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[git] Thomas--S -> minetest/minetest_game: Doors: Fix wood/glass doors not opening or closing 6a55e15 https://git.io/vy5p9 (2017-03-19T00:43:12Z) |
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riff-IRC |
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riff-IRC |
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kaeza |
greetings |
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Arthur_D |
Just FYI, we had someone come over to our channel and spam us about joining #minetest, the way it was done is really not appreciated and this person/bot has been banned |
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VanessaE |
that's not something we advocate here. |
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VanessaE |
out of curiosity, what channel was it? |
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Arthur_D |
#supertuxkart |
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Arthur_D |
We like other projects too, but coming in and pinging people by name to join a channel, immediately disconnect, rinse and repeat several times... I'm not blaming you guys, but thought you might like to know if you have an overzealous fan doing it |
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Arthur_D |
Oh and they changed nick between reconnects, so it seemed like they knew they shouldn't do that |
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VanessaE |
whow as doing it? |
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Arthur_D |
By IP it was 190.38.95.237 |
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Arthur_D |
Nicks used were MetroGoldwinMaye, Mcg9 and Dargod |
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VanessaE |
None of those show up in my log |
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VanessaE |
(neither does the IP) |
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Arthur_D |
http://irc.wxm.be/logs/%23supertuxkart.2017.03.log just search for MetroGoldwinMaye |
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Arthur_D |
Ok |
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VanessaE |
probably just some random troll. :-/ |
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Arthur_D |
Probably |
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Arthur_D |
Just thought you might like to know since it kinda drags you down |
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Arthur_D |
Not much you can do of course |
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VanessaE |
we certainly appreciate the head's up |
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Arthur_D |
I just hope they don't do it many places |
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Arthur_D |
Would be a shame for you to be associated with that |
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Arthur_D: would you like to have our spammer? Some fun new Quran quote every day! |
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[git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: Update server min protocol version to v24 (#5411) f8ad01a https://git.io/vydtw (2017-03-19T07:44:29Z) |
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Milan[m] |
i like modding with vim. https://social.tchncs.de/users/milan/updates/3935 xD |
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ack. |
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[git] red-001 -> minetest/minetest: Block access to the `io` library 2e3778e https://git.io/vydZM (2017-03-19T11:34:33Z) |
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[git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: Refactor Game class (part 2) (#5422) 3c4ac70 https://git.io/vydc4 (2017-03-19T12:18:52Z) |
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red-001 |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=17052 |
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Fixer |
red-001: wait... you can run client-side mods even if server dissalows it? |
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red-001 |
yes |
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red-001 |
why? |
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Jordach |
but can the server run stuff client side |
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Jordach |
:thinking: |
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red-001 |
not yet |
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red-001 |
we devs are a bit paranoid |
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Jordach |
the server needs to be able to do something client side |
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Jordach |
read: os.exec disabled entirely |
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Fixer |
format c: |
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red-001 |
that has been done long ago |
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Jordach |
well, 1 or 2 things, like displaying the item above the hotbar in situations |
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Fixer |
red-001: does it adds timestamps? |
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Jordach |
doing it on the server per server step is laggy |
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red-001 |
we got rid off all known attack vectors |
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red-001 |
we are left with the unknown ones now |
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nerzhul |
server cannot toggle CSM nor execute random code |
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red-001 |
no my mod is pretty basic right now |
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nerzhul |
red-001, interesting usecase heh :) |
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red-001 |
it just creates a peusdo-table using mod storage |
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nerzhul |
red-001, you can retrieve a message ? |
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red-001 |
yes |
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red-001 |
use display |
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nerzhul |
interesting |
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nerzhul |
last message of "user1" ? |
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nerzhul |
:) |
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red-001 |
I don't feel like writing a parser |
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Fixer |
red-001: does it save logged messages to file? |
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red-001 |
yes |
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Fixer |
