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do not store sensitive data in cloud, unless encrypted and with another local backup |
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swift110 |
hey riff-IRC how are you |
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riff-IRC |
good you? |
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swift110 |
good riff-IRC what are you up to |
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riff-IRC |
ripping CDs |
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BakerPrime |
Anyone know how to fix a lighting glitch that doesn't respond to //fixlight or //replace air air ? |
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BakerPrime |
Short of resetting the server. |
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swift110 |
oh ok riff-IRC |
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BakerPrime |
Nevermind, I figured it out. XD |
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riff-IRC |
Bakerprime: try filling the area with a solid object and removing the solid objects |
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LazyJ |
BakerPrime: Try planting a default:sapling near the center of the shadow and allow it to grow on its own (with a bit of help from a mese lamp). |
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riff-IRC |
ah ok |
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riff-IRC |
Hey LazyJ |
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LazyJ |
Howdy riff-IRC ;) |
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riff-IRC |
How's the server? |
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LazyJ |
riff-IRC, splitting the same conversation across multiple channels is confusing. |
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riff-IRC |
oh ok |
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swift110 |
lol LazyJ |
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Shara |
It's what riff does :) |
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riff-IRC |
yup |
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riff-IRC |
I can probably manage to split it even more, but not going to |
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swift110 |
ok |
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BakerPrime |
LazyJ/Riff-IRC: Thanks guys, I will keep that in mind next time the issue occurs. :D |
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BakerPrime |
I got it worked out with my usual methods already, but sometimes I have some really stuborn ones. |
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Beginer |
Hello, is it possible to set different path to debug.txt? I want debug_<number>.txt for each server. |
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VanessaE |
--logfile <foo> |
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Krock |
minetestserver --logfile <path to debug file> |
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Krock |
these ninjas.. |
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VanessaE |
heh |
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Beginer |
oh yeah! i was looking for "debug" keyword in help section *facepalm* Thank you! |
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pleaseHelpMe |
hello, I need some help setting up a minetest server over Ubuntu via SSH. I'm new at this and need a server for a research project. I'm receiving an error that my port may already be in use and the server attempts to start at address 0.0.0.0 |
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pleaseHelpMe |
if anybody could help I would really appreciate it! |
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sfan5 |
pleaseHelpMe: try setting a different port in the minetest.conf |
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sfan5 |
like port = 30001 |
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pleaseHelpMe |
okay, will do. Is the path something along the lines of ~/.minetest/minetest.conf? |
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sfan5 |
depends on how you installed the server |
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pleaseHelpMe |
I used sudo apt-get install minetest-server |
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pleaseHelpMe |
thank you for the reply btw |
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pleaseHelpMe |
that file contains one line, server_dedicated = true, should it have more? |
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sfan5 |
no that suffices in theory |
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sfan5 |
try adding a line with port = 30001 there |
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pleaseHelpMe |
okay! |
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sfan5 |
it's also possible that the minetest server is already running |
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pleaseHelpMe |
I've wondered about that, but this is a fresh install |
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pleaseHelpMe |
is there a way I could check? |
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pleaseHelpMe |
I've added the port line to minetest.conf but it's still trying to listen on port 30000. Also getting an address already in use error. Should the address be showing as 0.0.0.0? |
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sfan5 |
then it's not using the config file you edited |
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sfan5 |
to check look at the process list: ps auxw |
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pleaseHelpMe |
no minetestserver process running |
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pleaseHelpMe |
alright, so I need to find the actual config file? |
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sfan5 |
yea |
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sfan5 |
how are you trying to start it |
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pleaseHelpMe |
minetestserver --info, trying to follow the wiki |
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pleaseHelpMe |
can I in theory make a new config file and specify the path? |
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sfan5 |
yes |
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pleaseHelpMe |
that might be a better solution |
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pleaseHelpMe |
let me try it! |
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pleaseHelpMe |
okay, set it to that file I edited before. Now it says listening on 30001! |
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pleaseHelpMe |
it's staying on the terminal at that line, is this normal? |
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pleaseHelpMe |
when I can, should I also set the address line to be the address of the vm I'm using? |
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sfan5 |
no that's not needed |
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sfan5 |
yes that's normal |
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sfan5 |
you can use a program like tmux if you want to background it |
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pleaseHelpMe |
I'll look into that |
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pleaseHelpMe |
to clarify, the last line I'm seeing is "listening on 0.0.0.0:3001" after setting the config file |
