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00:07 GreenDimond Ayyyy it worked :D http://pasteboard.co/4nq93oSbA.png
00:07 GreenDimond Really crappy image, but still :D
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04:24 kaeza Greetings
04:25 benrob0329 hi kaeza
04:25 kaeza hello benrob0329
04:26 fireglow hi kaeza
04:27 benrob0329 kaeza: how's life?
04:27 kaeza benrob0329, crap, but bearable
04:28 kaeza hi fireglow
04:28 kaeza just got home. back to routine I guess :/
04:29 benrob0329 im still out of town, going back to my routine is going to be interesting...
04:33 benrob0329 ill have to start making videos again..
04:33 benrob0329 although i have some ideas for a few
04:44 OldCoder benrob0329
04:46 benrob0329 OldCoder: hm?
04:48 OldCoder benrob0329, it was a greeting
04:48 benrob0329 Ah, hello
04:50 OldCoder
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05:40 rdococ hi
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06:10 kaeza MinetestBot!
06:10 MinetestBot kaeza!
06:10 fireglow kaeza!
06:11 kaeza fireglow!
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06:30 rdococ rdococ!
06:30 rdococ rdococ!
06:31 rdococ MinetestBot!
06:31 MinetestBot rdococ!
06:31 rdococ MinetestBot!
06:31 MinetestBot rdococ!
06:34 fireglow omg
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06:41 rdococ fireglow!
06:43 fireglow rdococ!
06:46 rdococ fireglow!
06:46 fireglow Yes, dear?
06:49 rdococ <Yes, dear> fireglow?
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06:52 rdococ CWz!
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07:18 WinkingBabby What's up my dudes
07:19 fireglow what's up my Winking Babby
07:19 WinkingBabby Eyy
07:20 WinkingBabby Nothing much
07:20 WinkingBabby You?
07:20 fireglow very not much
07:20 fireglow just watching some youtube, and placing some pixels
07:21 WinkingBabby Nice nice
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07:26 MinetestBot [git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: Partial damage cheat fix: node damages server side (#4981) a9aad4d https://git.io/vS7r6 (2017-04-15T07:25:43Z)
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07:45 cx384 hey MinetestBot
07:45 MinetestBot sup cx384!
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08:21 Nyarg hi folks ) have somebody links to real plain text lua libraries ? I search and found everywhere only lua binded code libs.
08:22 Nyarg for example I want simple bmp manipulator in lua text view
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08:28 Krock reading bmp only: https://www.gamedev.net/topic/572784-lua-​read-bitmap/?view=findpost&amp;p=4662735
08:28 Krock heavy depending library: https://github.com/luapowe​r/bmp/blob/master/bmp.lua
08:29 Krock beware of Public Domain
08:30 Krock ^ Nyarg
08:38 Krock looking through the GitHub gists sometimes also helps
08:44 rdococ hi
08:44 riff-IRC hey
08:44 riff-IRC how are you?
08:45 rdococ what mods do people want to see come to life?
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08:46 rdococ Tux[Qyou], what mod do you want to see come to life?
08:46 rdococ as in, happen
08:46 rdococ as in, be made
08:46 Tux[Qyou] rdococ: lovecraftian rpg mod
08:47 Tux[Qyou] with complex npc interactions
08:48 rdococ riff-IRC, Krock, what mod ideas do you want to see be made?
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08:49 rdococ Tux[Qyou], depends what "lovecraftian" means
08:50 Tux[Qyou] rdococ: eldritch horror setting
08:50 Krock self-built vehicles using motor, steering and fuel nodes
08:50 rdococ I could do an rpg mod with complex npc interactions
08:50 rdococ maybe not a horror one tho
08:51 riff-IRC maybe interactive computers(you can do more then on/off)?
08:51 rdococ rpg mod it is then
08:51 rdococ :P
08:51 rdococ hm
08:51 rdococ is there a player mesh anyone has? or can I take it straight from the default/core?
09:03 rdococ I'm working on a simple API for NPCs rn.
09:10 Krock character.(b3d/x) is very common in most of the subgames
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09:16 Nyarg @Krock thank you, but my question is more complex. I mean something like http://lua-users.org/wiki/LibrariesAndBindings but with all possible in *.lua alhoritms like your link )
09:18 rdococ hm
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09:30 rdococ I'm adding falling in love and cheating mechanics :P
09:31 DS-minetest hi MinetestBot
09:31 MinetestBot Hey DS-minetest
09:31 rdococ hello MinetestBot
09:31 MinetestBot Hey rdococ
09:31 DS-minetest rdococ: what do you mean?