red-001: what file? |
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red-001 |
it uses modstorage |
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Fixer |
ah ok |
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red-001 |
it's a json file |
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red-001 |
not raw text |
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Fixer |
ah |
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red-001 |
iirc client/modstorage |
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Fixer |
red-001: will be useful to have ability to export to raw text in file |
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red-001 |
I can't do that |
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nerzhul |
Fixer, we don't permit raw files client side to prevent bad usage |
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Fixer |
oh... |
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nerzhul |
the only way to have persistent storage is to use modstorage api |
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red-001 |
I could create an external program |
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Fixer |
no need |
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nerzhul |
this perits mt to prevent modders to do bad things with files on the user disk :) |
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nerzhul |
we do a strong sandbox client side |
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Fixer |
red-001: there is limit of text stored? |
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red-001 |
don't think so |
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red-001 |
no one added that yet |
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Fixer |
red-001: in your mod I mean |
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Megaf |
I really hate Linux man |
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nerzhul |
at this moment there is no mod storage limit but it will be added client side, for example 50Mo per mod maximum |
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red-001 |
It would be a bit hard to add that |
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Megaf |
I hate how lots of software just max out the volume here, destroying my hearing |
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Megaf |
when Im using headphones |
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Fixer |
nerzhul: configurable I hope? it should depend on mod I guess |
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red-001 |
nerzhul, is it possible to remove a modstorage index? |
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nerzhul |
red-001, i don't remember we have this |
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nerzhul |
you can empty your value |
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red-001 |
does that remove it from the storage file or does it just set it to an empty string? |
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nerzhul |
no it just empty it, it's already registered |
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Fixer |
red-001: add some readme to it |
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red-001 |
well I could just copy the in-mod help text |
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Fixer |
red-001: please do |
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Megaf |
guys, can you please open /etc/pulse/daemon.conf and tell me what's your default for flat-volumes |
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red-001 |
flat-volumes = no |
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red-001 |
; flat-volumes = yes |
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Fixer |
red-001: ok, it records the messages, and it is kinda readable from modstorage by eyes, which is good |
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red-001 |
you can display the messages in-game btw |
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nerzhul |
testing now my current optimisations |
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red-001 |
just do /chatlog display <really_large_number> to see all the messages |
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Fixer |
red-001: only says finished reading log but displays nothing |
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red-001 |
werid |
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nerzhul |
callgrind doesn't permit to render many images lawl, dratime > 2sec |
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red-001 |
and there is stuff in the chatlog? |
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Fixer |
red-001: yep |
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red-001 |
wait let me test it again with an empty log |
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red-001 |
it works for me |
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Fixer |
red-001: ok, works for me too, number was too large and gave wrong impression |
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Fixer |
since if you type 100 it will repeat everything the same way |
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red-001 |
I can't cause that |
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red-001 |
/chatlog display 100000000000000000000000000000 |
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red-001 |
it still works correctly |
| 14:09 |
Fixer |
it works fine, nevermind |
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red-001 |
btw clear doesn't remove the data |
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sfan5 |
Megaf: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PulseAudio#daemon.conf see the thing about flat-volumes |
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red-001 |
it just resets the index and lets the data get overwriten |
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Wapanese |
Hello. I found some Nyan Cats. Why are they rare and useless? |
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XeonSquared |
is there a MT mod that does elevators in the form of jump to go up, sneak to go down? |
| 14:34 |
Fixer |
kek |
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Fixer |
XeonSquared: using newest mtg? |
| 14:34 |
XeonSquared |
yeah, 0.4.15, newest stable |
| 14:34 |
Fixer |
XeonSquared: don't know any yet, there were some brainstorming about this |
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Fixer |
XeonSquared: ah, you was asking something different |
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Fixer |
no idea then |
