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IRC log for #minetest, 2018-01-28

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01:04 asscheek666 hi
01:05 sfan5 nice nick
01:05 asscheek666 I drink honey booboo gogo juice y'all
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02:41 swift110-phone_ Eww
02:41 ThomasMonroe hey swift110-phone_
02:42 swift110-phone_ How are you ThomasMonroe
02:43 ThomasMonroe I'm good, and you?
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04:44 swift110-phone_ Im good Thomas
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05:52 GreenDimond hey hey hey VanessaE or Shara or some other forum moderator guess what?
05:52 GreenDimond Might wanna, uh, check the forum .-.
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06:30 GreenDimond Calinou, rubenwardy, Shara, VanessaE, sfan5, somebody?
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07:46 QwertyCool Evening everyone
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09:23 MinetestBot [git] sfan5 -> minetest/minetest: Apply physics overrides correctly during anticheat calculations (#6970) de2c40c https://git.io/vND4o (2018-01-28T09:21:21Z)
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12:46 mutrax Hello guys... Nostalgia called and was drawn back to minetest. Is axaro's server still around? would like to look up my old place there
12:46 ThomasMonroe axaro?
12:46 ThomasMonroe what's the server name?
12:47 mutrax The servername used to be axaro's something something
12:51 mutrax found an irc log with the ip, but it's dead.... Welp... any place noobs are welcom to roam around and set up a place to call home?
12:52 Shara What kind of server?
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12:52 mutrax building, exploring, trading, pvp
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12:53 Shara I guess just check the server list for which survival servers are doing well then. Might give an idea
12:54 mutrax okidoki! Will have a look
12:55 mutrax thanks anyway guys.. gotta go. Kid's gotta hoard my pc
12:55 mutrax bye
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14:42 riff_IRC Going offline...
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14:59 Guest4718 Hello. I have a doubt. What's the better way to use Mods, in personal user account or in system. Is it causes interferences on performance?
15:00 Guest4718 I'll use the game on the local network
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15:00 red-001 there is literaly no difference
15:01 red-001 personaly account should be easier since chances are you need root to edit system wide mods
15:05 Guest4718 One time, I had copy a world from home to school and it was very slowly, diferently when I creates local, I tought it was happen by the mods
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16:48 wlan2 Hi, would this be the proper channel to ask mod-development-related questions? Should I ask in #minetest-dev instead?
16:48 rubenwardy yes
16:48 rubenwardy err
16:48 rubenwardy this is the right channel
16:49 progysm two questions need two answers
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16:51 wlan2 Sorry, I missed the "if not"
16:56 wlan2 First question about making mods: Is this the best guide I should read? https://rubenwardy.com/minete​st_modding_book/en/index.html
16:57 rubenwardy yes, obviously
16:57 rubenwardy XD
16:58 wlan2 Then: What about tests?
16:59 wlan2 Like, unit tests and all that TDD stuff.
17:00 wlan2 (If I don't do unit tests, the best I can do is spaghetti.)
17:00 rubenwardy 1 sec, there's a library that's pretty good
17:01 rubenwardy busted
17:02 rubenwardy there isn't any mock minetest API libraries that I know of
17:02 rubenwardy your best bet is separating stuff from the Minetest API such that it could run standalone for the purpose of testing, but meh
17:02 rubenwardy unit tests in MT is fairly uncommon
17:03 rubenwardy I used it on one of my newer mods, essentially based the mod around classes and tested the methods
17:05 rubenwardy https://github.com/rubenwardy/economy_mp/b​lob/master/company/tests/classes_spec.lua
17:06 rubenwardy also https://github.com/rubenwa​rdy/ctf_pvp_engine/pull/16
17:07 * wlan2 gets 404 on the first one.
17:07 rubenwardy oh, it's private
17:07 rubenwardy fixed
17:08 wlan2 Stupid github doesn't know how to 403.
