Time Nick Message 05:43 MinetestBot 02[git] 04red-001 -> 03minetest/minetest: [CSM] Add local node meta reference. (#5508) 13000ec26 https://git.io/vSR3E (152017-04-04T05:41:37Z) 05:48 MinetestBot 02[git] 04nerzhul -> 03minetest/minetest: Client handlers: Remove useless stringstream usage in two handlers (#… 135631996 https://git.io/vSR3K (152017-04-04T05:47:04Z) 05:53 MinetestBot 02[git] 04paramat -> 03minetest/minetest: MapgenBasic: Add lava source as commonly used content (#5512) 13b8a4c95 https://git.io/vSR35 (152017-04-04T05:51:58Z) 06:30 Yst The wiki says "flowers:waterlily" is renewable, but I can't find any information on how to actually get more waterlilies. Does anyone here know how? 06:30 Yst I can't even see anything in the code that explains how; I must be looking in the wrong place. 07:13 paramat ~tell Yst waterlily is not renewable 07:13 ShadowBot paramat: O.K. 07:18 Yst Thanks paramat! I guess the wiki is wrong then. I should create an account and fix that. 07:20 Yst Never mind. There doesn't seem to be an option to register. I think it's one of those wikis only a select few are allowed to edit. 07:20 kaeza Yst, no, the registration process is kind of broken 07:21 kaeza Yst, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=10473 07:21 kaeza Calinou, ^ 07:25 swift110 hey 07:35 Yst I swear, this bad Internet connection is really getting on my nerves. 07:39 kaeza Yst, I amended the waterlily data for now 07:40 kaeza :I 07:41 JamesTait Good morning all! Happy Tuesday, and happy Cordon Bleu Day! 😃 07:42 swift110 hdy kaeza 07:42 kaeza heyo swift110 07:42 kaeza mornings JamesTait 07:42 swift110 how are you kaeza 07:42 JamesTait 👋 Morning, kaeza! 07:43 kaeza good I guess :) 07:43 kaeza how about you swift110? 07:50 Out`Of`Control Hi 07:50 Out`Of`Control is there simple way to disable node in default game? 07:54 kaeza Out`Of`Control, unregister_item ? 07:56 kaeza you would create a mod that depends on the mod from the game, and unregister it 07:56 Out`Of`Control kaeza: uhm 07:56 Out`Of`Control ah 07:57 kaeza be aware that there's some stuff that may be used internally 07:57 kaeza or by mapgen 08:00 Out`Of`Control so with unregister_item i can remove default:coral_brow 08:00 swift110 im good 08:03 Out`Of`Control kaeza: where i can read about unregister_item 08:03 kaeza Out`Of`Control, lua_api.txt is always the definitive reference 08:03 Out`Of`Control thanks 08:05 Yst Thanks, kaeza! 08:06 kaeza you're uite welcome :) 08:06 kaeza both :P 08:06 kaeza +q 11:59 ThomasMonroe should there be an additon to mesecons controllers 12:00 ThomasMonroe bcs i fnd it annoying to program all of the if then else end, or if then elif on the lua controllers 12:00 ThomasMonroe cant we make a sequential controller, one that has a list of instructions and carries them out accordingly? 12:10 ThomasMonroe like this on(a), on(b), off(a) 12:10 ThomasMonroe would that be useful? 12:40 DS-minetest hi 12:40 ThomasMonroe hi DS 13:10 ThomasMonroe should there be an additon to mesecons controllers 13:10 ThomasMonroe bcs i fnd it annoying to program all of the if then else end, or if then elif on the lua controllers 13:10 ThomasMonroe cant we make a sequential controller, one that has a list of instructions and carries them out accordingly? 13:10 ThomasMonroe * aheinecke_ (~esus@81-5-193-158.hdsl.highway.telekom.at) has joined 13:10 ThomasMonroe like this on(a), on(b), off(a) 13:10 ThomasMonroe would that be useful? 