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00:18 jas_ hmmmm https://i.redd.it/lkghldqnh2qz.jpg
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00:35 BBmine Hi
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07:26 sare_at_work Hi, does anyone knows how the digistuff:touchscreen works?
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14:23 JayTheNinja23 hi
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14:57 fireglow rubenwardy: could you please explain your mod_debug.lua to me? I don't know how it works, where the conflicts are reported. Should there be "[RECIPE ERROR]" printed in the server log?
15:07 deltasquared oh hey fireglow, how goes the lua tinkering
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15:08 rubenwardy F
15:09 rubenwardy fireflow - it prints out recipe error lines when it detects a missing inctedirnt
15:09 rubenwardy Inctedirnt*
15:09 rubenwardy Ingredient**
15:09 rubenwardy Wow, amazing
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15:21 fireglow rubenwardy: ooh ok thanks, just seen it.. The dofile error is normal, yes?
15:21 fireglow deltasquared: not so good :D
15:22 fireglow atm cleaning up old mods and their recipes
15:22 fireglow !mod cottages
15:22 MinetestBot fireglow: cottages [cottages] (medieval, farming, country life) by Sokomine - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=5120
15:22 deltasquared well I was just arguing with my project supervisor over some elements he wanted in there that I didn't agree with
15:22 deltasquared so I'm a tad knee-jerky right now, be warned :P
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15:30 fireglow ah hm
15:31 deltasquared argh, I'm *not* going to vent my frustration on here. not not not
15:31 deltasquared *kettle rising noises*
15:32 fireglow punch the air a bit
15:32 fireglow or the project supervisor
15:32 fireglow your choice
15:34 deltasquared I'd love to but I need him in one piece later :P
15:34 deltasquared I think there are a few of my classmates that would do the same to this particular lecturer...
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15:42 fireglow Sokomine: please give your cottages mod some love :> The pull request from VanessaE for example
15:42 fireglow also, there's a recipe conflict between dryplants:wetreed and cottages:reet
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16:30 fireglow !mod fences
16:30 MinetestBot fireglow: More Fences [2013-08-12][morefences] by PenguinDad - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=6649
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16:46 Sokomine fireglow: it will get it in time. was a bit busy rl. my mods will get attention one after another. the most pressing issue is the circular saw in moreblocks plus support for hardware coloring
16:47 Sokomine quite a lot of that is done but not all that's needed
16:48 Raven262 Wait, did you just say that you are adding hardware colouring to the circular saw? :O
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17:58 MinetestBot [git] jastevenson303 -> minetest/minetest: settingtypes.txt: Update zoom description (#6443) 00ceec9 https://git.io/vdE2J (2017-10-06T17:56:05Z)
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18:26 I_ hello
18:27 whatYearIsIt I thought the implementation of the inventory crafting system used hashmaps or something similar...
18:27 whatYearIsIt https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/2596
18:28 whatYearIsIt explanation https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2379
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18:55 bigfoot547 whatYearIsIt: 2017
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18:59 whatYearIsIt $CURRENT_YEAR
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19:00 sfan5 you mean $(date +%Y)
19:00 deltasquared oh, shell commands, what did I miss?
19:02 deltasquared also, trying to take log4j as a role model for an in-mod logging system... might not have been the greatest idea. suh over-engineered
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19:05 whatYearIsIt @sfan5
19:05 whatYearIsIt I've been spending too much time on discord :3
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19:24 sfan5 irc has neither @here nor @everyone thankfully
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19:36 fireglow !!!
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19:54 fireglow !mod soccer
19:54 MinetestBot fireglow: Soccer [soccer] by Calinou - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=9662
20:01 fireglow !mod ts_workshop
20:01 MinetestBot fireglow: Could not find anything.
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20:49 deltasquared fireglow: by the way, you still using libmthelpers? I always try to avoid blowing stuff up but sometimes little things can be the gotchas, and I've never had anyone be using code I've written before
20:53 fireglow deltasquared: ah there you are, yes I wanted to ask you if there's a standalone mod now for the node counting
20:54 deltasquared fireglow: any particular reason? it can be arranged if desired, just curious
20:54 fireglow nah, no need to create one
20:54 deltasquared I'm prone to small packages, but just that on it's own felt a tad overkill
20:54 fireglow on this setup here sometimes the paste won't work, I have no clue as to why that is
20:55 deltasquared fireglow: the paste? I presumed you'd be using the one I put into libmthelpers. also define not working in this case
20:56 fireglow no it's a minetest client issue, I can't paste text from the OS
20:56 deltasquared paste issues are precisely why I put it into libmthelpers stats.lua :P
20:57 deltasquared though even then you have to remember a bit to type to string the necessary functions together...
20:57 deltasquared oh wait, I put a shortcut in there
20:58 deltasquared so something like /lua modhelpers.stats.show_nodes_by_modname(print)
20:58 deltasquared (if used via luacmd)
20:59 deltasquared fireglow: so maybe not a standalone mod, but there is a shortcut so at least it's a one-liner.