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red-001 |
nyancats might have to be removed |
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Fixer |
XeonSquared: ropes? |
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red-001 |
trademark reasons |
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red-001 |
turns out someone trademarked a meme |
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XeonSquared |
Fixer: no like |
| 14:35 |
XeonSquared |
in a MC mod |
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XeonSquared |
there are elevator blocks |
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Fixer |
XeonSquared: can you post a link to MC mod? |
| 14:36 |
XeonSquared |
you stand on them and jump to teleport to the one above and sneak to teleport to the one below |
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Fixer |
ahh |
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red-001 |
also does hexchat not save the ignore list when you restart it? |
| 14:36 |
XeonSquared |
they need LOS and work only vertically |
| 14:36 |
Fixer |
XeonSquared: there are mods for that in MT |
| 14:37 |
Fixer |
XeonSquared: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=4877 |
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red-001 |
I though Wapanese and Co. where on my ignore list |
| 14:37 |
Fixer |
XeonSquared: you can try searching on forum or here: http://krock-works.16mb.com/MTstuff/modSearch.php?st=0&at=0&q=teleport |
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XeonSquared |
Oh right mod search exists |
| 14:38 |
XeonSquared |
I should bookmark it and never check my bookmarks |
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Wapanese |
^_^ |
| 14:39 |
XeonSquared |
Sorry for the idiot questions on occasion |
| 14:39 |
XeonSquared |
Though I s'pose they're still better than some others |
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Fixer |
XeonSquared: at first I though you asked about sneak elevators alternatives since it was fixed few days ago %) |
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Fixer |
thought* |
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kaeza |
greetings |
| 16:57 |
Krock |
o/ kaeza |
| 16:59 |
red-001 |
hi kaeza |
| 16:59 |
kaeza |
hi Krock, red-001 |
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Milan[m] |
lol i confused my client a bit during servershutdown... |
| 17:16 |
* Milan[m] |
uploaded an image: 2017-03-19-181029_1920x1200_scrot.png (45KB) - https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/tchncs.de/JQiBeieqkosPtvRvOoTDkJIb |
| 17:16 |
Milan[m] |
(worked again after some seconds) |
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Megaf |
so this matrix thing is like a decentralizated internet? |
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Megaf |
Milan[m]: ^ |
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Calinou |
it is federated, so yes |
| 17:20 |
Milan[m] |
y |
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MinetestBot |
[git] sfan5 -> minetest/minetest: Fix /shutdown or ^C no longer causing server exit 525d2a0 https://git.io/vydah (2017-03-19T17:21:18Z) |
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Megaf[m] |
Hm |
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Megaf[m] |
This is VERY weird |
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Megaf[m] |
Riot is one of the craziest things I have ever seen |
| 17:25 |
Milan[m] |
welcome to matrix, Megaf |
| 17:25 |
Milan[m] |
🎉 |
| 17:26 |
Milan[m] |
well riot is not attepting to be just another im app - it is oriented in slack. |
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Megaf[m] |
Calinou: You should use Riot too, So I can see when you are typing, lol |
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Megaf[m] |
Milan: I'm not in the Matrix yet, just created a Riot account |
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Megaf[m] |
not sure if this is my Matrix account to or not |
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Milan[m] |
you joined the matrix.org flagship server, yes+ |
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Megaf[m] |
How do I host a website in the Matrix? |
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Megaf[m] |
can I? |
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Milan[m] |
a website? in theory yes |
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Calinou |
Megaf[m]: sorry, I like my IRC bouncer |
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Calinou |
and Quassel feels snappier than Riot |
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Calinou |
(which needs a lot of work in the performance area) |
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Megaf[m] |
I gave up of Quassel |
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Megaf[m] |
I'm too heavy for it |
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* twoelk |
likes his portable KVIrc |
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Megaf[m] |
heh, I used to use kvirc way back |
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Megaf[m] |
back in 2002 |
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numzero |
does anyone use Konversation? |
| 17:37 |
Megaf[m] |
It was amazing, profile images, audio and video chat, file transfers, IM, it had it all |
| 17:37 |
Megaf[m] |
before it was cool |
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Calinou |
numzero: I used to, a long time ago |
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Megaf[m] |
all based on the good old IRC |
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numzero |
do you know how to make it connect to Freenode via Tor? |
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Calinou |
nope |
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Megaf[m] |
just enable the socksv5 in tor and make it use it |
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numzero |
uh, that works for other servers |
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numzero |
but freenode requires SASL |
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Megaf[m] |
yep |
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numzero |
which Konversation must support, but it seems it doesn’t work |
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Megaf[m] |
hm |
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sfan5 |
numzero: https://freenode.net/news/tor-online |
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Megaf[m] |
PureTryOut: who are you? |
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Megaf[m] |
ok, I have a matrix server, now what? |
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Megaf[m] |
:S |