09:33 rdococ DS-minetest: NPCs will be able to 1) fall in love and 2) cheat. NPCs will spread information that would be advantageous for them to spread, and this could end in things such as breakups.
09:33 DS-minetest lol
09:34 DS-minetest will they love players or other NPCs?
09:34 rdococ Other NPCs.
09:34 rdococ They may see the player as an anomaly (especially if he's flying around).
09:34 DS-minetest heh
09:35 rdococ At the moment, I'm implementing the crush mechanic, where an NPC may have a crush.
09:36 rdococ If, say, NPC A had a crush on B, and B was in love with C - now imagine A found out that C was having an affair; A would want to tell B that, not only to break B and C up but because it's a moral thing to do.
09:37 rdococ Additionally, NPCs with low loyalty will probably have the ability to lie.
09:37 DS-minetest cool
09:38 DS-minetest will you use speech dispatcher to make them speak?
09:40 rdococ possibly.
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11:18 DS-minetest hi tre
11:18 tre hi DS
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12:48 MinetestBot [git] SmallJoker -> minetest/minetest: Minimap: Do a double-typecast to fix compiling with MSVC 0f955bf https://git.io/vS7Sl (2017-04-15T12:30:27Z)
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13:07 DS-minetest !c (4*8)+(4*7)
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13:15 rdococ !c 3
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13:20 DS-minetest !c math.pi
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13:28 IhrFussel I connected to my server from my old PC and many textures are missing from the inventory compared to my phone ... is it likely the OpenGL version (1.5) ?
13:32 Krock IhrFussel, does your phone use a texture pack?
13:33 Krock I didn't have such problems when playing with OpenGL 1.4 a few years ago
13:34 IhrFussel Krock, no my PC and phone use the server TP which is Summerfields (32x) ... my phone has OpenGL ES 2.0 I think ... phone client version is 0.4.15 stable, PC is 0.4.15-dev newly compiled
13:36 IhrFussel Oh and the server version is 0.4.15-dev (Feb 18)
13:38 IhrFussel default:leaves is invisible, lucky block nodes are...but only in the inventory
13:39 IhrFussel mesecons ghoststone and removestone ... so it's not a mod problem
13:41 Krock shaders & filters disabled?
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13:42 IhrFussel Krock, wait some nodes REQUIRE those settings?
13:43 Krock no, actually asked if you could try with disabling all fancy stuff
13:43 Krock (if not disabled already)
13:43 IhrFussel Oh ok...everything is disabled or else my PC would crash at the loading screen haha
13:43 IhrFussel It's set to simple leaves
13:45 Krock texture_min_size = 1 ?
13:45 IhrFussel Umm..maybe the drawtype code has been changed recently and that's why my client doesn't recognize it anymore? It seems to be with every leave type ... one sec I'll check
13:47 IhrFussel it's at 32
13:48 IhrFussel Should I set it to 1?
13:48 Krock no, that doesn't change much since you're using a 32px texture pack
13:48 IhrFussel Krock, wait do you mean I need to set it in the client or server settings?
13:49 Krock that's a client thing
13:49 IhrFussel Ok I'll try 16 since some textures don't support my TP and are likely 16x16
13:49 Krock is this a new bug or can you reproduce it on stable 0.4.15?
13:53 IhrFussel I see leaves in 0.4.15 Android...I have no access to 0.4.15 stable on PC
13:56 GNU[BDC] hi
13:57 GNU[BDC] can i disable bush stem?
13:58 Out`Of`Control its part of default game, not sure why it exist
13:58 Out`Of`Control minetest_game
13:58 IhrFussel Krock, It has to be about the node definition...it really affects ALL leaves and some other nodes like building_blocks:grate lucky_block:lucky_block building_blocks:woodglass
13:59 Krock strage
13:59 IhrFussel I'll see if default leaves are missing too in singleplayer
14:00 Krock perhaps it can't handle the opacity?
14:01 IhrFussel Krock, leaves show up in singleplayer... so my server version is just deprecated I guess? o.o
14:01 Krock how did you get to that idea?
14:02 IhrFussel I don't know ... cause the same node is visible in SP but not on my server
14:02 Krock the server only provides the media in that sense
14:03 IhrFussel But the server provides the node definition too...maybe something in the recent commits changed how the client handles node X
14:03 Krock but since both use the same texture pack this problem is a mystery
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14:03 Krock but you just tested the singleplayer mode on your client...
