Time  Nick         Message
04:24 jas_         hi
04:24 jas_         !server
04:24 MinetestBot  jas_: Linux.Org.Ru MaDnEsS | minetestserver.ga | Clients: 0/15, 0/3 | Version: 0.4.16 / minetest | Ping: 48ms
05:01 XeonSquared  so MT doesn't still have the render far terrain as polygon option, does it?
05:03 XeonSquared  farmesh
05:08 VanessaE     not since years
05:08 VanessaE     but celeron55 had an idea that worked half-way well called "farmap"
05:08 VanessaE     (variably-sized nodes depending on render distance)
05:09 VanessaE     (variable at rendering time only of course)
05:16 jas_         https://youtu.be/pDEWE-4bGsc
05:16 jas_         !title
05:16 MinetestBot  jas_: minetest dcbl server subgame - YouTube
05:16 jas_         i haven't updated mt/mtg in a couple days, but here's a video of my running in circles on my server
06:09 zyabin101    How do I make a proper wieldhand?
06:10 zyabin101    (Not that having a hand that changes shape with the node/item is not fun, but...)
06:11 jas_         what's that?  like the image of a hand holding the item?
06:12 zyabin101    A wieldhand is what is held when you are holding nothing
06:12 zyabin101    (Definition: A player is always holding something)
06:13 jas_         so what's a proper wieldhand as opposed to what we have now?
06:13 zyabin101    It doesn't change shape with the node/item, for one :)
06:13 jas_         i was laying in bed and got killed and respawned in that same bed with no wieldhand just now!
06:13 jas_         kinda funny
06:14 jas_         reconnecting fixed it
06:16 jas_         i still dunno what you mean, sorry.  maybe someone could elaborate.
06:20 zyabin101    http://imgur.com/MQGy7Au
06:21 jas_         i think i'm more confused now!  isn't that what we have currently?
06:21 zyabin101    ^ After placing an origin block over another origin block, the wieldhand changed to the size of a single node
06:22 jas_         there's : which is nothing (wieldhand.png i think) and then whatever you're holding (wielding: wield_image = {} ??)
06:23 jas_         i dunno, i never thought anything of it.  if you're not holding anything, it's a hand
06:23 jas_         if you are holding something, it's an image of whatever you're holding
06:23 zyabin101    However, I'm sure a hand can't be a 1-meter square XD
06:23 zyabin101    s/square/cube/
06:24 jas_         well that's not how it looks normally
06:24 zyabin101    how can I make it look normally?
06:25 jas_         http://imgur.com/a/Ac1rq
06:25 jas_         i dunno, what'd you change?
06:39 jas_         i added pictures while holding items
07:30 excelereight is there a good way to isolate the cause of high max_lag values outside of just disabling mods?
08:53 MinetestBot  02[git] 04nerzhul -> 03minetest/minetest: Player class: disable copy 13ab9f3b9 https://git.io/v7QbH (152017-08-14T08:52:59Z)
08:58 MinetestBot  02[git] 04nerzhul -> 03minetest/minetest: Player::getSpeed/setSpeed use const refs 133eb9ff5 https://git.io/v7QA3 (152017-08-14T08:56:06Z)
09:17 hisforever   lost url to past screen shote please share it?
09:25 jas_         Hisforever: http://imgur.com/MQGy7Au
09:25 hisforever   ty as_
09:26 jas_         Mine was http://imgur.com/a/Ac1rq
09:26 hisforever   ty Jas_
09:30 jas_         No problemo.
09:30 hisforever   ok Now I need help with these errors please http://imgur.com/a/8Bzgq?
09:32 jas_         Missing textures?  Wrong directory?
09:35 hisforever   ok Jas_: how do I find the right directory?
09:39 jas_         it's the textures directory
09:39 jas_         this is outlined in the beginning of lua_api.txt
09:39 hisforever   Just reinstalled OS and minetest
09:40 jas_         yep if you got the textures and it's your mod, make sure you put 'em in the textures/ dir
09:41 hisforever   thanks Jas_: I just install mods not good at this kind of program
09:42 jas_         that's ok, i can't even figure out how to roast this pumpkin seed
09:42 hisforever   ok Dorry but I'mon here too long noe God bless I have to log out
09:42 jas_         oh, i cook the actual pumpkin
09:42 jas_         if your missing textures, try redownloading the mod, or asking the author
09:43 * jas_       eats a virtual roasted pumpkin
11:58 MinetestBot  02[git] 04paramat -> 03minetest/minetest: Advanced settings: Re-organise mapgen settings for ease of use 13940bd93 https://git.io/v77ZS (152017-08-14T11:53:12Z)
11:58 MinetestBot  02[git] 04juhdanad -> 03minetest/minetest: Make dropped items colorable 1371b02d6 https://git.io/v77ZH (152017-08-14T11:52:13Z)
11:58 MinetestBot  02[git] 04HybridDog -> 03minetest/minetest: L-system: Fix leaves cutting through stems 134493d47 https://git.io/v77ZQ (152017-08-14T11:38:21Z)
18:08 MinetestBot  02[git] 04rubenwardy -> 03minetest/minetest_game: Make ice slippery 1320687a6 https://git.io/v75Jq (152017-08-14T18:06:54Z)
19:08 Wuzzy        What does this error mean: “id=12345 m_static_exists=true but static data doesn't actually exist in (1,2,3)”
19:08 Wuzzy        i got it frequently when modding but have no idea what it means
19:10 sofar        probably an error serializing the entity
19:11 Wuzzy        is this an engine thing?