13:13 DS-minetest you can use pin.a & co. 13:13 DS-minetest also there's a fpga 13:15 ThomasMonroe an FPGA works like that? 13:15 DS-minetest um 13:18 DS-minetest try it its selfexplaining 13:18 ThomasMonroe ok i will 13:25 DS-minetest are there any news about the daily ppa? 13:28 Tre how would you use the FPGA to activate certain gates in sequence 13:30 DS-minetest save in the number values 13:30 Tre wiat ill try something 13:30 DS-minetest eg. 13:30 DS-minetest A and B 0 13:30 DS-minetest 0 and C D 13:31 DS-minetest but there's no interrupt 13:31 Tre right, but lets say i wanted to activate a piston sequence 13:31 Tre how would i do that useing this 13:31 Tre im trying to make a block swapper 13:32 DS-minetest u can still use luacontroller for complex things 13:33 Tre i know, but it would still be much easier to have something that carries out a set of instructions with interups in bewtween each line 13:34 DS-minetest use more than one fpga? 13:34 DS-minetest and delayer 13:34 Tre i want it to be compact enough to fit on a roof of a small house 13:36 DS-minetest i don't think, i can help u via chat 13:36 Tre np, didnt think anyone could, i was just wondering if the idea would be able to take root 13:37 Tre and maybe it will 13:38 Tre i was talking about something like a sequential microcontroller 13:39 DS-minetest microcontrollers r outdated 13:40 Tre nah they can be used for many useful things 13:40 Tre i like using them 13:41 Tre they are simple and easy to understand, not that i dont understand lua 13:41 DS-minetest yeah, but i read something about that i think 13:41 Tre maybe its time to upgrade them 13:57 DS-minetest I found out something interesting about nuclear reactors 13:58 DS-minetest if it's already long on, it takes long till meltdown 13:58 DS-minetest if it's a fresh one, its much faster 13:59 Tre huh? 14:02 DS-minetest because structure_accumulated_badness goes into negative values 14:16 Tre how would a block swapper be made in Minetest? 14:17 DS-minetest im not sure what u mean with block swapper 14:18 DS-minetest in technic is a constructor if you mean this 14:19 Tre http://redstonecircuits.blogspot.com/2013/04/block-swapper.html 14:22 DS-minetest looks interesting and not too difficult to do with luacontroller 14:22 Tre i know, but i am working with an old version of mesecons on this server 14:22 Tre oldeer* 14:23 DS-minetest bff why? 14:23 DS-minetest and soo old is extrem 14:23 DS-minetest luacontroller is already there since ages 14:23 Tre i am waiting for the developer to update the server 14:24 DS-minetest what server is it? 14:24 Tre i know that but the interupts wernt 14:24 Tre and definitly not event.iid 14:26 DS-minetest but its much older than fpga 14:33 Tre true 14:33 DS-minetest shall settingtypes.txt files be in modpack folders? 14:40 Tre someone needs to make a redstone clone 14:41 Tre there anrt enoughe tutorials about mesecons, and it cant do everything that redstone can 14:41 DS-minetest it can 14:41 DS-minetest tell me one thing, it cant 14:42 Blaxono Hey :) 14:42 Blaxono im Moderator of Telsight,s Skywars Server 14:44 Tre block swapper using only torches and repeaters 14:45 DS-minetest lol, mesecons has no repeaters 14:46 Tre excatly my point, mesecons is great, but it has it limits when it comes to translating restone projects into it 14:46 Tre repeaters also double as delayers in redstone 14:48 DS-minetest not exactly 14:48 Tre what do you mean 14:48 DS-minetest repeaters can do somthing else if they point to another node 14:49 DS-minetest but a redstone clone would be nice for Wuzzy's subgame 14:49 Tre right if we have a redstone clone we can take projects directly from minecraft and trasnlate them into minetest 14:50 Tre who is Wuzzy? 