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IRC log for #minetest, 2017-11-16

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00:12 swift110 hey all
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06:06 MinetestBot [git] lhofhansl -> minetest/minetest: Allow zoom to actually show more data. ae9b1aa https://git.io/vF1jX (2017-11-16T06:03:58Z)
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06:37 TempUser Quick question, hope I can get an answer here without going through the hassel of going on the dev channel: does using `base.png^[sheet:16x16:0,0' (as mentioned in the Lua API) use hardware tiling such that the GPU performs fewer texture binds? Since that is the most common reason to use tilesheets a.k.a texture atlases. Thanks!
06:39 nore TempUser: I think it does not reduce the number of texture binds, only the number of media files that need to be sent to the client
06:41 TempUser I feared that would be the case. Oh well. Thank you!
06:52 sfan5 TempUser: none of the texture modifiers uses any hardware features
06:52 sfan5 it's all done in software to generate a new texture
06:57 TempUser No way to use real texture atlases? :( What about animated textures? They use an 'atlast' of sorts, though a small one. Maybe a way to use animated textures without the actual animation bit?
06:59 TempUser It's just that it seems like a fairly trivial but useful feature to have performance-wise. I can't help but notice that Minetest had a texture atlas in the past but it was removed. Bugs I think?
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07:21 therickster Hey, can someone tell me what minetest.org is? I can't find anything about it and it's pretty odd
07:24 philipbenr It looks like just a blog/half baked website of somebody who uses Minetest. Nothing official I don't think.
07:24 therickster they even have a clone of the minetest.net forums
07:25 therickster and the blog itself looks like it's written by a not so stable person
07:25 philipbenr Or bored
07:27 therickster Well I thought they were just bored until I got to the part of the blog where they accuse an IRC member of being a child molester
07:27 philipbenr Never mind
07:27 philipbenr Look at the dates in the forums
07:27 philipbenr Right about March 31st
07:27 philipbenr It looks to be an april fool joke
07:28 philipbenr That was carried on for a couple days
07:28 therickster http://minetest.org/mtbook.html
07:28 therickster Skim through some of that
07:28 therickster That doesn't look like an april fool's joke to me
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07:30 AnotherUser It is not a joke.
07:30 therickster Can you explain what it is, then?
07:31 philipbenr That
07:31 philipbenr ^
07:31 philipbenr After reading that mtbook section I'm now more curious than I should be
07:32 AnotherUser I am not in a position to explain in detail.
07:33 AnotherUser But I mainly wanted to say that it is definitely not official.
07:33 therickster Well I don't think the actual Minetest people would like to have their website confused with the rambling's of a schizophrenic person
07:35 philipbenr It looks like there are legal implications if it is not a joke... I still don't know why all this is posted out on a public website. Much of this seems like it should be communicated through mail or email or some other private communication.
07:36 sy that site is run by oldcoder
07:36 sy a strange personality
07:36 sy but hes nice
07:37 philipbenr Looks like cornernote also worked on the site.
07:38 philipbenr Regardless, I don't think there is anything the Minetest team can do about it really..
07:39 therickster A disclaimer somewhere that says it's not an official site?
07:39 AnotherUser if you mean the mtmodding book, I think I have seen that elsewhere. I do remember being surprised to see it on that site, and thought at the time that it must have been a copy.
07:39 therickster Because it took me a while to find the real one
07:39 AnotherUser You will find no such disclaimer.
07:41 philipbenr I don't think it will be so much of a problem. minetest.net and minetest.com are higher up on the search list.
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07:41 philipbenr For pretty much all search engines
07:41 therickster It's still rather concerning that I couldn't find anything about it
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11:32 rubenwardy Therickster, philipbenr: OldCoder is hostility attacking our community. That's the website he owns where he posts such information
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11:33 rubenwardy Because he's hostile he's not going to put a disclaimer
11:33 rubenwardy From his view his Minetest is the official Minetest
11:33 rubenwardy sy, nice years ago, maybe
11:34 sy huh
11:34 rubenwardy All that can be done is being done, so I wouldn't worry about it too much
11:35 sy can i have a tldr of that page
11:35 rubenwardy Lol
11:35 sy well
11:35 sy people go evil over time
11:36 * sy pulls scary face
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11:56 rubenwardy AnotherUser: the modding back is under a free license. That site has an outdated version on it. You'll find the official and up to date version at rubenwardy.com/minetest_modding_book
12:11 Fixer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfH2t2UgjnU
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14:19 Jordach str
14:19 Jordach https://gist.github.com/Jordach/​26b652a702c221cd645d47dab96ea48c
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19:18 LordBetaX someone online?
19:18 LordBetaX Can someone tell me how do I chage my skin?
19:18 sfan5 you need a mod installed that allows changing skins
19:19 LordBetaX wich mod?
19:19 Krock any skin mod
19:19 LordBetaX ok
19:19 LordBetaX thanks
19:19 Krock http://krock-works.16mb.com/​MTstuff/modSearch.php?q=skin
19:19 LordBetaX I that the original developer is online to chat
19:19 LordBetaX thank you
19:19 LordBetaX bye
19:20 Krock !next
19:20 MinetestBot Another satisfied customer. Next!
19:20 philipbenr Nice
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19:21 Krock hello philipbenr. haven't noticed you being here before - active in IRC now too?
