Time  Nick           Message
00:18 jas_           hmmmm https://i.redd.it/lkghldqnh2qz.jpg
00:35 BBmine         Hi
00:35 jas_           greetings
07:26 sare_at_work   Hi, does anyone knows how the digistuff:touchscreen works?
14:23 JayTheNinja23  hi
14:57 fireglow       rubenwardy: could you please explain your mod_debug.lua to me? I don't know how it works, where the conflicts are reported. Should there be "[RECIPE ERROR]" printed in the server log?
15:07 deltasquared   oh hey fireglow, how goes the lua tinkering
15:08 rubenwardy     F
15:09 rubenwardy     fireflow - it prints out recipe error lines when it detects a missing inctedirnt
15:09 rubenwardy     Inctedirnt*
15:09 rubenwardy     Ingredient**
15:09 rubenwardy     Wow, amazing
15:21 fireglow       rubenwardy: ooh ok thanks, just seen it.. The dofile error is normal, yes?
15:21 fireglow       deltasquared: not so good :D
15:22 fireglow       atm cleaning up old mods and their recipes
15:22 fireglow       !mod cottages
15:22 MinetestBot    fireglow: cottages [cottages] (medieval, farming, country life) by Sokomine - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=5120
15:22 deltasquared   well I was just arguing with my project supervisor over some elements he wanted in there that I didn't agree with
15:22 deltasquared   so I'm a tad knee-jerky right now, be warned :P
15:30 fireglow       ah hm
15:31 deltasquared   argh, I'm *not* going to vent my frustration on here. not not not
15:31 deltasquared   *kettle rising noises*
15:32 fireglow       punch the air a bit
15:32 fireglow       or the project supervisor
15:32 fireglow       your choice
15:34 deltasquared   I'd love to but I need him in one piece later :P
15:34 deltasquared   I think there are a few of my classmates that would do the same to this particular lecturer...
15:42 fireglow       Sokomine: please give your cottages mod some love :> The pull request from VanessaE for example
15:42 fireglow       also, there's a recipe conflict between dryplants:wetreed and cottages:reet
16:30 fireglow       !mod fences
16:30 MinetestBot    fireglow: More Fences [2013-08-12][morefences] by PenguinDad - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=6649
16:46 Sokomine       fireglow: it will get it in time. was a bit busy rl. my mods will get attention one after another. the most pressing issue is the circular saw in moreblocks plus support for hardware coloring
16:47 Sokomine       quite a lot of that is done but not all that's needed
16:48 Raven262       Wait, did you just say that you are adding hardware colouring to the circular saw? :O
17:58 MinetestBot    02[git] 04jastevenson303 -> 03minetest/minetest: settingtypes.txt: Update zoom description (#6443) 1300ceec9 https://git.io/vdE2J (152017-10-06T17:56:05Z)
18:26 I_             hello
18:27 whatYearIsIt   I thought the implementation of the inventory crafting system used hashmaps or something similar...
18:27 whatYearIsIt   https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/2596
18:28 whatYearIsIt   explanation https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2379
18:55 bigfoot547     whatYearIsIt: 2017
18:59 whatYearIsIt   $CURRENT_YEAR
19:00 sfan5          you mean $(date +%Y)
19:00 deltasquared   oh, shell commands, what did I miss?
19:02 deltasquared   also, trying to take log4j as a role model for an in-mod logging system... might not have been the greatest idea. suh over-engineered
19:05 whatYearIsIt   @sfan5
19:05 whatYearIsIt   I've been spending too much time on discord :3
19:24 sfan5          irc has neither @here nor @everyone thankfully
19:36 fireglow       !!!
19:54 fireglow       !mod soccer
19:54 MinetestBot    fireglow: Soccer [soccer] by Calinou - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=9662
20:01 fireglow       !mod ts_workshop
20:01 MinetestBot    fireglow: Could not find anything.
20:49 deltasquared   fireglow: by the way, you still using libmthelpers? I always try to avoid blowing stuff up but sometimes little things can be the gotchas, and I've never had anyone be using code I've written before
20:53 fireglow       deltasquared: ah there you are, yes I wanted to ask you if there's a standalone mod now for the node counting
20:54 deltasquared   fireglow: any particular reason? it can be arranged if desired, just curious
20:54 fireglow       nah, no need to create one
20:54 deltasquared   I'm prone to small packages, but just that on it's own felt a tad overkill
20:54 fireglow       on this setup here sometimes the paste won't work, I have no clue as to why that is
20:55 deltasquared   fireglow: the paste? I presumed you'd be using the one I put into libmthelpers. also define not working in this case
20:56 fireglow       no it's a minetest client issue, I can't paste text from the OS
20:56 deltasquared   paste issues are precisely why I put it into libmthelpers stats.lua :P
20:57 deltasquared   though even then you have to remember a bit to type to string the necessary functions together...
20:57 deltasquared   oh wait, I put a shortcut in there
20:58 deltasquared   so something like /lua modhelpers.stats.show_nodes_by_modname(print)
20:58 deltasquared   (if used via luacmd)
20:59 deltasquared   fireglow: so maybe not a standalone mod, but there is a shortcut so at least it's a one-liner.