14:04 IhrFussel Yes but my client is not my server
14:04 Krock sure. perhaps there's a mod that changes the drawtype of all leaves on the server?
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14:05 IhrFussel I'll ask my players if they see these nodes in their inventory
14:14 IhrFussel Nope they don't have that problem they see all leaves just fine
14:16 IhrFussel But since they are not very tech savvy I'm assuming they use 0.4.15 stable
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15:03 Out`Of`Control IhrFussel:  did you try cleaning mt cach?
15:03 Out`Of`Control on client side
15:05 IhrFussel Out`Of`Control, where do I find the cache folder in 0.4.15-dev? Ubuntu
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15:07 Out`Of`Control home/user/.minetest/... ?
15:07 kaeza Greetings
15:07 Out`Of`Control hello kaeza
15:07 VanessaE cache is in ~/.cache/minetest now.
15:08 VanessaE and I doubt clearing it will fix his problem
15:09 IhrFussel Ok I found it thanks...I'll give it a try
15:10 Out`Of`Control VanessaE: once my textures messed up, cleaning cache fixed. But it was 0.4.10
15:10 VanessaE then you've got filesystem problems
15:10 VanessaE because textures are cached by their hash value
15:11 Out`Of`Control you are right, ssd works fine still
15:12 IhrFussel Nope, still the same I see no leaves in my inventory and several other nodes have no image as well
15:13 Krock how about preloading the textures or mesh cache?
15:14 IhrFussel So I'm guessing it's a hardware problem...maybe some nodes require something that my GPU doesn't provide
15:14 Out`Of`Control what if you use custom texturepack? client side
15:18 IhrFussel Out`Of`Control, if others aren't having this problem with the exact same TP (since it's the default server one) I doubt the tp is the problem
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15:30 Fixer IhrFussel: what is your gpu?
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15:34 Out`Of`Control IhrFussel:  but it works fine in single player???
15:36 IhrFussel Out`Of`Control, I see the leaves images in singleplayer but it doesn't use the same tp as my server
15:37 IhrFussel I'm trying to remember the command to check the hardware
15:41 IhrFussel Ah got it NVIDIA Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] (rev a1) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
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15:48 ThomasMonroe whats the command Fussel?
15:49 Out`Of`Control lspci ?
15:50 IhrFussel Out`Of`Control, correct
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16:07 kaeza anybody around knowledgeable about android rooting process willing to help un-fuckup a device? :)
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16:12 kaeza actually, the device boots properly, it's just that it doesn't recognize the SIM card :/
16:12 kaeza and for some reason the pull-down notification bar is missing
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16:20 MinetestBot meldrian: Apr-10 16:26 UTC <DS-minetest> Lowe fragt, ob du oft hier bist.
16:22 meldrian Lowe, DS-minetest , weniger in letzter Zeit :)
16:28 GNU[BDC] kaeza:  root it flash custom rom
16:28 DS-minetest heh
16:30 Krock kaeza, similar problem here. internal storage isn't detected correctly, thus camera broken
16:31 kaeza well, SIM card != MicroSD card
16:32 kaeza GNU[BDC], any recommended ROMs? it's a Galaxy J1 (SM-J100M), FWIW
16:33 GNU[BDC] cyanogenmod
16:34 GNU[BDC] kaeza:  you could try flash stock rom to fix sim card
16:35 Fixer kaeza: wait, sim card or microsd card?
16:35 benrob0329 LineageOS is the continuation of cyannod
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16:46 Krock kaeza, only found this one: https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/dev​elopment/rom-gennxt-prerooted-stock-t3126368
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17:15 kaeza Fixer, SIM card
17:19 kaeza >For Backup u can download stock rom from HERE
17:19 kaeza >u can
17:19 kaeza >u
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17:22 Fixer kaeza: wat u sei?
17:22 Fixer kaeza: try googling on sim issue
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18:32 Elon_Satoshi Hallo
18:32 Elon_Satoshi You guys ever heard of Discord?
18:32 DS-minetest yes
18:32 DS-minetest Elon_Satoshi: why u ask?
18:33 Elon_Satoshi Eh. I've got my own minetest discord 'server'.
18:33 Elon_Satoshi I put the link on reddit, so I've got a few participants
18:33 Elon_Satoshi You wanna join?
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18:37 Krock what's discord?
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18:38 DS-minetest Krock: another chat
18:38 DS-minetest but nearly no one will want to join
18:38 Krock (yes I know what it is, just looking if there's explain it or just a link thrown)
18:38 DS-minetest there's only a 64 client for linux
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18:39 Krock Well yeah, voice support. Cool and fine but IRC already offers the most of it. Chatting.
