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00:29 jas_ minetest only uses openal for sound, yes?  that's it, nothing else?
00:31 jas_ hm, i wonder if/when/how openal resamples all the various files.  at all once or repeatedly
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00:39 dogetest !help
00:39 MinetestBot https://github.com/sfan5/minetestb​ot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md
00:39 habeangur dogetest: Commands: !help !ping
00:42 dogetest I wish I could search servers by theirs mods
00:44 rubenwardy you can hover over and see what mods they have here: http://servers.minetest.net/
00:44 rubenwardy and you can search for mods here, but not in a very nice way: http://servers.minetest.net/
00:44 rubenwardy oops
00:45 rubenwardy and you can search for mods here, but not in a very nice way: http://servers.minetest.net/list
00:45 dogetest some of them are bigger than my screen
00:46 dogetest Didnt knew of /list
01:12 Lone-Star my dragon loves crickets
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04:40 Elon_Satoshi Anybody play Legend of Minetest?
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06:43 kolibri_user Very intesting OS
06:44 CWz definitly. not very useful on modern pcs though
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09:03 jas_ https://twitch.tv/jastvn
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12:47 jas_ hi
12:47 * deltasquared waves
12:48 * jas_ plays with waves
12:48 deltasquared SONIC WAVES
12:48 deltasquared err
12:48 jas_ play * norm -3 rate 48000 lowpass 6666
12:50 Krock why even 48kHz if you cut off most of it after 6.6kHz ?
12:50 jas_ i'm just goofing around and streaming too
12:50 jas_ and did u know that openal resets connections every time the main menu is reloaded?
12:51 deltasquared jas_: does that mean something for your streaming setup
12:51 Krock yes, already seen the verbose output a couple times
12:51 deltasquared I personally found it annoying when FF reconnected to pulseaudio after playing invididual sounds, so the volume always reset itself :/
12:51 jas_ ff?  firefox?
12:51 deltasquared yes sorry
12:51 jas_ playing with jack and pulseaudio and openal is fun.
12:52 jas_ and sounds off of archive.org.  otherwise twitch mutes the audio
12:52 deltasquared try having the messenger sound play at 100% volume when you've got the volume way up but invididual streams lowered so they mix without clipping
12:52 deltasquared MY EARS
12:55 jas_ : )
12:55 jas_ mine too
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12:59 jas_ you have to resample them because some are at 11khz
12:59 jas_ it throws an error in sox anyway
13:00 deltasquared who the hell samples at 11- oh, is it 11,025hz by any chance, that'd figure
13:00 deltasquared 44100 / 4
13:11 jas_ gotta be less than half the sampling rate i guess
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14:00 deltasquared hey, does the channel bot on here have the facility to leave messages?
14:00 deltasquared !help
14:00 MinetestBot https://github.com/sfan5/minetestb​ot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md
14:00 habeangur deltasquared: Commands: !help !ping
14:00 Krock deltasquared: Commands: !help !no !yes !8ball
14:01 deltasquared bah.
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14:01 deltasquared I was just going to keep VanessaE updated on what I was doing to pipeworks
14:02 Krock MTB and ShadowBot support each !tell or ~tell
14:03 Krock even freenode has this functionality for registered members, called MemoServ
14:03 deltasquared Krock: hmm, I never really looked into the network services anyway
14:03 Krock time to do so :P
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14:03 deltasquared "offline at the moment" hrm
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14:04 deltasquared !tell VanessaE I've currently re-implemented the pressure balancing mechanism on all pipe nodes, though it currently runs indepently
14:04 MinetestBot deltasquared: I'll pass that on when VanessaE is around
14:05 deltasquared that should trigger whe she speaks next I would assume
14:05 deltasquared not everyone reads all the scrollback :/
14:05 VanessaE zzz
14:05 MinetestBot VanessaE: Sep-27 14:04 UTC <deltasquared> I've currently re-implemented the pressure balancing mechanism on all pipe nodes, though it currently runs indepently
14:05 deltasquared haha.
