Time  Nick        Message
00:22 rdococ      yay
00:27 bigfoot547  yay
00:53 Errante     Ive made it, but requests arent being successful every time
00:58 Errante     https://pastebin.com/Sj5924TF
01:07 Errante     local httpResponse = http.fetch_async_get(http.fetch_async())
01:08 Errante     is that wrong?
01:08 bigfoot547  Dunno
01:08 bigfoot547  never yused it
01:15 Errante     cool
01:18 Errante     brb
01:19 bigfoot547  mkay
01:26 Errante     so, should I rewrite using callbacks?
02:23 Errante     80%
02:38 AntumDeluge Is it possible to queue a function for after all server mods are loaded?
02:39 Lone-Star   Sokomine: you around?
02:40 Errante     AntumDeluge: http://dev.minetest.net/depends
02:43 AntumDeluge Errante, yes, but I don't want to add every installed mod to my 'depends.txt'.
02:44 Errante     maybe through ~/.minetest/worlds/<world_name>/world.mt
02:45 Errante     sont think so
02:45 AntumDeluge I need to be able to do it in my Lua script.
02:45 Errante     I dont know, wait for someone else to answer
02:45 Errante     sorry
02:45 AntumDeluge :)
03:11 wilkgr      AntumDeluge, if I may ask, what do you need it for?
03:13 AntumDeluge I have a mod that overrides items using a file located in world path. Server owners can list items in this file. However, items will not be overridden if the mod that creates them is not loaded before my overriding mod.
03:14 AntumDeluge So, rather than causing server owners to modify my 'depends.txt' file, it would be easier to run a function after all other mods have been loaded.
03:16 AntumDeluge I suppose I could use 'core.register_on_joinplayer', but I'd rather not depend on a player joining the game to run the overriding function.
03:22 wilkgr      ah, I see. That makes sense
03:23 wilkgr      You could make a script to automatically populate the depends.txt file using the file w/ the list of items, since you can split by newline and by colon.
03:23 wilkgr      Alternatively, you could check if the item is in the registered items array
03:24 wilkgr      and then run the function for the ones that are in the array.
03:24 wilkgr      AntumDeluge ^
03:24 Errante     how should I access parent mods functions?
03:25 AntumDeluge I don't think the first option would be completely accurate as item names don't always reflect the mod that created them.
03:25 wilkgr      but the strings are in the format modname:itemname
03:25 wilkgr      the itemstrings
03:26 AntumDeluge Yes, but "modname:itemname" can be overridden with a prefixed colon: ":altname:itemname"
03:26 wilkgr      Indeed, but that is for redefining items that were already created
03:27 AntumDeluge No, that works for creating new items as well.
03:27 wilkgr      huh.
03:27 wilkgr      Ok then
03:28 AntumDeluge I don't think populating the 'depends.txt' file after the mod is loaded will help anyway. That file is checked only before the mod is initialized.
03:28 AntumDeluge And checking the registered items array leaves me with the same problem. Server owners will still need to add dependencies manually.
03:29 AntumDeluge Otherwise items registered after the override mod is initialized will not get overridden.
03:29 Errante     Ive made a RPC mod which implement RPC using minetest's own methods. now I want to use its functions within another mod
03:30 AntumDeluge Errante, if I understand your question, as long as the parent mods have made those functions global they can be accessed just by calling them.
03:31 AntumDeluge As long as the parent mod has already been initialized. Make sure to add it to the 'depends.txt' file of the child mod.
03:34 wilkgr      AntumDeluge, I meant continually checking the registered items array until you have overridden all items on your list
03:36 AntumDeluge That could work. Or maybe just by using globalstep?
03:44 Errante     AntumDeluge: thx
04:03 Sokomine    Lone-Star: how can i help you?
04:04 Sokomine    Lone-Star: it's best to state your question and not ask if i'm there. that way i can answer when i see it :-)
04:37 habeangur   any alternative for minetesthosting.com?
04:42 wilkgr      habeangur, if you host w/ a VPS, yes, but that is more complicated.
04:42 wilkgr      Do note that no one knows who actually hosts minetesthosting.
04:45 habeangur   wilkgr: someone named Mark on forum said I do
04:46 wilkgr      Hm. Interesting.
