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01:09 aldobr hi all
01:11 kaeza greetings, aldobr
01:11 aldobr I cannot log in to minetest forums, if I try to recover my password, it says "The e-mail/username information submitted could not be found.", but the username exists (and my email is the same as when I registered).
01:11 aldobr if I search for my forum posts, the user "aldobr" exists and has the same avatar etc, it was not deleted
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01:14 aldobr kaeza watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv6UVOQ0F44 (this is an evolutionary neural network written in lua)
01:14 aldobr now with client side scripting, might be possible to run neural networks on clients to control bots
01:14 aldobr (distribute the load)
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03:47 MinetestBot [git] sofar -> minetest/minetest_game: Chest open model: UV map fix. c7d558c https://git.io/v9rZV (2017-05-08T03:47:17Z)
03:47 MinetestBot [git] sofar -> minetest/minetest_game: Fix nil deref issue with people hitting chests too often. 55f81d0 https://git.io/v9rZw (2017-05-08T03:47:17Z)
03:47 MinetestBot [git] SmallJoker -> minetest/minetest_game: Chests: Keep old textures for mod compability a533434 https://git.io/v9rZr (2017-05-08T03:46:49Z)
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04:15 epoch o/
04:18 redblade7 new textures for chests?
04:18 redblade7 i know i liked the old bones better than the new ones
04:18 redblade7 wasnt too happy when you changed those
04:18 redblade7 they look cuter now instead of realistic
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05:05 MinetestBot [git] paramat -> minetest/minetest: Custom step height: Fix implementation 5e04f1a https://git.io/v9rCq (2017-05-08T04:59:19Z)
05:05 MinetestBot [git] paramat -> minetest/minetest: Shaders: Remove unused water surface shader 3342dcc https://git.io/v9rCm (2017-05-08T04:58:59Z)
05:05 slemonide hey
05:05 slemonide what happened to nyancats?
05:07 epoch brutally murdered
05:07 nore *surgically removed
05:08 nore (to avoid potential legal issues)
05:08 slemonide you monsters
05:09 nore slemonide: they still are available as a mod
05:12 nore see https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?f=18&t=17101
05:13 sofar didn't I throw it in minetest-mods yet?
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05:13 epoch bah.
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05:15 nore sofar: don't remember, pbj_pup is there at least
05:15 nore not sure about nyan cat (doesn't it contradict the rules of minetest-mods though?)
05:15 sofar hmmmm you're right, I threw in pbj_pup
05:17 slemonide world is a terrible place
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05:21 redblade7 nyancats removed?
05:21 redblade7 what legal issue
05:21 redblade7 are we being sued for things now?
05:22 sofar no, but nyan cat is a registered trademark, and the trademark holder has protected that trademark on several occasions
05:22 sofar therefore, the mod is effectively -NC -ND licensed and therefore is in violation of the minetest license spirit
05:23 VanessaE PB&J Pup was supposed to be the answer to that.
05:23 VanessaE people didn't like it.
05:23 sofar people hate change
05:23 VanessaE yeah
05:23 sofar that's why they vote conservative
05:24 redblade7 what about that machine in homedecor? they've been suing people constantly and is the exception for cloning games because they won in court
05:25 redblade7 would hate to see that go
05:25 redblade7 is this becoming an issue now?
05:25 VanessaE what, the tetris minigame?
05:25 sofar homedecor isn't in minetest
05:25 sofar period
05:25 sofar end of debate
05:25 redblade7 yeah
05:25 sofar we're talking minetest/minetest_game
05:25 redblade7 no i meant the mod
05:25 redblade7 oh ok
05:26 sofar anyone can make anything
05:26 redblade7 i thought you were talking about any mod at all
05:26 sofar you could make a mod with coca cola signs
05:26 sofar I could care less
05:26 sofar but it will never make it into minetest_game
05:26 VanessaE afaik they'd have no grounds to sue, because the person who implemented it is dead anyway
05:26 VanessaE the coke machine in Homedecor is exempt - it uses only out-of-copyright imagery
05:27 sofar it's actually likely a proper use of trademark
05:27 redblade7 tetris?
