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Surfer_ |
hello |
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Surfer_ |
if i use the minetest.conf in my server ... will those settings overwrite my client settings? |
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sfan5 |
no |
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Surfer_ |
so key-control settings in the server conf don# |
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Surfer_ |
don't make any sense since they will be overwritten by the client settings |
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f.e. changing inventory to "e" instead of "i" |
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sfan5 |
yes |
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sfan5 |
the server does not send any settings to the client anyway |
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worth noting that singleplayer uses the same config for server and client without corruption |
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Surfer_ |
is there any other place my static spawn point could be set? because i changed it but joining with new players they will spawn at the old point |
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i set it in the minetest.conf of the server |
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if you sleep in a bed I believe it sets the spawn point there |
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Surfer_ |
but just my personal one |
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ThomasMonroe |
yeah, your personal one |
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Surfer_ |
i'm looking for the place to set the global spawnpoint for new players? (in minetest.conf - on the server it won't take any affect) |
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static_spawnpoint = 11, 22, 33 |
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sfan5 |
in the server .conf obviously |
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got it ... don't know why the server didn't work the first time |
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mods/interact/init.lua:55: in function 'make_formspec4' (Main Error) ... |
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sfan5: can't find where to set a server password :( |
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progysm |
a server password? |
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Surfer_ |
yes? to connect to the server? thought i read this is possible for "first login" |
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there is a name = playername setting in minetest.conf |
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progysm |
for the admin account |
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progysm |
so you set name = Surfer in the conf, then you login with the username Surfer and you set your password. You are now admin. |
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redblade7 |
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Gael-de-Sailly |
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xavierg |
I am a casual Minetest player; a few minutes ago, I reopened my old world (should be able to get a timestamp...) using minetest 0.4.16+repack-4 (as found in Debian Sid)... and it looks like my viewpoint is stuck. |
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xavierg |
my character keeps lookin all the way up |
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xavierg |
moving the mouse only seems to circle very fast around that point |
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xavierg |
Does that behaviour ring a bell to anyone ? |
| 19:04 |
Fixer |
xavierg: are you under wayland? or xorg |
| 19:04 |
xavierg |
X.org |
| 19:06 |
Fixer |
try restarting the game, wonder what is your DE/WM |
| 19:06 |
xavierg |
I did try that of course, but the behaviour persists; my DE is LxQt, my WM is OpenBox. |
| 19:07 |
xavierg |
I tried to google the issue a little but found nothing relevant. |
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xavierg |
I am going to try to spawn a new world |
| 19:08 |
xavierg |
same behaviour |
| 19:08 |
xavierg |
I am going to put ~/.minetest aside. |
| 19:09 |
Fixer |
we had something like that with xwayland, but not with xorg |
| 19:09 |
Fixer |
xavierg: you should probably open a bugreport here https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues |
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xavierg |
same behaviour again |
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xavierg |
Fixer: ok, I will |
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Krock |
a DPI issue with Irrlicht? |
| 19:12 |
Fixer |
i've search github and did not find anything similar apart from xwayland spinning |
| 19:13 |
xavierg |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4629 -- this sounds close |
| 19:16 |
xavierg |
adding mouse_sensitivity = 0.005 in minetest.conf makes the spinning much slower but I am still spinning around the z-axis |
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xavierg |
I observe the same behaviour using 0.4.15+repack2-1 in a stretch/stable container. |
| 19:24 |
xavierg |
So that must indeed be related to my WM. |
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xavierg |
Oh.. when I click |
| 19:26 |
xavierg |
I can see my cursor becoming a resizing cursor for half a second |
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pgimeno_ |
does it properly free your mouse when you press esc? where does the mouse appear if so? |
| 19:30 |
xavierg |
when I press escape, the mouse appears first at the centre of the Minetest window, right on the "Change keys" button but the very first movement makes it jump somewhere else (here, roughly +800 +600) before it behaves normally. |
| 19:31 |
pgimeno_ |
hmm, that's weird and probably related |
| 19:31 |
Fixer |
xavierg: can you try with fullscreen = true ? |
| 19:31 |
xavierg |
I really feel like I have the exact same issue as "hoosierEE" on #4629 |
| 19:32 |
Fixer |
probably |
| 19:33 |
xavierg |
Fixer: fullscreen = true is ignored, minetest starts in windowed mode |
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Fixer |
xavierg: wonder what is your irrlicht version |
| 19:38 |
Fixer |
xavierg: can you look it up? |
| 19:41 |
xavierg |
1.8.4+dfsg1-1 for both the stretch/stable container and my Sid system. |
| 19:41 |
Fixer |
xavierg: ty, i've posted this info in that issue |
| 19:42 |
Fixer |
xavierg: what is your monitor resolution, btw? |
| 19:42 |
xavierg |