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21:04 fireglow alright, cheers
21:04 fireglow nah that onliner is alright
21:04 fireglow one-liner
21:04 fireglow oh no, the digitizer on my phone broke
21:04 deltasquared fireglow: couldn't make it any shorter, print has to be passed depending on the contex I'm afraid
21:04 deltasquared ... ouch.
21:04 fireglow deltasquared: that's alright
21:05 deltasquared though, it could make for cool stuff later on... I always imagined something daft like having a printer closure which adds data to a node formspec somewhere.
21:06 fireglow we found out what caused the issue with streets, btw
21:06 deltasquared oh yeah? was it a bug like suspected?
21:06 fireglow If you want to improve loading time and reduce the number of registered nodes, you can set the setting streets.only_basic_stairsplus to true in minetest.conf
21:06 fireglow it's not a bug, it's a feature!!
21:07 fireglow why the mod would need 20k+ nodes is beyond me
21:07 fireglow that is taken from https://github.com/minetest-streets/streets
21:07 deltasquared indeed, what on minetest globe did it want that many nodes for
21:08 deltasquared well sh- *cough* shizzles, didn't know entities could have highlight boxes and node-like drawtypes
21:08 deltasquared that does open up possibilities for a sub-block/multipart mod somewhat
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21:10 fireglow https://fireglow.de/755/share/​Screenshot_20171006-211843.png extra kaputt
21:10 deltasquared awww, everyone else has cool domains...
21:11 fireglow get one
21:11 deltasquared fireglow: that the dead band in the middle?
21:11 deltasquared ish
21:11 deltasquared ok, it's to the right, but still
21:11 fireglow yeah
21:11 Krock needs more green
21:11 * deltasquared throws money at Krock
21:11 fireglow it's a nexus4, so probably not worth to try and repair it
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21:12 fireglow nuu, give me the money for a new phone
21:12 * Krock takes the money and burns it.. because why not?
21:12 fireglow nooo
21:12 deltasquared fireglow: but you pay the rest with your digital soul^W^W collected data though
21:12 fireglow but the nexus phones are quite good software-wise, the nexus4 is still supported via lineageOS
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21:13 fireglow yeah
21:13 fireglow name a platform that doesn't datamine
21:13 deltasquared GNU/linux? :P
21:13 deltasquared oh sorry, "commercially relevant"
21:14 dzho uh
21:14 deltasquared ...hmm?
21:15 dzho this is sort of a who-mines-the-miners kind of question ... no one, because GNU/Linux is what a great deal of them use to mine our data.
21:15 dzho not just commercial relevant, but commercially dominant.
21:15 deltasquared dzho: end-user commercially relevant, then
21:16 dzho Linux, then, without the GNU
21:17 deltasquared dzho: I think fireglow's point was an end-user platform (which I can only assume was intended to mean OS environment) which doesn't data mine, and I considered that GNU/linux is still percieved to be a minority for end users
21:18 fireglow in particular a broadly available mobile platform :>
21:18 deltasquared everything is in the mobile segment these days... *sigh*
21:18 fireglow google, microsoft, apple; I don't trust any of them
21:19 deltasquared I only trust using M$ stuff when it's not me administering it, namely university IT. though I suspect the IT dept are still being quietly screwed over somehow
21:19 deltasquared in that case though, if my university work gets leaked, I can say it was M$'s fault for leaving holes everywhere :P
21:20 fireglow what bugs me most (and uni spending falls into this, at least in some countries) that governments are spending millions on microsoft, are being held ransom by microsoft
21:21 fireglow instead if investing in open source
21:21 deltasquared hmm, maybe I should write to my MP... I'm sure the conservatives would be interested in anything that helps with the national budget right now ;)
21:22 deltasquared though, apparently UK gov already uses libreoffice formats internally for interop purposes... I forgot where I saw that
21:23 deltasquared needless to say, anything they do to release themselves (and some of it ripples out to the public too) of such shackles would elicit words to the effect of "that's the smartest government policy decision I've heard in my lifetime" from myself
21:23 deltasquared though maybe we should keep political stuff out of #minetest, hmm? ;)
21:27 fireglow hehe
21:30 deltasquared talk tomorrow, must run fast byeeeeee
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21:53 Sokomine Raven262: er, yes. i'm working on adding hardware coloring to the saw. there are still some open issues but there's progress
21:56 * Sokomine gives krock some green minegeld
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22:01 fireglow oh Sokomine, re:cottages Cool! :)
22:46 MinetestBot [git] DS-Minetest -> minetest-mods/mesecons: Handle blasts (#356) 905260c https://git.io/vdum6 (2017-10-06T22:44:49Z)
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23:41 jas_ !dice
23:41 sfan5 there's !rand
23:41 sfan5 !help
23:41 MinetestBot https://github.com/sfan5/minetestb​ot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md
23:41 habeangur sfan5: Commands: !help !ping
23:41 sfan5 habeangur: u wot
23:41 jas_ sweet
23:42 jas_ !rand 1 6
23:42 MinetestBot 3
23:50 swift110 hey all
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