05:27 sofar you're not using it to sell fake coke
05:27 VanessaE right
05:27 VanessaE totally different market, so no grounds
05:28 redblade7 i think the tetris developers are the only example of suing a game clone successfully in history and as a result tetris clones are banned pretty much everywhere
05:29 redblade7 there's something on wikipedia i think about it
05:29 sofar irrelevant, nyan cat was removed from minetest_game because the minetest_game devs agreed on it
05:29 redblade7 ok
05:29 VanessaE I imagine only commercial clones of tetris are at risk anyway
05:30 redblade7 i wasnt talking about minetest_game, just in general
05:30 sofar we were not
05:30 redblade7 always kinda wondered with regard to some of the homedecor modpack items
05:30 sofar and honesly, I don't want to talk about other random mods
05:30 sofar here's a can of worms
05:30 sofar DONT OPEN IT
05:30 VanessaE heh
05:31 * sofar shoos redblade7 with a legal disclaimer
05:31 * VanessaE hands sofar a bag of cats to go with the canm
05:31 VanessaE -m
05:31 redblade7 i dont think there's anything wrong with pb&j pup, has a confetti look
05:31 VanessaE it was supposed to be candy :(
05:31 redblade7 my servers use stable code but i wont mind when there's the switch over
05:32 slemonide idk, nyancats kind of gave minetest a distinct taste
05:33 slemonide imho, the void needs to be replaced with something
05:35 VanessaE slemonide: that's what PB&J Pup was for, like I said.
05:35 VanessaE I created the base imagery to replace the nyan cat but still keeping a sort of "cutesy" character and name specific to Minetest.
05:36 VanessaE sofar: maybe you guys should put it back in, just ditch the sound effects and animation?
05:36 redblade7 nyancats has sound and animation?
05:37 sofar pbj_pup has
05:39 slemonide Also, is there any chance that there will be legal problems with minetest resembling minecraft?
05:40 VanessaE nope.
05:40 VanessaE only if minecraft is in some legal risk for resembling infiniminer.
05:40 VanessaE (the game on which it was based)
05:41 slemonide oh, ok then
05:41 VanessaE you can't copyright basic elements like dirt, sand, cobblestone, etc, and the overall nature of the game has plenty of pre-Minecraft prior art
05:41 VanessaE none of minetest's code imagery or other assets is taken from Minecraft (or any other game for that matter)
05:42 VanessaE so basically, Microsoft wouldn't have any standing to complain
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06:03 redblade7 why does opening and closing minetest move pulseaudio to 100%
06:03 redblade7 it's really annoying
06:03 redblade7 sometimes 0%
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06:31 YuGiOhJCJ redblade7, not on my system I run pavucontrol, then I set all my bars to 60%, then I run minetest, then I close minetest, then my bars are still at 60% (not 100%)
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07:32 w_laenger I want to request a change in code style guidelines.
07:33 w_laenger When you want to increment or decrement a variable by 1, you should be allowed to leave out the spaces.
07:37 w_laenger So for example if you would write ++i in cpp, in lua you can write i = i+1 instead of i = i + 1
07:40 w_laenger You can always leave out the spaces when in-/decrementing the variable by 1 and you want to have the "neighbour".
07:43 w_laenger e.g. When appending a new value into a table t, you're allowed to write t[#t+1] = v instead of t[#t + 1] = v, but when you explicitly want to add 1 to some value you mustn't omit the spaces, e.g. playerpos.y = playerpos.y + 1.
07:45 w_laenger Are there any objections?
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08:08 w_laenger Ok, I think there're no objections.