14:50 Wuzzy It's me! 14:50 Tre hi Wuzzy 14:50 DS-minetest sry for writing ur name >_< 14:50 Wuzzy It's someone who made WAY too many mods for Minetest 14:50 Tre shoulda looked for you on the user list 14:50 Tre haha 14:52 * DS-minetest has finished the self destruction 14:52 Tre hehe 14:53 DS-minetest of technic nuce reactor 14:53 DS-minetest and pushed 14:54 DS-minetest u cant stop the countdown 14:54 DS-minetest but theres a setting 14:54 nore ^ mesecons had delayers which are more-or-less the repeaters of MC 14:55 twoelk Tre, you could make a forum post that points to some redstone contraption and challenge the mt comunity to rebuild it with mesecons, simplemachines or whatever other mod fits 14:55 DS-minetest but not exactly 14:55 Tre i dont have an account 14:55 DS-minetest make one 14:55 Tre i will 14:57 nore warning: there are people who use mesecons because they are actually crazy (i.e. me) 14:58 nore and that will build gigantic mesecons machines :) 14:58 DS-minetest lol 14:58 DS-minetest http://mesecons.net/ 14:58 * DS-minetest did that too but not only with mesecons. but mostly it doesnt work ); 14:58 DS-minetest because its limited 14:59 DS-minetest http://mesecons.net/uberi/ 14:59 ^7heo So now it's possible to actually beta test your home automation in minecraft. 14:59 ^7heo s/craft/test/ 15:00 ^7heo and synchronize your IRL coffee machine with a button in minetest. 15:00 ^7heo interesting 15:00 DS-minetest this is already possible for long time 15:00 DS-minetest jeija did it already 15:02 DS-minetest but it's dangerous 15:02 DS-minetest https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=5285 15:04 Tre hey nore, how ould you create a block swaper 15:05 nore heh, easy enough :) 15:05 Tre without lua controllers 15:05 DS-minetest https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=5369 15:05 nore I just need some time, since it is taken by other projects as well ^^ 15:06 DS-minetest still ez without luacontroller 15:06 Tre hey nore what do you think about a controller that activates ports in succession according to a set of instrucions 15:07 nore you mean like this? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=83243#p83243 15:18 Tre where is the block swapper 15:21 Tre nore wher's the block swapper 15:24 twoelk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jo_GT6a4M90 15:30 Tre thats not a block swapper 15:34 DS-minetest lol, fast 15:47 twoelk thought rather as a comment to <^7heo: and synchronize your IRL coffee machine with a button in minetest> 15:53 ^7heo DS-minetest: did someone actually hook minetest to an actual coffee machine? 15:53 DS-minetest idk 15:54 DS-minetest i don't think, you would find anything about that 15:54 DS-minetest idk, how this swapper in mc works. Tre 15:55 DS-minetest how should it?! 15:55 Tre idk 15:57 DS-minetest i hate that googeled youtube 15:57 ^7heo wat? 15:58 DS-minetest ooh, that r not only sticky pistons 15:58 DS-minetest google made youtube mah 15:58 DS-minetest meh* 15:59 DS-minetest lol, the swapper is simple 16:02 Tre how do you do it? 16:03 DS-minetest im trying 16:05 Blaxono red-001 thaths is hard spamming... 16:06 DS-minetest not really 16:06 red-001 ? 16:08 Blaxono little 16:10 fireglow !mod caverealms 16:10 MinetestBot fireglow: Underground Realms [caverealms] by HeroOfTheWinds - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=9522 16:11 DS-minetest Tre: idk now if it's possible 16:12 Blaxono !mod caveralms 16:12 MinetestBot Blaxono: Could not find anything. 16:15 twoelk !mod caverealms 16:15 MinetestBot twoelk: Underground Realms [caverealms] by HeroOfTheWinds - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=9522 16:15 Tre ok 16:16 * DS-minetest is using water now 16:19 DS-minetest Tre: i did it 16:19 DS-minetest but it's very slow 16:19 DS-minetest because it uses water turbines :3 16:20 fireglow hi DS-minetest =) 16:20 DS-minetest hi fireglow 16:20 DS-minetest so, normal button is too fast 16:23 Tre ok 16:23 Tre i am creating an account on the foroums can you pst something there? 