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pleaseHelpMe |
that's correct? |
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sfan5 |
sounds correct |
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pleaseHelpMe |
thank you so much! |
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pleaseHelpMe |
If I need any more help I'll swing back. Also, when the research project is ready would it be okay to come and talk about it here? |
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sfan5 |
sure |
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pleaseHelpMe |
thanks again |
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pleaseHelpMe |
will this only stay running as long as I'm ssh'd in? |
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sfan5 |
yes |
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sfan5 |
either set it up as a proper service or use tmux as I mentioned |
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pleaseHelpMe |
excellent. |
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Beginer |
uhm, my other mtserver instance says: "ERROR[CurlFetch]: servers.minetest.net/announce not found (HTTP response code said error) (response code 500)" |
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Beginer |
now it says: response code 418 |
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sfan5 |
uhhu lemme take a look |
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sfan5 |
Beginer: shouldn't happen again |
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Beginer |
sfan5, thank you! now it works |
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nepugia |
Hey, for fomspecs if i use image[] the image gets transformed to the size i specify, is there an alternative where the image gets cropped? |
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Open_Future |
Hi All, is there a way to make a map of Canada? |
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Open_Future |
anyone? |
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VanessaE |
you could try talking to a cartographer :P |
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VanessaE |
minetest's map is only 62km on a side so the best you could do is try to model one of the smaller provinces, maybe PEI or so |
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Krock |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=12666 |
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Krock |
^ Open_Future |
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Open_Future |
Is there no way to use actual map data for say Canada to generate a realistic although scaled map |
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Open_Future |
Krock most if that info is old, youtube video no longer up, and I still cant make sense of what they are doing |
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Krock |
I remember that there was a project to generate the moon terrain (I guess) from collected data |
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Fixer |
VanessaE: map can be resized to 62x62 km and then that tool above can handle that |
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VanessaE |
Fixer: sure, but then it wouldn't be ralistic |
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VanessaE |
+e |
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Fixer |
VanessaE: too large, can be done in minecraft though |
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Krock |
real maps would fail in mc as you've only 256m Y space |
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VanessaE |
isn't it more like 64m, with the rest being below sea level? |
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Krock |
no idea.. never played it |
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Open_Future |
I'm over my head on this. But as a teacher, I can tell you that I could sure use a map of Canada in social studies with my grade 3 and 4 students. Wish someone with more expertise could help. |
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Open_Future |
Maybe this could help http://maps.canada.ca/czs/index-en.html |
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Krock |
generating terrain in Minetest isn't a thing but reading the source format and converting it to nodes is the challenge |
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Sokomine |
Open_Future: trouble is: even if you could generate such a map - there'd be no client that could actually *see* it. the client only loads a few mapblocks and sees a small part of the world |
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Sokomine |
Open_Future: i mean...you can take real map data, scale it down and apply it to a mapgen. but your clients would still see only such a small part of the world that it'd be almost indistinguishable from any other terrain. it's like seeing the map of canada if you just stand somewhere in the land and look around. unless someone placed a map there you'll see only a tiny bit |
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Sokomine |
Open_Future: perhaps *really* scaling it down to a very small size (maybe 1000 blocks in each direction) could help and really visualize things. otherwise...it's too big to be seen |
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Open_Future |
okay i tried something different, i went for map data for our immediate local area. Here is the format: Job details : Job id : 25043 Product : Point data / Données ponctuelles Data source : Canadian Digital Surface Model / Modèle numérique de surface du Canada Output format : CSV Reference coordinate system : EPSG:4617 Resolution : 0.75 arc seconds / 0.75 arc secondes |
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Open_Future |
Can I do something with this now? |
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Open_Future |
CSV reference coordinate system |
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Sokomine |
Open_Future: if the format is well documented (guess it is?), then i think so, yes |
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Krock |
plain text? the must be a huge file - but easier to read from Lua |
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Krock |
s/the/that/ |
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Open_Future |
want to see the file Krock? I can make it available as a link....6.2mb as zip file |
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Sokomine |
i have no idea how many actual points there'll be at a resolution of 0.75 arc secons. i know what it stands for in general but have no conception of the actual resolution |
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Sokomine |
hm. that's not too big. you might just load it and apply it to the map for an extra mapgen |
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Open_Future |
i dont know how to do that |
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Sokomine |
there are two ways: change/create the map with an external program (sofar mentionned that) or do it ingame with a mod that implements a new mapgen |
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Open_Future |
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1FRz2430etial9Z3ZLH4b7zbuVWVLVH1z |
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Sokomine |
depends a bit on how large the data structure you have will actually be |
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Sokomine |