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numzero |
I had read that |
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numzero |
well, it seems I need to try different IRC client |
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Megaf[m] |
I have my matrix server running but I have no idea what to do with it |
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Milan[m] |
riot is snappy for me on each device including phone... |
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M6 |
Hello Hy not using discord |
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M6 |
IRC is old now |
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M6 |
We nées to go fast ans start usong thé futur |
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Megaf[m] |
dat ortografy |
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PureTryOut[m] |
Megaf: who am I? what kind of question is that? |
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Megaf[m] |
PureTryOut: I mean, names on Matrix and nicks on IRC often differ |
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M6 |
Sorry i m on Android ans thé keyboard change thé word by himself |
| 17:52 |
Megaf[m] |
so you should use gboard, that's the Google's keyboard for Android, and choose the proper language for it |
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Megaf[m] |
it will detect the language you want to type automatically |
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M6 |
Il i have it now |
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Megaf[m] |
sorry Milan , I don't like this Matrix thing |
| 18:00 |
Megaf[m] |
totally unnecessary |
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Megaf[m] |
I don't see the point on it |
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Megaf[m] |
what's it's objective? |
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twoelk |
skynet backdoor? |
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johnnyjoy |
Anyone know how to get node information in lua using only the node name, such as default:dirt? |
| 18:02 |
twoelk |
what info? |
| 18:03 |
johnnyjoy |
The node information that was used to create the node, like it's description, image, etc. |
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behalebabo |
the minetest.registered_nodes table, example: minetest.registered_nodes["default:dirt"].description |
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Milan[m] |
Megaf: what ever |
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johnnyjoy |
As a person who was just too lazy to look at the source, I thank you behalebabo. :) |
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red-001_ |
M6, I tried to create a minetest discord server |
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red-001_ |
no one used it |
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Megaf[m] |
discord is closed source |
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red-001_ |
I don't really mind |
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red-001_ |
but I understand that some people here care about stuff like that |
| 18:13 |
Megaf[m] |
better use Mumble |
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fireglow |
lovely Mumble |
| 18:20 |
fireglow |
but you can't really compare Discord to Mumble |
| 18:20 |
fireglow |
Discord has got everything |
| 18:21 |
Megaf[m] |
agaran: by the way, I'm running a mumble server on mt.megaf.info |
| 18:21 |
Megaf[m] |
and I'm joining the server right now |
| 18:21 |
Megaf[m] |
!up mt.megaf.info |
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MinetestBot |
mt.megaf.info:30000 is up (8ms) |
| 18:22 |
Megaf[m] |
!server Megaf |
| 18:22 |
MinetestBot |
Megaf[m]: Megaf Server v4.0 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 0/10, 0/1 | Version: 0.4.14-Megaf / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 6ms |
| 18:22 |
Megaf[m] |
dat one |
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fireglow |
!server games.firc.de |
| 18:22 |
MinetestBot |
fireglow: No results |
| 18:22 |
Megaf[m] |
the one on port 3000 is a secret |
| 18:22 |
fireglow |
!server firc |
| 18:22 |
MinetestBot |
fireglow: No results |
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sfan5 |
!server Enclave |
| 18:22 |
MinetestBot |
sfan5: Free mining, Master Builders Enclave [EU/DE] | games.firc.de | Clients: 6/25, 6/13 | Version: 0.4.15-dev / minetest | Ping: 12ms |
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fireglow |
sfan5 knows my server name, but I don't |
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fireglow |
sfan5 the top lad |
| 18:25 |
PureTryOut[m] |
Megaf: well in my case it's the same, although my IRC nick has `[m]` behind it (showing that I'm a Matrix user) |
| 18:25 |
Megaf[m] |
oh, ok |
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PureTryOut[m] |
you asked what the point of Matrix is? |
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PureTryOut[m] |
http://matrix.org/docs/guides/faq.html#what-is-the-difference-between-matrix-and-irc |
| 18:26 |
Megaf[m] |
we are talking about it on the Matrix channel |
| 18:27 |
PureTryOut[m] |
why did you leave #linux:matrix.org? |
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fireglow |
PureTryOut[m]: what client are you using? |
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red-001_ |
matrix? |
| 18:30 |
PureTryOut[m] |
Riot, although I sometimes use Weechat and Quaternion as well (if you're asking about a Matrix client) |
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fireglow |
yes I am |
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fireglow |
hmm, weechat plugin, nice |
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red-001_ |
!tell bigfoot547 maybe you could put your mod on the forum? |
| 18:31 |
MinetestBot |
red-001_: I'll pass that on when bigfoot547 is around |
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fireglow |
Megaf[m]: yes |
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fireglow |
ownage |
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Jordach |
Matrix: Discord for Linux neckbeards |
| 18:35 |
fireglow[m] |
hehe |
| 18:35 |
fireglow[m] |
true |
| 18:36 |
Jordach |
and yet Discord is wiping the floor with both TS, Vent, TS3, Mumble, and Matrix |
| 18:36 |
Jordach |
(this also includes skype since the addition of 1:1 peer calling) |
| 18:36 |
red-001_ |
still a better choice then using bsd |
| 18:36 |
fireglow[m] |
omg how dare you |
| 18:37 |
Jordach |
at least BSD doesn't have systemd |
| 18:37 |
red-001_ |
https://xkcd.com/349/ |
| 18:39 |
PureTryOut[m] |
> Discord wiping the floor with Mumble and Matrix |
| 18:39 |
