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00:02 GreenDimond Hmm...
00:02 GreenDimond Anyone else able to help?
00:03 GreenDimond I registered the command but it doesnot like it when I use handle_give_command like giveme uses :P
00:04 GreenDimond I commented that line out, so when the command is run, it will issue it, but nothing will happen because nothing is returned. What do I put on the return?
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01:56 wilkgr I'm confused
01:56 wilkgr Now I've broken the schematic placing completely :(
01:56 wilkgr I cannot get the schematic to place.
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06:29 MinetestBot [git] red-001 -> minetest/minetest: [CSM] Fix errors in and improve the CSM documentation. (#5467) 7c85405 https://git.io/vSmnm (2017-03-28T06:26:54Z)
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08:43 JamesTait Good morning all! Happy Tuesday, and happy Something On A Stick Day! ūüėÉ
08:43 wilkgr Good evening JamesTait
08:43 wilkgr What will you put on your stick?
08:44 JamesTait Rat? ūüėĚ
08:45 PureTryOut[m] hmm, roasted rat on a stick, lovely
08:48 JamesTait I'm cuttin' me own throat!
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09:13 wilkgr lol
09:14 OldCoder Rat is all that
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09:40 wilkgr https://github.com/wilkgr76/‚Äčeggwars/blob/master/init.lua (line 46)
09:40 wilkgr I can't figure out why the schematic will not place.
09:40 wilkgr Can anyone help?
09:41 wilkgr The exact line is:
09:41 wilkgr minetest.place_schematic(schem_l,minetes‚Äčt.get_worldpath().."/schems/island.mts")
09:42 wilkgr stupid keyboard lol
09:42 wilkgr minetest.place_schematic(schem_l,minete‚Äčst.get_modpath().."/schems/island.mts")
09:42 wilkgr (get_modpath() not get_worldpath())
09:43 agaran what if you put fixed patch for testing?
09:43 wilkgr It is able to find the schematic
09:43 wilkgr (I tested by renaming it)
09:44 wilkgr If I rename it to e.g. _island.mts, I get an error, currently I get no error
09:45 wilkgr Now I'm getting an error from get_modpath
09:46 agaran `minetest.get_current_modname()`: returns the currently loading mod's name, when we are loading a mod
09:46 agaran * `minetest.get_modpath(modname)`: returns e.g. `"/home/user/.minetest/usermods/modname"`
09:46 agaran you -need to pass name to it..
09:47 wilkgr I just fixed that
09:47 agaran so minetest.get_modpath(minet‚Äčest.get_current_modname())
09:48 wilkgr I fixed to use minetest.get_modpath("eggwars"), as I am also defining nodes in the same mod
09:49 agaran thats should work unless you rename it and forged to update;)
09:50 wilkgr True
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09:53 wilkgr I gotta go :/
09:53 wilkgr Gn o/
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10:21 kaeza greetings
10:23 riff-IRC :)
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12:33 _4d47 if anyone has a cue, i've build with -DENABLE_GETTEXT=1 because the pre-built on ubuntu did not had the mo files but now the game is still in english, my echo $LANG is 'fr'
12:33 Fixer _4d47: try changing language = in minetest.conf
12:35 kaeza _4d47, any errors from `cmake`?
12:36 _4d47 ok i added the line 'language = fr' to minetest.conf and reinstalled, still english
12:38 _4d47 kaeza: no i dont see errors from cmake
12:38 Fixer _4d47: have you installed gettext related packages before compile?
12:39 Fixer _4d47: here is what you should see more or less https://pastebin.com/raw/UJFXz2qQ
12:39 _4d47 Fixer: i've followed the README and did the apt-get install
12:39 kaeza _4d47, also, when you say "game", do you mean the actual game (i.e. untranslated items), or does the main menu appear in english too?
12:41 _4d47 kaeza: i mean the main menu too
12:41 kaeza ah I see
12:44 kaeza can you try rebuilding from scratch and pasting all compilation logs?