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08:20 IhrFussel Hello^^ regarding the new "[randomname][XXX]" player names I think I found the cause: It's Multicraft now forcing the users to be a VIP (paying) to be able to use their regular names
08:22 IhrFussel Someone on my server told me that his app (supposedly Multicraft) doesn't let him use his old name anymore without paying for VIP...That is the VERY DEFINITION of unacceptable if true
08:25 IhrFussel Or maybe Multicraft locks accounts to devices and the players lose their old devices effectively losing their accounts without being a VIP ... either way it's UNACCEPTABLE
08:27 IhrFussel Since iOS users don't have much other choices in terms of Minetest clients
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09:11 JamesTait Good morning all! Happy Monday, and happy Iris Day! 😃  🌷
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09:39 sfan5 IhrFussel: it's clearly not Multicraft since the iOS app does not even support multiplayer
09:41 IhrFussel sfan5, are you sure? Many players say they use Multicraft on iOS ... and they say "fly" is locked behind a paywall ... now it seems to also lock accounts behind paywalls
09:42 sfan5 maybe its a different app named similarily
09:42 sfan5 because this https://github.com/MultiCraftProject/MultiCraft for sure doesn't support multiplayer on ios
09:43 IhrFussel Well if it isn't Multicraft then it's another that MANY people seem to use (since those random names + 3 digit number appear on every server)
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09:44 IhrFussel It's a shame that we can't do anything against it...really bad that the licenses don't meet the requirements in the App Store, now a MAJORITY of players will "lose" their accounts
09:48 IhrFussel Almost 100!! players with such names joined alone yesterday on my server...now imagine if EACH of them lost their account due to this paywall thing...That's CRAZY
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13:30 IhrFussel I took a look at some of the servers now...and I gotta say...SOME servers have ridiculous rules "don't argue with admins/moderators" WHAT? Admins/moderators cannot be wrong? What kind of slavery is that?
13:32 IhrFussel When I read some of those rules I feel like throwing up...like the server owner would be some kind of god
13:33 IhrFussel "No dating" it is NONE of the staff's business what players do privately on a server
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13:34 IhrFussel I would understand "No dating in the public chat" but to prohibit any kind of dating is just stupid
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13:38 IhrFussel I'm GLAD that reading PMs for fun is illegal here in Germany, I don't wanna know what the admins do on other servers where it's fine
13:43 IhrFussel Ah another stupid rule "Be loyal to this server" AWESOME, now when I play on another servers and an admin/moderator catches me I will be in trouble
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13:51 Calinou I suggest that instead of giving good rules, we give bad rules.
13:51 Calinou - No joining server after 8PM
13:51 Calinou - Dating server admins will get you privileges
13:51 Calinou - Please beg for items only on Mondays
13:52 Calinou https://xkcd.com/1820/
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13:54 IhrFussel Calinou, the 2nd rule might eben exist *shrug*
13:54 IhrFussel even*
13:55 IhrFussel Well maybe not as a "rule" but I could imagine that there are some owners that take advantage of their status and use it for hitting up girls
13:55 IhrFussel on girls*
13:57 IhrFussel Probably even young girls...
14:04 Markow Haha, no dating!
14:04 Markow And admins of servers should be open to constructive criticism.
14:13 IhrFussel Markow, but how would the admin feel supercool then? xP
14:14 Markow lol
14:15 IhrFussel Admins shouldn't just be open to criticism...they should simply let regular players ARGUE with them if necessary IMO
14:17 IhrFussel Cause an admin is also just a simple person who makes mistakes...you shouldn't try to run away from your problems
14:18 IhrFussel But that is exactly what many people online do when they are in charge of something...they think they are in their own little world now and everything should follow their rules...it's disgusting
14:18 ThomasMonroe_ i agree there
14:21 IhrFussel It doesn't have to be a server they own...it can also just be a simple web chat, or YouTube account...they act like pricks from another planet who know better no matter what
14:24 IhrFussel One of my reasons to offer a server was because I knew I am NOT like this (and I think quite a few other server admins in Minetest share my thoughts) and I wanted to provide a FAIR world where nobody is better than another...I feel like a regular player with more responsibility and IMHO that is how an admin should act like
14:24 ThomasMonroe_ im one of the admins that agree
14:24 Markow IhrFussel: What type of server do you run? Creative, PvP, etc
14:27 IhrFussel Markow, it's largely survival but with a creative twist: You earn Creative Points from building/digging/chatting and when you got enough you can take exchange those points for an item stack from the menu...PvP is only enabled in a certain area
14:27 IhrFussel -take*
14:28 IhrFussel But the use of CP is entirely optional...players can also ignore it and just craft everything they need
14:30 IhrFussel But my server is almost dead right now...too much rivalry I'm guessing
14:33 Markow IhrFussel: A great type of server would be a Creative one where players have a designated area of about 200x200 blocks to build a city or town and have them all connected via railway, with a station in every town.
