Time  Nick           Message
05:18 Gerold55       I'm looking into making an NEI type of mod can someone help me do that?
08:32 MinetestBot    02[git] 04raymoo -> 03minetest/minetest: Fix default item callbacks to work with nil users (#5819) 13a5d5728 https://git.io/vFIed (152017-10-28T08:30:50Z)
08:35 MinetestBot    02[git] 04lhofhansl -> 03minetest/minetest: Avoid filtering low-res textures for animated meshes (incl. players) … 13610ea6f https://git.io/vFIeb (152017-10-28T08:33:47Z)
11:35 rubenwardy     https://twitter.com/rubenwardy/status/924237730158137344
11:36 sfan5          nice
11:37 sy             coolio
11:38 Krock          needs more gamers
11:39 sy             need more monitors for that
11:39 sy             monitors are expensive
11:39 sy             also we need high quality gamers
11:39 sy             not what we have now
11:39 sy             no offense guys
11:40 deltasquared   shots fired, but none taken I guess :P
11:40 sy             tbh most people at freenodelive are p cool
11:40 Krock          I wonder how you can't take that offending
11:40 sy             it's only the people who use the server list exclusively that I dislike
11:40 deltasquared   awww man I really wanted to go but it's a little far for me to travel alone
11:40 deltasquared   bristol, I mean
11:41 sy             o dam is it in the uk now
11:41 deltasquared   sy: yeah, and it's a mile away from the end point of a train I catch every day
11:41 deltasquared   so it kinda sucks that I couldn't find anyone to accompany me
11:42 deltasquared   also what is that booklet I spy in the right hand picture
11:42 deltasquared   well both of them actually
11:43 asl97          deltasquared: https://rubenwardy.com/freenode-live/
11:45 deltasquared   hmm, I should have a play with CTF at some point
11:49 asl97          sy, (cc: rubenwardy): Shouldn't there be some people who brought their own computer? you could setup a (private) local server, setup a hotspot if there isn't a network, provide a copy of the game if there no internet access, provide a copy of the world at the end of the event.
12:03 deltasquared   asl97: as long as you don't try to name the hotspot to confuse people with the venue wifi (if any)
12:04 deltasquared   IIRC there was something like that at FOSDEM where it was something like "fosdem wifi powered by google" but it was an MitM thing
12:05 deltasquared   !mod homedecor
12:05 MinetestBot    deltasquared: Home Decor [homedecor_modpack] by VanessaE - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=2041
12:05 deltasquared   ... oh, it's a modpack.
12:11 rubenwardy     There's WiFi but they blocked the minetest ports
12:11 rubenwardy     *they're not open
12:11 sy             why
12:11 asl97          rubenwardy: sound like firewall issue
12:12 rubenwardy     Yep
12:12 asl97          ether way, you could always just setup a hotspot.
12:12 rubenwardy     The it team is in the process of opening
12:12 sy             ask them to unblock them
12:12 rubenwardy     We have more laptops
12:12 sy             an
12:12 sy             ah*
12:13 deltasquared   rubenwardy: could be worse, at least the IT dep. there aren't on a power trip
12:14 Fixer          nice
12:27 rubenwardy     "so, you're a Minecraft rip off?" - one guy
12:32 Raven262       You need a giant sign saying: "Except for being a procedurally generated voxel game, this thing has nothing to do with Minecraft"
12:38 sy             why dont /w 10
12:38 sy             fuck
13:06 rubenwardy     https://twitter.com/rubenwardy/status/924260974458232832
13:06 rubenwardy     Quite strong
13:08 sy             hope ur not drinking and mining
13:13 Raven262       Why not, what could possibly go wrong? xD
13:16 lisac          rubenwardy, what mods did you add there? :)
13:17 rubenwardy     On the book? Rubenwardy.com/freenode-live
13:18 rubenwardy     On the monitor, we were planning to connect to a server but it's blocked so we had to panic install a few
13:18 rubenwardy     Currently ethereal and other worlds
13:21 lisac          toolranks? :P
13:21 lisac          no, but really, toolranks looks cool
13:28 deltasquared   !mod toolranks
13:28 MinetestBot    deltasquared: Tool ranks [toolranks] by lisacvuk - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=18056
13:44 rubenwardy     There are too many good mods to showcaee
13:44 rubenwardy     We just tried to show ones which are both diverse and visual as possible
13:45 rubenwardy     Which is why we chose protector over areas
13:45 deltasquared   rubenwardy: are you hoping to attract more devs to the game via your presence there?
13:46 rubenwardy     Yes
13:46 rubenwardy     We've had a few interested
13:48 deltasquared   I'm curious if any minecraft devs would be interested in branching out a bit... was it worldpainter where the guy said he's porting it from minecraft
13:48 deltasquared   !mod worldpainter
13:48 MinetestBot    deltasquared: Could not find anything.
13:48 deltasquared   hmm
13:51 rubenwardy     No MC devs as such
13:51 rubenwardy     A few players
13:52 rubenwardy     Most people haven't played it
13:52 Raven262       deltasquared, that wasn't a mod IIRC, it was in minetest related projects subforum.