14:05 VanessaE ZzzzzZZ....snx-x-x-x....zzz...*snork*  hm...wha?   zzzzz
14:06 * deltasquared pokes VanessaE again
14:06 VanessaE ow.  poke *there* again and you'll be less one finger :P
14:06 deltasquared eep.
14:06 VanessaE I got your PMs, just haven't had a chance to reply
14:06 deltasquared right, sorry.
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14:52 rdococ HELLO
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14:56 deltasquared yellow?
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14:57 rdococ BLUE?
14:58 Krock I'm blue
14:58 rdococ green
14:59 JayTheNinja23 I am red
14:59 rdococ yay, Krock and deltasquared merged into green!
14:59 rdococ I'm, um, yellowish purplish... red.
14:59 JayTheNinja23 good
15:00 * JayTheNinja23 is doing well
15:00 deltasquared what colour scheme are you on? I'm perfectly red, pretty sure, and Krock is purple
15:00 deltasquared oi
15:00 rdococ swore Krock was blue...wait.
15:00 Krock not surprising that you're red. You're always red in HexChat
15:00 deltasquared oh right. :P
15:00 Krock but for me you're really red xD
15:00 rdococ no, I'm always red in HexChat, you're all blue :P
15:01 rdococ and not even different shades, lol
15:01 Krock I doubt this color stuff bases on a hash of the nickname
15:01 JayTheNinja23 I think so
15:01 JayTheNinja23 Only the admins of this server are green
15:01 * rdococ hashes Krock
15:01 JayTheNinja23 Krock
15:01 Krock 0xBADBEEF
15:02 JayTheNinja23 ?
15:02 Krock ^ here, rdococ
15:02 JayTheNinja23 kkk
15:02 rdococ 0xDEADBEEF
15:02 rdococ 0xGULLIBLE
15:02 Krock 0xBADCOFFEEBABE
15:02 JayTheNinja23 server port for hexchat: daconcepts.com/6667
15:02 rdococ nice O
15:02 rdococ 0xBADC0FFEEBABE
15:02 Krock rdococ, nice L
15:03 JayTheNinja23 channel = #minetestforfun-skyblock
15:03 * JayTheNinja23 is waiting there
15:03 * Krock isn't
15:03 * JayTheNinja23 why??/
15:03 JayTheNinja23 ?
15:03 * rdococ isn't not avoiding the concept of not refraining from being there.
15:03 Krock I don't play on VE's servers
15:03 rdococ why not?
15:04 JayTheNinja23 do you know who is celeron55?
15:04 rdococ JayTheNinja23, does anyone here NOT know who celeron55 is?
15:04 Krock that's some random dood who likes to put himself into the wiki all the time
15:04 JayTheNinja23 I know
15:04 rdococ exactly :P
15:04 Krock thinks he's "famous" or "known"
15:04 JayTheNinja23 rdococ?
15:05 rdococ sorry, my sarcasm detection module is under maintenance, you'll have to tell me
15:05 JayTheNinja23 how do you change your color?
15:05 rdococ by dousing yourself with paint
15:05 jas_ http://minetest.fensta.bplaced.net/#name=C55
15:05 JayTheNinja23 how?
15:05 rdococ preferably unleaded paint - maybe diesel
15:05 JayTheNinja23 learn me please
15:05 Krock use correction tape and put it on the screen
15:05 Krock then re-colorize
15:06 Krock </shitpost>
15:06 rdococ no, you're meant to use GIMP, an open-source camera and an open-source dark magic ritual
15:06 JayTheNinja23 kkk
15:06 JayTheNinja23 let me try
15:08 JayTheNinja23 I don't know
15:08 JayTheNinja23 How ?
15:08 JayTheNinja23 Is a command?
15:08 JayTheNinja23 please help me
15:09 rdococ oh, it only works in open-source universes
15:09 rdococ are you in an open-source universe?
15:09 JayTheNinja23 what is that?
15:09 jas_ "Second Life"
15:09 rdococ heh
15:09 JayTheNinja23 I didn't understand
15:09 JayTheNinja23 sry
15:09 * JayTheNinja23 is so sad
15:09 jas_ you're not alone.  you trying to change your skin/appearance?
