Time  Nick         Message
04:01 jay_         hello
04:02 jay_         anyone know a good document to help me start coding my own mods?
06:13 wrcwpk       Hey guys question, I'm using itemstack:get_name() and the api says it should return something like "default:dirt" but instead I am getting "table: 0x<hexcode>" can't figure out how come. any tips?
06:21 jas_         Invref then itemstck then getname
06:22 wrcwpk[m]    Sorry could you elaboorate on that, i'm quite new to minetest dev
06:27 wrcwpk[m]    This is being used in a tools on_place(...) method so I don't have an inventory to reference
06:45 Lukc         The player’s, probably.
06:46 jas_         Show code? On_place(itemstack) ?
06:50 jas_         on_place(itemstack, placer, pointed_thing)
06:50 wrcwpk[m]    http://paste.ubuntu.com/25406034/
06:50 jas_         K
06:51 jas_         Is it the curly brackets?
06:52 wrcwpk[m]    Uhh yeah this is embarassing. I added those cause I was getting a syntax earlier without them but now it works so I'm guessing I had something else wrong. Thanks for that
06:53 jas_         Welcome have fun
07:31 spoky99      someone know how mining tantalium?
07:40 hisforever   HI is there a better mod For Flowers?
07:46 wrcwpk[m]    There are several, what kind of flowers do you want are you looking for growable flowers or what
07:47 hisforever   I'd like to have a group of flowers not just 1
07:48 hisforever   ty wecwpk{m}
07:49 hisforever   This is where mintest is lacking, but its still an awesone game :)
09:52 spoky99      someone know how mining tantalium?
10:12 habeangur    spoky99: wot?
10:12 habeangur    spoky99: if that's radio active, don't, you'll die :P
13:15 MinetestBot  02[git] 04lupoDharkael -> 03minetest/minetest: More readable default controls in README 13de331b1 https://git.io/v53Qc (152017-08-27T13:12:52Z)
13:25 YuGiOhJCJ    hello, on SONOF Raspberry Pi server, with Minetest 0.4.16 and Irrlicht 1.8.1, my client often crashes after playing some minutes: https://pastebin.com/QzujXh7Q do you know why?
14:20 Fixer        YuGiOhJCJ: can you post this on github?
14:49 YuGiOhJCJ    Fixer, yes later
16:40 MinetestBot  02[git] 04zeuner -> 03minetest/minetest: Lua API: Add function to deregister single biomes (#5445) 131f207a3 https://git.io/v53ht (152017-08-27T16:39:47Z)
16:40 MinetestBot  02[git] 04HybridDog -> 03minetest/minetest: core.get_objects_inside_radius: Omit removed objects (#6318) 13e09c7fc https://git.io/v53hq (152017-08-27T16:38:50Z)
16:42 spoky99      someone know how mining titanium?
16:43 Krock        what kind of titanium? this one? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3113
16:44 Krock        use F5 to show the debug information. it should tell you the node name and with it, the mod which adds it
16:48 spoky99      with f5 i know the tipe of titanium or in the debug I could see how to mine it?
16:51 Krock        you can see the internal node name, which leads to the mod that adds it to the game. Once the mod is known, I can look up the source to tell you how to mine it
16:52 spoky99      thanks!
16:55 Krock        so.. is there any name you could get from the debug information?
17:04 pranav       excuse me. can u tell me who is oldcoder and why do we an=void him??
17:04 pranav       avoid
17:04 habeangur    who avoids oldcoder?
17:05 pranav       well why do ppl telll me to stay away frm him??
17:05 Krock        pranav, 1 minute
17:05 juhdanad     pranav: i suggest you should read some posts from minetest.org if you would like to understand who is OldCoder.
17:06 pranav       i read them..so what
17:06 pranav       he is some guy who hates minetest \\
17:06 pranav       i guess i read a bit of it only
17:06 habeangur    wot?!?!?!