18:40 DS-minetest and for voice there's mumble
18:40 Elon_Satoshi Fine I'll give you the link: https://discord.gg/AKHJz
18:41 Krock rocket.chat, tox and matrix don't make this mess better
18:41 Elon_Satoshi I like tox. But what's matrix?
18:41 Krock it's the same as tox but different
18:42 Krock actually almost identical regarding the functionality
18:43 Fixer it is a big mess
18:44 Elon_Satoshi Why can't I find it in the arch repositories?
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18:46 swift110 hey all
18:46 Elon_Satoshi Hi
18:46 Elon_Satoshi swift110: Isn't srbaker supposed to say hi, as he is the one who just joined?
18:47 Elon_Satoshi Krock: Did you want to join my discord?
18:47 Krock false
18:47 Elon_Satoshi <Krock> (yes I know what it is, just looking if there's explain it or just a link thrown)
18:47 Elon_Satoshi Huh
18:48 Krock <Elon_Satoshi>You guys ever heard of Discord?
18:48 Krock I wondered if you would explain it
18:48 Krock o/ Jordach
18:48 Elon_Satoshi Well, it's almost like Reddit but in real time and with voice chat
18:48 Jordach shooo
18:48 Krock yes, I know :)
18:49 Jordach >plebbit
18:49 Elon_Satoshi Hi Jordach
18:49 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/2JYDSF0.jpg
18:50 Elon_Satoshi Jordach: You afraid I'll steal everybody out of your chatroom? *.*
18:50 Fixer Jordach: herp
18:50 * Elon_Satoshi looks at http://i.imgur.com/2JYDSF0.jpg
18:50 Elon_Satoshi Lmao
18:51 Elon_Satoshi Nah reddit is educational :p
18:51 Krock > cancerous
18:51 Jordach >educational
18:51 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/QUM1u62.png
18:52 Fixer depends on subreddit
18:52 Fixer some parts are nice, some are not, some are meh
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18:53 Fixer have not heared about monkey face, googling
18:55 Fixer makes no sence
18:55 Fixer Jordach: http://new1.fjcdn.com/pictures/Le+​monkey+face+lol_6de181_3895419.jpg
18:55 Fixer cococoocombo
18:55 Jordach holy shit that's a trash meme
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18:55 Fixer Jordach: yep
18:56 Jordach should go with the MT forums into the endless seas of /dev/null/
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19:03 Elon_Satoshi guys I just did cat /dev/urandom it was hillarious
19:06 Mator_ Discord is good
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19:09 Fixer yet another chat/whatever thing
19:10 Nyarg is it possible to set texture speed animation ?
19:11 Mator_ is there a command to force update dirt_with_snow / dirt_with_grass which has blocks on top of it?
19:12 Mator_ also, is there a command to disable clouds?
19:16 Mator_ I know there are conf values
19:16 Mator_ wish there were commands tho
19:22 DS-minetest Mator_: use the set command to edit settings ingame
19:22 Mator_ thanks DS
19:23 DS-minetest np
19:23 DS-minetest !next
19:23 MinetestBot Another satisfied customer. Next!
19:28 asie !previous
19:28 Nyarg type = "vertical_frames" seems like have constant play speed animation
19:29 Nyarg is it right ?
19:30 Calinou Nyarg: yes, animation playback speed can't be changed or made per-frame
19:32 Mator_ DS-minetest waht about my other question?
19:39 DS-minetest Mator_: what do u mean with force update?
19:40 DS-minetest bye everyone!
19:41 Mator_ derp
19:41 Mator_ I mean
19:41 Mator_ if you place a block above dirt_with_snow or dirt_with_grass, eventually it turns into just dirt
19:41 Mator_ I was hoping there was a way to force that update to happen
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19:52 calculon Mator_, i don't think there's a command for that, but you can add your own abm
19:52 calculon but not sure it would be very usefull, as it will happen sooner or later anyway
19:55 swift110 hey Mator_
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20:01 Mator_ calculon it's useful to me, so I may do tha
20:01 Mator_ t
20:02 calculon the problem is that it will be very expensive i guess
20:04 Mator_ calculon what's happening is I'm generating large fractal objects, and if I use dirt_with_grass or dirt_with_snow I have thousands of these situations
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20:05 Mator_ o/ paramat
20:05 Mator_ calculon e.g. http://puu.sh/vlkvq.png
20:06 paramat wow
20:06 calculon wow, impressive :)
20:06 paramat erm, thinking
20:07 calculon maybe you should fix that at gen time then, and not use an abm
20:07 paramat https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/b​lob/master/mods/default/functions.lua#L436
20:07 paramat best place custom mod nodes that don't trigger the ABM
20:08 Mator_ calculon- sure, it just makes the gen code a bit odd because technically the gen should be able to occur with any input block.  so I'll need to do some if statement to check if the block we're generating with is dirt_with_snow or dirt_with_grass
20:09 paramat i see
20:09 Mator_ not too bad, just a little funky
20:10 Mator_ I think it can be done fairly efficiently in a nested for loop
20:10 Mator_ where we iterate down y, and set a boolean for "last_block_is_solid"
20:10 paramat a second pass in your mod that changes any node with a node above?
