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00:08 Peppy I guess I solved my issue, it does not crash anymore and wear seems to work (needs more testing)
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00:34 LucasOne The minecraft texture pack -> minetest script works with bash for windows
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00:35 LucasOne I got really lucky and the pack I converted has a 99% score
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01:06 Peppy bye
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08:28 lumberJ lol minetest.chat_send_al
08:28 lumberJ who is this Al, anyway?
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10:46 AndroBuilder nobody an idea for helping me with the priv.area problem i posted before?
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14:34 red-001 whats the issue AndroBuilder?
14:35 AndroBuilder https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=13&amp​;t=5545&sid=1504659643dc6692f9fce3099c513d4f (last post on first page)
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14:42 Peppy hi
14:43 Peppy AndroBuilder : I remember I had trouble with this mod too, I had to stop the server then wipe privareas.txt then restart the server
14:44 AndroBuilder mhh
14:45 Peppy and I guess you don't have to modify on_enter / on_leave (the gui ask you the privs if I remember)
14:47 AndroBuilder what do you mean?
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14:48 Peppy no need to add "fly" in the code
14:48 Peppy the gui will ask you
14:48 Peppy (when you create the zone)
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14:53 AndroBuilder but i thought the zone is beeing created in the init.lua?
14:53 AndroBuilder how can i create one ingame?
14:55 Peppy there is a gui but it's been a long time since I tested this mod, I can't remenber very well
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14:56 Peppy try /privareas
14:56 AndroBuilder no gui in unified inventory
14:57 AndroBuilder ah ... "Data" ??? meaning?
14:58 AndroBuilder ah got it
14:58 AndroBuilder great ok it works easier than i thought it does :)
14:59 AndroBuilder i was beeing st***
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16:01 AndroBuilder how can i remove an privarea?
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16:20 muhdnurhidayat is calinou here?
16:20 muhdnurhidayat what should I reply to Hajo in minetest wiki, any ideas? o_o
16:20 muhdnurhidayat https://wiki.minetest.net/User_talk:H​ajo#Naming_of_images_uploaded_to_wiki
16:24 * twoelk looks at the amount of his last wiki activity and hides in shame
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16:27 muhdnurhidayat at least now Hajo (manually) moved his page from https://wiki.minetest.net/Turtle-Specs to https://wiki.minetest.net/Mo​ds/basic_robot/Turtle-Specs ... hmm...
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16:29 muhdnurhidayat but idk about the images he uploaded, since he said the original filename in his mod is numbered as such, should the images be renamed?
16:34 twoelk modname-underscore-filename?
16:35 twoelk oh, https://wiki.minetest.net/​Special:UncategorizedPages seems there's work for me again :-)
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16:36 muhdnurhidayat idk, isn't other mods has been uploading their images as `description or item name (mod name in bracket).extension`?
16:37 muhdnurhidayat looks like those uncategorized pages a mix of articles from Hajo and BirgitLachner... xD
16:39 twoelk yeah I keep adding categories to them, seems they wait for others to add categories :-(
16:39 twoelk oh dear https://wiki.minetest.net/index.php?title=Specia​l:UncategorizedFiles&limit=1000&offset=0
16:40 twoelk haven't sorted pictures for a long time :-O
16:41 muhdnurhidayat is it possible to add categories to the images during upload? (or we need to edit it afterwards?)
16:42 twoelk I thought there was but my memory might be mixing wikis
16:43 twoelk looking at that pictures page though one can see mod-item or item(mod) and other ways of naming pics
16:45 muhdnurhidayat yeah... I saw that... what would be the standard way to name the images?
16:54 muhdnurhidayat "19:22, 18 December 2016‎ Ph8jPf9M (Talk | contribs)‎ m . . (4,421 bytes) (+210)‎ . . (added naming images for mods style) (undo)"
16:54 muhdnurhidayat so Ph8jPf9M  is the one who wrote that in the guideline... lol
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16:56 muhdnurhidayat but from Ph8jPf9M's talkpage, it looks like MrIbby is the one who ask him to write in that format for images... :thinking:
17:05 twoelk maybe search how wuzzy handles stuff as he seems to be one of the few interested in formal stuff
17:06 twoelk hm, Calinou seems active in minetest-hub
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17:19 muhdnurhidayat from a glance through Wuzzy's file contribution, it seems Wuzzy only uploads images related to mtg and mt engine, and a few screenshots of mods... Wuzzy didn't upload any mod-specific individual item image yet...
17:19 Calinou hi :)
17:19 muhdnurhidayat hi :D
17:20 Calinou I can rename/delete files if needed
17:20 Calinou (I think even regular users can do this, not sure)
17:20 Calinou (at least renaming, that is)
17:20 Calinou (it may be called "Move")
17:20 muhdnurhidayat regular user could rename, that's for sure (yes it's move) but not delete afaik
17:21 Wuzzy hey Calinou. i wonder when the wiki registration will finally be fixed ... :/
17:21 Wuzzy because its been broken for years
17:22 muhdnurhidayat what should be the filename format for images of mods?