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19:27 LordBetaX last thing
19:27 LordBetaX is a skin mod compatible with minecraft skins?
19:27 philipbenr Yeah, I just downloaded a new IRC client
19:27 philipbenr I was around a bit earlier, just I got a new computer, and never installed
19:28 sofar LordBetaX: it can be, depends/varies
19:28 philipbenr Plus I left the forums right around election time
19:28 philipbenr Which might be easily explained all by itself
19:28 sofar philipbenr: lol
19:28 LordBetaX ok sofar
19:29 sofar philipbenr: just come play on my server, it has a nice low-pressure and relaxed atmosphere, and tens of hours of gameplay
19:29 sofar you can play Krocks puzzle
19:30 sofar I should see how much gameplay time we have, actually
19:30 philipbenr So an actual story line?
19:30 philipbenr Impressive..
19:30 sofar there's a story line hidden in the tutorial levels
19:30 sofar it's not entirely finished, though
19:30 sofar I've been thinking of making an extension
19:31 philipbenr Regardless, its still something that Minetest hasn't really had, so that's good
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20:04 rubenwardy philipbenr, or there's CTF
20:04 rubenwardy have 10s of Mobile ~bots~ mobile players swear at you in russian whilst running around and digging holes
20:06 philipbenr Wasn't that you who wrote the CTF mod?
20:07 Raven262 That sounds almost like Dota2, rubenwardy.
20:07 Raven262 Without digging holes though.
20:07 rubenwardy yes, philipbenr
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20:12 Donbatman rubenwardy, I have 2 mods that got merged into another mod. They do not exist on github. Do they show here because the forum page still exists? https://minetest-mods.rubenwardy.com/status/?a=Don
20:12 Donbatman oh ya Hi rubenwardy
20:12 rubenwardy which ones? The two at the top?
20:12 Donbatman ya
20:12 rubenwardy that site is powered by the forum, so yeah
20:13 Donbatman ok thanks. I will request them toi be moved
20:13 rubenwardy it's working correctly if it doesn't add them due to a Github 404
20:14 Donbatman they are in old mods
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22:22 Fixer rubenwardy: are you sure they are bots and not actual kids?
22:25 rubenwardy thatsthejoke.jpg
22:26 Raven262 LOL
22:36 Fixer rubenwardy: WHAT?
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22:37 Fixer rubenwardy: I'm asking because I've read somewhere that some people seen some bot-like players
22:38 Fixer that follow the player or punch or do trivial tasks, or whatever
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22:45 Fixer maybe it is just urban legend
22:52 Donbatman Fixer try saying "bot-like players" 3 times. They might show up
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23:01 Fixer Donbatman: sometimes it is hard to assess if it is kid or bot, you join some new server, suddenly smth is following you up, so you start hide and seek, /spawn, hide and seek
23:01 Fixer it is like, I just joined and wanted to look around and something is stalking me
23:03 Fixer something
23:05 rubenwardy lol
23:05 rubenwardy I was making a joke about how some people think players are bots
23:07 Fixer but some people actually think
23:07 paramat botkids
23:07 Fixer not just me
23:07 Fixer here is my account:
23:07 Fixer i've joined jas server when it was at early 0.5.0 iirc
23:07 Fixer there were two players
23:08 Fixer and one was talking in very weird neural network like text (possibly translation on the go?)
23:08 Fixer I even saved screenshot somewhere
23:09 Fixer text was in russian
23:10 Fixer smth like: I will give you a gift Very valuable gift Breath out
23:10 Fixer and then some very weird russian + english + russian part
23:10 Fixer will show where to build EDITING spawner in all boys
23:11 Fixer and iirc there was weird text about that felt like construction work related ad? :S
23:11 Fixer more inclined to think it was some kind of auto translate
23:12 Fixer it is technicly possible to make bots for minetest
23:13 Fixer someone reported weird bot like player behaviour, i think on hometown server
23:14 Fixer https://i.imgur.com/72VKOj9.png
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23:47 jas_ Pruner684 still has protected areas on dcbl.
23:47 jas_ https://i.imgur.com/w7Xt6F2.png
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23:51 Legends hi
23:51 philipbenr Hi
23:52 Legends how is evryone
23:52 Legends ???
23:52 philipbenr I don't know about everybody else, but I'm exhausted. But it helps that its Friday tomorrow.
23:52 Legends yeah youre right
23:53 Legends do you know the IRC name for Legends Of Survival?
23:53 philipbenr No, I don't
23:53 Legends darn i have been looking for it
23:53 Legends but
23:54 Legends thats ok
23:54 Legends what did you do today
23:54 Legends ???
23:54 philipbenr Went to class, took some tests, talked to professors, not much. Average college life.
23:55 Legends ohhhh you are in college
23:56 Legends for how many years??
23:56 ThomasMonroe Legends, its on ircxerox.tk
23:56 Legends so far
23:56 Legends oh im UNLIMITED_GAMER
23:56 Legends thanks lol
23:56 ThomasMonroe yw
23:56 Legends XD
23:57 Legends This awkward
23:57 ThomasMonroe not really
23:57 Legends well idk
23:57 philipbenr You found out what you wanted, so.
23:57 Legends yep thanks
23:58 Legends is it ok if i stay?
23:58 philipbenr I don't see why not
23:59 swift110 sup
23:59 ThomasMonroe not much swift110

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