16:23 DS-minetest im making it faster 16:24 Tre ok 16:27 DS-minetest oh, ive learned something new about mesecon torches 16:28 fireglow what? 16:28 DS-minetest they also go off if theres a signal on top of the node behind 16:29 DS-minetest but now i have to use not gates ); 16:29 Tre huh interesting 16:30 fireglow hm 16:44 DS-minetest shall i show a screenshot? 16:45 fireglow yes please 16:45 DS-minetest ok 16:45 DS-minetest but I will make it better 16:45 DS-minetest after the screenshot 16:46 DS-minetest ok, ill come back soon with the screenshot 16:46 fireglow yay 16:51 DS-minetest http://imgur.com/4467loo 16:57 Tre did you use insulate mesewire inbetween the turbines? 16:59 DS-minetest no 17:00 DS-minetest beyond the cobble is a delayer pointing to the sticky piston 17:03 DS-minetest yey, now it works with a button 17:03 DS-minetest (with the help of a flip flop gate) 17:05 Tre K 17:05 Tre what is it set on? 17:05 Tre the delayer 17:06 DS-minetest 4 17:06 DS-minetest to make it slow 17:06 DS-minetest ly 17:06 Tre K 17:15 Tre ok i have the stuff built but its not working 17:16 DS-minetest that can be 17:16 DS-minetest try disabling some signals until it works 17:17 DS-minetest i think, im building now to small, people wont understand so squashed things 17:18 Tre what do i have to do, how is the water setup 17:19 DS-minetest uh 17:22 DS-minetest http://imgur.com/a/QUSXN 17:23 DS-minetest Tre: I could send you my world zipped over irc. But there's much other stuff. 17:24 DS-minetest 2.4MB 17:30 agaran DS-minetest: what it is supposed to do? 17:30 DS-minetest http://redstonecircuits.blogspot.com/2013/04/block-swapper.html 17:31 DS-minetest ^ for minetest 17:32 agaran but what is goal, I never played MC 17:33 DS-minetest it replaces a node with another one 17:33 DS-minetest just look into chat log 17:33 DS-minetest Tre wanted it me to o 17:33 DS-minetest do* 17:36 ThomasMonroe sry internet quit on me 17:52 Mator_ o/ 17:52 DS-minetest huhu 17:58 Mator_ hoho 17:58 ThomasMonroe hey Mator_ 17:58 Mator_ howdy 18:02 Mator_ does someone know of a good way to make a recursive algorithm point-driven? 18:02 Mator_ I have an algorithm which takes a coordinate and a size, and then recursively divides space and generates a structure 18:03 Mator_ this is inherently incompatible with chunk generation 18:03 twoelk sounds like menger cube 18:04 Mator_ already got menger sponge working with a point-test function 18:04 Mator_ what I'm thinking of right now is more like a dodecahedron fractal, or something similar 18:05 Mator_ octahedron** 18:05 Mator_ dodecs are evil 18:05 DS-minetest what is being done with the mesecons modpack?! 18:06 DS-minetest minetest-mods added sofar to minetest-mods/mesecons 18:06 DS-minetest 3 minutes ago 18:06 DS-minetest minetest-mods added Jeija to minetest-mods/mesecons 18:06 DS-minetest 3 minutes ago 18:06 DS-minetest minetest-mods added whiskers75 to minetest-mods/mesecons 18:06 DS-minetest 3 minutes ago 18:06 DS-minetest minetest-mods added Uberi to minetest-mods/mesecons 18:06 DS-minetest 3 minutes ago 18:06 DS-minetest sofar added Jeija to sofar/minetest-mod-mesecons 18:06 DS-minetest 5 minutes ago 18:06 DS-minetest sofar added numberZero to sofar/minetest-mod-mesecons 18:06 DS-minetest 5 minutes ago 18:06 nore DS-minetest: well, it's being moved to minetest-mods 18:06 DS-minetest sofar added whiskers75 to sofar/minetest-mod-mesecons 18:06 DS-minetest 5 minutes ago 18:06 DS-minetest uups 18:06 DS-minetest sry 18:06 DS-minetest ok 18:06 Mator_ I think I figured my own problem out 18:06 Mator_ by thinking about it 18:07 Mator_ ty rubber ducks 18:07 sofar DS-minetest: mesecons is now at github.com/minetest-mods/mesecons 18:08 