17:06 habeangur    hates minetest?!?!?
17:06 habeangur    O.o
17:06 rubenwardy   He's abusive and agressively hostile
17:07 MinetestBot  02[git] 04Ekdohibs -> 03minetest/minetest: Statbars: fix incorrect half-images in non-standard orientations (fix… 13520b481 https://git.io/v53j4 (152017-08-27T17:06:40Z)
17:07 pranav       i said i read a bit of it only
17:07 pranav       tell me why u think that
17:07 rubenwardy   I think that partially due to the 286 emails I've received
17:07 rdococ       should I compile 0.4.17 until 0.5.0 gets a bit more stable?
17:07 sfan5        rubenwardy: 🤔
17:07 rdococ       if 0.4.17 is out yet, that is
17:07 rubenwardy   and also due to the 10s of private messages on IRC
17:07 sfan5        rdococ: just stay at the stable release (0.4.16)
17:08 pranav       what has he done which makes u think that
17:08 Krock        rubenwardy, 286? 60 within 8 days just recently. they're active writers
17:08 pranav       oldcoder
17:08 Krock        about the amount of emails I'd usually get in two years
17:08 pranav       im jst curious
17:08 habeangur    rdococ, you said .4.17 is out?
17:08 rdococ       idk, is it?
17:09 rdococ       I said "if it is out"
17:09 pranav       cmon wud no one tell me what oldcod3r did which makes u think that
17:09 habeangur    rdococ: I thought after 0.4.16 a new release won't come for a relatively long time(months)
17:09 Krock        0.4.17 will, if ever, get out about to the same time as 0.5.0
17:10 rdococ       habeangur: do you know what the wors "if" means?
17:10 habeangur    rdococ: ok
17:10 pranav       my server admin literally told me off when i tried to ask him whjo is oldcoder
17:10 rdococ       s/wors/word/
17:10 pranav       pls cmon tell me about him someone
17:10 rdococ       pranav: that's literally bonkers
17:10 pranav       oldcoder
17:10 pranav       what
17:10 pranav       is bonkers
17:10 rdococ       people shouting at you for asking who oldcoder is
17:10 pranav       ok bt why is he so unpopular
17:11 pranav       cmon tell me
17:11 rdococ       nah, my memory's too foggy
17:12 pranav       mann!!!
17:13 habeangur    why minetest pupil are everywhere(in freenode)?
17:13 sfan5        wut
17:13 rdococ       wut
17:13 rdococ       question what malformed word(inchra out)?
17:14 habeangur    or maybe I join where they join because we have the same interests?
17:14 habeangur    or maybe Minetest is too much popular!
17:15 rdococ       ...can you rephrase your question in English?
17:15 habeangur    rdococ: ...
17:15 rdococ       seriously, I have no idea what you just said. are you talking about minors playing MT?
17:16 habeangur    minetest people = those one who play minetest
17:16 Krock        Minetest is not popular enough and thus, the "Minetest people" are not everywhere
17:16 habeangur    but freenode is full of students, programmers, unixians, etc
17:16 rdococ       dude, you said minetest pupil
17:17 habeangur    so those players are usually a little more than just "plain players"
17:17 habeangur    did I insult anyone/any team/anything?
17:17 rdococ       The freenode IRC network is an IRC network, of course it's going to be full of people like that. The general public don't even know what IRC is.
17:17 habeangur    rdococ: yes...
17:18 habeangur    ok, I think I had to use the word "minetester" because minetest people mean those who are in develpers team
17:18 rubenwardy   I'm not really sure what you mean, habeangur
17:19 habeangur    rubenwardy: minetesters are everywhere!
17:19 Natechip     well I mean. theres lots of people involved with minetest at one time who hang in these channels. I can normally recongnize someone
17:19 habeangur    Natechip: you here too?