PureTryOut[m] |
lol |
| 18:39 |
Jordach |
because it has a working phone and tablet app that is official |
| 18:39 |
Jordach |
the problem with open source is fragmentation |
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Jordach |
or do we have to talk about android |
| 18:40 |
PureTryOut[m] |
you do know Riot is also available for phones right? |
| 18:40 |
fireglow[m] |
yeah, truly out of the box discord is easy as heck to set up |
| 18:40 |
Jordach |
fireglow[m], and for extra cosmetic features it's $5 a month |
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red-001_ |
lol at least half of the minix 3 wikipedia page is a list of all the reliability measures |
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fireglow |
is there a tunable on either the server or client that entity display distance is increased? |
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sfan5 |
fireglow: active_object_send_range_blocks |
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fireglow |
sfan5: cheers! |
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fireglow |
twice you are my saviour tonight |
| 18:58 |
swift110 |
hey all |
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PureTryOut[m] |
hey swift110 |
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fireglow |
hi swift110 |
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Megaf[m] |
Hi swift110 |
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Megaf[m] |
gnome redshift is pretty neat, works well |
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Megaf[m] |
(It changes the colour temperature of your display according to the time of day/sun position) |
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Milan[m] |
it is hard to follow the context in this channel... |
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PureTryOut[m] |
not really. there is enough time between the subjects :p |
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red-001_ |
so modstorage:from_table save a table? |
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red-001_ |
and modstorage:to_table loads one? |
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red-001_ |
nvm |
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red-001_ |
I was wrong |
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fireglow[m] |
What happens in IRC when I upload a file to the matrix channel? |
| 19:49 |
fireglow[m] |
only one way to find out! |
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* fireglow[m] |
uploaded an image: 99ea1b8d69873979.jpg (1259KB) - https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/YmkkHGTiwYPTRKigSFOhBHqF |
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fireglow |
ooh ok, cool |
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Krock |
lovely |
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fireglow[m] |
;) |
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Fixer |
i still don't get this matrix thing |
| 20:03 |
fireglow[m] |
ask me about matrix |
| 20:03 |
red-001_ |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=17060 |
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behalebabo |
what effect does server_side_occlusion_culling have on CPU usage? is it lighter to enable or disable it? |
| 20:05 |
Milan[m] |
Fixer, https://matrix.org/docs/guides/faq.html |
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red-001_ |
you might want to ask IhrFussel |
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red-001_ |
iirc he devloped it and uses it on his server |
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behalebabo |
ok, thanks, I read the PR and it seems that enabling is very slightly more costly |
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klmmlk |
hi everyone |
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red-001_ |
hi |
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klmmlk |
I'm having a compilation problem. I try for the first time to compile minetst, I'm on ubuntu 15.10, x64, all dependancies installed, http://dev.minetest.net/Compiling_Minetest read twice, etc... |
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klmmlk |
and I have this nice lovely error message: |
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klmmlk |
usr/bin/ld: /usr/local/lib/libcurl.a(libcurl_la-ssluse.o): référence au symbole non défini «SSL_get_verify_result@@OPENSSL_1.0.0» |
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klmmlk |
lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libssl.so.1.0.0: error adding symbols: DSO missing from command line |
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klmmlk |
collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status |
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klmmlk |
I have tryed the OpenSSL and the Gnutls flavors of libcurl4 |
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Megaf[m] |
klmmlk: http://termbin.com/d5vo |
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Megaf[m] |
libcurl4-gnutls-dev |
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Megaf[m] |
and this is the package you need |
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Jordach |
>-- LuaJIT not found, using bundled Lua. |
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Jordach |
Megaf[m] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZ1DEFfQ8oc |
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klmmlk |
libcurl4-gnutls-dev is installed |
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klmmlk |
Megaf, why depth=1 ? |
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Megaf |
makes the download much smaller and shorter and quicker |
| 20:31 |
klmmlk |
ok |
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Megaf |
it only downloads the latest "snapshot" of the git |
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Megaf |
Jordach: I don't get it, normies? |
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Jordach |
Megaf, normies refer to people who don't visit the chan imageboards |
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Megaf |
I'm a normie then |
| 20:38 |
Aceton |
Hello |
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Jordach |
in short: wheres the LuaJIT |
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swift110 |
lol |
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J03 |
Is An0n3m0us here? |
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Megaf |
can't see him |
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J03 |
here before? |
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fireglow |
!seen An0n3m0us |
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MinetestBot |