12:45 _4d47 sure
12:51 MinetestBot [git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: Fix a type bug in colorize function 1b299b4 https://git.io/vSmj7 (2017-03-28T12:50:17Z)
12:54 _4d47 kaeza: https://pastebin.com/J81K6XsG
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13:23 kaeza _4d47, uh, what does `minetest --version` report?
13:24 _4d47 Minetest 0.4.15-dev-4b05fea (Linux)
13:24 _4d47 Using Irrlicht 1.8.3
13:24 _4d47 Build info: VER=0.4.15-dev-4b05fea BUILD_TYPE=Release RUN_IN_PLACE=1 USE_GETTEXT=1 USE_SOUND=1 USE_CURL=1 USE_FREETYPE=1 USE_LUAJIT=0 STATIC_SHAREDIR="."
13:25 kaeza >RUN_IN_PLACE=1
13:26 kaeza if running with that, you should definitely not run `make install`
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13:27 kaeza I just made a fresh clone, compiled it, and it works as expected
13:27 kaeza https://gist.github.com/kaeza/7‚Äč92dc1bbc2d9232b0942c8b344025833
13:28 _4d47 i'll try again with a fresh clone
13:31 _4d47 kaeza: if you have implicit RUN_IN_PLACE=1 what is -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX for ?
13:33 kaeza _4d47, if you build with RUN_IN_PLACE=1, the game is self-contained in its directory. installing it may make a mess out of it (look at where it installed things in your paste)
13:33 kaeza also, I don't think RUN_IN_PLACE=1 is implicit; make clean does not clean the CMake cache, so you're probably using stale cache files
13:34 kaeza try `rm CMakeCache.txt`
13:35 kaeza as you see at the bottom of my paste, RUN_IN_PLACE=0 in a fresh build
13:41 _4d47 kaeza: right sorry got confused, just finished fresh clone and rebuilt, minetest --version now shows RUN_IN_PLACE=0, it's still in english
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13:45 kaeza _4d47, no problems. I'm sorry, but not sure what else could be wrong there :/
13:46 kaeza maybe anybody else can help
13:47 _4d47 kaeza: thanks for all the help, probably something weird with this machine
13:47 _4d47 kaeza: i'll just tell the kid it's time to learn english :-)
13:48 kaeza heh :)
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13:48 kaeza you're quite welcome, BTW
13:51 Jordach _4d47, with linux it could be anything, even sytemd
13:51 Jordach Kappa
13:53 kaeza Jordach, do you have a moment to install our lord and savior, Gentoo?
13:53 Jordach kaeza, i thought our lord and saviour was ubuntu on windows 10
13:53 Jordach K A P P A
13:53 kaeza krappa
13:54 rafalcpp isn't systemd now treatable, with chemotherapy and radiations?
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14:00 rom1504 no, only nuclear weapons are efficient on it
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14:53 fireglow[m] test
14:53 fireglow fireglow[m] o/
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15:34 red-002 so why does everyone hate systemd?
15:35 Fixer it is very fat and complex
15:36 Fixer and not unix-way (tm)
15:36 ^7heo so fat and complex that it's TRANSFAT.
15:36 ^7heo and I do not want to have to deal with that crap
15:38 Jordach ^7heo, a certain core dev of MT has contributed to it
15:38 ^7heo well, people do what they want with their free time.
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15:38 ^7heo As a kid, I liked putting explosives in ant mills.
15:39 Jordach when did ants make logging factories
15:39 ^7heo I believe that didn't happen yet.
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15:42 KrimZon_2 ants don't know OOP
15:42 ^7heo You don't need OOP to make explosives.
15:43 ^7heo Yes, OOP results in explosions, but you can achieve explosions with simpler means.
15:43 KrimZon_2 you need OOP for a logging factory
15:44 * KrimZon_2 ducks
15:44 ^7heo nah, you need horrible OOP for a factory.
15:44 ^7heo AKA java.
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15:50 Fritz01 Hello
15:52 kaeza hi
15:53 Fritz01 To start minetest I type in a terminal "minetest", Is possible to make a desktop shortcut?