04:58 habeangur   wilkgr: by "do" I meant hosting minetesthosting
05:09 wrcwpk[m]   I have a mod that emulates the minecraft grasspath block, everything works, but when you right click with the rake it tries to place a rake block and then fails and sets the block to grasspath here is a video of what I mean: https://my.mixtape.moe/mssykm.webm and the relevant code: https://paste.ubuntu.com/25430162/
05:20 jas_        i'm trying to add item wear to a node.  this node is a meshnode and looks fine while wielded, but won't show a wear bar.  if i make the thing a tool, it may show a wear bar, but, it appears one cannot use meshnodes for tools?  i haven't quite fiddled enough, but wanted to ask.
05:21 jas_        wrcwpk[m]: is grasspaths:grasspath defines? or is that the unknown node i keep seeing pop up?
05:21 jas_        you got item wear on that there node?!
05:23 jas_        wrcwpk[m]: there's no on_rightclick, you're using on_use which is a left click
05:24 jas_        there is, however, on_rightclick(pos, node, clicker, itemstack, pointed_thing)
05:25 wrcwpk[m]   Yeah grasspath is defined at the top of the file. Do I need to register rake as a tool? If so is there an equivalent on_place method?
05:25 jas_        also, you don't have any item wear showing up for that rake in that video.  but i see you have add_wear().  i haven't ever used item wear, so am unfamiliar.  but that rake is a node, as in register_node
05:25 jas_        perhaps u meant register_tool?
05:26 jas_        i dunno, might be worth a try.  still trying to wrap my head around tools, nodes, craftitems
05:26 jas_        afaik those are the three item types
05:27 wrcwpk[m]   Oh wow yeah can't believe I missed that sure enough I meant register_tool thanks for the catch
05:28 jas_        your welcome, i see your mod is shaping up ; D
05:28 jas_        you're*
05:29 jas_        it's a lot of fun, hope you enjoy it.  make sure you keep lua_api.txt open at all times heheh
05:30 wrcwpk[m]   yeah I need to, quite liking lua this is my first time using
05:46 jas_        i'm looking forward to leanring new features, like client side modding, and player attributes and colors oh my
05:50 wrcwpk[m]   Yeah client modding would be cool. How new are you? What mods have you done thus far?
05:51 jas_        i wonder if a server can sent a client-side mod to a connecting client for them to automatically use, or if they have to procure it on their own.  i dunno anything about csm yet heh, i should open client_lua_api.md...
05:52 jas_        "Transfering client-sided mods form the server to the client is planned, but not implemented yet." oh, :'( heheh
05:52 jas_        i've been on hiatus for a few months, but i been around for a couple years off and on
05:54 jas_        i made uhhh.... i made some small mods
05:55 jas_        i prefer to work on sub-games, tho, i think
05:56 jas_        https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=18163
06:01 jas_        anthem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyCkhPTU13w
06:01 jas_        so hard to alt-tab in gnome, heh
06:03 wrcwpk[m]   I highly reccomend using a tiling WM they're a bit tricky to get used to but after you do everything else is unusabely slow
06:03 jas_        i like xmonad
06:04 jas_        i like openbox, and xfce.  this laptop is gnome.  all debian 9
06:04 jas_        those tiling window managers really are amazing
06:07 jas_        i just wish more window managers did both.  i tried e17, which had a tiling mode, but it was not pleasant imo.
06:07 jas_        i know the tiling ones do both, generally
06:07 wrcwpk[m]   XFCE is my preferred Floating WM by far. Debian is best OS too
06:07 jas_        i dunno, guess it doesn't matter.  window managers are awesome in general.  i think my favorite, my guilty pleasure, is windowmaker
06:09 jas_        my first was e16
06:09 jas_        on a first gen blueberry ibook
06:09 jas_        i was absolutely blown away when the desktop slid to the side to reveal the next workspace
06:11 MinetestBot 02[git] 04nerzhul -> 03minetest/minetest: Remove DSTACK support (#6346) 13bd6b903 https://git.io/v5chJ (152017-08-30T06:09:41Z)
06:24 * jas_      wonders what DSTACK even is
06:24 jas_        oh debug stacks, that would explain why i never used it
06:25 jas_        that reminds me i have to learn how to mod profile, and maybe figure out this debug build business for minetest
06:34 jas_        !server dcbl
06:34 MinetestBot jas_: dcbl | dcbl.duckdns.org | Clients: 0/20, 0/0 | Version: 0.5.0-dev / dcbl | Ping: 119ms
06:34 jas_        oh i just joined, i should waited a minute. : )
14:03 IhrFussel   AntumDeluge, minetest.after() is GUARANTEED to only run X secs after all mods loaded
14:26 CalebDavis  hi Brackston
14:26 Brackston   Hi CalebDavis
15:00 ivanhercaz  Hi everyone!
