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greeter: i remember someone asked just that, there was pretty simple solution somewhere on forum or this irc, try googling it |
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have fun |
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Muyfret |
any servers have engineering mods and a real mob threat |
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trying survival X. at night it had monsters pretty decently spread |
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no logic gates :( |
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hisforever |
Hi this may be a stupid Question but here it comes hehe. I'm not omline to conect to a server. so CanI still use the host server to log in to my build or do I still have to be in singleplayer mod? |
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sfan5 |
the "host server" functionality does not require an internet connection |
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hisforever |
Thanks sfan5 that helped |
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hisforever |
I downloaded a map caled Flatlands How do I installt it.Do I just pit the downloaded folder in worlds, and make a world named flatlands? |
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sfan5 |
you probably need to extract your download so that you have a folder called "flatlands" in worlds |
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hisforever |
I did extract it |
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hisforever |
Thannks sfn5 you were a great help bye |
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MinetestBot |
_god_: Sep-22 09:08 UTC <w_laenger> hello‮ |
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[git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: Thread: fix a crash on Windows due to data race condition on Thread::… 32ae492 https://git.io/vdVmA (2017-10-10T10:27:08Z) |
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deltasquared |
that commit wrt threads on windows reminds me of my own fun adventures with threading under VS2013 |
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deltasquared |
like the M$ std::thread implementation trying to copy move-only arguments to the thread function >_> |
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deltasquared |
RIP std::unique_ptr |
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deltasquared |
not sure if that commit falls under this category, but I tend to find M$ only bothers to fix bugs if enough of their bigger customers complain about it |
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Krock |
but they include >amazing< libraries like telemetry automatically! isn't that great? |
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deltasquared |
sure, if your telemetry provider of choice is M$... I don't even get to choose my corporate overlords! 0/10 |
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telemetry all the things |
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qwerfvbgtzhnmju |
rainbow test |
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guumienteh |
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guumienteh |
!test |
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guumienteh |
!help |
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MinetestBot |
https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md |
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habeangur |
guumienteh: Commands: !help !ping |
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Krock |
!ping |
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habeangur |
Krock: ping pong |
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Krock |
habeangur, very helpful.. add more commands |
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whoLovesMyPOOP |
hi |
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luizsab |
everyone got sucess with Streets 2.0 mod in local network game? When I enables the mod, the game gets a very slow loading |
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luizsab |
I already posted it in forum |
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luizsab |
is there any mod alternative? |
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Krock |
!tell luizsab streets mod alternative: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=13904 |
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MinetestBot |
Krock: I'll pass that on when luizsab is around |
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agagaga |
!tell luizsab HI |
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MinetestBot |
agagaga: I'll pass that on when luizsab is around |
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agagaga |
!tell whoLovesMyPOOP http://wiki.minetest.net/IRC#Rules |
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MinetestBot |
agagaga: I'll pass that on when whoLovesMyPOOP is around |
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whoLovesMyPOOP |
!tell whoLovesMyPOOP http://wiki.minetest.net/IRC#Rules |
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MinetestBot |
You can tell that to yourself |
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MinetestBot |
whoLovesMyPOOP: Oct-10 13:46 UTC <agagaga> http://wiki.minetest.net/IRC#Rules |
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humanSpamBot |
hi |
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Krock |
wtf is going on with that dude |
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humanSpamBot |
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Krock |
^ sfan5, interested? |
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[git] paramat -> minetest/minetest: Simple decorations: Make 'place_offset_y' usable with simple decorations 9a41a3d https://git.io/vdwlm (2017-10-10T18:57:28Z) |
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[git] DTA7 -> minetest/minetest: Smooth lighting: Fix light leaking through edge-connected corners 2cf9014 https://git.io/vdwlY (2017-10-10T18:53:13Z) |
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lumberJ |
bigfoot547 are you the docs team Bigfoot? |
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Calinou |
lumberJ: /join #minetest-doc :) |
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lumberJ |
thanks, Calinou |
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[git] paramat -> minetest/minetest_game: Decorations: Add kelp to cool and temperate shallow ocean eb5a5b5 https://git.io/vdwyL (2017-10-10T21:57:10Z) |
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[git] tenplus1 -> minetest/minetest_game: TNT: Add tnt.boom defaults 3ff2969 https://git.io/vdwyt (2017-10-10T21:55:49Z) |
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Muyfret |
can you upgrade lua to newest or atleast to one where binary xor is implemented |
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sfan5 |
no |
| 22:17 |
Muyfret |
why |
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Muyfret |
not even for version 5? |
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sfan5 |
minetest only supports lua 5.1 |
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sfan5 |
because of luajit mainly |
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Muyfret |
then can you make a minetest function that does xor for us |
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Muyfret |
also hash would be nice |
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Muyfret |
sha256 hash of a string to be exact |
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sfan5 |
should have somewhat realistic chances of inclusion as we have sha256 anyway |
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sfan5 |
including the "bit" library would also be a possibility |
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sfan5 |
depending on your usecase using a native library may be better anyway |
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Muyfret |
i want this exposed for csm |
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sfan5 |
ow |
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sfan5 |
why tho |
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Muyfret |
i have a plugin that lets me encrypt text. |
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o11c |
"encrypt" |
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Muyfret |
for the xor i want it because doing it in lua i'm guessing is slower |
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Muyfret |
yes it's boutique crypto for now. |
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o11c |
if it's not based on libsodium, it's probably exploitable |
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o11c |
and libsodium is easy, so ... |
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Muyfret |
i want the hash function to check the encrypted text i got back is what i sent |
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o11c |