DS-minetest yeah, ive seen now the issue. sry for posting this much text >_< 18:11 * twoelk gotta update his mod update scripts :-P 18:12 sfan5 sofar: fyi whiskers75 has been missing from the internet since years, no need to add him 18:13 sofar ok, I can remove him 18:13 sofar I never added him, he was migrated along with everyone else 18:14 sofar sfan5: appreciate you checking, thanks :) 18:14 DS-minetest sofar: that sounds as if you were a people smuggler 18:14 sfan5 i didnt check, it's just a sad fact i'm aware of when seeing that name 18:14 sofar pretty much 18:15 DS-minetest i have to go now. bye! 19:14 Megaf_ !server Megaf 19:14 MinetestBot Megaf_: Megaf Server v4.0 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 0/10, 0/0 | Version: 0.4.14-Megaf / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 7ms 19:14 Megaf_ o/ 19:14 Megaf Jordach, ping 19:15 Megaf Megaf[m], get out of here 19:15 fireglow !server Enclave 19:15 MinetestBot fireglow: Free mining, Master Builders Enclave [EU/DE] | games.firc.de | Clients: 3/15, 1/7 | Version: 0.4.15-dev / minetest | Ping: 11ms 19:17 Jordach Megaf, meow 19:17 * Megaf roars 20:22 Megaf Anyone here by chance using OpenVZ? 20:41 ThomasMonroe sorry not that i know of 20:57 Mator_ Octahedron fractal generation is working 21:12 Mator_ https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=261883#p261883 21:13 Mator_ octahedron point test: https://github.com/matortheeternal/fractal-miner/blob/master/octahedron_flake/init.lua#L68-L87 21:40 kaeza greetings 21:40 twoelk o/ 21:42 Mator_ hai 21:43 Mator_ I heard you like grassy hills. So I put grassy hills on your grassy hills on your grassy hills on your grassy hills on your grassy hills on your grassy hills ... http://imgur.com/YKiYgn0 21:45 kaeza heh 21:45 Mator_ ^_^ 22:19 ThomasMonroe would it be usefull to have pistons recieve from a range of 2 blocks? 22:20 Mator_ it would be useful to have a power element which can power a larger range of blocks 22:20 Mator_ but I wouldn't make a specific block recieve power from a larger range 22:23 ThomasMonroe i meant like if you have pistons stacked ontop of one anther you could fire them both with one wire 22:25 ThomasMonroe the power element would be nice 22:25 Mator_ I feel like firing a piston on a piston is a recipe for bugs 22:25 Mator_ :P 22:26 Mator_ but sure, it could be cool 22:26 Mator_ maybe what you want is to make it so a piston conducts charge 22:26 ThomasMonroe i was thinking of a 2x2 or 2x1 door that is very compact 22:26 Mator_ sure 22:27 ThomasMonroe wel that would work, but you might need two more type of pistons 22:27 ThomasMonroe bcs that might bcm annoying 22:45 kaeza I'd like wireless mesecons myself :P (does that even make sense?) 22:45 ThomasMonroe kind of 22:56 Viper wireless wire? 22:56 Viper wired wifi 23:02 twoelk mesewificon? 23:03 twoelk sounds like vapourware ;-P 23:03 Mator_ ThomasMonroe two more? Wouldn't you just need one? "Conducting piston" ? 23:05 ThomasMonroe bcs if you had say two pistons side by side and you wanted them to fire at different times, you cant bcs one piston would fire off the other 23:05 twoelk an orchestra of mesecons conducted by a piston? 23:05 Mator_ What is "mesecon"? 23:05 kaeza redstone 23:06 Mator_ huh 23:06 Mator_ why the weird name? 23:06 kaeza because it's MESE CONductor I guess? 23:06 twoelk because copyright? 23:07 Mator_ Thomas: The "conducting piston" would only charge whatever is past the piston "plate" when it is extended 23:07 Mator_ What is MESE? 23:07 Mator_ And I totally get why it can't be "redstone" 23:07 twoelk do you play minetest? 