15:08 Enriko         Here you are
15:08 Enriko         170 users, nice
15:08 homthack       yes
15:09 Enriko         the channel #minetest-de have more users than from another Country channels, but english is more, ist default
15:10 homthack       ready
15:11 Enriko         The channel: homthack isnt your language
15:11 Enriko         The channel #minetest-de isnt your language
15:11 Enriko         Thats only for german
15:12 homthack       ok
16:25 Fixer          rubenwardy: minetest stronk
19:16 salahzar       is there anybody knowing deeply lua programming as used by this link: http://uberi.mesecons.net/projects/Clock/index.html
19:17 deltasquared   I dunno about "deeply", there's not that much to lua once you have the basics of procedural programming, but I can certainly have a look
19:18 salahzar       my question is how this if event.type == "program" then   mem.accept = {[0]=true, [2]=true, [3]=true, [5]=true, [6]=true, [7]=true, [8]=true, [9]=true} elseif event.type == "digiline" then   port.a = mem.accept[event.msg.minute]   port.b, port.d = port.a, port.a end can seriously map to setting led segments correctly. I couldn't understand how this can work :(
19:18 salahzar       especially seems kind of magic : port.b, port.d = port.a, port.a
19:19 Krock          I cam imagine that this code would look much better with indents and proper line breaks in a pastebin
19:19 salahzar       what happens is that with input 1 port.a becomes false and the other ports become true and false as opposite :(
19:19 deltasquared   salahzar: is that the "top" controller code you're looking at there yeah?
19:19 salahzar       yes you can have a look at the page I posted before
19:19 salahzar       yep
19:21 deltasquared   salahzar: well bearing in mind that there's one controller program per row, it seems simple enough to me, it's basically determining if that row should be turned on for a given digit
19:21 Digit          eehehehehe.   tickles.
19:21 * deltasquared throws a CRT monitor at Digit
19:22 deltasquared   HAAAAAAAX!
19:22 deltasquared   ahem.
19:22 Digit          lol
19:22 deltasquared   salahzar: the if event.type == "program" bit is setting up which digits that controller should respond to
19:22 Krock          the code for each row has been optimized to make it as small as possible, that's why it looks a bit weird
19:23 Krock          deltasquared, rather, it sets up the translation table from minutes to port output
19:24 deltasquared   Krock: in the other ones yeah, I hadn't read further down
19:24 deltasquared   the top one just switches on/off as a whole.
19:25 deltasquared   hmm, I just had a cool idea for a digilines-to-mesecons bus expander a la redpower's bundled cables
19:27 Krock          here a even more sophisticated idea: a HDMI to water hose adapter https://www.schnatterente.net/img/articles/hama-hdmi-wasser1.jpg
19:28 deltasquared   Krock: ... fff I just hit the clear buffer key combo, can you link that again
19:28 Krock          http://shop.draemel.de/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/10155066_679358778786980_688824824_n.jpg
19:29 deltasquared   Krock: .... I cannot even comprehend why anyone would create this
19:30 Krock          And here's a self-pointing URL in case you cleared the buffer again: http://irc.minetest.net/minetest/2017-10-28#i_5122327
19:30 deltasquared   I don't want to remember this, my brain segfaults when I see it
19:30 Krock          deltasquared, me neither. Obviously works /s
19:34 salahzar       my problem is that I want to show this in a class on how to use mesecons in smart way to people who are just newbies
19:34 salahzar       and if I dont' understand how it works I can't try to teach others
19:35 salahzar       the url is taken from the "official" page of mesecon usage
19:35 deltasquared   I can't help there, I wouldn't attempt to teach unless  I had a solid grasp of the subject matter
19:35 salahzar       while I am not completely proficient in lua, I am a professional programmer in Java/Scala/C
19:36 Krock          index starts with 1
19:36 salahzar       and the lua lines I wrote appear complete wizardry to me :(
19:40 salahzar       what is for me incredible is that for some values, a is becoming null
19:40 salahzar       but b and d are acquiring some surprising values
19:41 deltasquared   salahzar: port is an output, it would be nil if you hadn't assigned it I would think (or I at least would not assume it had any value)
19:43 salahzar       port.a = mem.accept[event.msg.minute]   port.b, port.d = port.a, port.a
19:44 salahzar       when mem.accept cannot get the value and so it is null, port.a becomes false
19:44 salahzar       but port.b and port.d becomes one switched on and the other switched off
19:45 salahzar       and this is to me something quite weird
19:45 salahzar       is this something very peculiar to lua?
19:45 salahzar       nothing similar happens in java, scala or c++
19:46 salahzar       it is definitely counter intuitive ...
19:47 salahzar       I have observed this happening in my minetest world but could not understand the logic
19:48 Krock          $ salahzar checkout -b PMs
19:57 deltasquared   salahzar: your reasoning is correct, port b and d should be the same, you sure you've got it pointed the right way?
19:57 deltasquared   sometimes it can be daft things
19:59 salahzar       my intuition would be that they should be all off when 1 is launched on the digilines channel
19:59 salahzar       but what happens is that a goes off, but one of the other two is going on so to display the top line of 1
19:59 salahzar       which is what is needed, but I can't understand "why" :(
20:00 deltasquared   ... f'argh lost the link again
20:01 deltasquared   nvm found it
20:04 Krock          deltasquared, again? Why didn't you bookmark the HDMI to water hose image the last time ? :P
20:05 * deltasquared ties up Krock with a hose
20:06 deltasquared   phrasing intentional