14:34 Markow I'm not sure how many of this type are out there now.
14:34 IhrFussel My server has 40+ cities now, most of them aren't finished but IF you would connect all those cities it would be like a country haha
14:34 Markow Wow, great
14:35 Markow So you have no railway yet?
14:36 IhrFussel One of my moderators started connecting nearby cities to theirs via roads (since my server has cars)
14:36 ThomasMonroe_ which server is yours?
14:36 IhrFussel IhrFussel's Server
14:36 ThomasMonroe_ ok
14:37 IhrFussel My server was extremely popular ones...with 20+ players 24/7 in case you wonder how those cities were created on such a "dead" server
14:37 IhrFussel once*
14:38 Markow These cities are spread out?
14:38 IhrFussel Players chose any random location and started to build
14:39 IhrFussel There is an ingame list of (almost) all cities...I made it so players can instantly tp to them by typing the city name in the chat
14:39 MinetestBot [git] numberZero -> minetest-mods/mesecons: Fix crash when error()ing an invalid value 564bdc2 https://git.io/v9o43 (2017-05-08T14:34:30Z)
14:40 ThomasMonroe_ thats cool
14:42 IhrFussel But of course since every city was built by another player the quality varies A LOT
14:42 ThomasMonroe_ as one would expect
14:45 IhrFussel ThomasMonroe_, true but it also makes it kinda difficult to "present" you know x)
14:46 ThomasMonroe_ yeah i understand
14:46 IhrFussel There are a few cities that I personally find ugly and rubbish...but I can't remove them since I have no reason to do so
14:46 ThomasMonroe_ true
14:47 IhrFussel I share the opinion that players kinda "own" the stuff they built
14:48 Markow Hehe, so you then have 'slums' on the map, which is realistic!
14:48 ThomasMonroe_ but not very appealing
14:48 IhrFussel Markow, I think one city was made out of dirt lol
14:49 Markow haha!
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14:53 IhrFussel Markow, the best city I think is "Little Japan" ... it's the city of one of my moderators and it looks very Japanese actually
14:54 IhrFussel You even drive on the other lane compared to USA/major Europe
14:55 Markow That's nice!
14:56 Markow The Far East architecture adds good diversity
15:00 IhrFussel Yep...she worked for weeks on it now and it's still not quite done yet
15:02 IhrFussel I should mention that she uses WorldEdit constantly too so a build with WE that takes weeks is...something
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16:40 fadavi anyone here is running minetest on GNU/Linux?
16:41 ThomasMonroe_ i am
16:42 IhrFussel My server runs on Ubuntu...should count too x)
16:42 Out`Of`Control no
16:42 Out`Of`Control debian here
16:43 fadavi Out`Of`Control, IhrFussel, ThomasMonroe_: im trying to run minetest on Ubuntu 17.04. its OK, but it seems that available version on Ubuntu repos is too old.
16:43 ThomasMonroe_ .13?
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16:43 Out`Of`Control compile it
16:43 ThomasMonroe_ ^
16:43 fadavi ThomasMonroe_: 0.4.15
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16:44 IhrFussel fadavi, Calinou provides a one-liner in the forums...just google "Calinou ubuntu one-liner"
16:44 ThomasMonroe_ thats not that old
16:44 ThomasMonroe_ i typically play on .13 :)
16:44 Out`Of`Control 0.4.15 is last stable one
16:44 fadavi IhrFussel: thanks, will try it now.
16:46 fadavi ThomasMonroe_, Out`Of`Control: so... i think i've problem with mods! could not activate some mods like monsters, etc.
16:46 IhrFussel It will automatically install all dependencies, fetch the newest Minetest from git + minetest game and then compile... fadavi do you need it as client or server?
