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00:23 TheMCNAutoBot Hello all great folks!
00:33 ProfanedMcBane Hey
00:35 ProfanedMcBane So the player object's coordinate is where the eyes are?
00:35 ProfanedMcBane So 1.5 blocks above where they stand?
00:39 ProfanedMcBane btw I checked and didn't find anything
00:40 ProfanedMcBane has anyone did a mod that adds movement/platformer stuff like double jumps/walljumping/air dashing etc?
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00:50 haolez can anyone recommend a good subgame to host a server for some beginners? I would like to showcase the game
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01:36 ProfanedMcBane I take it things such as 'player:move_to' cannot be used in minetest.after?
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01:49 rubenwardy ProfanedMcBane: it can, but NEVER store the player variable
01:49 rubenwardy instead get the name, the get the player again in the after
01:49 rubenwardy minetest.after(1, function(name)
01:49 rubenwardy local player = minetest.get_player_by_name(name)
01:49 ProfanedMcBane aighto
01:50 rubenwardy --- stuff
01:50 rubenwardy end, player:get_player_name())
01:50 ProfanedMcBane had to do something diffrent anyway
01:54 ProfanedMcBane man my code is spaghetti in spiritual form
02:07 TheMCNAutoBot Wow, your not alone with that code
02:07 ProfanedMcBane Anyone got any tips for my airdash prototype? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rDNBTqCNe4
02:07 ProfanedMcBane No idea how to smoothly get from A to B
02:07 ProfanedMcBane right now it's just an extra function to do delayed move_to()s
02:08 ProfanedMcBane Also have no idea how to set the player's velocity to 0 during the dash, cause falling etc can cause a ton of stutter
02:08 ProfanedMcBane I already set gravity to 0.3~ during the dash to alleviate it a bit.
02:08 TheMCNAutoBot I am a heavy PHP programmer so LUA codng and Python programs look like chaos to me.
02:12 blaise is there any possible way to roll a database back without using the minetest server commands?
02:12 blaise something happened and the server crashes instantly on load without any indication as to why in the logs
02:25 blaise seems like such a shame to have to wipe the database and start over
02:32 TheMCNAutoBot Yes, this is the same problem that MyTekeGaming is encountering right now with mods like WorldEdit. We have an Alpha, Beta and then a release stream of minetest servers. YOur server may crash do to a permission problem. is your using Unix, Linux and if your using Windows the same may happen due to minetes Lua Not telling the server owner about these issues.
02:34 TheMCNAutoBot Yes! You may use SQLite3 the program in Linux or Unix to open the map database file and see where theproblem started.
02:36 TheMCNAutoBot Blaise, try to copy the map.sqlite file to a safe folder and then attempt to repair a malformatted file first.
02:37 blaise it's postgresql,
02:39 MinetestBot [git] paramat -> minetest/minetest_game: Coniferous litter: Improve textures ca81e9b https://git.io/vNxXH (2018-02-04T02:34:42Z)
02:39 MinetestBot [git] paramat -> minetest/minetest_game: Flower spread ABM: Optimise a587972 https://git.io/vNxXQ (2018-02-04T02:34:36Z)
02:41 blaise Even if I wanted to wipe the map, I don't know how
02:47 ProfanedMcBane Thank goodness coding in double jump is easy relative to my dodgy airdash
02:50 TheMCNAutoBot The map is seperated by three important things which often does NOT relate to minetest start up errors! Is this a minetestserver that is NOT starting up when you run from console, shortcut or a desktop launcher?
02:51 blaise it's initiated via init script on a headless virtual machine
02:51 blaise it's a dedicated server
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02:52 blaise I think I'm just going to have to change the world name
02:52 blaise till I figure out how to manipulate the pg_sql databse
02:53 rubenwardy what's the logs?
02:53 rubenwardy have you tried running with gdb?
02:53 blaise it shows no indication of a crash in the logs
02:53 blaise it looks like it starts up fine but it just isn't there
02:54 rubenwardy it'll probably be a segfault then, which you'll need to find out why from gdb
02:54 TheMCNAutoBot Okay! Does this .sh script have a change directory "cd /.minetest/" --gameid/--world/--worldname arguments. If you are running a minetest server for redis(HiRes) or pg_sql(PostgreSQL) you must check your "world.mt" file so you can show it how to connect to the database.
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02:58 blaise rubenwardy: I'm merging gdb now
02:59 blaise TheMCNAutoBot: the openrc init scripts are rather complex, and I don't believe it would benifit anyone by explaining to you how postgresql work
02:59 TheMCNAutoBot blaise example the world.mt file should contain backend = pgsql, pgsql_address = 127.0.0.1 and pgsql_port = (database server port) similiar to how redis uses the world.mt file.
03:00 blaise TheMCNAutoBot: yeah, I'm aware
03:00 blaise am I being trolled by a bot?
03:00 TheMCNAutoBot I am not a bot.
03:01 blaise you have bot in your nic
03:01 TheMCNAutoBot I run three minetest servers and you mention a map file corruption. Correct?
03:02 blaise no, I mention that the server segfaults and the logs don't indicate why
03:02 TheMCNAutoBot Wow, that is correct so let a human not attempt to help someone asking for help. Have a good weekend
03:03 blaise TheMCNAutoBot: goodbye
03:03 blaise rubenwardy: I'll run a backtrace on minetestserver with gdb as soon as it's done compiling....
03:04 blaise I didn't have gdb on that server becuase I didn't think I would need it...
03:04 rubenwardy coolio
03:04 rubenwardy also, > compiling gdb
03:04 rubenwardy not   sudo apt install build-essential
03:04 rubenwardy which distro?