20:10 Mator_ yuh
20:14 paramat the ABM isn't used to that many surface nodes, so changing them in your mod will greatly reduce ABM load
20:14 Mator_ yuh
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20:16 Mator_ o/
20:16 ThomasMonroe hi Mator_
20:16 paramat ones to process: dirt with: grass, dry grass, snow, rainforest litter
20:17 Mator_ is air 0 in the vm:get_data array?
20:17 paramat not sure, might be fire
20:18 Mator_ I'm looking for an easy way to test if a block is air in the data array
20:18 Mator_ I guess
20:18 Mator_ I can just get air into a local var
20:18 paramat when i make mistakes in vm i usually get raging fires :]
20:18 Mator_ and compare against that
20:18 Mator_ hah
20:18 paramat just get the content id for "air"?
20:18 Mator_ yuh
20:18 Mator_ then compare against that
20:22 paramat minetest.setting_set(name, value) for clouds https://github.com/minetest/minetes​t/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L2176 but not sure how well that works
20:22 Mator_ +1
20:22 Mator_ nice
20:24 Mator_ huh, this is a weird bug
20:28 Mator_ nevermind, just a variable scope derp
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20:37 Mator_ paramat it looks like there's something up here
20:37 Mator_ 126 and 127 both seem to be air?
20:38 Mator_ 127 is what I get when I do minetest.get_content_id("default:air")
20:38 Mator_ 126 is what's in the data array for spots that are actually air
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20:41 Mator_ whatevs, it's working now :D
20:43 paramat hm
20:43 paramat go by get_content
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20:48 Elon_Satoshi !next
20:48 MinetestBot Another satisfied customer. Next!
20:48 Elon_Satoshi !previous
20:48 Mator_ ?_?
20:48 Elon_Satoshi !potato
20:48 Elon_Satoshi !help
20:48 MinetestBot https://github.com/sfan5/minetestb​ot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md
20:48 Elon_Satoshi !cat launchcodes.txt
20:48 MinetestBot http://i.imgur.com/xRPBWSw.jpg
20:48 Elon_Satoshi !cat
20:48 MinetestBot http://i.imgur.com/NKWGj9s.jpg
20:49 Elon_Satoshi !cat meow
20:49 MinetestBot http://i.imgur.com/NIwzCXd.jpg
20:50 Elon_Satoshi !dog
20:51 Elon_Satoshi I DEMAND A !DOG
20:52 Jordach no
20:53 Elon_Satoshi was kicked by Jordach: quit spamming and bothering the bot, they have feelings too
20:53 Krock -> http://bash.org/?8102
20:55 Jordach AY
20:57 kaeza kek
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21:00 Mator_ /set enable_clouds false doesn't appear to disable clouds
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21:03 paramat might need re-entering world?
21:03 paramat ah that's a chat command
21:04 paramat and some settings need a program restart to take effect
21:05 paramat however i have tried using code to disable clouds in a mod before and there were issues (can't remember exactly). we have a clouds API PR coming though
21:06 Jordach clouds API
21:06 Jordach wat
21:08 Mator_ Jordach you know
21:08 Mator_ put it on the butt
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21:15 Elon_Satoshi Jordach: You kicked me after I had gone back to idling ._.
21:16 Elon_Satoshi Also it's not good to discriminate cats over dogs ;-; #k9livesmatter
21:21 MinetestBot [git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: Implement delayed server shutdown with cancelation (#4664) 34d32ce https://git.io/vS5qZ (2017-04-15T21:19:18Z)
21:21 OldCoder clouds disable does not work in general
21:22 OldCoder It is not about reenter
21:29 Jordach Elon_Satoshi, i like dogs too
21:32 Elon_Satoshi Jordach: Do you have any?