15:00 ivanhercaz  I am new with Minetest
15:01 ivanhercaz  And I am trying to install the Areas mod
15:02 ivanhercaz  But when I activate the mod in a test worl, I can not init because it fails.
15:03 ivanhercaz  Failed to load and run script from...
15:58 IhrFussel   ivanhercaz, use pastebin.com and paste the full error message there
15:59 ivanhercaz  Hi IhrFussel :) Okay, give me a second
15:59 IhrFussel   You can find it in the debug.txt
16:01 ivanhercaz  stupid question, where is the debug.txt?
16:01 juhdanad    Where the minetest executable is.
16:01 ivanhercaz  Thank you juhdanad :)
16:02 juhdanad    !next
16:02 MinetestBot Another satisfied customer. Next!
16:02 IhrFussel   Nah not quite...his actual problem is a mod error
16:02 juhdanad    Oh, sorry, I just joined.
16:04 IhrFussel   ivanhercaz, you only need the last few lines of the debug.txt not the full file
16:04 ivanhercaz  IhrFussel, https://pastebin.com/GXUjQQis
16:04 ivanhercaz  Yes IhrFussel, I copy the exact lines
16:05 IhrFussel   ivanhercaz, what's your MT version?
16:14 ivanhercaz  Excuse me IhrFussel, I was awake of the keyboard some minutes
16:14 ivanhercaz  0.4.15
16:15 IhrFussel   ivanhercaz, where did you download the mod? Can you show me the exact line? (areas/setting.lua line 11)
16:15 IhrFussel   settings*
16:24 ivanhercaz_ I download the mod from the Github of ShadowNinja https://github.com/ShadowNinja/areas
16:24 ivanhercaz_ I don't know why I have been disconnected and connected with my alternative nickname... Strange.
16:25 ivanhercaz_ Give me a second IhrFussel and I share here the line
16:25 ivanhercaz_ 10: elseif tp == "string" then
16:26 ivanhercaz_ 11: value = minetest.settings:get(full_name)
16:26 IhrFussel   ivanhercaz_, I think I already know what the problem is...you need 0.4.16 for this version of the mod
16:26 IhrFussel   0.4.16 introduced a new way to get game settings which is "minetest.settings:get()"
16:32 IhrFussel   ivanhercaz_, are you on Windows or Linux?
16:34 ivanhercaz_ I am in Linux (Debian 9)
16:34 IhrFussel   Do you know how to use PPA?
16:35 ivanhercaz_ More or less because I do not usually use it.
16:35 Krock       s/in/on/
16:35 ivanhercaz_ But what you recommend me is to make the upgrade of Minetest via ppa, no?
16:36 Krock       best is always self-compiled binaries
16:36 Krock       but easiest is to get the (daily) PPA
16:37 IhrFussel   If you know how to compile then compile 0.4.16 stable ... if you don't know how to compile then install "software-properties-common" then run "sudo apt-add-repository ppa:minetestdevs/stable"
16:37 IhrFussel   Krock, you shouldn't recommend people to use the daily version in this breakage era
16:38 ivanhercaz_ well, another solutions is wait to the upgrade of the package in Debian, I have check that is unstable (for Debian 9) yet https://piuparts.debian.org/stretch/source/m/minetest.html https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/minetest
16:38 ivanhercaz_ Yes, I know how to compile IhrFussel
16:38 Krock       IhrFussel, indeed, that's why I added the parentheses
16:39 IhrFussel   Well then get 0.4.16 stable on your machine...in any way because many mods don't support 0.4.15 anymore
16:41 ivanhercaz_ Well, another way is to wait for the upgrade of the Debian package. I can enjoy the game without this mods, because I am beginning to play hehe!
16:41 ivanhercaz_ Bit by bit
16:42 ivanhercaz_ I am testing everything first and I do not play in servers with many users, I only play with my couple
16:44 IhrFussel   ivanhercaz_, alright then, the areas mod really only makes sense in multiplayer on servers cause it prevents griefing
16:47 ivanhercaz_ I will be watching the update :P
16:47 ivanhercaz_ Thank you IhrFussel and Krock :)
16:47 ivanhercaz_ Nice to meet you.
16:47 Krock       !next
16:47 MinetestBot Another satisfied customer. Next!
