Time Nick Message 00:00 Wuzzy like you said, the nether, hades, 00:00 Asad3ainJalout although, i may avoid that and just install the asteroids one that just adds asteroids and comets 00:00 Wuzzy Asad3ainJalout: jeez. just. try. it. ouT! already! duuude 00:00 Lone-Star found the space and nether mods lacking. if you are thinking it will be the same as minecraft, you will be disappointed 00:01 Wuzzy Well MineClone 2 has the Nether, too. I almost like it. XD 00:01 Asad3ainJalout Lone-Star: they won't be, but i want to add a change of scenery, so far, minetest seems to have the best engine (lighter, faster, more customizeable) however it lacks in terms of content 00:01 Asad3ainJalout this is due to smaller non fulltime/professional dev team followed by smaller community so less modders 00:01 Asad3ainJalout that being said, i use open source for more reasons than it looks pretty 00:02 Wuzzy Minetest does not really lack in content. Minetest GAME lacks in content 00:02 Asad3ainJalout Wuzzy: the mobs in minetest are nowhere near the level of mobs made in minecraft mods and heck the base game 00:03 Asad3ainJalout the sound effects, visuals and overall aesthetics and polish of movement are all better in minecraft 00:03 Wuzzy yeah, mobs DO suck 00:03 Wuzzy well, minetest DOES lack in features 00:03 Asad3ainJalout the technical mods are better in minecraft 00:03 Asad3ainJalout as wella sth e magic 00:03 Asad3ainJalout but once again 00:03 Wuzzy "technical mods"? 00:03 Asad3ainJalout i use minetest cause at it's core it's better 00:03 Wuzzy I like Mesecons much more than redstone, just from the concept 00:03 Asad3ainJalout I will need to play more with mesecons 00:03 Wuzzy mesecons needs a bit polish but overall its great 00:04 Asad3ainJalout ANYWAYS let me get the maggen setup :D 00:04 Wuzzy redstone has so many gotchas 00:04 Asad3ainJalout Wuzzy: when was the last time you played feed the beast minecraft? 00:04 Wuzzy never haha 00:04 Asad3ainJalout you will see what i mean by minetest lacking on the technical side if you have ever played feed the beast ulimate pack 00:04 Asad3ainJalout also the magical side 00:05 Wuzzy i asked you what is a "technical mod", not if MT is lacking in features 00:05 Lone-Star one think i do like about mesecons, is the compactness of it. i have built some really complex systems that would have been 30 blocks in MC, but a third of that in MT 00:05 Lone-Star 8thing 00:05 Lone-Star *thing 00:05 Wuzzy Exactly that 00:06 Wuzzy the redstone rules are outright weird 00:06 Lone-Star right 00:06 Wuzzy not even vertical redstone. whyyyyyyy 00:06 Wuzzy how can you minecrafters even live without vertical redstone xD 00:07 Asad3ainJalout Wuzzy: hmm buildcraft, tinkerers construct, the applied energistics, industrial craft (i am skipping tekkit cause minetest has techit) 00:07 Lone-Star when i saw that mese could run vert, i almost jizzed myself, lol 00:07 Asad3ainJalout there are others these are the ones i remember 00:10 Wuzzy Asad3ainJalout: well you could always try to convince some MC modders to go to MT. :D many Minecrafters were pissed because of the MS sellout 00:10 Asad3ainJalout most just stopped playing 00:10 Asad3ainJalout I am close friends with the guy who made the secret rooms mod on minecraft 00:11 Asad3ainJalout i asked him to make his mod here, unfortunately, he does not enjoy programming in any language but java 00:11 Asad3ainJalout nor does he have time to program for fun 00:12 Wuzzy he did have time for MC mods, so ... 00:12 Wuzzy if he knows java well then lua will be a piece of cake 00:13 Wuzzy refusing to learn lua when you already know java well seems like total brain damage to me 00:14 Wuzzy lua is is probably easiest language ever. definitely not the best. but it does the job 00:14 Asad3ainJalout he had time to make minecraft mods when he was in college :D hes working full time while going for his masters Wuzzy :D 00:15 Asad3ainJalout he knows lua, and many other languages, he just does not have fun with them 00:15 Wuzzy argh. always this stupid "real life" coming in the way. xD 00:15 Lone-Star real life sux 00:16 Asad3ainJalout lol 00:16 Asad3ainJalout hey without real life, we would not have minetest 00:16 Lone-Star but it pays the bills 00:16 Wuzzy real life is an illusion. the matrix is real. black is white. sun is moon. 1=0. P=NP. 00:16 Asad3ainJalout hey, i cannot download this zip file https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=14497 00:16 Asad3ainJalout can any of you give it a shot? 00:17 Wuzzy try again 00:17 Wuzzy https://forum.minetest.net/download/file.php?id=7985 00:17 Lone-Star im trying to learn lua, but im to old now, i cant remember what i did yesterday 00:17 Wuzzy arent people never too old to learn? 