17:22 Calinou Wuzzy: I have no idea
17:22 Calinou plus, if fixing means "using reCAPTCHA", I'm not very sold on it
17:22 Calinou muhdnurhidayat: I don't know if there's an established standard, but "Block Name (Mod Name).png" sounds good to me
17:22 Wuzzy also
17:23 muhdnurhidayat btw, look at what Hajo named their files... :3
17:23 Wuzzy i left some requests on Main Page discussion. no reaction so far
17:24 Wuzzy Calinou: i can understand why you do not want reCAPTCHA
17:26 Wuzzy Calinou: so ... you basically said that wiki registration stays broken forever :-(  Look. i might not be around to fix the wiki forever and without new contributors, the wiki will eventually just wither and die
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17:27 Calinou Wuzzy: people can still ask for an account, plus I wouldn't expect a storm of new contributors if registrations were open again
17:28 Wuzzy thats not so obvious
17:28 Wuzzy the main page has zero indication on where you get an account. this is bad
17:29 Calinou I don't have server access, a simple antispam question (changed every few months) could be added but I can't do that
17:30 Wuzzy Calinou: at least put a link on the main page to the forum thread and/or an e-mail address to request accounts?
17:30 Calinou I guess, yeah
17:30 Wuzzy because i dont think everyone sees this particular forum thread or even knows that it exists
17:30 Wuzzy good
17:31 muhdnurhidayat actually the link to the thread is mentioned at Help:Contents (Wiki guidelines)...
17:31 muhdnurhidayat wiki guideline is linked from main page...
17:31 muhdnurhidayat so it's there, just hidden...
17:31 Wuzzy ...
17:31 Wuzzy that's not good enough
17:33 Calinou Wuzzy: I just added it
17:33 Calinou https://wiki.minetest.net/Main_Page
17:33 Wuzzy Perfect!
17:33 Wuzzy Suggested additions to the main page:
17:34 Wuzzy [[Map generator]], [[Biomes]], [[Objects]]
17:35 Wuzzy Calinou: hmmm. when was actually the last time you granted someone wiki access? :D
17:35 Calinou Wuzzy: today :P
17:36 Wuzzy ??
17:36 Calinou there was a recent request, I created the account
17:36 Calinou I didn't do so for the very old accounts because those users are probably not active anymore… I could do it if you want
17:36 Calinou they might even have forgot what they even asked for :P
17:36 Wuzzy ...
17:36 Wuzzy this makes the thread look bad
17:37 Wuzzy why shoudl anyone bother making request if you can see in the thread your request may not be honored for >6 months
17:39 Calinou ok, done
17:39 Calinou sorry :P
17:39 Wuzzy good
17:40 muhdnurhidayat btw, new account creation could be seen at https://wiki.minetest.net/Special:Log/newusers
17:40 Calinou yeah
17:40 Calinou or on Special:Recent hanges
17:40 Calinou Special:RecentChanges *
17:40 Wuzzy i wonder how these 4 people will react now
17:41 Wuzzy this will be funny if they still care about minetest :D
17:41 Calinou "is 0.5.0 out yet?" "uh. This is weirder than LinkedIn emails"
17:41 Calinou :D
17:42 Wuzzy okay. as long you're actively honoring the account requests, the wiki thing should be fine by now
17:42 Wuzzy thanks
17:44 muhdnurhidayat should Hajo's image filenames be left as is for now or it need to be renamed?
17:44 muhdnurhidayat https://wiki.minetest.net/index.php?names​pace=6&title=Special%3ARecentChanges
17:44 Wuzzy OMG
17:44 Wuzzy wow this is madness. No, you didn't!
17:45 Wuzzy so many files
17:45 Wuzzy well i'm not going to cleanup this mess :D
17:45 muhdnurhidayat the images are for basic_robot mod...
17:46 Wuzzy fine. but at least Hajo could have gotten the file names right because its a TON
17:46 muhdnurhidayat but Hojo didn't mention the mod name in filename (though Hajo mentioned it in description)
17:47 muhdnurhidayat Hojo replied that it is the actual filename in the mod itself
17:47 muhdnurhidayat https://wiki.minetest.net/User_talk:H​ajo#Naming_of_images_uploaded_to_wiki
17:47 muhdnurhidayat *Hajo
17:48 Wuzzy well that's just worse
17:48 Wuzzy because that violates another naming convention :D
17:49 Wuzzy i dont usually care that much about it but i really hate meaningless names like 123.png
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17:56 twoelk considering Hajo promotes his mods to be used in educational context we might need to point him to some standards
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17:57 Fixer Calinou: i feel 0.5.0 will be veeeeeeeeeery long release, and it will be justified
17:57 muhdnurhidayat yeah... I agree
17:58 Fixer it has to accept a lot of stuff, since it is breaking release
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19:52 derixithy Does anyone know about a mod that has chests that you could pickup (with items in it). I tried making my own with detached storage, but it seems more complicated then i anticipated.
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19:56 Krock derixithy, wrench. technic modpack
19:56 lumberJ derixithy, check out the dungeon loot mod in the dev version of minetest_game
19:59 H4mlet derixithy: I also suggest Everamzah's backpacks.
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20:00 derixithy Thanks
20:01 H4mlet you're welcome
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