15:54 kaeza of course, but that depends on your Desktop Environment
15:54 Fritz01 Unity, Ubuntu
15:57 PureTryOut[m] how did you install it? the package manager should install a menu entry for you
15:57 PureTryOut[m] if you compiled it yourself (which I assume you didn't), it should've installed a menu entry for you as well
16:00 Fritz01 Well, I compiled it from git
16:00 Fritz01 complied the sources from github*
16:02 PureTryOut[m] did you do `sudo make install` at the end?
16:03 Fritz01 yes
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16:03 kaeza Fritz01, this may help: http://askubuntu.com/questions/64222/ho‚Äčw-can-i-create-launchers-on-my-desktop
16:04 Fritz01 Yes, In fact i was going to say that I've used that method
16:05 Fritz01 Last thing: How do you make the minetest window starts at maximum dimentions?
16:07 Fixer where did you get explosives?
16:07 kaeza you can specify `screenW = <width>` and `screenH = <height>` in `minetest.conf`
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16:09 kaeza there's also `fullscreen = <bool>`, and some Window Managers have keys to make a window full-screen (no decorations)
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16:09 Fritz01 Alright, thanks
16:10 kaeza e.g. Xfce4 has Alt+F11
16:13 kaeza http://askubuntu.com/a/127373 <-- I seriously hate serif fonts for UI :/
16:16 PureTryOut[m] that looks horrific
16:16 PureTryOut[m] why would anyone use that?
16:20 Fritz01 I've made a shortcut for minetest, but when I use it I can't move or resize the minetest window. Why?
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17:06 Fritz01 cya
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19:56 MinetestBot [git] kaeza -> minetest/minetest: Add functions to strip color information. (#5472) 81c3dc3 https://git.io/vSOmK (2017-03-28T19:55:39Z)
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21:18 thePalindrome Evening all, do I need to do something special to save a detached inventory?
21:21 Ronsor ok
21:21 Ronsor so something weird is happening on my server
21:21 Ronsor when I'm away
21:21 Ronsor someone joins
21:21 Ronsor but instead of griefing they actually make things better
21:23 riff-IRC maybe...
21:23 riff-IRC they want to help?
21:24 calculon indeed, that sounds really weird :p
21:24 Ronsor that same person had hacked my account
21:24 Ronsor and they made everything beter
21:24 thePalindrome lol
21:24 Ronsor it's weird
21:24 Ronsor because i normally get griefers
21:24 Ronsor that steal stuff
21:25 riff-IRC do you have the areas and xban mods installed?
21:25 Ronsor no
21:25 Ronsor griefing is technically allowed on my server
21:25 Ronsor you know i can find who did it with logs
21:25 riff-IRC those 2 mods will help a lot
21:25 riff-IRC yes
21:25 Ronsor my tmux back logs aren't long enough
21:26 riff-IRC hm
21:26 Ronsor I need to fix that
21:26 Ronsor since whoever's doing it seems to be making a habit of it
21:26 Ronsor it's not bad but i do want to know who's doing it
21:26 riff-IRC xban will save you a TON of effort
21:27 thePalindrome But why ban them if they're helping?
21:27 riff-IRC and areas will help with griefing
21:27 Ronsor I'm not going to ban them
21:27 riff-IRC I mean the griefer
21:27 Ronsor oh I technically allow griefing
21:27 Ronsor my server is meant to be realistic
21:27 riff-IRC oh
21:27 Ronsor meaning no 'magic protection'
21:27 riff-IRC oh ok
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21:33 thePalindrome I'm just confused why the detached inventory I create is wiped when the world closes
21:34 sfan5 detached inventories are at run time only
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21:34 thePalindrome crap
21:35 thePalindrome I'm trying to store an inventory for an item, but there's no longer a way to do ti
21:36 thePalindrome This mod is a slew of weird hacks :P
21:40 Ronsor stop using hacks
21:40 Ronsor they make bad code
21:40 Ronsor trust me I've done it
21:40 thePalindrome Then it can't be done
21:40 thePalindrome :P
21:41 riff-IRC XD
21:42 Ronsor submit a pull request ;)
21:42 thePalindrome I did get a feature in that helped
21:43 thePalindrome somebody mentioned having to check every frame if right click was held, and then I introduced on_secondary_use :D
21:44 thePalindrome There's just a ton of odd quirks in minetest that aren't documented :P
21:44 Ronsor open source projects usually aren't good at documenting everything
21:44 Ronsor mostly because nobody likes to write documentation
21:44 thePalindrome eeyup
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21:45 thePalindrome Of course quite a bit depends on other mods, like interaction with mobs
21:45 thePalindrome Which means I have to guess which mobs mod is/will be the de facto standard :P
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21:49 Ronsor mobf/mobs_redo
21:49 thePalindrome That's de facto?