15:09 rdococ jas_: yes, but that's fictional, you need a real one so you can get colored in this universe
15:10 * jas_ implodes
15:10 rdococ jas_, I think he's joking but I'm not sure
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15:10 rdococ uh
15:10 jas_ oh
15:10 rdococ crust
15:10 rdococ is C + Rust
15:10 jas_ i was thinking spaghettios
15:11 Krock SpaghettiOS.. programmed entirely with "goto" instructions?
15:12 jas_ haha! yes, that's it.  i wouldn't be surprised if that was a thing, or will be.  sounds delicious
15:12 rdococ lol
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15:13 jas_ https://github.com/minetest/minetest​/commit/a455297d297c0819a7eff89e51e5​f01a5ac731c3#commitcomment-24600784 i'm so dumb wahhhh
15:13 jas_ (haha jk, but what does he mean i wonder lol)
15:15 Krock > 3D wave, uses square function
15:16 Krock however, could be true, but I don't know tbh :3
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15:17 jas_ i wonder if he tried it.  maybe i will it would be a fun challenge
15:17 rdococ ehe
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15:18 jas_ https://youtu.be/jya4geS4eEk?t=27m40s
15:34 jas_ openal is (c) 2007 by creative labs, lol.  mm i had a defective sb16 >_<  and i had to play doom with pc speaker or else it'd randomly crash
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15:43 Krock bye
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16:06 jas_ it's weird how sounds disappear suddenly: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/177892434
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16:08 CalebDavis how do you dissable dungeon gen with lua
16:11 Krock minetest.set_mapgen_setting("mg_flags", "caves, nodungeons, nolight, decorations") or similar
16:12 Krock ^ CalebDavis
16:12 CalebDavis ok thx
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16:26 Out`Of`Control Hi
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16:27 Out`Of`Control dirt does not turn into dirt_with_grass.
16:27 jas_ well, it needs grass around it in order to do so
16:27 jas_ it turns into dry grass if dry grass is around, or green grass if that's around.  if there isn't anything adjacent it stays dirt..
16:28 Out`Of`Control there is huge area only dirt, other huge area dirt_with_grass only 1 chunk dirt in middle
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16:32 jas_ https://github.com/minetest/minetest​/blob/a455297d297c0819a7eff89e51e5f0​1a5ac731c3/src/sound_openal.cpp#L659 <-- this reference distance stayed 30, but createPlayingSoundAt got reference distance changed to 10.0f.  i wonder if that matters
16:32 jas_ (this is fun, i'm glad the sound source files are small, except i didn't look in script/)
16:33 Krock grass and snowy grass only spreads along a 3x3x3 area
16:33 Krock (around the main node)
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16:36 Out`Of`Control it does not work
16:39 Out`Of`Control does it matter how node was placed? WE or node replace tool
16:39 Out`Of`Control dirt*
16:46 Krock strange enough, I can't find the code either
16:51 jas_ https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/b​lob/master/mods/default/functions.lua#L393 ?
16:52 Krock just found it too. was looking for dirt_with_grass
16:56 Out`Of`Control Krock:  i think i found. somehow when i place dirt with WE or node replace tool. it does not turn into grass
16:56 Out`Of`Control works fine when placed by hand
16:56 Krock the ABM function says something else
16:57 Krock no matter how it's placed, if there's grass nearby, it'll spread
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16:59 jas_ if there's light (?)
17:00 Taose Stay away from the light, it's just an illusion
17:00 jas_ if light is less than 13 it doesn't spread, i think
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17:23 jas_ so i observed carts can be heard some 30 nodes away, doors and chests only 10.  i really don't know there's a difference in the sound of the doors with this positional change tbh
17:26 Krock jas_, lolwat? All light sources spread - depends on the value how far they do
17:26 Krock nvm, wrong context, sorry :3
17:26 Taose Carts being louder than doors is perfectly normal
17:27 Taose If anything they should be louder...
17:27 jas_ https://www.twitch.tv/videos/177910614
17:28 Taose ...