17:08 rubenwardy yeah
17:10 rubenwardy there's also lua check
17:10 rubenwardy https://github.com/minetest/minet​est_game/blob/master/.luacheckrc and https://github.com/minetest/minet​est_game/blob/master/.travis.yml shows how it can be used with CI
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17:11 wlan2 I've never programmed in lua nor used travis ever before, actually.
17:15 rubenwardy Lua's interesting
17:15 rubenwardy it's a prototype-based language, like Javascript
17:15 rubenwardy but with a consistent type system
17:15 rubenwardy and 1 indexed arrays
17:16 rubenwardy it's a nice language in that you can get a lot of complexity from a simple language
17:18 wlan2 1 indexed arrays? Does that mean the first element is "1"?
17:18 rubenwardy yeah
17:19 rubenwardy technically Lua doesn't have arrays
17:19 rubenwardy they're tables
17:19 rubenwardy but they might as well be arrays in terms of how they're being used
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17:21 wlan2 Interesting, I wonder if there's some language where arrays start at some weird arbitrary number like 13
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17:32 wlan2 My gosh, so much text-on-white...
17:34 Krock wlan2, aside of mathlab, Lua is one of the few languages/programs that use 1-indexed arrays which is somewhat stupid IMO
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17:35 wlan2 Krock: I tend to think it's a rather stubborn thing, more than a stupid thing.
17:36 wlan2 And something pretty arbitrary.
17:36 rubenwardy they say it;s easier for beginners
17:36 rubenwardy wrong
17:36 rubenwardy makes it harder when switching language
17:36 rubenwardy and I argue more beginners learn another language first
17:40 wlan2 Yeah, I mean, I woulnd't be going to learn lua if it weren't for minetest modding.
17:41 rubenwardy exactly, it's pretty much only used for game scripting
17:41 rubenwardy or AwesomeVM
17:41 wlan2 I've already been spaghetting other languages for years.
17:42 adfeno I like Scheme ;)
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17:42 rubenwardy haskell for modding!
17:44 wlan2 Make haskell great again!
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17:57 AndroBuilder_ where/how can i report errors on the minetest wiki?
17:57 AndroBuilder_ https://wiki.minetest.net/Minetest_in_der_Sch​ule/RaspberryPi-Server_anlegen_und_einrichten
18:00 wlan2 AndroBuilder_: Registered users can edit the page.
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18:01 wlan2 I thought account creation was publicly accessible.
18:04 red-65516 AndroBuilder_, you can ask for an account
18:04 red-65516 I think Calinou is an admin on the wiki
18:10 AndroBuilder_ i wouldn't mind to help edditing and expanding the wiki :) or translate parts to german or english for example
18:12 Calinou AndroBuilder_: hi, PM me your email address and desired username so I can create a wiki account for you
18:12 Calinou use /msg Calinou <message here>
18:13 AndroBuilder_ Calinou: got it?
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18:27 Jordach Enricoo: server's fixed
18:27 Enricoo Ok this server runs 0.5.0?
18:28 Enricoo Jordach
18:28 Jordach yes
18:28 Jordach it's an outdated commit f470cb7
18:28 Enricoo This server runs 0.5.0? I mean your
18:28 Jordach yes
18:28 Enricoo Ahh ok
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22:58 walker_ hello. I'm having a problem when I put blocks... I made a square with stone and when I try to put pine block or others it appear with different size. What's wrong?
22:58 walker_ I'm using WorldEdit, but not for this
23:05 walker_ I already search for this in forum and I can't found anything about
23:08 sfan5 what do you mean by "different size"?
23:09 walker_ is not equal stone size
23:11 walker_ if I use WorldEdit command to fill then works
23:11 walker_ stone and wood pine stay equals
23:12 sfan5 i have no idea what you mean
23:12 sfan5 can you make a screenshot
23:13 walker_ yes, but how can I send here
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23:15 sfan5 upload it to imgur
23:18 walker_ sorry. I get it. It's my mistake, the block was a slab... but I didn't never see a slab to big
23:19 walker_ https://imgur.com/a/5hvAK
23:26 sfan5 yeah those slabs are part of moreblocks afaik
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23:35 walker_ :-D sorry and thanks for your attencion
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