fireglow: an0n3m0us was last seen at 2017-03-18 21:26:36 UTC on #minetest |
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Megaf |
coulnd't see him |
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fireglow |
yesterday |
| 20:43 |
klmmlk |
Megaf[m], http://pastebin.com/A5z07s7a |
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J03 |
@fireglow thx |
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J03 |
I'll see later |
| 20:44 |
J03 |
we are creating a movie in Blender together |
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J03 |
I expected him to be here |
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fireglow |
who will write the first minetest<->matrix bridge? |
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fireglow |
(not me) |
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klmmlk |
what is matrix ? |
| 20:45 |
Megaf |
klmmlk: what version of Ubuntu you have? |
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klmmlk |
(not the film i supose) |
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klmmlk |
Megaf, 15.10 |
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klmmlk |
wily |
| 20:45 |
Megaf |
klmmlk: is a chat thing, Megaf[m] is on the matrix |
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fireglow |
klmmlk: ttps://matrix.org/docs/guides/faq.html |
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fireglow |
klmmlk: https://matrix.org/docs/guides/faq.html |
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klmmlk |
thx fireglow |
| 20:46 |
Megaf |
klmmlk: Baffy[m] fireglow[m] Megaf[m] Milan[m] passant[m] PureTryOut[m] and yusf[m] we are all in the Matrix |
| 20:47 |
Milan[m] |
we're all here \o/ |
| 20:47 |
Emperor_Genshin |
http://imgur.com/UHpXJkK made a model, need feedback |
| 20:47 |
klmmlk |
which pill is the good one ? the blue or the red ? |
| 20:47 |
Megaf |
red I think |
| 20:47 |
klmmlk |
What happens if I take the tow ones ? is the blue one a placebo ? |
| 20:48 |
Milan[m] |
i have to confess, passant[m] is my old matrix.org account - running an own server at tchncs.de now. :) |
| 20:48 |
Megaf[m] |
http://matrix.org/docs/projects/client/redpill.html |
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klmmlk |
Megaf, any idea ? |
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klmmlk |
perhaps my curl lib path ? |
| 20:51 |
Megaf |
I have no idea, you use Ubuntu, there's so many things that could be wrong. |
| 20:51 |
klmmlk |
I use an operating system... there's so many things that could be wrong... |
| 20:52 |
klmmlk |
;D |
| 20:52 |
klmmlk |
Anyway, thank you for your help. |
| 20:53 |
fireglow |
the NSA loves all operating systems equally |
| 20:53 |
Megaf |
klmmlk: remove the ssl libs you installed |
| 20:53 |
Megaf |
with the --purge option |
| 20:53 |
Megaf |
and install the curl one again |
| 20:53 |
Megaf |
your ssl lib is broken |
| 20:53 |
klmmlk |
good idea... |
| 20:56 |
Megaf |
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcurl-gnutls.la and /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgnutls.so.30 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcurl-gnutls.a /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcurl-gnutls.so |
| 20:56 |
Megaf |
examples of the lib it could find |
| 20:56 |
Megaf |
not the thing it found |
| 20:57 |
PureTryOut[m] |
Milan: it'd be nice to clean that account up. log in on it, leave all the rooms, etc |
| 20:57 |
* PureTryOut[m] |
uploaded an image: Screenshot_2017-03-19_21-58-10.png (5KB) - https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/bhczvqckfqEEpkmHRAVszDLq |
| 20:57 |
PureTryOut[m] |
or that ^ |
| 20:57 |
Milan[m] |
but it was an important backup account already |
| 20:58 |
PureTryOut[m] |
lol |
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Milan[m] |
i even have a vivaldi.net email adress in case there is a problem with my server/hoster. |
| 20:58 |
PureTryOut[m] |
ugh vivaldi... |
| 20:59 |
Milan[m] |
u're right... i should use googlemail instead |
| 20:59 |
PureTryOut[m] |
ugh google... |
| 20:59 |
PureTryOut[m] |
:p |
| 21:00 |
fireglow |
Milan[m]: why not posteo :D |
| 21:00 |
Milan[m] |
i wonder what problem u have with vivaldi |
| 21:00 |
Milan[m] |
ugh posteo |
| 21:00 |
PureTryOut[m] |
proprietary obviously |
| 21:00 |
Milan[m] |
oh right so let's use the gnome browser everybody |
| 21:01 |
PureTryOut[m] |
huh? just get Firefox or Chromium :p |
| 21:01 |
PureTryOut[m] |
does GNOME even have a browser? |
| 21:01 |
PureTryOut[m] |
*it's own browser? |
| 21:01 |
Milan[m] |
so firefox is 100% opensource that's new to me |
| 21:01 |
fireglow |
I only use w3m |
| 21:01 |
PureTryOut[m] |
not sure it is, probably. still tons better than Vivaldi |
| 21:01 |
fireglow |
use Brave |
| 21:01 |
Milan[m] |
lol brave... |
| 21:02 |
fireglow |
less laughing, more using |
| 21:02 |
klmmlk |
I've tried Brave... |
| 21:02 |
klmmlk |
lol |
| 21:02 |
klmmlk |
I've tried... |
| 21:02 |
Milan[m] |
can someone login here? somewhat seems to be wrong but it could be my internet as well... https://m.tchncs.de/ |
| 21:02 |
fireglow |
lol techncs.de |
| 21:03 |
fireglow |
virus confirmed |
| 21:03 |
Milan[m] |
only people smart enough will be able to remember the correct domain - it's always funny |
| 21:03 |
Milan[m] |
>:] |
| 21:04 |
Milan[m] |
i guess i need to tell my webserver about websocket |
| 21:04 |
Milan[m] |
or not... hmmm |
| 21:04 |
Megaf[m] |
klmmlk: any luck? |
| 21:04 |
Megaf[m] |
with minetest |
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fireglow |
lolol |
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klmmlk |
Megaf, Am tryin'... |
| 21:12 |
Megaf[m] |
Jordach_: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PYCV2Uj6SA |
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klmmlk |
pirgin, reinstallin, reinstalling dependancies killed by ssl stuff removal... |
| 21:12 |
Megaf[m] |
This thing sounds good even listening from the camera's microphone |
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klmmlk |
Hum... Megaf, basically, it seems to be an sort of ancient relic just like an old 4G streaming sounds device ;D |
| 21:30 |
dzho |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcFFM2k9TYU lutherans vs charismatics |
| 21:30 |
dzho |
http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0000048/quotes C-3p0 against my programming to impersonate a deity |
| 21:31 |
dzho |
https://missing-license.csh.rit.edu/ AWOL |
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dzho |
https://outagemap.rge.com/ |
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dzho |
http://hoopycat.com/rgeoutages/ |
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dzho |