16:46 Krock just grab the source from master and revert to HEAD~20 to ensure there's no wrecked collision box change
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16:46 Krock compile & you'll even have fancy client side modding
16:46 Out`Of`Control fadavi: look in debug.txt
16:47 Calinou hi
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16:47 ThomasMonroe_ hi DS
16:47 DS-minetest hi ThomasMonroe_
16:48 fadavi IhrFussel: im new to minetest; was playing Minecraft. but, as i heared, Minetest is free and decided to try it. so... if i can successfully run it, will start a server for my family :D
16:48 ThomasMonroe_ ok cool
16:48 IhrFussel Oh so you run it on your PC with GUI? Then it's alright to just run the one-liner as is
16:49 Krock quite depressing that the only motivation to give Minetest a try is the money
16:49 fadavi Out`Of`Control: its better to install mods from Ubuntu repos or github?!
16:49 IhrFussel github
16:49 fadavi IhrFussel: yes
16:50 fadavi IhrFussel: thanks.
16:50 Krock git clone directly, that's the most common and best "supported" way
16:50 DS-minetest fadavi: use the ppa
16:50 DS-minetest it's easier
16:50 ThomasMonroe_ if it works DS ;)
16:50 IhrFussel On github you will *usually* always have the newest versions + patches
16:51 * DS-minetest is happy with the daily ppa
16:52 fadavi DS-minetest: which ppa? that includes mods too?
16:52 Out`Of`Control mods in ppa???
16:52 red-001 anything is possible in ubuntu land
16:53 fadavi Out`Of`Control: idk. official repos includes some of mods. like 'animalmaterials', 'animals', 'maidroid', etc. i guessed the ppa should be more completed :)
16:53 Krock fadavi, he meant getting Minetest from there, not the mods
16:54 DS-minetest actually you can find eg. pipeworks in synaptic
16:54 red-001 RE: Players connecting with random names. I'm pretty sure I once saw a minetest fork on google play that included a whole giant list of names in it's source code
16:57 DS-minetest fadavi: i mean this ppa: https://launchpad.net/~minetestd​evs/+archive/ubuntu/daily-builds
16:58 DS-minetest btw what mod is it that makes the player white if he gets damage?
16:59 fadavi DS-minetest: thanks, after installing minetest from this ppa, you install mods in which directory?
16:59 red-001 isn't that a bug?
16:59 Out`Of`Control bug is a great mod
17:00 DS-minetest red-001: yeah, i mean, what mod causes that bug
17:00 PureTryOut[m] red-001: `~/.minetest/mods`
17:00 PureTryOut[m] eeuh wrong nick
17:00 PureTryOut[m] fadavi: ^
17:00 DS-minetest fadavi: put in your home folder/.minetest/mods
17:00 red-001 my money is on armor
17:00 IhrFussel fadavi, I recommend you to put mods in .minetest/worlds/[worldname]/worldmods so you can have mods-per-world
17:00 fadavi DS-minetest: thanks again.
17:01 DS-minetest IhrFussel: that is possible?
17:01 red-001 yes
17:01 IhrFussel Also: If you put your mods in worldmods they are enabled automatically
17:01 DS-minetest but it's not very often needed
17:01 red-001 you can even have per-world games
17:01 DS-minetest good to know
17:01 fadavi IhrFussel: i think, thats a good idea :D
17:02 red-001 not sure why you would want to use that through
17:02 DS-minetest fadavi: worlds have to be configured to enable mods
17:02 DS-minetest the only use case i see is if you have to different mods / mod versions with the same name
17:02 fadavi last question! please tell me a list of mods, to make minetest like Minecraft PE, as many as possible.
17:03 ThomasMonroe_ MCLN2
17:03 ThomasMonroe_ or MineClone2
17:03 DS-minetest fadavi: there's a subgame called mineclone2
17:03 ThomasMonroe_ its pretty good
17:03 ThomasMonroe_ textures are awesome
17:03 DS-minetest but i wouldn't use it...
17:03 ThomasMonroe_ why not DS?
17:04 DS-minetest it's very unfinished, laggy and co.
17:04 DS-minetest and minetest has more and better stuff
17:04 ThomasMonroe_ well yeah, true there is that
17:04 fadavi DS-minetest: subgames are different to mods?!