16:57 juhdanad    !seen kilbith
16:57 MinetestBot juhdanad: kilbith was last seen at 2017-08-13 00:09:55 UTC on #minetest-fr
17:13 AntumDeluge Thank you IhrFussel, that is exactly what I need.
18:10 red-001     ~seen kilbith
18:10 ShadowBot   red-001: I saw kilbith in #minetest 12 weeks, 0 days, 23 hours, 8 minutes, and 24 seconds ago saying "I'm looking to hire a PHP developer, if you're interested, please /msg me"
18:11 red-001     ~seen #minetest-dev kilbith
18:11 ShadowBot   red-001: I saw kilbith in #minetest-dev 6 weeks, 3 days, 3 hours, 57 minutes, and 8 seconds ago saying "I'm gonna decline and thus stop contributing as of now"
18:11 rubenwardy  he's been reacting on Github, so he's still around
18:11 red-001     ah that's why everyone is checking
18:11 Krock       everyone's checking? must do too.
18:11 red-001     whats the context of that quote?
18:11 Krock       !seen #minetest kilbith
18:11 MinetestBot Krock: Sorry, I haven't seen #minetest around.
18:13 Krock       red-001, kind of "monkey see, monkey imitate"
18:14 red-001     well it's not surprising that MT-bot didn't see anyone called #minetest
18:14 red-001     pretty sure channel names are invalid nicks
18:14 Krock       yes.
18:16 red-001     ~seen #minetest-hub kilbith
18:16 ShadowBot   red-001: I saw kilbith in #minetest-hub 13 weeks, 2 days, 22 hours, 6 minutes, and 36 seconds ago saying "Fixer, I hope he won't live that old"
18:17 red-001     and yes I know I could query the bot
18:20 Beginer     Hello folks, could you help me? I want to install mt on Debian 8 (dedicated server) using apt-get. What i get is mt 0.4.10 which is old :( i want at least 0.4.15
18:20 rubenwardy  there's a ppa
18:21 rubenwardy  one sec
18:21 rubenwardy  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:minetestdevs/stable && sudo apt-get update
18:21 red-001     or follow the wiki page on building from source
18:21 red-001     that might be a bad idea right now through
18:21 Beginer     -bash: add-apt-repository: command not found
18:21 rubenwardy  damn
18:22 red-001     current master is breaking backwards compatibility
18:22 rubenwardy  Does apt/apt-get exist?
18:22 rubenwardy  you may need to install a package if so
18:22 Beginer     "apt-get" yes, "apt" not sure
18:22 rubenwardy  sudo apt-get install software-properties-common
18:23 rubenwardy  (found here https://tecadmin.net/add-apt-repository-command-not-found-debain-ubuntu/ )
18:24 Beginer     ok, thanks, now add-apt-repository works, hm  but what now
18:24 rubenwardy  sudo apt install minetest
18:24 rubenwardy  or apt upgrade
18:25 Beginer     ohh Setting up minetest (0.4.10+repack-1)  <-- 0.4.10 again :(
18:26 rubenwardy  huh
18:26 rubenwardy  did apt update work successfully?
18:28 Beginer     yes, still 0.4.10
18:28 Beginer     or not? 2 packages were not found
18:30 rubenwardy  weird
18:36 Beginer     heh, i bet these 2 packages were important, rubenwardy thanks anyway
18:43 MinetestBot 02[git] 04Rui-Minetest -> 03minetest/minetest: Remove nodeupdate and nodeupdate_single 13b8f06ad https://git.io/v5WET (152017-08-30T18:39:10Z)
18:43 MinetestBot 02[git] 04paramat -> 03minetest/minetest: Zoom: Move enabling zoom to a new player object property 13561a01c https://git.io/v5WEk (152017-08-30T18:39:05Z)
19:03 Beginer     rubenwardy, *.AppImage (0.4.16) works fine ( /viewtopic.php?f=42&t=15802 ), i will use that ppa thing for 0.5, thank you
22:08 CrimsonFall Hello?
22:09 rubenwardy  just ask, no need to check if there's anyone here, CrimsonFall
22:10 rubenwardy  oh, and hi
22:19 CrimsonFall is there a mod from Red Cat I can talk to
22:25 swift110    sup folks
22:26 red-NaN     hi swift110
22:29 swift110    how are you red
22:30 NullRed     I'm good
23:12 swift110    back
23:13 swift110    good NullRed what are you up to
23:34 rdococ      yae
23:34 * rdococ    hugs swift110