http://www.rge.com/outages/outageinformation.html |
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fireglow |
is dzho a bot? |
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benrob0329 |
id say a bot or a spammer |
| 21:37 |
dzho |
oooh |
| 21:37 |
dzho |
sorry |
| 21:37 |
dzho |
wrong channel! |
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dzho |
(well, wrong window *and* wrong channel) |
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Megaf[m] |
dzho: that video is actually not bad |
| 21:58 |
Megaf[m] |
im wathcing it, the guy is good |
| 21:58 |
* Megaf[m] |
is Lutheran |
| 22:02 |
klmmlk |
Megaf[m], I have some news about compiling... it's... worst ? --> http://pastebin.com/fwYAqvUq |
| 22:04 |
Megaf[m] |
Calinou_: ^ |
| 22:04 |
Megaf[m] |
S'il vous plaît |
| 22:04 |
klmmlk |
Donc tu parles français ? |
| 22:05 |
Megaf[m] |
je ne parle pas français |
| 22:05 |
klmmlk |
ceci n'est pas une pipe. |
| 22:05 |
Megaf[m] |
Pourquoi? |
| 22:06 |
klmmlk |
Pourquoi quoi ? Pourquoi ce n'est pas une pipe ou bien pourquoi tu parles français ? |
| 22:06 |
klmmlk |
ce n'est pas une pipe --> je ne parles pas français. |
| 22:07 |
klmmlk |
Tu parles français, parce que c'est mieux pour moi si je peux m'expriemr en français. |
| 22:07 |
twoelk |
that is indeed a nice matisse |
| 22:07 |
Megaf[m] |
No man, I don't speak French |
| 22:07 |
Megaf[m] |
I understand a bit of it |
| 22:07 |
twoelk |
argh magritte? |
| 22:08 |
Megaf[m] |
twoelk: I don't even know what you are talking about |
| 22:08 |
dzho |
Megaf[m]: I came across by happenstance, it was a hit when I was looking up the bit from C-3P0 in the following (imdb) link |
| 22:09 |
dzho |
though the thing I had in mind to start was actually a ghostbuster's quote: "when someone asks you if you are a god, you say 'yes'" |
| 22:09 |
twoelk |
the pipe referance to the picture of wich it is not because it is just canvas and not the pictured object |
| 22:11 |
Megaf[m] |
well, all I know is that I'm installing a frankstein here, BSD kernel with Linux userland. |
| 22:11 |
fireglow |
how dare you |
| 22:11 |
fireglow |
BSD all the way |
| 22:11 |
Megaf[m] |
But I've done worse in the past, Solaris kernel with GNU userland. |
| 22:11 |
Megaf[m] |
more precisely, Ubuntu userland on top of Solaris Kernel |
| 22:12 |
Megaf[m] |
now I'm doing Debian userland on top of FreeBSD Kernel |
| 22:12 |
Megaf[m] |
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4f/NexentaOS_desktop.png |
| 22:12 |
Megaf[m] |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nexenta_OS |
| 22:12 |
fireglow |
sodomy |
| 22:13 |
Megaf[m] |
It was a cool OS man |
| 22:13 |
Megaf[m] |
several years ago |
| 22:13 |
Megaf[m] |
this is what I'm installing right now https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian_GNU/kFreeBSD |
| 22:13 |
klmmlk |
Megaf[m], are u using this kind of OS in real-life use cases ? if yes, which ones ? |
| 22:14 |
Megaf[m] |
klmmlk: for real work I use normal Debian |
| 22:15 |
twoelk |
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b9/MagrittePipe.jpg |
| 22:15 |
klmmlk |
lol twoelk |
| 22:16 |
twoelk |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Treachery_of_Images |
| 22:18 |
ronsor |
BSD is best |
| 22:18 |
fireglow |
ronsor knows what's up |
| 22:19 |
klmmlk |
MenuetOS is best |
| 22:19 |
Megaf[m] |
ok, cinnamon doesnt start on kFreeBSD, for some reason |
| 22:19 |
Megaf[m] |
MenuetOS is cool |
| 22:19 |
fireglow |
I bet the error message was "lol get real" |
| 22:20 |
Megaf[m] |
installing LXDE |
| 22:23 |
ronsor |
I'm gonna write my own OS |
| 22:23 |
ronsor |
and then write a minetest version for it |
| 22:23 |
ronsor |
i'm actually serious about that |
| 22:23 |
ronsor |
i need to finish my OS |
| 22:23 |
Hawk777 |
Nah. OSs are boring. Port Minetest to VHDL and run it on raw hardware :D |
| 22:24 |
ronsor |
i dont have an fpga |
| 22:24 |
ronsor |
nor do i know vhdl |
| 22:24 |
ronsor |
so OS it is |
| 22:24 |
ronsor |
Estimated time remaining: 6 months |
| 22:24 |
Hawk777 |
That might be a problem. |
| 22:24 |
ronsor |
and probably atleast 2 years until i get my minetest clone up to speed |
| 22:24 |
ronsor |
because my OS only runs Lua(R) scripts |
| 22:25 |
klmmlk |
ronsor, what is the git repos for your os ? |
| 22:25 |
ronsor |
it's not open source |
| 22:25 |
ronsor |
not the old version |
| 22:25 |
ronsor |
the new version will be |
| 22:25 |
red-001 |
port mt to ASIC |
| 22:25 |
ronsor |
https://os.openstar.pw/shot1.png |
| 22:25 |
ronsor |
https://os.openstar.pw/openstar-iso.zip |
| 22:26 |
ronsor |
also ignore the end user license agreement |
| 22:26 |
red-001 |
you made a lua os? |
| 22:26 |
ronsor |
yes |
| 22:26 |
ronsor |
it's mostly written in Lua |
| 22:26 |
ronsor |
the task scheduler is too |
| 22:26 |
ronsor |
all the apps |
| 22:26 |
klmmlk |
ronsor: connexion error. |
| 22:26 |
red-001 |
so does it run on real hardware? |
| 22:26 |
ronsor |
it should |
| 22:27 |
Megaf[m] |
Minetest on bare metal, that would be cool |
| 22:27 |
ronsor |
http://os.openstar.pw/openstar-iso.zip |
| 22:27 |
ronsor |
http://os.openstar.pw/shot1.png |
| 22:27 |
ronsor |
fixed |
| 22:27 |
Megaf[m] |
quite doable for the server |
| 22:27 |
ronsor |
no https |
| 22:27 |
ronsor |
also my internet is terrible |
| 22:27 |
ronsor |
prepare to wait for any download |
| 22:27 |
ronsor |
since i run it at home |
| 22:27 |
red-001 |
what sort of kernal does it have? |
| 22:28 |
red-001 |
are you using an existing kernal or is it a new one? |
| 22:28 |
klmmlk |
I have looked to your source code, and I have something to say to you: You msut change that blue color a bit for another blue tone. |
| 22:28 |
ronsor |
no i wrote it from scratch |
| 22:28 |
ronsor |
in C |
| 22:28 |
klmmlk |
lol |
| 22:28 |
ronsor |
also don't worry about the blue |
| 22:28 |
ronsor |
theming is supported |
| 22:28 |
ronsor |
i just never wrote a panel for it |
| 22:29 |
ronsor |
i stopped development on that version |
| 22:29 |
ronsor |
because it's 32-bit |
| 22:29 |
ronsor |
i'm moving to 64-bit |
| 22:29 |
ronsor |
you have to edit arcane config files in /etc |
| 22:29 |
red-001 |
you site doesn't seem to be very stable |
| 22:29 |
ronsor |
it isn't |
| 22:29 |
ronsor |
it's hosted at home |
| 22:29 |
ronsor |
and the uptime is terrible (my internet not the box itself) |
| 22:29 |
ronsor |
and the speed too (thanks comcast) |
| 22:29 |
ronsor |
just keep trying(R) |
| 22:30 |
red-001 |
get some sort of free online host |
| 22:30 |
ronsor |
i hate free hosting |
| 22:30 |
ronsor |
i should get a cdn |
| 22:30 |
Megaf[m] |
It's alive!! |
| 22:30 |
klmmlk |
why not opensourced the first version, but the second ? |
| 22:30 |
ronsor |