21:32 Elon_Satoshi Oh and does the bot forgive me? ;-;
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22:33 PureTryOut[m] Ooh please stop promoting Discord...
22:33 PureTryOut[m] Proprietary, centralized, chat services shouldn't be promoted Elon_Satoshi
22:34 VanessaE says the guy using matrix ;)
22:34 PureTryOut[m] Use Matrix via Riot instead if you like glossy interfaces like that
22:34 PureTryOut[m] Matrix isn't proprietary or centralized
22:35 VanessaE actually, it demonstrated a while back just how centralized it is.  the irc gateway went down a couple of times, dropping about a dozen users at once from this channel
22:35 PureTryOut[m] Or use IRC, or XMPP, or whatever. Just don't promote proprietary chat services
22:35 PureTryOut[m] VanessaE: Matrix side worked fine during all of that
22:35 Elon_Satoshi A girl told me she'd have sex with me if I promoted a decentralized messenger program. Since I wanted to be secure, I declined. Just as secure as Tox, the decentralized encrypted Skype alternative.
22:35 VanessaE PureTryOut[m]: perhaps but what good is it if your gateway is broken?
22:36 PureTryOut[m] Meh. It's not like the whole thing breaks
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22:37 VanessaE some day I expect it will :)
22:38 VanessaE "The more the overthink the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the drain."  :)
22:38 PureTryOut[m] Lol gl with expecting
22:38 Elon_Satoshi PureTryOut[m]: I used to be hardcore about open source software but hey, you only live once. It'd be nice if there was a good discord alternative. Like maybe somebody should add group chat to tox
22:39 PureTryOut[m] Dude, Matrix is that alternative to Discord
22:39 PureTryOut[m] Also, Tox already had group chat?
22:39 PureTryOut[m] Just not persistent
22:39 Elon_Satoshi Hmm
22:40 Elon_Satoshi PureTryOut[m]: What's your tox bruh?
22:40 PureTryOut[m] Eeuh idk got it somewhere deep in my pc
22:40 PureTryOut[m] Don't use it anymore though
22:40 PureTryOut[m] *I don't
22:41 Elon_Satoshi I've been talking to somebody I met on diaspora using tox
22:41 Jordach Discord doesn't act like it has the moral high ground when it talks about privacy
22:41 Jordach ever fucking OSS project like that says we're private
22:42 Elon_Satoshi Also if you add your name to toxme.io you may get a friend request from some stranger wanting to sext or something
22:42 Jordach and when they don't get professional support or a usable glossy interface, they go for the better commercial offering
22:42 Elon_Satoshi Heh lol
22:42 PureTryOut[m] Elon_Satoshi: lol is Tox the new Tinder now?
22:43 Elon_Satoshi Nope, can't really see somebody's profile unless they accept your friend request
22:43 Elon_Satoshi Here's my tox id though: 901B8349C8770E413C63097733E7F82D152FF7​E33D2AF9A6A80AEA0C49088D6E5656C2721FBE
22:44 PureTryOut[m] Well I don't use Tox anymore, and I'm on my phone right now, but thanks :p
22:44 Elon_Satoshi PureTryOut[m]: Antox
22:45 Elon_Satoshi PureTryOut[m]: You were the one who mentioned Tox, so I'm not gonna beg you to use it lol
22:45 PureTryOut[m] I find Tox hard to use because of not having multi-device support
22:46 Elon_Satoshi Well, if you have a good password I suppose you could upload your tox profile to google drive
22:46 Elon_Satoshi Or use toxme.io
22:47 PureTryOut[m] Yeah that's a shitty solution imo. And lol Google Drive
22:47 Elon_Satoshi Dropbox?
22:47 fireglow lol
22:47 fireglow Condi Rice's Dropbox
22:47 PureTryOut[m] Lol
22:47 Elon_Satoshi When I used qtox to register me to toxme.io it said remember your password and I was worried it had given away my local-only password. But it randomly generates a password lol
22:48 PureTryOut[m] NextCloud or Syncthing obviously
22:48 PureTryOut[m] Anyways my phone is dying, bye
22:48 Elon_Satoshi You could just keep it on a usb drive
22:48 Elon_Satoshi buhbye
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23:05 OldCoder NextCloud is good
23:08 thePalindrome Hasn't changed from owncloud yet :P
23:08 thePalindrome I speak from experience, Syncthing sucks as a daemon
23:08 thePalindrome It chmods the directory 700, because a daemon is "the wrong way to use it" </rant>
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