21:49 thePalindrome I was seeing quite a bit of just mobs
21:50 thePalindrome I don't want to roll my own because if you install another mobs mod there's all sorts of clashing
21:50 thePalindrome Plus if everyone rolls their own there's no standard
21:50 Ronsor yeah
21:50 Ronsor that is de facto
21:51 Ronsor most people write extensions for that mod
21:51 Ronsor it also appears to be the most common on servers
21:53 thePalindrome Huh, wouldn't have known :P
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22:01 silent_elk Morning all :)
22:01 thePalindrome morning
22:02 Ronsor it's evening here
22:02 silent_elk xD
22:02 Ronsor 6:01PM
22:02 thePalindrome 16:02
22:02 silent_elk 08:02
22:03 Milan[m] 12:03pm
22:03 Milan[m] gn8
22:04 Milan[m] wait...am i mean am
22:04 silent_elk lol
22:05 Milan[m] :S
22:05 Milan[m] gn8 anyway xD
22:05 silent_elk cya
22:06 * thePalindrome tried to parse that as a time zone
22:06 silent_elk UTC+10 here
22:06 thePalindrome -7
22:06 silent_elk (AEST)
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22:30 silent_elk FINALLY
22:30 silent_elk I got the schems working :D
22:31 silent_elk Just took 1 1/2 days lol
22:38 silent_elk I'm confused
22:40 silent_elk Now I'm not as confused
22:40 silent_elk But something is modifying a variable that isn't supposed to be modified
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22:58 mcg Hi All Welcome Minetest IRC Join The Server Of Minetest Captains Corner Address [minetesthosting.com] Port [30552] Copy Please
23:01 silent_elk wtf
23:02 sofar ?
23:02 silent_elk Sorry, just looking at mcg's message lol
23:02 sofar server advertising isn't prohibited I think
23:02 silent_elk It was just written so weirdly
23:03 sofar yes I understand it's because someone doesn't know punctuation this is really hard to read right
23:03 silent_elk The weirdest thing is that I am chatting to her on Hangouts
23:04 silent_elk and she does use punctuation
23:05 sofar every word was capitolized
23:05 silent_elk yeah
23:05 silent_elk Weird
23:05 silent_elk It's like an automated message
23:05 sofar This Is Very Difficult And Annoying To Read
23:06 silent_elk Indeed I Completely Agree With You There Sofar
23:07 silent_elk But since it isn't illegal, join me at localhost:3000 please!
23:07 silent_elk <g>
23:07 silent_elk xD
23:08 sofar amazing, I play at that server too!
23:08 silent_elk Spawn is pretty chaotic though
23:08 sofar sorry, I set off a bunch of TNT
23:08 silent_elk lol
23:09 silent_elk Luckily I fixed the schematic spawning in eggwars so it should be fine now :)
23:09 nore My Eyes Hurt
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23:10 silent_elk That may have been a bit too much tnt then sofar
23:10 sofar 5^3 - maximum tnt explosion size
23:10 silent_elk Yes but it was too bright for n ore I think
23:10 sofar he's been coding all day
23:11 * silent_elk winces
23:11 epoch anyone know why JT2 is down?
23:12 silent_elk nope
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