03:04 blaise funtoo
03:04 rubenwardy ah, I see
03:04 rubenwardy legit
03:05 blaise I rent a funtoo container from daniel to run my minetest server on to help contibute to the funtoo efforts..
03:09 blaise I also run funtoo on all my computers too
03:17 MinetestBot [git] juhdanad -> minetest/minetest: Remove unused light updating code 735fc2a https://git.io/vNx17 (2018-02-04T03:16:45Z)
03:17 blaise omg
03:17 blaise it's not going to work because minetest wasn't compiled with debugging symbols enabled..
03:18 blaise it's minetest 0.4.16 stable..
03:18 blaise of course debugging symbols werent enabled..
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03:25 blaise I'm not really in the position to be doing this..
03:27 blaise I think I'm just gonna start a new world
03:28 blaise the old world will still be there when I'm in a better position to debug wtf is going on
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04:44 AlexYst For a while now, I've been unable to start Minetest by double clicking the executable file, even though I marked it as executable. My system just tries to open it in a text editor, which obviously doesn't work. I ended up building a shell script that runs Minetest and putting it in the same directory as the executable.
04:44 AlexYst But today, I decided to try something: I renamed `minetest` to `minetest.sh`.
04:45 AlexYst It's not a shell script, obviously, but now it executes properly.
04:45 AlexYst I'm pretty sure my system's doing something wrong.
05:01 TheMCNAutoBot I do the same here due to minetest on certain operating systems having a exec flag. Example, Fedora, FreeBSD or CentOS may have different prefers to how it handles opening standalone programs, (dot).desktop files and shell scripts which sometimes need a terminal to run properly.
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05:10 AlexYst TheMCNAutoBot: It's nice to know I'm not the only one. It seems a bit odd that this is needed though, especially as I haven't needed it in the past.
05:10 AlexYst Hmm. I wonder if it's because I switched desktops ... Maybe it works properly in Xfce but not LXDE ...
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06:36 harrym hi
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06:44 pacboy2004 hi
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07:06 pacboy2004 hi
07:09 mcalex g'day, trying to run a local server separately to the client as the game falls over when I do it all in one.  However some of the mods i've installed aren't working.  The 'i' key only brings up the regular inventory even though I have unified_inventory installed and I see no mobs, even though I have animal modpack, mobf, and mob_horse, mobs_monsters, mobs_npc et al.  Any suggestions?
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07:10 pacboy2004 idk
07:10 mcalex Am i correct in thinking whatever i configure when i set up the game should then run on the server?
07:10 pacboy2004 tbh
07:10 pacboy2004 Join this: https://discord.gg/dDaz6ut I know someone that can help you
07:12 pacboy2004 Did you join it?
07:17 mcalex yeah, there's no-one online
07:17 pacboy2004 Yeah there is
07:18 mcalex says: online 1 (me)
07:18 pacboy2004 Just click on #the-lounge
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07:19 pacboy2004 hi
07:23 pacboy2004 Here's my channel btw: #harry-irc
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08:31 lumberJ playing with the old tronrealm mod by Novacain with a new lua trongrid: https://forum.minetest.net​/viewtopic.php?pid=130291
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09:19 MinetestBot [git] lisacvuk -> minetest/minetest: Make hud_get return aligment, offset and size. (#7006) 4f5090f https://git.io/vNx5E (2018-02-04T09:17:46Z)
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10:20 hisforever Hi I just made a new world , but there are no trees what settings do I need to set the trees back up?
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12:29 patrick_ hi there, I'd like to share a bash script to install and compile minetest for linux from the git repository. Do you know where i could publish it ?
12:29 sfan5 on the forum
12:30 patrick_ ok thanks
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18:22 MinetestBot [git] Wuzzy2 -> minetest/minetest: Add kill chat command (#6992) 7b2687f https://git.io/vNp3m (2018-02-04T18:21:41Z)
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19:48 blaise okay, I got my server running again
19:48 blaise everything seems to be normal
19:59 danSNDBX cool !
20:00 blaise lost the old world
20:00 blaise well, not lost..
20:00 blaise but minetest can't use it in it's current state
20:01 red-001 blaise, what happened?
20:01 blaise I'm going to have to compile minetest-0.4.16 stable with debugging symbols enabled to be able to investigate any further and .... I just don't have in in me to work on that right now
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20:02 blaise red-001: well, I was building a centerfuge cascade with the pipeworks and technic mod...
20:02 blaise and a few moments after I had the cascade working properly the server crashed, with no notice in the logs
20:03 blaise ever since I've been unable to bring the server up while attached to that world on the postgresql server
20:03 * blaise shrugs
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20:23 blaise hrmm
20:23 blaise how do we get it to rain or snow with the snowdrift mod ?
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20:30 MinetestBot redblade7: Feb-02 07:08 UTC <sofar> there's no need to exclude anything, the clients all sort it out efficiently
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20:50 swift110 hey guys
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21:01 danSNDBX hi swift110
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22:55 blaise wtf, how do I plant green beans?
22:56 NathanS21 They need the bean poles placed first
22:56 blaise ah...
23:19 blaise wow
23:19 blaise I've been waiting for a fish to take my bait for like a long long time now
23:19 blaise lol
23:23 blaise all by my se e elf
23:23 blaise don wanna be
23:23 blaise aallll by my seeeeelf
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23:46 rubenwardy !rainbow test
23:46 MinetestBot test
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23:58 paramat blaise you want to force precipitation in snowdrift?
23:59 paramat or make it precipitate more often in suitable biomes?
23:59 blaise force
23:59 paramat ok ..
23:59 blaise I can't find any rain or anything

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