17:04 ThomasMonroe_ subgames are a set of mods
17:04 red-001 subgames are whole mod packages
17:04 ThomasMonroe_ that override all other mods
17:04 ThomasMonroe_ sort of
17:04 fadavi aha
17:04 ThomasMonroe_ all default mods anyway
17:05 red-001 they don't depend on anything other then the engine
17:05 red-001 modpacks are collections of mods that need a subgame to be used
17:05 DS-minetest fadavi: u already have 2 subgames together with the mt core: minimal and minetest_game
17:05 ThomasMonroe_ im gong to start making one :)
17:05 red-001 don't use minimal
17:06 DS-minetest place subgames in ~/.minetset/games
17:06 ThomasMonroe_ what is minetset DS?
17:06 ThomasMonroe_ ;)
17:06 fadavi DS-minetest: where can i find MineClone2?
17:06 DS-minetest ahh, that always happens
17:07 DS-minetest fadavi: go to forum
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17:07 Krock !mod mineclone2
17:07 DS-minetest fadavi: i suggest playing the tutorial subgame and worlds
17:07 MinetestBot Krock: Could not find anything.
17:07 DS-minetest -s
17:07 DS-minetest *
17:07 DS-minetest !game MineClone2
17:08 DS-minetest !subgame MineClone2
17:08 DS-minetest hm
17:08 Krock the title is most likely not formatted correctly
17:08 DS-minetest !mod mesecons
17:08 MinetestBot DS-minetest: Mesecons (= redstone) [mesecons] by Jeija - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=628
17:08 red-001 !mod chatlog
17:08 MinetestBot red-001: Chat log [chatlog] by JBR - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=6220
17:08 Krock !mod mineclone 2
17:08 MinetestBot Krock: MineClone 2 by Wuzzy - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=16407
17:09 fadavi DS-minetest: im installing minetest from daily ppa...
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17:10 DS-minetest fadavi: ok, but don't forget updating then
17:11 fadavi DS-minetest: ok. installed minetest. now, whats your suggestion to have a good experience in minetest? MineClone2? or what?!
17:12 DS-minetest !mod tutorial
17:12 MinetestBot DS-minetest: / Tutorial / by Wuzzy - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=10192
17:12 DS-minetest that
17:12 fadavi DS-minetest: thanks. im going to read that link.
17:12 DS-minetest : )
17:15 Krock fadavi, also collect some nice mods. Refresh this page if you can't find anything nice: http://krock-works.16mb.com​/MTstuff/modSearch.php?st=2
17:15 fadavi Krock: thank you so much. :)
17:16 Krock !next
17:16 MinetestBot Another satisfied customer. Next!
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17:27 cx384 !mod node_texture_modifier
17:27 MinetestBot cx384: Node Texture Modifier [node_texture_modifier] by cx384 - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=15528
17:27 DS-minetest btw why doesn't tell minetest the missing depencies in chat anymore on first time, you join a singleplayer world since you started minetest?
17:27 IhrFussel Is there a root check in Minetest Android?
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17:28 IhrFussel I'm pretty sure rooted devices aren't blocked so the player who assumes this is incorrect
17:30 DS-minetest oops, todo in mesecons_luacontroller: move the execute button to right
17:30 fadavi is there any Level in minetest, like minecraft? the character gets hungry?!
17:31 ThomasMonroe there are mods that add that
17:32 fadavi ThomasMonroe: whats the best mods to do such? and whats the best mods for adding monsters, zombies, spiders, etc.?
17:32 ThomasMonroe hmm
17:33 ThomasMonroe look up on Krock's website for mod searching
17:33 ThomasMonroe i cant remember what it was
17:34 fadavi ThomasMonroe: ok, thanks
17:35 ThomasMonroe yw
17:35 DS-minetest heh, the mesecons luacontroller error messages can be a bit strange
17:35 DS-minetest (load):3: Code timed out!
17:36 DS-minetest /usr/share/minetest/builtin/​common/misc_helpers.lua:123: Code timed out!
17:36 DS-minetest and /usr/share/minetest/builtin/init.lua:16: Code timed out!
17:36 ThomasMonroe like that helps any
17:37 DS-minetest i wonder why this happens just because of another amount of code
17:37 Krock too many loops? ^
17:38 DS-minetest yes
17:38 DS-minetest but i mean why there are different error messages
17:38 DS-minetest now one from init.lua of mesecons_luacontroller
17:39 fadavi Krock: tell me some awesome mods! i wanna have Level bar, monsters, zombies, spiders, etc. also i wanna character to be hungry!