but currently the original site isn't even up |
| 22:30 |
* Megaf[m] |
@ kFreeBSD |
| 22:30 |
red-001 |
also I don't have comcast but f**k comcast |
| 22:31 |
Megaf[m] |
Debian userland on FreeBSD |
| 22:31 |
Megaf[m] |
it works :D |
| 22:31 |
Megaf[m] |
with LXDE |
| 22:31 |
ronsor |
klmmlk because the code is terrible |
| 22:31 |
ronsor |
i wrote code that looks terrible |
| 22:31 |
klmmlk |
lol |
| 22:31 |
ronsor |
i don't want people to know that |
| 22:31 |
ronsor |
also it's kind of hard to build |
| 22:31 |
ronsor |
the build system uses tons of weird absolute paths and stuff |
| 22:32 |
ronsor |
it even has it's own archive format |
| 22:32 |
ronsor |
the FAR archive |
| 22:32 |
ronsor |
FARchive |
| 22:32 |
Megaf[m] |
how do I screenshot on LXDE? |
| 22:32 |
red-001 |
so how does it compare to other archive formats? |
| 22:32 |
ronsor |
well it's really simple |
| 22:32 |
klmmlk |
"print screen" key on your keyboard ? |
| 22:32 |
ronsor |
iirc the format is <file> <size> <data> |
| 22:33 |
ronsor |
i wrote unpacker and packers for bash and lua |
| 22:33 |
red-001 |
I meant the compression algormith it uses |
| 22:33 |
ronsor |
oh |
| 22:33 |
ronsor |
it doesn't use one hehehe |
| 22:33 |
PureTryOut[m] |
Megaf: you do realize LXDE is purely the interface? it can not take screenshots on itself. I'm assuming you're running Lubuntu. Just install any screenshot tool. I just use Xfce's screenshot program (`xfce4-screenshooter`), works quite nicely |
| 22:33 |
ronsor |
it was planned but i abandoned that version |
| 22:34 |
ronsor |
thus it's unfinished |
| 22:34 |
fireglow |
ronsor: ERR_TUNNEL_CONNECTION_FAILED |
| 22:34 |
ronsor |
fireglow: just try again(R) |
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Megaf[m] |
PureTryOut: most DEs include screenshoter |
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| 22:34 |
red-001 |
have you heard of templeOS? |
| 22:34 |
ronsor |
yes |
| 22:34 |
fireglow |
red-001 xD |
| 22:34 |
ronsor |
it's written by a crazy person |
| 22:34 |
Megaf[m] |
anyway, I just used my old friend scrot |
| 22:34 |
Megaf[m] |
Im subscribed to TempleOS channel |
| 22:34 |
PureTryOut[m] |
that's a good screenshooter ;) |
| 22:35 |
Megaf[m] |
there. http://i.imgur.com/gYsvbqd.png |
| 22:35 |
Megaf[m] |
:D |
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| 22:38 |
PureTryOut[m] |
that's not a lot of RAM |
| 22:38 |
PureTryOut[m] |
your PC only has 1GB? |
| 22:38 |
PureTryOut[m] |
ooh wait |
| 22:38 |
klmmlk |
TempleOSÂ seems pretty good for making an NSA-free server farm. The killer feature for that: No networking at all ! |
| 22:38 |
PureTryOut[m] |
not even that, 1024 would be 1GB |
| 22:39 |
* PureTryOut[m] |
uploaded an image: Screenshot_2017-03-19_23-39-41.png (10KB) - https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/mLStudGAvHKmzAGrQlvtwLhd |
| 22:39 |
PureTryOut[m] |
how do you use less than that? ^ |
| 22:39 |
PureTryOut[m] |
hmm FreeBSD, maybe that matters |
| 22:40 |
nerzhul |
FreeBSD powa :) |
| 22:40 |
Megaf[m] |
That's just a VM for that |
| 22:40 |
nerzhul |
but only for server |
| 22:40 |
Megaf[m] |
but my laptop has only 4 GB total anyway |
| 22:40 |
klmmlk |
Megaf[m], I can't understand what I see. uname saying kfreebsd, but /proc/version saying Linux... what is my lack of knowledge ? |
| 22:40 |
Megaf[m] |
going to upgrade to 16 GB when I got the money |
| 22:40 |
PureTryOut[m] |
4GB > 1GB :p |
| 22:40 |
klmmlk |
PureTryOut[m], Are you sure ? |
| 22:41 |
Megaf[m] |
klmmlk: is Debian running on FreeBSD |
| 22:41 |
Megaf[m] |
Linux is just a kernel |
| 22:41 |
klmmlk |
4 is more than 1 ? realy ? |
| 22:41 |
PureTryOut[m] |
I guess `/proc/version` reports the Linux compatibility layer version |
| 22:41 |
Megaf[m] |
Debian is a collection of software, |
| 22:41 |
PureTryOut[m] |
(FreeBSD can run most Linux programs by using a compatibility layer) |
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| 22:42 |
Megaf[m] |
however I'm not sure this thing can run Linux apps |
| 22:43 |
klmmlk |
Yes Megaf[m], I know that Linux is only kernel, but kfreebsd is kernel. You can't have two kernels running.. so what the hell... |
| 22:43 |
Megaf[m] |
heh |
| 22:44 |
klmmlk |
If your kernel is kfreebsd, what is the "Linux" on /proc/version ? |
| 22:46 |
Megaf[m] |
maybe glibc was compiled on linux |
| 22:47 |
klmmlk |
You installed debian first, and changed the kernel after, or installed FreeBSDÂ and the debian packages after ? |
| 22:48 |
klmmlk |
or directly the debian freebsd distro ? |
| 22:48 |
klmmlk |
https://www.debian.org/ports/kfreebsd-gnu/ |
| 22:49 |
Megaf[m] |
the distro, that one |
| 22:50 |
Megaf[m] |
downloading the hurd version now |
| 22:50 |
klmmlk |
ok |
| 23:06 |
Megaf[m] |
kFreeBSD http://i.imgur.com/qq7XJwc.png vs Debian http://i.imgur.com/qaNB9zI.png |
| 23:06 |
Megaf[m] |
FreeBSD more efficient in memory use |
| 23:06 |
Megaf[m] |
smaller kernel perhaps |
| 23:07 |
Megaf[m] |
86 MB vs 173 MB |
| 23:07 |
klmmlk |
without process significantly in use... test with some postgresql and apache/python or django running, with firefox. |
| 23:07 |
* Megaf[m] |
remembers running Arch Linux + xterm + XChat + FluxBox using 14 MB of RAM. |
| 23:07 |
Megaf[m] |
back in the day |
| 23:08 |
klmmlk |
usage for themself as kernels is not the usage for hosted processes. Perhaps a kernel use more resource to handle another process than himself. |
| 23:10 |
klmmlk |
to compare, need to have to compare the outputs of top. |
| 23:15 |
rubenwardy |
I personally think you should use my kernel, Andrux |
| 23:15 |
rubenwardy |
it's like Andrex, but you can flush it down the toilet before you even use it |
| 23:17 |
klmmlk |
I personally think you should use no kernel at all, and go outside searching for the verity, the happyness, the love, the acomplishment of yourself, and the sun on your skin. |
| 23:17 |
klmmlk |
eventually. |
| 23:17 |
klmmlk |
but what to do if the accomplishment of myself is to begin a kernel programmer ? |
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| 23:27 |
Megaf[m] |
klmmlk: your life is sad |
| 23:28 |
Megaf[m] |
thankfully im no programmer |
| 23:28 |
Megaf[m] |
im sysadmin... also lifeless |
| 23:31 |
Megaf[m] |
first image I have ever uploaded to my account in imgur |
| 23:31 |
Megaf[m] |
http://i.imgur.com/sl1P09k.jpg |
| 23:31 |
Megaf[m] |
and until today, the only one |
| 23:34 |
klmmlk |
I havent an imgur account... |
| 23:35 |
Megaf[m] |
I didnt know I had until I tried to create on today xP |
| 23:35 |
klmmlk |
lol |
| 23:40 |
Megaf[m] |
an interesting OS would be Hurd running GNUStep, with some kind of kernel integrated graphical server |
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