00:18 Asad3ainJalout "could not be saved, because the source file could not be read. 00:18 Asad3ainJalout Try again later, or contact the server administrator. 00:18 Asad3ainJalout thats what i keep getting 00:18 Lone-Star never to old to learn, its the remembering what you learned is the problem 00:19 Lone-Star i did manage to write a small mod though, the non jumpable fences mod :D 00:19 Wuzzy try again: https://www.load.to/nrMqC5eZRi/ByUjEdwinV2_space.zip 00:20 Wuzzy Lone-Star: are your fences *REALLY* non-jumpable? 00:20 Wuzzy did you test with sneakjumping? 00:20 Lone-Star yup 00:20 Wuzzy did you test with sneakjumping? 00:20 Wuzzy if yes then i am very excited 00:20 Lone-Star fences have a collision box of 1.5 00:21 Wuzzy ok then the answer is no :( 00:21 Wuzzy this is exactly how fences in MineClone 2 and Minecraft work 00:21 Lone-Star let me see right quick 00:21 Wuzzy its a bug in MT, i guess 00:21 Wuzzy you cant do much about it 00:22 Wuzzy unless fixing MT xD 00:24 Lone-Star yeah, i can sneak jump over 1 fence, but not 2 00:24 Lone-Star but for keeping animal mobs in, it works for what i wanted it to do 00:25 Asad3ainJalout Wuzzy: still cannot download it, am downloading the other_worlds mod instead, also, what good mobs mods are there, non-violent ones mind you 00:26 Wuzzy non-violent mods? 00:26 Wuzzy you should be more specific 00:26 Lone-Star kgpmobs 00:26 Asad3ainJalout non-violent mobs 00:26 Wuzzy oh 00:26 Lone-Star mobs_animals 00:27 Asad3ainJalout my kid are young, don't need them freaking out too much 00:27 Lone-Star those two i just listed is only animals 00:27 Asad3ainJalout nice 00:27 Asad3ainJalout Thank you Lone-Star 00:30 Lone-Star just check them out in the forums, cant remember what other mod dependencies they have, i know one needs mobs_redo 00:31 Asad3ainJalout https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=629 this one, and this one https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=9917 are what I am looking at 00:31 bigfoot547 !rainbow !title 00:31 MinetestBot 4!t7it8le 00:31 bigfoot547 Aww, MinetestBot doesn't respond to itself... 00:34 Lone-Star Asad3ainJalout: think that thread is a bit out of date. https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=9917 has everything you need 00:38 Asad3ainJalout Lone-Star: thank you 00:43 Lone-Star np 01:01 swift110 hey all 01:02 Genshin o/ 01:06 Asad3ainJalout howdy 01:35 Asad3ainJalout is there a log file to see why my server crashes? 01:39 Lone-Star debug.txt 02:02 Asad3ainJalout my micky mouse server appears to be crashing whenever it has to load anything major 02:02 Asad3ainJalout example, if i run a teleport command it crashes 02:03 Asad3ainJalout is it possible to preload my world so that my micky mouse server can keep up 03:36 jas_ https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=292043#p292043 i just woke up too 03:54 jas_ oh cool got a bunch of deprecation notices (minetest.setting_*) when loading with debug version, that's helpful. 04:01 jas_ bah! now i have to figure out how i crashed and i guess i should have run it with gdb (client i mean, which just crashed) 04:03 jas_ !server dcbl 04:03 MinetestBot jas_: dcbl | dcbl.duckdns.org | Clients: 1/20, 0/2 | Version: 0.5.0-dev-debug / dcbl | Ping: 118ms 04:16 * jas_ wonders what to type once it's crashed within gdb 04:19 * jas_ bumbles around in gdb: https://gist.github.com/jastevenson303/28c0adbb222cb2bb8f2458df8188d85a 06:41 rdococ hi 06:46 jas_ hi 06:49 jas_ if anyone wants to watch me jump at the edge of nodes 06:49 jas_ (without, hopefully, crashing) https://twitch.tv/jastvn 06:50 rdococ heh 07:03 rdococ listen, kids, do not do what I am doing: do not compile minetest while watching twitch on a slow computer 07:04 jas_ noope 07:10 redblade7 would streaming a video make that much of a difference? 