17:19 habeangur    oh yes you were admin of a server
17:19 Krock        no. he's actually not here
17:19 Krock        it's your imagination, trying to tell you some lies
17:19 Natechip     but its not like they are in all the channels. not at all. theres thousands of channels on freenode...
17:20 Natechip     habeangur: ya im main owner of MM-Survival and HCBSurvival
17:20 Natechip     probably see me in lots of channels XD
17:20 habeangur    by anywhere I meant most channels which I'm there
17:21 rubenwardy   I stumbled across Natechip just the other day!
17:22 Natechip     rubenwardy: tru dat :D
17:22 Natechip     XD
17:23 rdococ       habeangur: you should clarify. both "minetester" and "minetest people" could refer to both devs and players.
17:23 Natechip     habeangur: maybe u see ppl from here in your channels cuz u might find the channels by hearing from others around you. thus these minetest fellows
17:23 rubenwardy   subliminal suggestions
17:24 rdococ       I'd use the terms "developer" (for people working on the core), "modder" (for people using the Lua API, like me), and "player" (for people who just play).
17:24 * rubenwardy isn't on very many: #live #lua #nginx @#minetest-hub +#minetest-dev #minetest #android-dev #8dromeda
17:24 rdococ       although a dev could also play, a modder might start devving (even if it's in a fork of MT), etc.
17:24 rdococ       rubenwardy: I am on literally a billion channels
17:24 rubenwardy   > literally
17:24 rdococ       and that's barely figurative
17:24 sfan5        ｆｉｇｕｒａｔｉｖｅｌｙ
17:25 rdococ       sfan5: it's more literal than you'd think
17:25 rdococ       also, figuratively doesn't emphasize the point
17:25 rdococ       literally does
17:25 sfan5        millenials are ruining english
17:26 rdococ       sorry for being born in the wrong century then
17:26 rdococ       >-<
17:26 rubenwardy   not all of us, sfan5
17:26 habeangur    rdococ: by minetesters I meant players but because it's freenode, they are at least a little more than players
17:26 rdococ       people need to realize that you don't get a GUI that allows you to press a button and you get born in that year
17:26 rdococ       it's ridiculous. and dare I say, literally ridiculous.
17:26 rdococ       English is not being ruined, it is evolving.
17:27 habeangur    rdococ: Admins of servers are in which group?
17:27 rdococ       habeangur: dude, you just referred to them with an unambiguous term, why do you need to classify it further
17:28 rdococ       sfan5: from now on, I will be like, "I'm going to change my grammar on purpose to annoy sfan5 until s/he literally blows up." :P
17:29 sfan5        🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
17:30 habeangur    Oh and I forgot something, freenode is for software, people usually join for example ##linux, #minetest, #ubuntu, #i3, #vim, etc
17:30 rdococ       sfan5: nice unicode dude
17:30 rdococ       even though it doesn't show up on this font.
17:30 Lone-Star    rdococ: yes, the english language is degrading. if it continues it's current path, it will consist of only grunts and clicks like in primitive days
17:30 habeangur    rdococ: I just saw question marks...
17:31 rubenwardy   🤷🤷🤷
17:31 habeangur    ????
17:32 rdococ       Lone-Star: you have it wrong, english will degrade into a series of emojis
17:32 rubenwardy   👆
17:32 habeangur    when someone talks with you in QML, you should talk with him in the same language
17:32 Lone-Star    same difference
17:32 rdococ       also, just because grunts and clicks sound foreign doesn't automatically make them primitive
17:35 rdococ       <body><pronoun person=1 type="subject" /><verb name="speak" tense="present" /><preposition name="in" /><noun name="XML" /></body>
17:36 rubenwardy   pronoun[person;subject] verb[speak;present] preposition[in] noun[formspec]
17:37 * rubenwardy shivers in disgust
17:41 rdococ       is that pronoun in first, second or third person?