19:11 sofar        and then at load time it can't find the data
19:11 sofar        I'm not sure, could be a mod problem perhaps
19:11 Wuzzy        what could cause this?
19:12 sofar        unsure, I'd have to look at the code
19:12 sofar        the most likely explanation would be a bad mod
19:12 sofar        but, I wouldn't rule out an engine bug
19:14 Wuzzy        what could a modder possibly do wrong with an entity?
19:14 sofar        https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/bb1c71158613c1f17c57e53ad489b076a11e3828/src/serverenvironment.cpp#L2065
19:14 Wuzzy        like, are there some "rules" you must follow?
19:14 rubenwardy   looks like an engine bug
19:14 rubenwardy   I get it a lot too
19:14 rubenwardy   it's probably fiinnnee
19:15 sfan5        it is
19:15 sofar        the https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L3896
19:15 Wuzzy        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oBx7Jg4m-o&spfreload=10
19:15 sofar        it could fail to return a valid string?
19:15 rubenwardy   nil?
19:16 sfan5        that doesn't look like it would trigger the warning
19:16 sofar        I'm just guessing here, really
19:16 sofar        maybe if it returned a non-string type?
19:16 Wuzzy        sfan5: so this error is triggerd when an attempt to serialize the entity is done. correct?
19:16 sfan5        no
19:16 sofar        it's when loading mapblocks with stored entities
19:17 sfan5        this warning just voices the engines confusion if the static data doesn't exist in the block where the object used to be
19:17 Wuzzy        error*
19:17 sfan5        well it should be a warning
19:17 Wuzzy        this is on error level, not warning
19:17 Wuzzy        ohhhhhh
19:17 Wuzzy        so it screams in big fat red letters in chat
19:18 Wuzzy        this errorwarning appears when I experiment with lotsa carts in MTG 0.4.16
19:18 sfan5        the fact that this warning can even happen is an engine bug tho
19:19 Wuzzy        nice
19:19 Wuzzy        hooray I found an engine bug xD I'm so proud
19:20 sfan5        indirectly
19:21 Wuzzy        so in this sense, its correct that its a big fat red error
19:21 Wuzzy        context: I am currently working on the mod tsm_railcorridor
19:21 Wuzzy        context: I am currently working on the mod tsm_railcorridors*
19:21 Wuzzy        i am trying to add cart on the rails
19:22 Wuzzy        well it kinds works but i am forced to use a workaround because minetest.add_entity is broken
19:23 Wuzzy        the workaround kinda works but now I get my chat spammed wit this strange errorwarning when I fly through the world
19:23 AntumDeluge  Is there a tutorial/instructions on how to use node highlighting?
19:24 Wuzzy        yes
19:24 Wuzzy        1: go into options
19:24 AntumDeluge  I'm sorry...
19:24 AntumDeluge  I didn't mean node highlighting...
19:24 Wuzzy        click on the drop-down list
19:24 AntumDeluge  I meant node coloring
19:24 Wuzzy        no
19:24 AntumDeluge  I believe it's called "hardware node coloring".
19:24 AntumDeluge  Okay, I'll have a look in the code of some other mods using it.
19:25 rubenwardy   it's done using paramtype2
19:25 rubenwardy   I'm not sure how though
19:25 AntumDeluge  Okay, so I have to set 'paramtype2' to a certain value first of all?
19:26 rubenwardy   https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L433
19:26 rubenwardy   AntumDeluge ^
19:26 Wuzzy        sfan5: maybe this m_static_exists bug is related to the broken minetest.add_entity? hmm
19:26 AntumDeluge  Thank you rubenwardy.
19:28 AntumDeluge  Should textures from mods using hardware coloring use a specific color space, like grayscale, or does it even matter?
19:29 rubenwardy   AntumDeluge, as long as you conform to the palette it's fine
19:29 AntumDeluge  Okay.
19:30 AntumDeluge  Also, the link you pointed at mentions 'param2'. Is this an alias of 'paramtype2'?
19:30 rubenwardy   paramtype2 is the type of param2
19:30 rubenwardy   so I meant param2
19:30 Brackston    Since the current version of mesecons has a conflict between the micro controller and the lua controller the recipe for the lua actually makes a microcontroller, I submitted a PR to git hub that only changes the recipe of the deprecated microcontroller.
19:30 AntumDeluge  Okay.
19:30 Brackston    https://github.com/minetest-mods/mesecons/pull/353
19:30 rubenwardy   really it should be param2type aha
19:30 AntumDeluge  I agree.
20:22 Wuzzy        has anybody else seen an error like this?:
20:22 Wuzzy        m_static_exists=true but static data doesn't actually exist in (x, y, z)
20:25 Brackston    that would be the half of the doors that remain after removing them using worldedit? yet the door appears to be gone from the base location except one block up it remains. I heard Billre Talking about something like that before.