07:10 redblade7 it's the compiling that's slow 07:11 redblade7 that's why i use i7 cpus 07:11 redblade7 although i dont compile much anymore on my home desktop since i switched it from slackware to xubuntu 07:13 rdococ slackware? isn't windows a form of that? 07:13 rdococ :P 07:13 frostsnow Set high nice value of compiling process 07:15 rdococ nice 07:27 redblade7 the vps i host my minetest servers on is slackware 07:27 redblade7 and i have an old dying computer in my house that runs boinc 07:27 redblade7 also slackware 07:29 redblade7 but slackware is annoying to get video playback to work with, making it not a good choice for desktops 07:29 redblade7 and on laptops, it's good to have quick updates via a package management system, not waste time and battery compiling software 08:11 rdococ hi jas_ 12:28 DS-minetest is it impossible to clear craftings with one item in recipe? 12:43 MinetestBot 02[git] 04Wuzzy2 -> 03Uberi/Minetest-WorldEdit: Allow to bulk-set param2 of regions (#144) 133c61759 https://git.io/v5zp9 (152017-09-05T12:40:46Z) 16:07 jas_ !server dcbl 16:07 MinetestBot jas_: dcbl | dcbl.duckdns.org | Clients: 1/20, 0/1 | Version: 0.5.0-dev-debug / dcbl | Ping: 122ms 16:07 jas_ clients time out when trying to connect if i stream to twitch ^_^ 16:11 swift110 hey all 16:12 CalebDavis hi swift 16:30 swift110 hey CalebDavis how are you 17:43 erstazi Trying to build factories with pipeworks and technic. What is the most effective way to check if a chest is full? Currently continuing the pipes after the chests help however I am wondering if there is a more efficient and effective way to do so 17:52 Krock that's the most simple and reliable way I can think of. Even if you could detect the items, you wouldn't know how many there are and whether they fit into the chests 17:54 jas_ jumping feels good with #6380 17:55 erstazi Krock: thanks. I was trying Caches however it is hard to delete them! 18:02 MinetestBot 02[git] 04Rui-Minetest -> 03minetest/minetest: Remove DSTACK keybind setting (#6378) 1387c5a3f https://git.io/v5gMW (152017-09-05T18:00:36Z) 18:20 jas_ now playing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPlhcpSZ8YI 18:21 Krock not playing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gc2u6AFImn8 18:22 jas_ good one 18:22 jas_ https://i.imgur.com/PceOH5D.png 18:24 sofar https://imgur.com/a/JtTw8 surprise on my car this morning 18:24 Krock don't use that client 18:24 Krock ^ jas_ 18:24 jas_ why not? lol 18:25 Krock destroys the fun 18:25 jas_ i got weechat in a terminal, but this relay client makes it very easy to look at a glance 18:25 jas_ so if there's no problem with it, i'll use it. i tried once to run it locally, but holy moly nodejs something something didn't work 18:25 Krock sofar, impressive that it spread so far away 18:26 sofar fire grew by several thousands of acres overnight 18:26 habeangur jas_: irssi is a good IRC cleint too 18:26 jas_ thanks habeangur, but i've always used weechat 18:26 habeangur client* 18:26 jas_ glowing bear is a weechat relay client 18:27 rdococ radioactive bear 18:31 habeangur :D 18:34 rdococ lol 19:59 MinetestBot 02[git] 04Wuzzy2 -> 03minetest/minetest: Make HUD status messages translatable (#5795) 13f231112 https://git.io/v5ghb (152017-09-05T19:57:29Z) 20:17 MinetestBot 02[git] 04nerzhul -> 03minetest/minetest: Use a Buffer instead of SharedBuffer in ConnectionCommand 13a3c298e https://git.io/v52vg (152017-09-05T20:14:56Z) 21:09 sc3k is there any way i can access, compile, and test minetest 0.5? because the master branch on github is at 0.4.17 21:10 jas_ it should read 0.5.0-dev 21:10 jas_ does for me anyway 21:11 sc3k i just compilied the master branch and it said 0.4.17... 21:11 jas_ but if you git pull git://github.com/minetest/minetest.git, you'll have 0.5.0 21:11 sc3k maybe i git cloned wrong 21:11 jas_ i dunno why. maybe a setting, or maybe need to rm CMakeCache.txt or make clean or something 21:11 sc3k there we go. i just cloned the wrong branch 21:11 jas_ or that ^5 21:11 sc3k that was why it said 0.4.17 21:29 red-001 0.4.17-dev is the stable branch 21:47 Fixer_ master is 0.5.0-dev 21:56 habeangur when it will come out? 22:03 jas_ December at the earliest, I hear. 22:16 red-001 when it's finished 22:17 red-001 usually releases are every 6 months + 0 to 3 months delay 22:18 red-001 0.5 could take longer since all of the network protocol breaking changes are suppose to be in it