17:42 pranav       * what is going on
17:42 rubenwardy   I could care more
17:42 pranav       how to do this * thing
17:42 rubenwardy   pranav, /me
17:42 rubenwardy   you can also do that in Minetest
17:43 * rdococ     remembers when I used to use first person pronouns in /me commands
17:44 rdococ       Pronoun(1, 1) + Verb("speak", t) + Preposition("in") + Noun(Prefix("pseudo") + Hyphen() + Root("code"))
17:44 rdococ       13where t = 2OS.2GetCurrentTime()
17:46 habeangur    while (t != Os.GetDinnerTime()); OS.EatDinner(OS.Foods.Pizza(0, 1));
17:46 habeangur    s/Os/OS/g
17:47 rdococ       Eh?
17:48 rdococ       4X Error     | Malformed "2while" invocation
17:51 rdococ       YAY
17:57 habeangur    rubenwardy: it's a long time which I was studing your book and your nicely formatted API, but now I know who is the author! I just wanted to say thanks
17:57 rubenwardy   thanks :D
17:57 habeangur    rubenwardy: for the book  and formatted API
17:57 rubenwardy   I'm hoping to add new chapters and improve things soon!
17:57 habeangur    rubenwardy: good :)
17:58 juhdanad     rubenwardy: may I help with hardware colorization?
17:58 rubenwardy   sure!
17:58 rubenwardy   juhdanad, https://github.com/rubenwardy/minetest_modding_book
17:58 rubenwardy   it may be worth adding a new chapter
17:58 rubenwardy   idk
17:59 rubenwardy   maybe "Node Paramtypes"?
18:00 juhdanad     Now I see that it is Markdown, not HTML! It was suprising.
18:00 rubenwardy   makes writing it easier
18:01 rubenwardy   it's annoying how markdown doesn't officially support macros
18:01 habeangur    yea
18:02 habeangur    but the first part :p
18:02 rubenwardy   then I could do something like   #tip:  Make sure to save the file!
18:02 rubenwardy   and it would put it in a nice box
18:02 rubenwardy   instead I have to use HTML
18:02 rubenwardy   see https://raw.githubusercontent.com/rubenwardy/minetest_modding_book/gh-pages/en/chapters/hud.md
18:02 rubenwardy   although github displays it rather nicely
18:03 rdococ       ████ ████ █
18:03 pranav       sry to tune it to a depressing note bt...
18:03 pranav       why r ppl on minetest srvers decrasing
18:03 rdococ       ?
18:04 rubenwardy   heh
18:04 rubenwardy   there's 594 people online currently
18:04 rdococ       I didn't even know people could decrase
18:04 * rdococ     tries decrasing
18:04 rubenwardy   a year or so ago it was 200 ish
18:04 pranav       yeah bt that totaled by bots and spam players
18:04 pranav       decrease
18:04 pranav       ok
18:05 pranav       and i cannot see many on servers
18:05 pranav       like..playing
18:05 rdococ       I don't really care about bots and spammers, to be honest. What really (sfan5: literally) grinds my gears is the mobile clients that charge you for things like fly.
18:05 pranav       bt pppl who PLAY minetest r decresing
18:06 rdococ       I should try decresing too.
18:06 pranav       sry....bt wht is the meaning of devs whn players r decrasing
18:06 sfan5        i decrease every night in my sleep
18:06 pranav       not to say u guys stop
18:06 rdococ       what is an u guy?
18:06 pranav       goddamn wud u guys jst stop ot
18:06 rdococ       uh
18:06 pranav       it
18:07 rdococ       what do "wud", "u", "jst" and "ot" mean?
18:07 pranav       bt pppl who PLAY minetest r decreasing
18:07 pranav       happy now
18:07 rdococ       I'm not a grammar freak but this is funny
18:07 pranav       ppl means people
18:07 rdococ       "bt". "pppl".
18:07 pranav       bt means but
18:07 rdococ       I know what ppl means. but not what pppl means.