17:39 DS-minetest looks like you aren't interested in technical mods, fadavi
17:40 Krock fadavi, if so: hunger, stamina, moon realm, nether
17:40 Krock asteroids, mt meru
17:40 fadavi DS-minetest: in past, i was minecraft player and i like survival mode. :D
17:41 fadavi Krock: thanks again & again & ...!
17:41 DS-minetest nyancat heaven
17:41 Krock plantlife + moretrees + moreblocks if you want to wait longer for joining a fancy game
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17:41 Krock DS-minetest, I wonder if that one still looks good now that NC's are aliased away
17:41 Krock o/ rubenwardy
17:42 DS-minetest Krock: it depends on nyancat mod and ncs aren't aliased
17:43 Krock lol, they're just going to be marked as unknown nodes? how horrible
17:43 Krock nyancat wasn't a seperate mod for a long time, thus I'm not sure if it actually depends on nyan cats
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17:44 DS-minetest Krock: it does, at least hybriddog's version
17:45 Krock ah, good.
17:46 fadavi Krock, DS-minetest: what about enemies? like zombies, ghosts, spiders, etc.? can i have them?
17:46 Krock just smash the keyword "mob" into that search bar
17:46 Krock nssm will look promising to you
17:46 DS-minetest eh
17:47 DS-minetest nssm lags extremely, but Krock is right
17:47 DS-minetest you could play mc, so…
17:47 Krock mc as in the mineclone subgame
17:47 DS-minetest hmm, i can't reproduce that whitening bug with armor and lava in singleplayer
17:48 Krock but I must say that I'm only using MTG, minimal and my own minimalist subgame :3
17:48 Krock with basic mods, usually playing on servers
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17:48 * DS-minetest mostly plays minetest_game
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17:51 DS-minetest realtest is a nice subgame imo
17:51 fadavi it seems VanessaE is one of pro mod devs.
17:51 * rubenwardy plays mtg+mobs_redo+mesecons+skybox+ts_furniture+awards
17:52 VanessaE I was.
17:52 VanessaE I don't do much modding anymore though
17:53 fadavi VanessaE: thanks for developing such good mods :)
17:53 VanessaE you're quite welcome
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17:57 Krock VanessaE, but I do some modding ;) https://github.com/minetest-tec​hnic/unified_inventory/pull/99
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18:10 DS-minetest ops
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18:17 ThomasMonroe hi octacian__
18:17 ThomasMonroe nvmd
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18:36 DS-minetest yey, i managed to make the maidroid place
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18:44 MinetestBot [git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: read_schematic_replacements: ensure fields are strings (#5726) c07c642 https://git.io/v9KLv (2017-05-08T18:43:03Z)
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18:58 Zeitkind Q: can I create a new server on Linux within a terminal session or x2go-remote? The game itself won't start on x2go/xfce4
19:00 Zeitkind nevermind.. found Debian server in Wiki..
19:00 rubenwardy minetest --server   or   minetestserver  creates a server without a GUI
19:00 Zeitkind yeah, just read it ^^
19:00 rubenwardy http://wiki.minetest.net/Help:Setting_up_a_server
19:03 Zeitkind my son asked me for a virtual server and I have absolutely no idea about minetest whatsoever.. ^^
19:06 Zeitkind are 4gb RAM and 2 virtual cores OK for a normal public server?
19:13 rubenwardy yeah
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19:32 fadavi which mapgen is the best? whats seed?
19:34 calculon seed is for the random number generator
19:34 calculon give the same seed twice and you'll get the same map
19:35 fadavi calculon: what about mapgen?
19:36 calculon i don't know, i only tried v7 which is pretty good
19:36 fadavi calculon: thanks
19:40 rubenwardy v7 or valleys
19:41 fadavi rubenwardy: thanks. im new to minetest. suggest me some mods, i like survival game.
19:44 calculon i like mobs_redo with mobs_animal/more_animals and monster
19:44 calculon but i find it a bit too easy
19:45 calculon mobs_water will add sharks and crocodiles too :)
19:46 calculon you can also try esmobs
19:51 fadavi calculon: thanks
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