didn't mean to leave
23:24 Shara was*
23:24 MrBlueEyes_ No, not when i glitched, after the fact Tommy and my friend Slash stone did
23:25 Shara All I can think of is the player being attached to something...
23:26 MrBlueEyes_ Okay, but after a while it started letting me move around,  like a hour. But then it stopped working.
23:26 Shara Anyone have any ideas?
23:27 MrBlueEyes_ Could we try removing every priv from the account then adding them back
23:28 Shara That won't do anything
23:28 MrBlueEyes_ Okay I got nothing besides playing a new account
23:29 Shara Maybe someone can suggest something. I've alreayd checked to see if I can spot something with the account, but there's nothing obvious
23:29 MrBlueEyes_ Okay
23:29 Lone-Star is there a way to delete player data from server?
23:30 Lone-Star if the player data is corrupt, deleting it may help
23:31 Shara I don't see  what could be wrong with the player data to randomly prevent movement
23:31 Shara And then only sometimes.
23:32 MrBlueEyes_ Imma go and hop on my account and try to figure it out
23:32 Shara Okay, sorry I don't have any other ideas for now
23:33 MrBlueEyes_ Okay I'll stay in the irc for a while
23:35 MrBlueEyes_ Okay my account is working for now
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