21:04 fireglow       alright, cheers
21:04 fireglow       nah that onliner is alright
21:04 fireglow       one-liner
21:04 fireglow       oh no, the digitizer on my phone broke
21:04 deltasquared   fireglow: couldn't make it any shorter, print has to be passed depending on the contex I'm afraid
21:04 deltasquared   ... ouch.
21:04 fireglow       deltasquared: that's alright
21:05 deltasquared   though, it could make for cool stuff later on... I always imagined something daft like having a printer closure which adds data to a node formspec somewhere.
21:06 fireglow       we found out what caused the issue with streets, btw
21:06 deltasquared   oh yeah? was it a bug like suspected?
21:06 fireglow       If you want to improve loading time and reduce the number of registered nodes, you can set the setting streets.only_basic_stairsplus to true in minetest.conf
21:06 fireglow       it's not a bug, it's a feature!!
21:07 fireglow       why the mod would need 20k+ nodes is beyond me
21:07 fireglow       that is taken from https://github.com/minetest-streets/streets
21:07 deltasquared   indeed, what on minetest globe did it want that many nodes for
21:08 deltasquared   well sh- *cough* shizzles, didn't know entities could have highlight boxes and node-like drawtypes
21:08 deltasquared   that does open up possibilities for a sub-block/multipart mod somewhat
21:10 fireglow       https://fireglow.de/755/share/Screenshot_20171006-211843.png extra kaputt
21:10 deltasquared   awww, everyone else has cool domains...
21:11 fireglow       get one
21:11 deltasquared   fireglow: that the dead band in the middle?
21:11 deltasquared   ish
21:11 deltasquared   ok, it's to the right, but still
21:11 fireglow       yeah
21:11 Krock          needs more green
21:11 * deltasquared throws money at Krock
21:11 fireglow       it's a nexus4, so probably not worth to try and repair it
21:12 fireglow       nuu, give me the money for a new phone
21:12 * Krock        takes the money and burns it.. because why not?
21:12 fireglow       nooo
21:12 deltasquared   fireglow: but you pay the rest with your digital soul^W^W collected data though
21:12 fireglow       but the nexus phones are quite good software-wise, the nexus4 is still supported via lineageOS
21:13 fireglow       yeah
21:13 fireglow       name a platform that doesn't datamine
21:13 deltasquared   GNU/linux? :P
21:13 deltasquared   oh sorry, "commercially relevant"
21:14 dzho           uh
21:14 deltasquared   ...hmm?
21:15 dzho           this is sort of a who-mines-the-miners kind of question ... no one, because GNU/Linux is what a great deal of them use to mine our data.
21:15 dzho           not just commercial relevant, but commercially dominant.
21:15 deltasquared   dzho: end-user commercially relevant, then
21:16 dzho           Linux, then, without the GNU
21:17 deltasquared   dzho: I think fireglow's point was an end-user platform (which I can only assume was intended to mean OS environment) which doesn't data mine, and I considered that GNU/linux is still percieved to be a minority for end users
21:18 fireglow       in particular a broadly available mobile platform :>
21:18 deltasquared   everything is in the mobile segment these days... *sigh*
21:18 fireglow       google, microsoft, apple; I don't trust any of them
21:19 deltasquared   I only trust using M$ stuff when it's not me administering it, namely university IT. though I suspect the IT dept are still being quietly screwed over somehow
21:19 deltasquared   in that case though, if my university work gets leaked, I can say it was M$'s fault for leaving holes everywhere :P
21:20 fireglow       what bugs me most (and uni spending falls into this, at least in some countries) that governments are spending millions on microsoft, are being held ransom by microsoft
21:21 fireglow       instead if investing in open source
21:21 deltasquared   hmm, maybe I should write to my MP... I'm sure the conservatives would be interested in anything that helps with the national budget right now ;)
21:22 deltasquared   though, apparently UK gov already uses libreoffice formats internally for interop purposes... I forgot where I saw that
21:23 deltasquared   needless to say, anything they do to release themselves (and some of it ripples out to the public too) of such shackles would elicit words to the effect of "that's the smartest government policy decision I've heard in my lifetime" from myself
21:23 deltasquared   though maybe we should keep political stuff out of #minetest, hmm? ;)
21:27 fireglow       hehe
21:30 deltasquared   talk tomorrow, must run fast byeeeeee
21:53 Sokomine       Raven262: er, yes. i'm working on adding hardware coloring to the saw. there are still some open issues but there's progress
21:56 * Sokomine     gives krock some green minegeld
22:01 fireglow       oh Sokomine, re:cottages Cool! :)
22:46 MinetestBot    02[git] 04DS-Minetest -> 03minetest-mods/mesecons: Handle blasts (#356) 13905260c https://git.io/vdum6 (152017-10-06T22:44:49Z)
23:41 jas_           !dice
23:41 sfan5          there's !rand
23:41 sfan5          !help
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23:41 habeangur      sfan5: Commands: !help !ping
23:41 sfan5          habeangur: u wot
23:41 jas_           sweet
23:42 jas_           !rand 1 6
23:42 MinetestBot    3
23:50 swift110       hey all