23:07 kaeza !wiki Mese 23:07 MinetestBot "The Mese Block (pronounciation: [ˈmɛˌsɛ]) is the rarest 02ore and the third rarest block in Minetest Game and starts appearing very deep underground, at a 02height of Y=-1024 or below." - http://wiki.minetest.net/Mese 23:07 kaeza Mator_, ^ 23:08 kaeza that texture needs an update 23:08 Mator_ just a weird name 23:08 Mator_ twoelk 23:08 Mator_ No, I just found out about Minetest like two days ago 23:08 kaeza >Mese actually means "msn messenger" in Finland and is used as a silly word (it sounds silly) in the ohjelmointiputka programming community. Additionally it is thought that the glasses of the emoticons 8) and 8D are "mese glasses". 23:09 Mator_ And I've been focusing on modding 23:09 Mator_ kaeza: Hm 23:11 kaeza it used to be sort of "diamonds" until actual diamonds were added 23:11 kaeza as in, the strongest metal in the MT world 23:12 kaeza !wiki Nyancat 23:12 MinetestBot "Nyan Cats are humorous blocks which are extremely rare." - http://wiki.minetest.net/Nyancat 23:12 kaeza sadly not anymore :/ 23:12 ThomasMonroe what is nyan cat from anyway? 23:12 kaeza RIP 23:12 fireglow I have nyancat.zip 23:13 Mator_ kaeza Silver, Gold, copper, nickel, iron, platinum, zinc and aluminum have electrical conductivity 23:13 fireglow forever nyancat.zip 23:13 Mator_ replace Mese with one of these metals for #realism points :P 23:13 rubenwardy ThomasMonroe: the internet 23:13 ThomasMonroe ha..ha..ha..ha 23:13 Mator_ http://www.nyan.cat/ 23:13 ThomasMonroe -.- 23:14 Mator_ http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/nyan-cat-pop-tart-cat 23:14 ThomasMonroe so it is an internet meme 23:15 kaeza Mator_, we have gold and copper in default game now. also, iron is added by technic (replaces steel with wrought iron and adds more varieties). silver (and mithril) is added by moreores 23:15 kaeza technic also has zinc and aluminum 23:15 kaeza I don't recall if platinum or nickel exists anywhere :P 23:15 Mator_ kaeza: Let's make those into wires then and remove mese :P 23:16 Mator_ lul, that reminded me of anther meme, "Remove enderman" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtUxgOfN00A 23:16 twoelk Mator_, do visit some technic heavy servers like VanessaE's creative or survival and study those complicated contraptions like those of cheapie or nore and many others 23:17 ThomasMonroe gtg guys cya later tonight 23:17 Mator_ twoelk okey 23:17 cheapie Mator_, twoelk: https://cheapiesystems.com/media/images/screenshot_20170319_012540.png 23:18 cheapie If that's not technic-heavy, I don't know what is :P 23:18 twoelk if there is nothing unique anymore to minetest and it becomes totally realistic - I guess I can just as well walk of the door and enjoy real life :-D 23:19 cheapie twoelk: Well, you don't find depleted uranium buildings IRL, typically: https://cheapiesystems.com/media/images/screenshot_20170324_020528.png 23:19 kaeza wut 23:19 twoelk ah the room I can only survive a tiny while in a hazmat suite? 23:20 cheapie This is more realistic, at least: https://cheapiesystems.com/media/images/screenshot_20170212_134253.png 23:21 * twoelk wonders when VEC gets its central control room like in the film 23:22 cheapie Heck, that server even has the one intersection (like most RL cities) that nobody dares try to drive through: https://cheapiesystems.com/media/images/screenshot_20170404_182203.png 23:23 twoelk hehe - I keep holding up the traffic trying to read all them signs 23:23 * cheapie needs to update his client to fix those upside-down letters 23:24 twoelk where can I see what them cameras record? :-D 23:34 twoelk 'night 23:42 cheapie Anyone care to weigh in on which they like better? https://cheapiesystems.com/media/images/pipeworks-inventory.png 23:42 cheapie As an example use case, say you want a detector tube. That's a white tube with a yellow band.