1920x1200+1920x1080 |
| 19:42 |
Fixer |
double monitor setup? |
| 19:42 |
xavierg |
yep |
| 19:43 |
Fixer |
interesting, will note this in issue |
| 19:43 |
xavierg |
I wonder if it happens on my laptop... |
| 19:43 |
Fixer |
xavierg: and minetest is running on what? does it occur in both? |
| 19:43 |
Fixer |
on both monitors? |
| 19:43 |
xavierg |
it happened on both, yes |
| 19:45 |
xavierg |
Fixer: interestingly, it works fine on my laptop, which has the same setup: LxQt+OpenBox |
| 19:45 |
Fixer |
xavierg: same OS? |
| 19:46 |
xavierg |
Yep, Debian Sid too. |
| 19:47 |
xavierg |
That means that *something* specific to my workstation is triggering the issue. |
| 19:47 |
Fixer |
yeah, wonder what are your videocards in both cases? |
| 19:47 |
xavierg |
nvidia with nouveau driver on the laptop, AMD/ATI with radeon driver on the workstation... I doubt it matters though |
| 19:49 |
Fixer |
i hope developers will look into that eventually, you may try to tinker with different settings |
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xavierg |
I will investigate further, yes, as I am very curious as to what triggers the issue on my workstation but not on my laptop |
| 19:50 |
MinetestBot |
[git] TumeniNodes -> minetest/minetest_game: Add obsidian_pane (#2035) b775a5e https://git.io/vN5oT (2018-01-31T19:49:54Z) |
| 19:50 |
MinetestBot |
[git] Jat15 -> minetest/minetest_game: Stairs: unbind table groups (#2036) 5f121b5 https://git.io/vN5ok (2018-01-31T19:49:27Z) |
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xavierg |
Fixer: I have executed my workstation's minetest on my laptop's display over SSH+X11 and managed to get the bug on my laptop. |
| 19:53 |
Fixer |
i'm not a dev, can't help beyond that |
| 19:54 |
Fixer |
will paste that too |
| 19:54 |
xavierg |
well, weird.... I cannot reproduce that |
| 19:54 |
MinetestBot |
[git] TumeniNodes -> minetest/minetest_game: Add obsidian_pane (#2035) 496a1a2 https://git.io/vN5oK (2018-01-31T19:53:49Z) |
| 19:54 |
xavierg |
I now get X Error of failed request: XF86VidModeClientNotLocal ... which makes sense. |
| 19:55 |
xavierg |
I have no idea how it worked the first time :D |
| 19:55 |
Fixer |
i've added link to irc log, so they can read your postings |
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xavierg |
nice :) I will report my investigations on the github issue if I can find anything relevant AND consistent |
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xavierg |
Fixer: this now happens to be specific to my user. |
| 20:41 |
Fixer |
xavierg: aka unix user? |
| 20:41 |
xavierg |
yep |
| 20:42 |
xavierg |
Long story short, my workstation has a second user with very similar parameters; I tried minetest with that account and it worked fine. |
| 20:43 |
Fixer |
thats odd |
| 20:43 |
xavierg |
it is. |
| 20:43 |
Fixer |
xavierg: if you have github account, please post that info in that issue |
| 20:43 |
xavierg |
see 20:56:23 ;) |
| 20:45 |
xavierg |
and when that user executes minetest on my display, I get the bug |
| 20:48 |
xavierg |
it would be easy to blame openbox, but both users have the openbox config, byte for byte. |
| 20:56 |
pgimeno_ |
xavierg: I was wondering if there's some kind of applet or the like that could be interfering with mouse capture |
| 21:00 |
xavierg |
and if I do the opposite (executing my minetest on that user's display), my minetest works perfectly fine |
| 21:00 |
xavierg |
pgimeno_: I was wondering that too but nothing hits me as an obvious culprit |
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* xavierg |
has that weird feeling he is missing something obvious. |
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xavierg |
What baffles me is that the LxQt+OpenBox configuration is the same on both X user sessions. |
| 21:40 |
xavierg |
What could actually mess up focus and mouse input? |
| 21:41 |
rubenwardy |
could be a rounding issue |
| 21:41 |
rubenwardy |
are you able to compile? |
| 21:41 |
xavierg |
Yes, I am. |
| 21:41 |
xavierg |
But that binary works fine afaict. |
| 21:41 |
rubenwardy |
you're currently on 0.4.16, right? |
| 21:42 |
xavierg |
yep |
| 21:43 |
xavierg |
The menu is not impacted by the problem btw. |
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xavierg |
I have to end my reflections here for today. To be continued... |
| 22:00 |
rubenwardy |
https://gist.github.com/rubenwardy/db188b7e53ea100d2aa27bc6efc8b8c8 |
| 22:00 |
rubenwardy |
xavierg ^ |
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xavierg |
rubenwardy: but how would that explain the issue happens only within *my* X user session? |
| 22:02 |
rubenwardy |
no idea |
| 22:02 |
rubenwardy |
I've had this report and I suspected it's due to weirdness in that area, never been able to reproduce though |
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rubenwardy |
is it a different computer? hmm |
| 22:04 |
xavierg |
nope |
| 22:04 |
xavierg |
(forget about my laptop) |
| 22:04 |
xavierg |
we're speaking of one minetest binary, two users, each with their minetest config (which differs). |
| 22:05 |
xavierg |
both behaves the same way: when executed on the display of my X session, they spin around the Z-axis |
| 22:05 |
xavierg |
when executed on the display of that other user's X session (which is very close to mine, config-wise), they behave fine. |
| 22:06 |
xavierg |
that's why I am heading my research to something close to the window manager |
| 22:06 |
xavierg |
behave* |
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xavierg |
but I gotta go; maybe a good night of sleep will give some illumination :) |
| 22:08 |
xavierg |
thanks to all of you for your support |
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* xavierg |
can't get this out of his head |
| 22:14 |
xavierg |
If I resize the window using alt + right click, I can end up in a situation where I see the pointer moving far outside the minetest window while being constantly repositioned by minetest |
| 22:15 |
xavierg |
This screams "window manager-induced window geometry issue". Maybe the window manager is not that innocent. |
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rubenwardy |
yeah, sounds like a WM problem |
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pgimeno_ |
xavierg: I wonder what happens when you resize the window in the user for which it works |
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pgimeno_ |
wonder if the different behaviours for the users might be explained with whether the window was ever resized or not |
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