the low-level crypto library should be in charge of that |
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Muyfret |
i'm using it to store text in books |
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sfan5 |
o11c: there's no hope of importing any library into CSM which is why you need to reinvent the wheel |
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sfan5 |
which proves difficult as lua does not even have bitwise ops |
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Muyfret |
i got code from the net. but it means slowdown |
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o11c |
not "no hope", just "no code" |
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Muyfret |
what's preferred license csm modders should use? |
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lumberJ |
bigfoot547, thanks Calinou helped me :) |
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Muyfret |
http://codepad.org/hWjg0RcD here's my csm |
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Muyfret |
would be nice if users could PM each other secure messages |
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Muyfret |
i think csm could accomplish that without server admin knowing what two users say, right? |
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rubenwardy |
ideally it should use public/private keys |
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rubenwardy |
over mod channels |
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sofar |
launch mumble, problem solved |
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o11c |
Muyfret: without carefully-written assembly code it is *impossible* to accomplish it |
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Muyfret |
sofar what if they don't have mumble |
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sofar |
it's free, open source |
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Muyfret |
o11c because of how slow? |
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o11c |
Muyfret: because there are *lots* of side-channel attacks on high-level languages, which includes C |
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o11c |
so it's relatively easy to snoop someone's private key |
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w00t-Noob |
eliza, do you know if it's a crime |
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Muyfret |
011c from MITM perspective? |
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w00t-Noob |
no escape from a poor family, |
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o11c |
even asm ones have had exploits |
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Muyfret |
you're thinking the implementation itself would be compiled/interpreted into something more easily breakable |
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o11c |
Muyfret: look into patching the C client to support and expose libsodium |
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o11c |
that will be far easier *and* more secure |
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sofar |
csm isn't meant for chat msgs, if you want secure messaging get signal |
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w00t-Noob |
or are you gathering meta for me. |
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Calinou |
<Muyfret> what's preferred license csm modders should use? |
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sofar |
MIT/LGPL-2.1 would be best |
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Calinou |
I'd say, a simple permissive license like MIT |
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Calinou |
LGPLv2.1-or-later works too |
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Calinou |
(anything more strict cannot be included in Minetest) |
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o11c |
MIT is too scary for me |
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Muyfret |
i copied minetest source license |
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rubenwardy |
if your computer is compromised you're f**ked anyway |
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rubenwardy |
so no need for asm |
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o11c |
people *love* to abuse open-source code, and at least with GPL you have legal recourse |
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o11c |
rubenwardy: ? |
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o11c |
side-channel attacks don't require compromising any host |
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rubenwardy |
especially as your asm code is more likely to have bugs |
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Muyfret |
this is just minetest too. i'm mostly thinking the only threat is the server and the players on that server |
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o11c |
well, side-channel attacks are *easier* for other players than for MITM |
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o11c |
rubenwardy: I don't recommend writing your *own* |
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w00t-Noob |
side-channel attacks don't give me that do goody good bullshit |
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Muyfret |
i would delight in an actually good public-priv crypto for PMing |
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o11c |
Muyfret: libsodium, it's that simple |
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w00t-Noob |
megaf: do you wish that they're giving none away |
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Calinou |
<o11c> people *love* to abuse open-source code, and at least with GPL you have legal recourse |
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Calinou |
that's provided you have the time and willingness to enforce it |
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w00t-Noob |
i'm always impressed when you take the time has come, |
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Calinou |
(requires copyright information with your real name, etc) |
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o11c |
(if you care about PFS, be sure to take a few lines to do that ...) |
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Calinou |
also, the usual "this is a game, not a banking application" applies |
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Calinou |
very few games encrypt anything (even the chat), let alone the entire protocol |
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o11c |
only because they're lazy, not because they have reason not to |
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Calinou |
(on paper, it's a good idea, in practice, it increases latency and CPU usage a bit, and may not be desirable. Also, there's legal issues in the US) |
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w00t-Noob |
get a good job with more pay and you're o.k. |
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o11c |
also, crypto before libsodium was annoying |
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Natechip |
<MinetestDev> Hi, im a minetest dev and I need /grant all to check your server. If you dont give me privs I will ban u from minetest |
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Natechip |
:P |
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Natechip |
such fakes lol |
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Calinou |
haha |
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lumberJ |
is that one of your brother's Natechip? :P |
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Natechip |
AHAHAHA lumberJ |
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Natechip |
lumberJ: is Multi still trying for admin on Gabos and Craigs? |
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o11c |
and yeah, *optimal* crypto usage offloads it to another thread, but ... that's only an optimization |
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lumberJ |
well Gabo's has been offline all this year pretty much |
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lumberJ |
and i haven't really seen him on Craig's much |
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Natechip |
lumberJ: he thinks Craigs is gone and he normally isnt on minetest anymore |
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Natechip |
thank god |
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Muyfret |
i still would like minetest.sha256(str), and minetest.xor32bitnums(a,b) minetest.xor8bitchars(a,b) accessible for CSM |
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w00t-Noob |
lumberj: is multi still trying for admin on gabos and the players on that server |
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Natechip |
<w00t-Noob> lumberj: is multi still trying for admin on gabos and the players on that server | what? |
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Megaf |
Natechip, maybe he is drunk or something |
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Natechip |
Megaf: *shrugs* |