17:28 jas_ i'm observing sound played at a location versus attached to an object
17:28 * Taose is the only person in the world Twitch doesn't work for apparently
17:28 jas_ i just thought it was interesting
17:29 jas_ why doesn't twitch work for you taose?
17:30 jas_ i use an old build of obs
17:31 jas_ (i did a pretty crude test, there, but it seems to me the door is actually 0.5 db louder now.)
17:31 jas_ hhehe o/
17:39 Taose No idea jas_ , it just comes up with the logo and that's pretty much all it does
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17:39 theboy222 bonjour
17:39 Taose I assume it must be heavily script based, which are filtered out elsewhere in the network
17:40 Taose (lots of things don't work for me)
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17:43 rdococ ayy
17:50 MinetestBot [git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: Add session_t typedef + remove unused functions (#6470) ad7daf7 https://git.io/vdmwr (2017-09-27T17:47:36Z)
17:51 twoelk Taose did you ask for greyscale hightmap inports?
17:52 twoelk WorldPainter -> https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?f=14&amp;t=16649 might help as it can build maps from hightmaps and can export to minetest
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17:55 Taose I'll take a look at that :) Thanks
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19:19 Taose It looks like I have to waiit for WorldPainter to be useful for Minetest?
19:19 deltasquared !mod worldpainter
19:19 MinetestBot deltasquared: Could not find anything.
19:20 deltasquared Taose: which one was that again
19:20 Taose https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.p​hp?f=14&amp;t=16649&amp;sid=7fcd88382e​59c7c0951710a041481d0b&amp;start=125
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19:21 deltasquared Taose: I'm not familiar with the mod from... the *other* block game that he's referring to
19:22 Taose Neither am I
19:25 sfan5 Taose: experimental working support is already available
19:25 deltasquared I'd still have to look up what worldpainter is supposed to be.
19:26 sfan5 also it's probably easier to convince some dev to write a luamapgen that imports from a bmp heightmap
19:26 deltasquared I never did like lua mapgens, blocking the event thread up...
19:26 deltasquared v7 certainly has come along enough for me not to care
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19:29 Taose If I'm not prepared to pay for it, I'm not gonna go begging for scraps
19:30 Taose While a lua map gen that would import from a height map would be useful, there are apparently mods in the works that would solve the issue
19:30 Taose it's just a matter of waiting for the devs to get around to completing them
19:41 twoelk you can also generate a mc-map with worldpainter and convert that by using some of the other tools mentioned in that thread
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19:49 Taose Unfortunately the height map I want to use goes beyond the minecraft range apparently
19:50 twoelk :-(
19:50 Taose It's just a case of waiting
19:50 twoelk well I did use the plugin script he provided and it worked well enough for a simple map
19:51 twoelk you will have to try some tweaking though to get the waterlevel right and somewhat pleasing borders
20:00 Taose Probably
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20:44 MinetestBot [git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: Lint fix 43951cf https://git.io/vdmNd (2017-09-27T20:41:50Z)
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21:04 MinetestBot [git] paramat -> minetest/minetest: Fix recent commit: std::max -> std::fmax for floats (#6469) 0df3671 https://git.io/vdmpl (2017-09-27T21:03:41Z)
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21:49 MinetestBot [git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: Fix some forgotten u16 -> session_t in ad7daf7b52348e1b71aa803be10de5… 27eeb35 https://git.io/vdYJe (2017-09-27T21:48:12Z)
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22:02 redblade7 how do you hide the map again?
22:08 redblade7 the minimap in the upper right hand corner
22:12 sofar F10? F9? one of those two :)
22:13 rubenwardy F9 :D
22:22 redblade7 btw i was just informed of a new counterfeit client
22:22 redblade7 "Block Craft" and it's a chinese client
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22:27 sofar it's open source, how can it be "counterfeit" ?
22:27 sofar lol
22:27 sofar you mean "gpl violating"
22:30 sofar redblade7: "block craft" or "block craft 3d" ?
22:33 redblade7 he just said "block craft"
22:33 redblade7 i just say "counterfeit" to discourage people
22:34 redblade7 and it's not the real thing, even though it's not illegal
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