18:07 sfan5        anyway what's your point?
18:07 rdococ       are you sure you didn't mean to say "butt"? :P
18:08 pranav       i mean to say that PEOPLE who are playing minetest are DECREASING
18:08 sfan5        and?
18:08 pranav       and devs SHOULD do something about it maybe
18:08 pranav       IT
18:09 pranav       BECAUSE no meaning to improve game without PEOPLE playing it
18:10 juhdanad     But to make people play the game, one has to improve it.
18:11 juhdanad     If people don't play the game that gives more meaning to develop it because it is not good enough.
18:14 rdococ       MY caps LOCK button KEEPS turning ON and OFF randomly WHEN I place SPACE, WHAT the FU
18:14 rdococ       N
18:14 Natechip     apperently autocorrect isnt working either rdococ
18:15 rdococ       wat IS autokurrekt?
18:15 rdococ       eer, i MEEN ORtokurrekct
18:16 pranav       yeah bt it doesnt seem to be increasing
18:16 pranav       YEAH mine TOO
18:16 Errante      Hello, got irc mod working, but not under windows, got it with fedora, lua-socket-compat and compat-lua
18:16 pranav       rDocOC
18:17 rdococ       PWaMaW
19:50 habeangur    again they said bots
19:50 habeangur    ...
19:57 jas_         lol
20:00 spoky99_     I have the debug info for titanium, pointing to the bloch this is the result "pointing_at xtraores:stone_with_titanium - default_stone.png^xtraores_mineral_titanium.png"
20:01 spoky99_     how I can bring it?
20:01 rubenwardy   !mod xtraores
20:01 MinetestBot  rubenwardy: xtraores 2016.03.23 [xtraores] by davidthecreator - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=12798
20:03 wrcwpk[m]    spoky99_: what do you mean bring it? Like mine the block?
20:03 spoky99_     yess
20:04 spoky99_     I read and re read the forum, for other extraores is writen the mining materia of the pick, for the titanium is missing or my poor english don't help me find it
20:05 wrcwpk[m]    From m-ore mod?
20:07 spoky99_     for crafting an armor, I see a player with a titanium armor and give a lot of power
20:08 wrcwpk[m]    https://youtu.be/RrfIP3jvU98?t=5m43s
20:09 wrcwpk[m]    Checkout that video starting where I linked it to and it will show you how to make titanium
20:26 spoky99_     thanksQ!
20:26 spoky99_     thanks!
20:55 nore         ~tell Wuzzy you might want to test the scripts in https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/6325 for the translations
20:55 ShadowBot    nore: O.K.
21:35 IhrFussel    Will you people EVER stop with this "bots" nonsense?
21:35 Bobr         u ok IhrFussel?
21:35 IhrFussel    Just because they have a name with a number at the end doesn't make them bots
21:36 Bobr         true
21:37 IhrFussel    I was reading the IRC log where pranav said "people that play minetest are decreasing while bot players are increasing" which is bullcrap
21:37 Bobr         yep
21:38 IhrFussel    But some people seem 100% sure that those mobile players are bots...I wish I could show them the source code of the many clone apps that contains the HUGE list of names
22:46 Lone-Star    ok, why would a mod disable itself after game is shut down?
22:46 Lone-Star    handle_schematics is the mod in question
22:50 sc3k-x200    how would i remove a players inventory on death?
22:50 rubenwardy   see the bones could
22:50 rubenwardy   *code
22:50 sc3k-x200    ok
22:50 rubenwardy   it uses    minetest.register_on_dieplayer
22:50 rubenwardy   then clears the inventory
22:51 rubenwardy   so you could do       local inv = player:get_inventory()           inv:set_list("main", {})
22:51 rubenwardy   there's also craft
22:51 rubenwardy   inv:set_list("craft", {})     I believe
22:55 mmeme        hello
22:56 sc3k-x200    rubenwardy, thanks i will try it