how large do you want the map to be ingame? 1 point = 1 mapnode? |
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Sokomine |
er, 1 point = 1 m? figure out how much data you have; analyze your data |
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Open_Future |
the point data file is 8 mb here it is https://drive.google.com/open?id=1-G0av44F-Wpgbu-G9HMb_ahVdrrHOhZ9 |
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sofar |
Open_Future: I suppose I can just convert a map for you |
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sofar |
or do you have specific requirements for scale? |
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sofar |
lemme show you some screenshots of the result |
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Open_Future |
ok, really appreciate this |
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Open_Future |
the map data is basically for our local area...so that part would be cool for the students to help create our downtown etc. |
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sofar |
it'll take me a sec to find a recognizable spot |
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sofar |
since 70% is water, lol |
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sofar |
https://i.imgur.com/3tJQ7jo.jpg |
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sofar |
no idea where that is yet, lol |
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Open_Future |
we are near lake huron |
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sofar |
this is a whole earth map |
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Open_Future |
now what process did you use to make that..... |
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sofar |
once I find out where I am on the earth, I'll be able to find anything quickly, lmao |
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sofar |
`mcimport` |
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Open_Future |
so you ran mcimport on the csv file? |
| 21:30 |
sofar |
no, this is converted from someone who made a MC map off world data |
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sofar |
they also used vegetation and soil data so you get an actual somewhat realistic result |
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Open_Future |
cool |
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sofar |
https://i.imgur.com/R3Jj8TP.png brazil coastline from 1000 height |
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sofar |
this map is so large |
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sofar |
I just get lost |
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sofar |
finally made it to the carribbean, lol |
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sofar |
https://i.imgur.com/e2Upeh2.jpg |
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Krock |
cute island |
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redblade7 |
hi |
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redblade7 |
does anyone know if the official android client knows param2 dyes? |
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redblade7 |
param2 wood and clay i mean |
| 21:53 |
redblade7 |
because someone told me they saw white wood |
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redblade7 |
i know with desktoip, the latest version is fine |
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redblade7 |
0.4.16 |
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redblade7 |
but i dont know what the official phone client uses |
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redblade7 |
or if she's using a fake |
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sofar |
Open_Future: almost there, want a live feed? I can stream my exploratin, lol |
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sofar |
err, how do I see my own live stream url, lmao |
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sofar |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QUNKtk5ex4 |
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sofar |
Open_Future: take a look ^^ |
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sofar |
Open_Future: at the Hudson bay atm |
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Open_Future |
ok |
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Open_Future |
ok im watching you |
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Open_Future |
so hudson bay lowlands are right next to hudson bay, then artic tundra etc north of that |
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Open_Future |
west coast are Mountains |
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Open_Future |
south of hudson bay is candiaen shield and great lakes regions |
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Open_Future |
yeah that hudson bay |
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sofar |
yep, anyway, that's the scale of this map |
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sofar |
you can see the projection used causes deformation up north a lot |
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sofar |
the whole map is 1.3gb compressed |
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Open_Future |
well that would be good |
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Open_Future |
is there anyway you can get just Canada out of that |
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sofar |
there are methods to prune it down to a certain section |
| 22:12 |
sofar |
yes |
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sofar |
I wrote some code already to do this quickly |
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Open_Future |
like if you did west coats, great lakes, and east coast Nova Scotia, Newfoundland that would be great |
| 22:13 |
sofar |
with some small mods I can make it cut any region |
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Open_Future |
here is link to map or area I would ideally like to have |
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sofar |
the USA one I did (48 lower states) ended up 200mb compressed |
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sofar |
which worked out OK |
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Open_Future |
http://www.craigmarlatt.com/canada/images/images&downloads/map_phys.jpg |
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sofar |
I did that one for a school as well :) |
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sofar |
yeah, I saw your image on the forum |
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sofar |
I've got some new years calls to make atm |
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Open_Future |
Well it would be super if you could do Canada....I would put the map somewhere where others could use it too and give you the credit.... |
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sofar |
it'll take me some time to do this, ofc |
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Open_Future |
okay, let me give you an email address you could contact me with if you like |
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Open_Future |
elston_gunn ymail.com |
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sofar |
ok, afk a bit |
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Open_Future |
thanks a million |
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